Please Approve Final Version of Position Paper on Proctored Testing

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Fred Feldon

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Feb 6, 2012, 5:31:07 PM2/6/12
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Dear ITLC Colleagues -- As you know, the position paper on proctored
testing has been discussed for over a year now. I believe it's time to
approve a final version. Our last item of concern was the ending
paragraph. Below I have "cleaned it up." Everything is the same except
for the ending paragraph. May I present this for approval by the Board
at the 2012 AMATYC Spring Board Meeting? Thanks, everyone! -- Fred
Feldon

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AMATYC Statement on Proctored Testing
Final Draft Submitted Online to the ITLC for Approval February 6, 2012

1. What is meant by proctored testing?

Proctored testing means that students are supervised by an approved
proctor, provide verification of identity, and remain in continuous
line of sight of the proctor while taking an exam. Frequently the
proctor is a testing official at an accredited college or university.
Electronic proctoring is an acceptable alternative to traditional
proctoring. Electronic proctoring means that students are supervised
by webcam in conjunction with other items such as a lockdown browser
and the ability of the proctor to take over each student’s computer.

2. Why require proctored testing?

To ensure the integrity of grades assigned to students taking
mathematics classes taught at a distance, all students should be
required to take at least two exams in a proctored setting or complete
other assessments such as a class project that demonstrates mastery of
the course material and verifies student identity. Such controlled
assessments give credibility to and respect for the grade students
earn in their distance learning courses as well as to the distance
learning program itself. Some institutions may not accept mathematics
classes taught at a distance as transfer credit without documented
proctored exams. It is a real warning when colleges stop accepting
courses from other colleges without proctored tests. It is preferable
that two-year colleges create the regulations for themselves.

3. What are some guidelines for setting up a secure proctored
environment?

The institution should be required to have proctoring available for
students at campus site(s). Students should be informed of proper
procedure for arranging a proctoring situation that is approved by the
instructor and the institution.

Students taking classes at a distance who are unable to come to campus
sites for testing each have the responsibility to find an acceptable
proctor and /or acceptable testing site, and cover any associated
costs.

Proctor information must be communicated to faculty in an established
time-frame for approval purposes.

The faculty member will convey testing information to the proctor,
such as, what may and may not be used during the exam by the student,
the exam password in the case of an online exam, and how to return the
exam to the instructor.

4. What is the recommended number of proctored tests and how should
they be weighted?

When proctored tests are used as an assessment of student learning for
classes taught at a distance, there should be at least two proctored
tests including the final exam and proctored tests should be at least
50% of the course grade.

Thomas, Jamie

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Feb 6, 2012, 5:41:04 PM2/6/12
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I still take exception with listing the percentage that the test(s) would count.  I prefer wording that says

 

"When proctored tests are used as an assessment of student learning for classes taught at a distance, there should be at least two proctored tests including the final exam and proctored tests should comprise a meaningful portion of the course grade.”

 

Jamie

 

 

Jamie Thomas

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Feldon, Fred

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Feb 6, 2012, 6:42:27 PM2/6/12
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Hi, Jamie  --  I hear you. I'm usually in favor of openness and flexibility as opposed to specifics but, in this case, as I recall the Committee felt "meaningful portion" should be defined. Otherwise someone might think, well, 15% is meaningful... Personally, most of us teaching online that I know of are in the 60-70% range! We felt 50% was a minimum we could all settle for in a position paper. How about saying,
 

"When proctored tests are used as an assessment of student learning for classes taught at a distance, there should be at least two proctored tests including the final exam and proctored tests should comprise a meaningful portion (50% or more) of the course grade.”

 
 
Fred Feldon
Professor of Mathematics
Coastline Community College
 


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Thomas, Jamie

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Feb 6, 2012, 6:49:37 PM2/6/12
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Personally I’d prefer leaving it more open and not stating a number at all.  I understand that others feel differently about this.

Jamie

wmackey

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I like this if you would consider deleting "a meaningful portion of" from the last sentence.  But no one else will like that.

wayne

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Harris Valerie

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Feb 6, 2012, 7:04:11 PM2/6/12
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I like this, Fred

 

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George Hurlburt

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Feb 6, 2012, 8:56:52 PM2/6/12
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I approve as is.

