I spy

[Betty]

I was just at a certain web site, looking for a movie, and I saw a brand
new short subject pop up. Very good! [g]
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[FromTheRafters]

It happens that Betty formulated :

> I was just at a certain web site, looking for a movie, and I saw a brand new
> short subject pop up. Very good! [g]

Remember the upside down tree video with the sound of the tree falling
in the woods? That might have been what I heard. It pays to look up
when walking around here, especially if it is breezy.

[Betty]

I remember the sounds from the video, which you explained at the time.
You said part of it was your shoulder and part of it was a tree falling.
I couldn't tell for sure, but there is what appears to be a tree trunk
laying crosswise up high in the branches of other trees in the new
video. That is definitely a dangerous situation for walking in the area.
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[FromTheRafters]

Betty brought next idea :

Yes, it is a tree trunk snagged by some other trees. It is way up there
and horizontal - and moving in the breeze.

[Betty]

I hope you don't plan to inspect it further. Maybe it will fall during a
strong wind during the night and not cause a problem.
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[FromTheRafters]

Betty formulated the question :

It should, it moves quite a bit in the wind.

[Betty]

That's good. I wonder how long it's been in the tree tops.
--
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[FromTheRafters]

Betty explained on 4/20/2020 :

When there are leaves on the trees it can't be seen. A hidden danger.

[Betty]

That makes the situation worse for anyone passing through the area.

There are hidden dangers everywhere now. The tree top leaner can easily
be avoided, the new bug making its way around the world is a little
trickier. I read to keep up with the latest news, but it's getting hard
to take.
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[FromTheRafters]

on 4/21/2020, Betty supposed :

It's private property, not too much chance of anyone wandering around
in there.

> There are hidden dangers everywhere now. The tree top leaner can easily be
> avoided, the new bug making its way around the world is a little trickier. I
> read to keep up with the latest news, but it's getting hard to take.

I really wish such things weren't always being politicized.

[Betty]

Oh, I thought it was in the park.

>> There are hidden dangers everywhere now. The tree top leaner can
>> easily be avoided, the new bug making its way around the world is a
>> little trickier. I read to keep up with the latest news, but it's
>> getting hard to take.
>
> I really wish such things weren't always being politicized.

Yes ... I do too. There is a very wide range of opinion and reactions to
the situation, and no set solution for staying safe. I don't understand
an attitude that X number are going to get sick, or die, anyway so we
shouldn't worry about it. I wonder how they will feel if they become one
of those Xs.
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[FromTheRafters]

Betty was thinking very hard :

I wish there was a group like alt.seance.covid19 where I could go to
say "I told you so" to all the dead naysayers.

[Betty]

That would be funny. [g] It would also be interesting to see what they
had to say in return.
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[FromTheRafters]

I figure they'd say "Nobody then, knew it would do that" even though it
was *another* I told you so. Sometimes, they simply aren't exposed to
the truth and they see us as the small lunatic fringe chicken-little
democratic deep state hoaxters.

It helps to get news from around the world instead of just from the
King's network.

[Betty]

It does take several sources to learn what's happening everywhere. I
seldom ever watch any clips from FOX news. They have the real lunatics,
Trump supporters posing as legitimate reporters. I've had to stop
reading many posters because of the vitriol aimed at people who use
their brains in a more reasonable manner. I hope I can discern the
truth. I know which things make more sense, and 'hoax' is not one of
them. I do know who the liars are, so that helps.

I got a letter from my bank saying that some branches will be closing,
and that if I need cash I should use the drive through, that I should
get a debit card and use ATMs. I've always gone into the bank and dealt
with a teller, but I guess there's not going to be a choice.
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[FromTheRafters]

After serious thinking Betty wrote :

They lost me long ago due to their lies. They became an entertainment
show and propagated lies to get ratings. The vast majority of online
news outlets are the same way, and "helpful" filters on YT/FB keep
feeding more biased news to those the algorithm figures will eat them
up.

> They have the real lunatics, Trump
> supporters posing as legitimate reporters. I've had to stop reading many
> posters because of the vitriol aimed at people who use their brains in a more
> reasonable manner. I hope I can discern the truth. I know which things make
> more sense, and 'hoax' is not one of them. I do know who the liars are, so
> that helps.
>
> I got a letter from my bank saying that some branches will be closing, and
> that if I need cash I should use the drive through, that I should get a debit
> card and use ATMs. I've always gone into the bank and dealt with a teller,
> but I guess there's not going to be a choice.

I use the ATM drive-through at my local bank branch, it works pretty
well.

