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Subject: Skeptical Paradigms

Fyngal Bunt wrote>

IQ TEST- What can you learn from the following?

Stewardesses and reverberated are the two longest words (12 letters
each) that can be typed using only the left hand.

The longest word that can be typed using only the right hand is
lollipop.

Skepticism is the longest word that alternates hands.

Sam Scafferi is a headstrong skeptic that is left-handed but uses his
right-hand for golf and shooting.

He cannot use dowsing rods that well.
Answer:No charge in left. No wonder.

Fyngal

________________________________________________________
Reply by Sean
Grolier

The mind boggles...

Take a squiz at a few things Sam Scafferi said over the years (90's) re
LRLs and dowsing. He became progressively harder the last few years now
not using his name bit a series of aliases to restlessly baste for no
reason, basically.

"I think the biggest problem with dowsing is that it has been
"marketed" by
so many people as an art that anyone with a bent coathanger and a
little
patience can learn. In my opinion, this has caused a huge number of
folks
to believe that they can do it, and when they fail to demonstrate it,
it
ends up being that dowsing itself doesn't work. When in fact, it is the
operator, pure and simple."

"However, in my opinion, I think the practice of dowsing does work for
some.
When I say work, I mean that although they might not be 100% correct,
they
seem to be correct (or accurate) to the point that they are well above
ordinary chance. Unfortunately, I think there are many folks who are
deluded into thinking that sheer practice and concentration will
eventually
result in them becoming a successful dowser. Such is not the case."

"As you might've surmised by now, I have spent a fair amount of time
and
resources researching this subject. I don't claim to be a dowser."

What he said on TN and the other newsgroup and Mongobay appears totally
different. He was almost scary. Maybe he gave the golf away.

BTW was there really a JELAD website and newsletter? I don't think so.
This is what I mean by Sam changing. Is Vincent Blanes or Blaine or Vic
whatever really the masked man? Why is it so important anyway? The
skeptics have spouted a bunch of fibrications so why not just go by the
site that says it's G. Brook04 (which eludes me)? And notice on the
other side NetMonkey Rick A. I assume that is Rick Angerley or Ranger
(R-Anger get it?). I know firms are such that on the net anonymity is
important. Why do you suppose the skeptics all use remailer programs to
hide their identities. They then turn around and say that x company is
hiding..lol. Maybe Vic or Vin is in fact (or is now) an assistant in PR
or salesman or even co-development. That's how inventors'companies
work. To ascribe a name to a product against the wishes of the
proprietors is vandalism.

Sean

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Reply from Fyngal

No JELAD website or newsletter Sean exists far as I know or ever did.
Makes you weep doesn't it?
Vincent Blanes or Vic Blaine is not the inventor/owner whatever of
Ranger-Tell. No doubt about that, I checked with R-T and many
authorized sources.
Laverton WA is Western Australia, where the goldfields are
near Albany which is a town in the South-West. I was told by a
reputable source from there that
G. Brook was the boss of Ranger-Tell,
inventor/manufacturer/legal owner/hirer and firer etc etc. I think
there has been some confusion betweeen Vic Blaine, a site tech who left
his name on the whois forum because only he could set them up on the
net. They have
distributors in many countries. They don't just trade with the US at
all. Tell said in fact it is getting more global now with
Turkey,Greece, Philippines, Central Europe, Malaysia etc buying more
per sale now.
But let's not get too into Ranger-Tell because this is supposed to be a
newsgroup re all LRLs not just the one that recently seems to have
received more wordage from the skeptics than most.

Fyngal

I found the following on a newsgroup. It might be the reason for
Sam's strange habit of always picking on Vic B.

Victor Feb 24, 3:02 pm
Newsgroups: treasuretales.misc
From: stampotech...@hotmail.com (Victor)
Date: 24 Feb 2002 15:02:45 -0700
Local: Mon, Feb 24 2002 3:02 pm
Subject: Examiner Doesn't Work ... When???