George

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Fred,
I also liked the statement.
Joyce Friske
Associate Mathematics Professor
Tulsa Community College
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Cotten, Jodi

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Feb 7, 2012, 6:38:58 AM2/7/12
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Approve as it.

Jodi


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Westchester Community College
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Dear ITLC Colleagues -- As you know, the position paper on proctored

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Shemsi Alhaddad

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Feb 7, 2012, 8:25:11 AM2/7/12
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It sounds good to me!


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Sattler Ph.D, Nancy J

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Feb 7, 2012, 8:54:29 AM2/7/12
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I am wondering if the paragraph below would help.

Nancy

 

 

When proctored tests are used as an assessment of student learning for classes taught at a distance, the final exam should be proctored.  It is suggested that there be at least two proctored tests including the final exam and proctored tests should comprise a meaningful portion (50% or more) of the course grade

jason samuels

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Feb 7, 2012, 11:27:31 AM2/7/12
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Looks good.
One grammar fix: at the end of #1, "items" should be "measures such as lockdown..." That sounds better.

Jason

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Nancy Rivers

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Feb 7, 2012, 12:04:42 PM2/7/12
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I approve this wording and am okay changing "items" to "measures" as suggested by Jason Samuels.
 
N Rivers
 
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Wake Technical Community College
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Raleigh, NC 27616
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Buddy Saucedo

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Feb 7, 2012, 12:31:47 PM2/7/12
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I am Good with it ... as it is also.
 
Buddy =)
 
 


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Denise Robichaud

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Feb 7, 2012, 12:45:06 PM2/7/12
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I like it as is too.

We tried to get something similar passed in my institution's math dept, but we didn't have a provision for classes that might use projects instead of final exams, so it didn't pass. I like that this position is flexible in that regard, while maintaining a minimum 50% standard on proctored test weighting.

Denise

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George

> and the ability of the proctor to take over each students computer.

Feldon, Fred

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Feb 7, 2012, 2:18:31 PM2/7/12
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Hi, Nancy  --  I do like your propsed wording, especially the "it's suggested" part. I also took out the word "exam" because, as Mary Beth told me, in the past there had been some concern about the words test and exam being used interchangeably. How about this (see below). At this point there has been overwhelming majority in support for the paper. Tomorrow I will e-mail it to the Board in it's final form. Many thanks, everyone!  --  Fred
 

"When proctored tests are used as an assessment of student learning for classes taught at a distance, the final should be proctored. It is suggested there be at least two proctored tests including the final and proctored tests should comprise a meaningful portion (50% or more) of the course grade.”

 
 
Fred Feldon
Professor of Mathematics
Coastline Community College
 


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Rouhani, Behnaz

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Feb 7, 2012, 2:21:50 PM2/7/12
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I approve it with this change.

 

Behnaz

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Behnaz Rouhani, PhD

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Sattler Ph.D, Nancy J

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Feb 7, 2012, 2:42:35 PM2/7/12
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I am thinking of the entire delegate assembly approving the position statement.  We need to have meat in the position statement but we also need to recognize that different schools do things differently.

 

Nancy

 

 

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Thomas, Jamie

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I like the ‘it is suggested’ part.

Jamie

Moss, Cindy

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Feb 7, 2012, 4:35:33 PM2/7/12
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I think it appears, at first,  that only the final may need to be proctored. Could the final and exams be combined together with the work proctor?

 

Cindy

 

Cindy Moss

Skyline College

http://www.smccd.net/accounts/moss/

 

Feldon, Fred

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Feb 7, 2012, 6:14:19 PM2/7/12
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Thanks, Jason  --  I agree. Good eyes!  --  Fred
 
Fred Feldon
Professor of Mathematics
Coastline Community College
 


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Cheryl

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Feb 8, 2012, 6:22:38 AM2/8/12
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Fred,
Thank you for the final version, I thought this is where we landed. You have my vote to present this version to the Board for approval.

Cheryl

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Louise Olshan

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Feb 8, 2012, 10:29:08 AM2/8/12
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Fred,

I like the suggested changes (Tweaks). You have my vote to send this to the board.

