Reaches and state listings

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pyo...@runbox.com

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Jun 3, 2025, 11:41:36 AMJun 3
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There are two reaches of the New River near the VA/WV state line that do not appear correctly on those state lists.

1. Pearisburg to Glen Lyn appears on both WV and VA pages. It should only appear on the VA page since it is entirely in VA. https://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/River/view/river-detail/4623/main

2. Glen Lyn to Bull Falls Camping Area crosses the state line and should be on both WV and VA pages, but it is currently only on the WV page. https://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/River/view/river-detail/4627/main

I'd be happy to do this myself if I knew how.

Philip

Anthon Allred

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Jun 4, 2025, 7:14:19 AMJun 4
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Some time ago, the State listing was settable by the river editors. 
Apparently because this resulted in a number of inconsistencies, this
changed to an automatic State listing which included the reach in two
states if a reach crossed or paralleled a State line.  But now, this
automatic process seems to be broken and once an error occurs, there
seems to be no way to fix it.  In addition to these New River errors
that I have known about for a while, but apparently couldn't fix, the
Sideling Hill Creek reach (Maryland/Pennsylvania) shows the Creek as
running into West Virginia even though the reach was ended before it
reached the Potomac deliberately in order to avoid this confusing result.

There are other errors of this sort that I have run across that I am not
remembering now, but they seem to be accumulating.

Tony Allred Jr.

Anthon Allred

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Jun 4, 2025, 8:22:47 AMJun 4
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In addition:  N. Br. Potomac:  6. Black Oak (Gary Yoder River Access)
Nr. Rawlings, MD to Upper Potomac Industrial Park reach properly shows
in Maryland, but in the West Virginia list there is a gap in the West
Virginia listing where it is not shown (this is inconsistent with how
adjacent reaches are shown).  The reach 2. Stony River:  2. Route 50 (in
West Virginia) to North Branch of Potomac River originally ended before
the N. BR. Potomac river deliberately to avoid showing in Maryland, But
since it showed in Maryland anyway, I extended to reach to Kitzmiller,
MD (since there's no access at the confluence) and you have to run most
of the Kitzmiller section of the N. Br. Potomac anyway, this may not be
such a bad result, but it is odd to see it in the Maryland listings.

There are others....

Tony Allred Jr.

Anthon Allred

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Jun 4, 2025, 3:39:11 PMJun 4
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More:  Section 3. of the Russell Fork (Lower Russell Fork - Breaks Park
River Access to below Elkhorn City is entirely in Kentucky, but it
appears in the Virginia Rivers list.  Grassy Creek - Gateway Motel to
Breaks Park River Access on the Russell Fork (2.1 miles) continues into
Kentucky, but it appears only in the Virginia River list.

Tony Allred Jr.

Anthon Allred

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Jun 6, 2025, 7:15:54 PMJun 6
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Still more:  Delaware Hancock, NY to Port Jervis, NY reach - listed in
New York, but not in Pennsylvania; Delaware Mongaup Wave - Listed in New
York, but not in Pennsylvania.

Tony Allred Jr.
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