Tamora on the OpenMoko?

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Axel Beckert

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Dec 28, 2008, 11:28:43 AM12/28/08
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Hi,

I think about buying an OpenMoko and wonder if anyone has already
tried to use an OpenMoko with Tamora as client. If I remember
correctly, it's initially designed for Nokia tablets (N770, N800 and
N810, etc.)

Regards, Axel
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Adenilson Cavalcanti

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Dec 29, 2008, 3:50:59 PM12/29/08
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Axel

Whaz up? Happy Christmas with delay!


>
> I think about buying an OpenMoko and wonder if anyone has already
> tried to use an OpenMoko with Tamora as client. If I remember

Cool! It seems to be a nice device. I have never tried tamora on it...
but it should work as long the dependencies are available (python +
bluez + EFL).


> correctly, it's initially designed for Nokia tablets (N770, N800 and
> N810, etc.)
>

And since it screen layout was designed with N810 resolution
(800x480), it would require some work to make it fit on the openmoko
device (or even better, to make it resolution independent).

Best regards


Adenilson

Axel Beckert

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Dec 31, 2008, 2:36:41 PM12/31/08
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Hi,

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 06:50:59PM -0200, Adenilson Cavalcanti wrote:
> Whaz up? Happy Christmas with delay!

Happy new year to everone! 3.5h hours to go here in Switzerland. :-)

> > I think about buying an OpenMoko and wonder if anyone has already
> > tried to use an OpenMoko with Tamora as client. If I remember
>
> Cool! It seems to be a nice device.

Yeah, the (current) second generation ("Neo FreeRunner") is by far
more usable than the first generation ("Neo 1973"). Although the plans
for the third generation are even better. Anyway, I think about
getting a 2nd generation device and run it with Debian (as always with
me ;-).

> I have never tried tamora on it... but it should work as long the
> dependencies are available (python + bluez + EFL).

I don't expect that much problems here if there are already 6
distributions (including Debian and Gentoo IIRC) out there for the
FreeRunner.

> > correctly, it's initially designed for Nokia tablets (N770, N800 and
> > N810, etc.)
>
> And since it screen layout was designed with N810 resolution
> (800x480),

800x480? Hey, that's as much resolution as my 701 EeePC has. Maybe I
could use it as remote control for my ThinkPad? (Just kidding :-)

> it would require some work to make it fit on the openmoko
> device (or even better, to make it resolution independent).

Yeah, the FreeRunner has "only" VGA, i.e. 480x640.

See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner for the hardware
details.

Axel Beckert

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Jan 21, 2009, 1:29:44 PM1/21/09
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Hi,

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 06:50:59PM -0200, Adenilson Cavalcanti wrote:

> > I think about buying an OpenMoko

Bought a used OpenMoko FreeRunner on Thursday last week.

> > and wonder if anyone has already tried to use an OpenMoko with
> > Tamora as client.
>

> Cool! It seems to be a nice device. I have never tried tamora on it...
> but it should work as long the dependencies are available (python +
> bluez + EFL).

They are. At least with Debian plus the FreeSmartPhone.org packages
from http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/.

> > If I remember correctly, it's initially designed for Nokia tablets


> > (N770, N800 and N810, etc.)
>
> And since it screen layout was designed with N810 resolution
> (800x480), it would require some work to make it fit on the openmoko
> device (or even better, to make it resolution independent).

Unexpectedly it hasn't any problems with the OpenMoko's resolution of
480x640:

http://gallery.noone.org/Eigene%20Hardware/OpenMoko/2009-01-21-000.640.jpg

There were only changes necessary in the packaging to make it install
on a Debian running OpenMoko FreeRunner:

http://code.google.com/p/amora/source/detail?r=629

Savago

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Jan 22, 2009, 11:31:21 AM1/22/09
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Axel

> Unexpectedly it hasn't any problems with the OpenMoko's resolution of
> 480x640:
>

Not *that* unexpectedly, since the UI uses screen percentages for some
of its elements. Its not totally resolution independent because some
of the elements are hardcoded (and the icons doesn't scale properly).

>
> There were only changes necessary in the packaging to make it install
> on a Debian running OpenMoko FreeRunner:
>
>  http://code.google.com/p/amora/source/detail?r=629
>

Cool, very nice indeed.

The underlying work for Tamora was done already (D-BUS scanning for
devices, BlueZ use for bluetooth sockets communication, Amora protocol
implementation, etc).

What is missing is to add features and refine the UI. I think I
already created a set of tickets on amora website concerning those.

Its being quite a while since I touched this code, but feel free to
ask me any question that you could have.


Best regards


Adenilson
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