Aint it the truth. The Rangertell will always indicate gold where it
is seen and unseen. No doubt about it. No doubt either about the
fact it's the most affordable long range locator on the market that
does what the 2000 to 5000 dollar ones do and a whole lot more.
Not bad for less than 600 dollars.
Only problem was that when I dug up the target...... I had to set up a

microscope most times. Taking a random sample or two at each spot
convinced me there was no gold around anyway (that would be a neat
trick..not ) so I emailed Ranger and he told me what the problem was.
Now all I do is set for weight and I avoid all the pesky micro-gold.
I
can in fact preset the weight I want to detect above in a two-second
setting of a minimum. . Even the Loopy, Sam Sneer would like this baby.
(You guessed it. I bought an Examiner on my return. Best move I ever
made.] Let me say these forum posters are really missing out if they
actually think the Examiner is not the best locator out there
BAR NONE!!
I am so convinced I can recommend you visit www.rangertell.com

Vincent 'Vic' Blaine
/( '.' )\
.( UU)/ woof!woof!
Computech Roaming_ Mid-West US/WA/AK

___________________________________________________________________________
_____________________
It was about that time (2002) that Sam started being his usual
antagonistic self towards Ranger, who he thought was Vincent 'Vic'
Blanes or Vic Blaine bcause he must have seen his name on the whois
site and assumed it was Ranger. Either that or Vic Blaine may have
rubbed him up the wrong way on a golf-course somewhere. I found mention
on an X-archive post some time ago going through my achive CDs re a
Vic Alistair Blaine who didn't like Sam Scafferi's attitude to what
he considered his looking for his own balls. Apparently Sam thought
Vic Blaine's attitude was intimidating. Vic countered , mentioning
that his ball was in fact in the very area he was searching and he
couldn't do anything but nose along near there waiting for Sam to
move on. But he didn't want to ask since there was no need. Vic said
that left-handers weren't that popular and that he would have been in
the right anyway or some such comment that must have irritated Sam. The
post disappeared a few days later though I have it on my CD before it
was auto-deleted , one assumes. It was nasty in a way and this is why I
suspect Sam has been harrassing. He recalls Vic Blaine from this
incident. I could be wrong but it sounds a possibility. Of course Sam
would deny it since he's like that.

Sean

_______________________________________________________________
You might have something there Sean. Sounds valid to me. The guy was
sensitive and it grew to be a chip on his shoulder..get it??
Chip..shoulder...??

Fyngal

_______________________________________________________________
LOL !!! You got it in one! Sorry..
Sean

_______________________________________________________________
Sorry guys. Having trouble posting your emails onto group for some
reason. Lumping after receiving and posting should be over soon. Could
be memory or server, don't know. Pls ignore if replies cannot be done
sequentially.
Ta and MXmas!! -Admin

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Heard he's been back assisting. I noticed a fine tuning there. Thought
it was the snow but...I guess though so is a block of aluminium..subtle
I mean.

Fyngal

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Fyngal Bunt wrote>
IQ TEST- What can you learn from the following?
Stewardesses and reverberated are the two longest words (12 letters
each) that can be typed using only the left hand.
The longest word that can be typed using only the right hand is
lollipop.
Skepticism is the longest word that alternates hands.
Sam Scafferi is a headstrong skeptic that is left-handed but uses his
right-hand for golf and shooting.
He cannot use dowsing rods that well.
Answer:No charge in left. No wonder.
Fyngal

________________________________________________________
Reply by Sean
Grolier
The mind boggles...
Take a squiz at a few things Sam Scafferi said over the years (90's) re
LRLs and dowsing. He became progressively harder the last few years now
not using his name bit a series of aliases to restlessly baste for no
reason, basically.
"I think the biggest problem with dowsing is that it has been
"marketed" by
so many people as an art that anyone with a bent coathanger and a
little
patience can learn. In my opinion, this has caused a huge number of
folks
to believe that they can do it, and when they fail to demonstrate it,
it
ends up being that dowsing itself doesn't work. When in fact, it is the
operator, pure and simple."
"However, in my opinion, I think the practice of dowsing does work for
some.
When I say work, I mean that although they might not be 100% correct,
they
seem to be correct (or accurate) to the point that they are well above
ordinary chance. Unfortunately, I think there are many folks who are
deluded into thinking that sheer practice and concentration will
eventually
result in them becoming a successful dowser. Such is not the case."
"As you might've surmised by now, I have spent a fair amount of time
and
resources researching this subject. I don't claim to be a dowser."
What he said on TN and the other newsgroup and Mongobay appears totally
different. He was almost scary. Maybe he gave the golf away.
BTW was there really a JELAD website and newsletter? I don't think so.
This is what I mean by Sam changing. Is Vincent Blanes or Blaine or Vic
whatever really the masked man? Why is it so important anyway? The
skeptics have spouted a bunch of fibrications so why not just go by the
site that says it's G. Brook04 (which eludes me)? And notice on the
other side NetMonkey Rick A. I assume that is Rick Angerley or Ranger
(R-Anger get it?). I know firms are such that on the net anonymity is
important. Why do you suppose the skeptics all use remailer programs to
hide their identities. They then turn around and say that x company is
hiding..lol. Maybe Vic or Vin is in fact (or is now) an assistant in PR
or salesman or even co-development. That's how inventors'companies
work. To ascribe a name to a product against the wishes of the
proprietors is vandalism.
Sean

