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Lytec Group Admin
Nov 14, 2007, 11:46:13 PM11/14/07
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If you have not heard by now, there has been a rather dramatic change
of course regarding the AltaPoint Software. Many of you may have
purchased AltaPoint 6, with the expectation of eventually upgrading to
V7 at some point. Obviously things did not work out as planned with
V7, not the least of which was data conversion. It was certainly a
difficult year. Well, the V7 project is effectively being discarded
and V8 will take its place. With V8, AltaPoint will revert back to
the V6 platform and simply upgrade it with new features. Unlike V7 it
will not be Mac compatible. Anyone who purchased V7 or was eligible
to receive V7, will instead receive V8. I have already viewed the
beta and it worked just fine - no conversion issues at all. I will
keep this group informed as to the release date, at this point it
looks like sometime in December.
of course regarding the AltaPoint Software. Many of you may have
purchased AltaPoint 6, with the expectation of eventually upgrading to
V7 at some point. Obviously things did not work out as planned with
V7, not the least of which was data conversion. It was certainly a
difficult year. Well, the V7 project is effectively being discarded
and V8 will take its place. With V8, AltaPoint will revert back to
the V6 platform and simply upgrade it with new features. Unlike V7 it
will not be Mac compatible. Anyone who purchased V7 or was eligible
to receive V7, will instead receive V8. I have already viewed the
beta and it worked just fine - no conversion issues at all. I will
keep this group informed as to the release date, at this point it
looks like sometime in December.
josh berry
Nov 15, 2007, 9:14:23 AM11/15/07
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Does this mean the mac compatible software is discontinued for all the
Altapoint software or just the EMR? I am already using the Altapoint
medical V7 and I need to know if that software will continue to be
upgradable.
Altapoint software or just the EMR? I am already using the Altapoint
medical V7 and I need to know if that software will continue to be
upgradable.
--
Josh Berry, ND
HNMC
Hawleyville, CT 06440
(203) 426-2306
Fax (203) 426-1327
www.hawleyvillenaturopathic.com
Peter Glusker
Nov 15, 2007, 11:51:13 AM11/15/07
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Thanks for the update.
Peter Glusker
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Peter Gensheimer
Nov 15, 2007, 12:22:00 PM11/15/07
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One of the primary objectives of V7 was not only to advance the
capabilities of V6, but also to blaze the trail into the Mac world. I
think the developers were intrigued by some of the possibilities that
Macs offered. AltaPoint V7 was unique in that a single CD could be
installed on a PC or a Mac, and that both PC's and Macs could co-exist
on the same network. As it turns out, although AltaPoint would have
been the only medical software available for the Mac, there just
weren't enough offices interested in Macs to make it worth the
investment of time and resources. It was a noble and innovative
pursuit on the development side, but in the end the accountants won.
AltaPoint V6 was based on the Advantage database, V7 used Posgres, V8
reverts back to Advantage. There will be no future development of
Posgres and hence no future for Mac users of AltaPoint. Again, the
only users affected by this decision are those who purchased V7 for
their Mac. Realistically if Mac users want to continue with
AltaPoint, they will need to buy a PC. For better or worse Windows
wins again.
capabilities of V6, but also to blaze the trail into the Mac world. I
think the developers were intrigued by some of the possibilities that
Macs offered. AltaPoint V7 was unique in that a single CD could be
installed on a PC or a Mac, and that both PC's and Macs could co-exist
on the same network. As it turns out, although AltaPoint would have
been the only medical software available for the Mac, there just
weren't enough offices interested in Macs to make it worth the
investment of time and resources. It was a noble and innovative
pursuit on the development side, but in the end the accountants won.
AltaPoint V6 was based on the Advantage database, V7 used Posgres, V8
reverts back to Advantage. There will be no future development of
Posgres and hence no future for Mac users of AltaPoint. Again, the
only users affected by this decision are those who purchased V7 for
their Mac. Realistically if Mac users want to continue with
AltaPoint, they will need to buy a PC. For better or worse Windows
wins again.
--
Peter Gensheimer
860-658-7300
josh berry
Nov 16, 2007, 8:40:50 AM11/16/07
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So basically you are telling me that my purchase was useless and all
the work I paid for and put into the software with the assumption of
goodwill and future on the part of Altapoint is wasted and I need to
reinvest in software and computers. I am not happy. I need to look
at my options.
the work I paid for and put into the software with the assumption of
goodwill and future on the part of Altapoint is wasted and I need to
reinvest in software and computers. I am not happy. I need to look
at my options.