[Betty]

I look at a few news sources on YT, and I look at local news web sites.
I read a smattering of news stories on Yahoo, which are mostly reprints
from other sources. I watch interviews with "experts" and politicians. I
check Snopes. I don't know what else to do. Which source do you find to
be the most reliable?

>> They have the real lunatics, Trump supporters posing as legitimate
>> reporters. I've had to stop reading many posters because of the
>> vitriol aimed at people who use their brains in a more reasonable
>> manner. I hope I can discern the truth. I know which things make more
>> sense, and 'hoax' is not one of them. I do know who the liars are, so
>> that helps.
>>
>> I got a letter from my bank saying that some branches will be closing,
>> and that if I need cash I should use the drive through, that I should
>> get a debit card and use ATMs. I've always gone into the bank and
>> dealt with a teller, but I guess there's not going to be a choice.
>
> I use the ATM drive-through at my local bank branch, it works pretty well.

I guess that's what I'll do. I was just looking at ordering groceries
online from Walmart. That seems like a good way to shop, but I'm not
comfortable with the idea of using my credit card online. I'll have a
conference with a family member first, they have ordered that way.
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[FromTheRafters]

None of them actually. Some start out with "According to sources..."
and they list some sources - you go there to find it doesn't say
anything like what they say it does. A purposeful misreading and
misrepresentation of the facts in order to support an agenda. Then,
other sites reference that story for their further interpretation and
so on. No wonder Trump got elected. Some rumor becomes news because
hundreds of articles are propagated this way all lending seeming
legitimacy to each other.

[Betty]

Trump started a ton of fake news himself. The reason I'd rather watch
interviews is because I can hear the exact statements. Then wait to see
if it's lies or mistakes. I guess we just take what we get and hope for
the best. I can't believe the lies about Hillary Clinton are still being
run through the rumor mill.
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[FromTheRafters]

Betty pretended :

About her, I think it is a shame that candidates can't sue other
candidates for slander and libel for the slanderous and libelous things
they accuse each other of. Why can't the people get some resolution? If
Hillary deserved to have the deplorables chant "lock her up, lock her
up" then they should still have to prove their very very public
accusations after they win the election. Whatever happened to truth and
integrity?

[Betty]

Politics is a dirty business, and many of the people who get involved
are not the best of characters. It's hard to understand when you're
witnessing the circus from our vantage point. Campaigns are long and
arduous and a law suit would be no different, but would be worth it to
prove that lies are not acceptable. I agree that there should be proof
of the accusations, but the followers of the candidates are still going
to believe many of the lies regardless. The people who hate Hillary
would never believe the truth.
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[FromTheRafters]

Betty expressed precisely :

That's true, in fact I'm starting to believe that the trumpastupiditis
epidemic has infected all of the republican party.

[Betty]

I think you're right. I can't read it today, other problems here ... bad
day yesterday.



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[FromTheRafters]

Sorry to hear that, hope things get better.

[Betty]

Thanks FTR, things got a little better today. I have now have milk and
food for a few more days.
--
.

[Betty]

By the way, FTR ... your new word is very good. [g] I was just thinking
about some of your other amusing creations, so smart. I hope your hands
are better and that you had a good day.
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[FromTheRafters]

My hands are better, they were painful and peeling for the last few
days but today they seem almost normal.

[Betty]

Almost normal is improvement, that's good. The peeling must be painful
when the skin catches on something. Maybe today will bring more
improvement and give you a break. I hope you have an interesting day,
something fun to watch, or do.

Full speed ahead!
--
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[FromTheRafters]

Betty explained :

There are a lot more of those somethings than most people would think.
Fabrics sometimes or really annoying in that respect.

> Maybe today will bring more improvement and
> give you a break. I hope you have an interesting day, something fun to watch,
> or do.
>
> Full speed ahead!

Kick back and relax day for me, and my doctor's office called to
arrange a telephone "office visit" for Monday instead of me going down
there on Tuesday. I still need some junk food though.

[Betty]

That's the way to spend the day ... relaxed. The doctor's visit sounds
good too. I don't know how it will work, but not having to go to the
office seems so much better. My doctor is one of the reasons I had such
a bad day Wednesday, but I'll tell you later.

Junk food is the best, but probably not so nutritious for you. I watched
a video earlier, sort of showing how shredded wheat is made. I used to
eat that for snacks, no milk and sugar. Right now I'd like to have some
Pepperige Farm Pirouettes, but will settle for the corn flakes I *do* have.

Good luck on getting what *you* want.
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[FromTheRafters]

I used to like the shredded wheat miniatures with I think it was
strawberry filling. The ones without filling are probably better for
you.

