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Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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Dec 12, 2014, 4:33:38โ€ฏPM12/12/14
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:37:15 +0000 (UTC), Chris Caputo <cca...@alt.net>
wrote:

>The following was just posted to https://www.altopia.com/whatsnew.html:
>
>12-Dec-2014:
>
>For SSL, we now require TLS 1.0 or better. SSLv3 and SSLv2 are
>considered insecure and at Altopia we prefer real security over a false
>sense of security. As an existing customer, if you need a free month or
>two to offset the cost of a newsreader upgrade, please email
>sup...@altopia.com.
>
>Ref: https://community.qualys.com/blogs/securitylabs/2014/10/15/ssl-3-is-dead-killed-by-the-poodle-attack
>
>Chris Caputo
>Chief Geek, Altopia Corporation


Thanks for the information but is there really any need
for the likes of me who only posts nonsense to AUK and
a few other crap groups to worry about secure sockets
layers?

Seems to me if I want to post something really libelous
I would use anonymous remailers with encryption.

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Sir Gregory

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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Dec 12, 2014, 5:16:21โ€ฏPM12/12/14
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 17:02:35 -0500, Stray Cat
<Stra...@alt.anonymous.messages> wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:33:27 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the information but is there really any need
>>for the likes of me who only posts nonsense to AUK and
>>a few other crap groups to worry about secure sockets
>>layers?
>
>Suppose someone was watching your insecure connection anywhare along its way, grabbed your Altopia username and password and then
>proceeded to upload a ton of kiddie porn via Altopia? Still think it doesn't matter? Think it can't happen?

I don't think it would matter because there would be an IP addy
and MAC address associated with their upload of kiddie pron and it
wouldn't be mine.


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Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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Dec 12, 2014, 5:37:26โ€ฏPM12/12/14
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 17:29:51 -0500, Stray Cat
<Stra...@alt.anonymous.messages> wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 17:16:12 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> wrote:
>
>>I don't think it would matter because there would be an IP addy
>>and MAC address associated with their upload of kiddie pron and it
>>wouldn't be mine.
>
>Even though it's not your IP address, likely it will be you who will have to explain that. Altopia has the IP address and the account
>used to make a post, but not who was actually doing it.
>
>MAC addresses don't propagate beyond the first upstream router you hit.

Altopia logs the IP address, I know that much. And, the authorities most
certainly can find out the MAC address from that if they subpoena the
information.

So, bottom line is if somebody were to steal my password and username to
upload a bunch of kiddie pron or any other illegal stuff I would have no
liability or culpability for it.

Thus, it still seems to me that this extra security is only for the
insecure people who don't really know what's going on.

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Sir Gregory

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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Dec 12, 2014, 5:39:28โ€ฏPM12/12/14
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:31:25 -0700, Lamey <la...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Take the free shit.

Why complicate matters when it's just not necessary?

K.I.S.S! Only paranoid people worry about crap like this.

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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Dec 12, 2014, 5:44:31โ€ฏPM12/12/14
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:31:25 -0700, Lamey <la...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:33:27 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
><greghall@yacht_master.fake> wrote:
>
>Take the free shit.

If it requires a newsreader upgrade then it's probably
not free.

I don't know if Forte Agent can implement the new standard
but probably not. So, what am I gonna do. Spend a lot of
money on a new client? Seems totally unnecessary to me.

There is a check box for SSL in my older version of Forte
Agent but I'd sure have to upgrade to the newest version
as the new standard didn't even exist when the older
Forte Agent was coded.

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Sir Gregory

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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Dec 12, 2014, 6:07:50โ€ฏPM12/12/14
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 22:56:21 +0000, Percy Picacity
<k...@under.the.invalid> wrote:
>If you're not worried about security why connect by SSL at all? I
>think plain text still works.


Indeed. It's a big to do about nothing.

But, if it makes the geeks feel better about themselves
then they can use it.

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Sir Gregory

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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Dec 12, 2014, 6:18:18โ€ฏPM12/12/14
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:09:42 -0500, Stray Cat
<Stra...@alt.anonymous.messages> wrote:

>It doesn't need to be about your newsreader or anyone else's being TLS capable or not.
>
>My ancient copy of Forte Agent 2.0 isn't.
>
>I use stunnel with it and it supports all versions of SSL and TSL.
>
>And stunnel is free and trivial to setup.

I bet it slows things down. I can't abide slow connections.


Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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Dec 12, 2014, 6:36:50โ€ฏPM12/12/14
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:27:45 -0500, Stray Cat
<Stra...@alt.anonymous.messages> wrote:
>There wouldn't be any meaningful impact on your network thruput. There will be some extra CPU overhead, but I've never noticed any
>performance impact.
>
>Easy enough for you to find out. If you want a good stunnel.conf file, just ask.

Thanks but it looks like I'd need a new one every month.

https://www.stunnel.org/versions.html

It seems they release a new medium or high urgency
version every month. Give me a freaking BREAK!

And, I thought Windows updates were out of control.

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Lamey wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 17:44:20 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
> Ok then just have a beer.

i hate beer

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Lamey wrote:
> I like a good ale.

molson's canadian lager

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Lamey wrote:
> I read all of that.

what did it say

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show me where it said that

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

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On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 00:10:01 +0000 (UTC), Chris Caputo <cca...@alt.net>
wrote:
>Stray Cat <Stra...@alt.anonymous.messages> writes:
>>There wouldn't be any meaningful impact on your network thruput. There will be some extra CPU overhead, but I've never noticed any
>>performance impact.
>>
>>Easy enough for you to find out. If you want a good stunnel.conf file, just ask.
>
>Hey Stray Cat,
>
>I'd be interested in a good stunnel.conf file that I can share with other
>customers.
>
>Sir Greg,
>
>Feel free to just connect in plain-text if that is your preference. But
>for those connecting with SSL 3.0, I wasn't comfortable with them thinking
>their connection was secure when new developments have rendered it not.

Good man! You are always conscientious.

Thanks, I will do that (plain text). Just don't do away
with it in the name of all these so-called secure protocols
that only cause hackers to work harder breaking them. LOL!

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Sir Gregory

Yours Truly Johnny Dollar

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IOW, same old same old.


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