Peter Gensheimer
Nov 16, 2007, 10:47:08 AM11/16/07
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If you purchased Mac computers then that does put you in an awkward position. I am not a Mac expert, but it is my understanding that there is a method for running Windows programs within the Mac environment. Your V7 data is convertable to V8. In fact I received notice yesterday that the V7 to V8 conversion will be released sometime in Feb'08.
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Peter Gensheimer
860-658-7300
Peter Gensheimer
860-658-7300
josh berry
Nov 19, 2007, 12:40:34 PM11/19/07
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I could have purchased a less expensive, fully functional program for
windows. The reason I chose Altapoint was for its Mac compatibility.
I don't like running in Windows and I am not familiar with the windows
operating system (and as much as people like to say windows is as
friendly as a mac it's not). I have spent thousands of dollars
getting this ready and I was about to start using Altapoint in my
office. I know I can't recover the funds I have lost in data entry,
however, I would like to be refunded the cost of the program. I will
look for another mac compatible program.
windows. The reason I chose Altapoint was for its Mac compatibility.
I don't like running in Windows and I am not familiar with the windows
operating system (and as much as people like to say windows is as
friendly as a mac it's not). I have spent thousands of dollars
getting this ready and I was about to start using Altapoint in my
office. I know I can't recover the funds I have lost in data entry,
however, I would like to be refunded the cost of the program. I will
look for another mac compatible program.
ammllc01
Nov 20, 2007, 6:29:28 PM11/20/07
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I beleive there is more to the decsion to abandon 7.0 than the
"accountants
winning" I personally raised the point directly with Doug Lyman at
the Las Vegas
event in 2005 (I beleive) that in over 13 years (at the time) of
meeting with physicians,
I had only been asked about a "Mac version" of a Practice Management
Software 1 time
so I never did understand the ROI on a "multi-platform" product.
On Nov 15, 10:22 am, "Peter Gensheimer" <medpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One of the primary objectives of V7 was not only to advance the
> capabilities of V6, but also to blaze the trail into the Mac world. I
> think the developers were intrigued by some of the possibilities that
> Macs offered. AltaPoint V7 was unique in that a single CD could be
> installed on a PC or a Mac, and that both PC's and Macs could co-exist
> on the same network. As it turns out, although AltaPoint would have
> been the only medical software available for the Mac, there just
> weren't enough offices interested in Macs to make it worth the
> investment of time and resources. It was a noble and innovative
> pursuit on the development side, but in the end the accountants won.
> AltaPoint V6 was based on the Advantage database, V7 used Posgres, V8
> reverts back to Advantage. There will be no future development of
> Posgres and hence no future for Mac users of AltaPoint. Again, the
> only users affected by this decision are those who purchased V7 for
> their Mac. Realistically if Mac users want to continue with
> AltaPoint, they will need to buy a PC. For better or worse Windows
> wins again.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
"accountants
winning" I personally raised the point directly with Doug Lyman at
the Las Vegas
event in 2005 (I beleive) that in over 13 years (at the time) of
meeting with physicians,
I had only been asked about a "Mac version" of a Practice Management
Software 1 time
so I never did understand the ROI on a "multi-platform" product.
On Nov 15, 10:22 am, "Peter Gensheimer" <medpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One of the primary objectives of V7 was not only to advance the
> capabilities of V6, but also to blaze the trail into the Mac world. I
> think the developers were intrigued by some of the possibilities that
> Macs offered. AltaPoint V7 was unique in that a single CD could be
> installed on a PC or a Mac, and that both PC's and Macs could co-exist
> on the same network. As it turns out, although AltaPoint would have
> been the only medical software available for the Mac, there just
> weren't enough offices interested in Macs to make it worth the
> investment of time and resources. It was a noble and innovative
> pursuit on the development side, but in the end the accountants won.
> AltaPoint V6 was based on the Advantage database, V7 used Posgres, V8
> reverts back to Advantage. There will be no future development of
> Posgres and hence no future for Mac users of AltaPoint. Again, the
> only users affected by this decision are those who purchased V7 for
> their Mac. Realistically if Mac users want to continue with
> AltaPoint, they will need to buy a PC. For better or worse Windows
> wins again.