Louise
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County College of Morris

Randolph, NJ

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Nancy Rivers

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Feb 8, 2012, 11:15:37 AM2/8/12
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Actually, I have a concern about the way the final paragraph is stated below. Let me copy it here:
 
When proctored tests are used as an assessment of student learning for
> classes taught at a distance, there should be at least two proctored
> tests including the final exam and proctored tests should be at least
> 50% of the course grade.
Beginning the paragraph with "When proctored tests are used..." indicates that what is said in this paragraph has no application to a course in which no tests are proctored. I know the document as a whole makes the case for proctored testing. If the only way to get approval to present this document is to leave this phrase in place, I can live with that. I would prefer this paragraph begin with "Included in the assessment of student learning for classes taught at a distance should be at least two..."
 
Nancy
 
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Raleigh, NC 27616
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>>> Louise Olshan <lol...@ccm.edu> 2/8/12 10:29 AM >>>

Sam Bazzi

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Fred,
There are times when it is not convenient for distance students to find a local college or university to administer their tests. I was thinking  in addition to accredited  colleges or universities to add the  following language "or other approved sites by the instructor". Sometimes I let a student take the test at a public library after making arrangements with an authorized person.
Regards
Sam Bazzi
Henry Ford Community college
 
 
Sam Bazzi
Henry Ford Community College
MATH Division
Dearborn, MI 48128

>>> Louise Olshan <lol...@ccm.edu> 2/8/2012 10:29 AM >>>

R Collins

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Sam and all

I have had quite a few students take classes online from Iraq or Afghanistan.  I make arrangements with their immediate officer to supervise testing,  but do not really know where they are or if that is the right person to supervise. Some things have to be done on faith, others not so much
Ruth Collins

Cindie Wade

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I was concerned about that also.  I very often use a Library or High School Counseling office, I’ve even used a priest before (I think that is pretty reliable)

I like the "or other approved sites by the instructor"

 

Cindie Wade

Math Instructor/Discipline Coordinator

St. Clair Co. Community College

CEM 305

323 Erie St.

Port Huron, Mich 48060

 

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> and the ability of the proctor to take over each students computer.

Thomas, Jamie

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If we’re going to put something like this in, where would it go?  And it seems to be that it might be worded “or other sites approved by the instructor”.

Jamie

Thomas, Jamie

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Ruth probably thinks I’m crazy since I have twice sent her this message that was supposed to be going to everyone!

Jamie

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I’ve had the same experience as Ruth.  Doesn’t the first line of the position paper cover the situation, making it unnecessary to include something like Sam’s statement?

“Proctored testing means that students are supervised by an approved proctor,…”

Jamie

Harris Valerie

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> Proctored testing means that students are supervised by an approved
> proctor, provide verification of identity, and remain in continuous
> line of sight of the proctor while taking an exam. Frequently the
> proctor is a testing official at an accredited college or university.

I feel that I am covered by this statement as long as I am doing the “approving.” 

 

Valerie Harris

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Central Wyoming College

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Sattler Ph.D, Nancy J

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I have had a student's supervisor at work proctor tests too

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Sam and all

I have had quite a few students take classes online from Iraq or Afghanistan.  I make arrangements with their immediate officer to supervise testing,  but do not really know where they are or if that is the right person to supervise. Some things have to be done on faith, others not so much
Ruth Collins

 

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> and the ability of the proctor to take over each student’s computer.

Feldon, Fred

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Hi, Sam  --  Ok. I'll add that. I know at Coastline, for example, we include not only librarians but also K-12 school teachers.  --  Fred
 
 
Fred Feldon
Professor of Mathematics
Coastline Community College
 


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Feldon, Fred

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Hi, Jamie  --  Done. Thank you.  --  Fred
 
Fred Feldon
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wmackey

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Absolutely right Nancy!!

wayne

Quoting Nancy Rivers <njri...@waketech.edu>:

>> and the ability of the proctor to take over each student?s computer.

Orrange, Mary Beth

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Fred,

You did a great job on putting this together .... thank you for finishing it up!

Mary Beth

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>>> Louise Olshan <lol...@ccm.edu<mailto:lol...@ccm.edu>> 2/8/2012 10:29 AM >>>
Fred,

I like the suggested changes (Tweaks). You have my vote to send this to the board.

Louise
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Fred,
Thank you for the final version, I thought this is where we landed. You have my vote to present this version to the Board for approval.

Cheryl

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