______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
Reply from Fyngal
No JELAD website or newsletter Sean exists far as I know or ever did.
Makes you weep doesn't it?
Vincent Blanes or Vic Blaine is not the inventor/owner whatever of
Ranger-Tell. No doubt about that, I checked with R-T and many
authorized sources.
Laverton WA is Western Australia, where the goldfields are
near Albany which is a town in the South-West. I was told by a
reputable source from there that
G. Brook was the boss of Ranger-Tell,
inventor/manufacturer/legal owner/hirer and firer etc etc. I think
there has been some confusion betweeen Vic Blaine, a site tech who left
his name on the whois forum because only he could set them up on the
net. They have
distributors in many countries. They don't just trade with the US at
all. Tell said in fact it is getting more global now with
Turkey,Greece, Philippines, Central Europe, Malaysia etc buying more
per sale now.
But let's not get too into Ranger-Tell because this is supposed to be a
newsgroup re all LRLs not just the one that recently seems to have
received more wordage from the skeptics than most.
Fyngal

______________________________________________________________
Sorry guys. Having trouble posting your emails onto group for some
reason. Lumping after receiving and posting should be over soon. Could
be memory or server, don't know. Pls ignore if replies cannot be done,
only new topics. Ta and MXmas!! -Admin
I found the following on a newsgroup. It might be the reason for
Sam's strange habit of always picking on Vic B.
Victor Feb 24, 3:02 pm
Newsgroups: treasuretales.misc
From: stampotech...@hotmail.com (Victor)
Date: 24 Feb 2002 15:02:45 -0700
Local: Mon, Feb 24 2002 3:02 pm
Subject: Examiner Doesn't Work ... When???
Aint it the truth. The Rangertell will always indicate gold where it
is seen and unseen. No doubt about it. No doubt either about the
fact it's the most affordable long range locator on the market that
does what the 2000 to 5000 dollar ones do and a whole lot more.
Not bad for less than 600 dollars.
Only problem was that when I dug up the target...... I had to set up a
microscope most times. Taking a random sample or two at each spot
convinced me there was no gold around anyway (that would be a neat
trick..not ) so I emailed Ranger and he told me what the problem was.
Now all I do is set for weight and I avoid all the pesky micro-gold.
I
can in fact preset the weight I want to detect above in a two-second
setting of a minimum. . Even the Loopy, Sam Sneer would like this baby.
(You guessed it. I bought an Examiner on my return. Best move I ever
made.] Let me say these forum posters are really missing out if they
actually think the Examiner is not the best locator out there
BAR NONE!!
I am so convinced I can recommend you visit www.rangertell.com
Vincent 'Vic' Blaine
/( '.' )\
.( UU)/ woof!woof!
Computech Roaming_ Mid-West US/WA/AK

_______________________________________________________________
LOL !!! You got it in one! Sorry..
Sean

_______________________________________________________________
Sorry guys. Having trouble posting your emails onto group for some
reason

. Lumping after receiving and posting should be over soon. Could
be

memory or server, don't know. Pls ignore if replies cannot be done
sequentially.
Ta and MXmas!! -Admin

_______________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:47:12 -0800
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Subject: Re: Skeptical Paradigms

Heard he's been back assisting. I noticed a fine tuning there. Thought
it was the snow but...I guess though so is a block of aluminium..subtle
I mean.
Fyngal

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