>
> On Nov 15, 2007 9:14 AM, josh berry <drjos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Does this mean the mac compatible software is discontinued for all the
> > Altapoint software or just the EMR? I am already using the Altapoint
> > medical V7 and I need to know if that software will continue to be
> > upgradable.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Does this mean the mac compatible software is discontinued for all the
> > Altapoint software or just the EMR? I am already using the Altapoint
> > medical V7 and I need to know if that software will continue to be
> > upgradable.
>
> > On Nov 14, 2007 11:46 PM, Lytec Group Admin <medpi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > If you have not heard by now, there has been a rather dramatic change
> > > of course regarding the AltaPoint Software. Many of you may have
> > > purchased AltaPoint 6, with the expectation of eventually upgrading to
> > > V7 at some point. Obviously things did not work out as planned with
> > > V7, not the least of which was data conversion. It was certainly a
> > > difficult year. Well, the V7 project is effectively being discarded
> > > and V8 will take its place. With V8, AltaPoint will revert back to
> > > the V6 platform and simply upgrade it with new features. Unlike V7 it
> > > will not be Mac compatible. Anyone who purchased V7 or was eligible
> > > to receive V7, will instead receive V8. I have already viewed the
> > > beta and it worked just fine - no conversion issues at all. I will
> > > keep this group informed as to the release date, at this point it
> > > looks like sometime in December.
>
> > --
> > Josh Berry, ND
> > HNMC
> > Hawleyville, CT 06440
> > (203) 426-2306
> > Fax (203) 426-1327
> >www.hawleyvillenaturopathic.com
>
> --
> Peter Gensheimer
> 860-658-7300- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > If you have not heard by now, there has been a rather dramatic change
> > > of course regarding the AltaPoint Software. Many of you may have
> > > purchased AltaPoint 6, with the expectation of eventually upgrading to
> > > V7 at some point. Obviously things did not work out as planned with
> > > V7, not the least of which was data conversion. It was certainly a
> > > difficult year. Well, the V7 project is effectively being discarded
> > > and V8 will take its place. With V8, AltaPoint will revert back to
> > > the V6 platform and simply upgrade it with new features. Unlike V7 it
> > > will not be Mac compatible. Anyone who purchased V7 or was eligible
> > > to receive V7, will instead receive V8. I have already viewed the
> > > beta and it worked just fine - no conversion issues at all. I will
> > > keep this group informed as to the release date, at this point it
> > > looks like sometime in December.
>
> > --
> > Josh Berry, ND
> > HNMC
> > Hawleyville, CT 06440
> > (203) 426-2306
> > Fax (203) 426-1327
> >www.hawleyvillenaturopathic.com
>
> --
> Peter Gensheimer
>
> - Show quoted text -
Lytec Group Admin
Nov 21, 2007, 11:34:09 AM11/21/07
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Didn't mean to belittle the issue - hope it was not interpreted that
way. In your comment you mention ROI (Return on Investment) - the
analysis of ROI is an accounting function, hence what I was implying
in my earlier comment. I believe Doug put it in more general terms
during our last meeting, but the meaning is the same...there just
wasn't enough interest in the Mac world to justify the investment of
time and resources necessary to support 2 OS platforms. As a result,
a decision was made to put those resources toward the ongoing
improvement of a product for a much larger Windows population.
Perhaps a another point that I did not make is that those who
purchased V7 can still use it on a Mac and it continues to be
supported by AltaPoint.
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
way. In your comment you mention ROI (Return on Investment) - the
analysis of ROI is an accounting function, hence what I was implying
in my earlier comment. I believe Doug put it in more general terms
during our last meeting, but the meaning is the same...there just
wasn't enough interest in the Mac world to justify the investment of
time and resources necessary to support 2 OS platforms. As a result,
a decision was made to put those resources toward the ongoing
improvement of a product for a much larger Windows population.
Perhaps a another point that I did not make is that those who
purchased V7 can still use it on a Mac and it continues to be
supported by AltaPoint.
Glenn M. Breda
Nov 21, 2007, 11:51:58 AM11/21/07
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How do I get off of this mailing list, please. Thank you.
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