[Betty]

I haven't seen that version of shredded wheat. I think the whole grain
wheat is what's good for you, and if the filling is really fruit based
it should be okay. I don't know. I hope you got the junk food you
wanted, I sat here wishing for some nacho chips and rotel cheese dip.

I got curious about growing celery because I didn't have any yesterday
when cooking a roast. It sounds so complicated I'm surprised that it is
as cheap as it is. I won't be trying to grow any. I have grown
strawberries, but the birds usually got them before me.
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[FromTheRafters]

Betty explained on 4/25/2020 :

Sis used to have a vegetable garden before she got cancer, then she no
longer had the stamina for it. I saw a butterfly yesterday. I went for
a walk and had my glasses hung on the neck of my sweater. I got home
and walked around back and grabbed a small branch that was on the lawn
and put it on the brush pile.

Went back inside and put my coat on the chair back, went upstairs and
attached my camera to my computer, put my keys in my key tray, and
looked around for my glasses. I see double for a while after medicating
and that didn't help any but I figured I could take another pair of
glasses to help me to look for the other 'lost' pair.

I went out to where I leaned over to pick up that small branch, and
looked around with my cheap readers on and double vision in each eye
and with leaves and twigs and brown grass those slim brown framed good
readers were invisible.

I figured I should look again later with the dun at a different angle
and maybe they would clint at me. I repeated the search four times and
on the last time just as the sun was setting I found them after taking
my cheap readers off and just using my eyes.

[Betty]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> Betty explained on 4/25/2020 :
[...]

>>
>> I got curious about growing celery because I didn't have any yesterday
>> when cooking a roast. It sounds so complicated I'm surprised that it
>> is as cheap as it is. I won't be trying to grow any. I have grown
>> strawberries, but the birds usually got them before me.
>
> Sis used to have a vegetable garden before she got cancer, then she no
> longer had the stamina for it. I saw a butterfly yesterday. I went for a
> walk and had my glasses hung on the neck of my sweater. I got home and
> walked around back and grabbed a small branch that was on the lawn and
> put it on the brush pile.
>

Gardening does take stamina and a lot of work. Your sis may miss it on
one level, but glad to not work that hard now. She's had a rough time
with being being ill and having so many surgeries.

I was wondering if you were going to look for caterpillars this year.
Maybe you got some good butterfly photos while you were out. Your blue
butterfly video keeps showing up in recommended videos for me at YT.

> Went back inside and put my coat on the chair back, went upstairs and
> attached my camera to my computer, put my keys in my key tray, and
> looked around for my glasses. I see double for a while after medicating
> and that didn't help any but I figured I could take another pair of
> glasses to help me to look for the other 'lost' pair.
>
> I went out to where I leaned over to pick up that small branch, and
> looked around with my cheap readers on and double vision in each eye and
> with leaves and twigs and brown grass those slim brown framed good
> readers were invisible.
>
> I figured I should look again later with the dun at a different angle
> and maybe they would clint at me. I repeated the search four times and
> on the last time just as the sun was setting I found them after taking
> my cheap readers off and just using my eyes.

It's so frustrating to have blurry vision, even more frustrating when
you lose your glasses. I'm glad you found yours. A lot of searching to
find a misplaced pair of glasses is no fun, especially when you find
them and realize you had looked in the spot where they were several
times without seeing them. Hopefully your vision will improve. I hope
you're you're feeling better, refreshed from a nice walk. I always like
to read about your walks.

I watched the snag video again a couple of hours ago, that was an
adventurous outing. The blogger showed a fallen tree in his latest post,
and he mentioned the same thing you said about shallow roots being the
cause.

Have a great day, FTR. The weather doesn't appear promising for outdoor
activities, but maybe the forecast is not accurate.
--
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[FromTheRafters]

Betty expressed precisely :

> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> Betty explained on 4/25/2020 :
> [...]
>>>
>>> I got curious about growing celery because I didn't have any yesterday
>>> when cooking a roast. It sounds so complicated I'm surprised that it is as
>>> cheap as it is. I won't be trying to grow any. I have grown strawberries,
>>> but the birds usually got them before me.
>>
>> Sis used to have a vegetable garden before she got cancer, then she no
>> longer had the stamina for it. I saw a butterfly yesterday. I went for a
>> walk and had my glasses hung on the neck of my sweater. I got home and
>> walked around back and grabbed a small branch that was on the lawn and put
>> it on the brush pile.
>>
>
> Gardening does take stamina and a lot of work. Your sis may miss it on one
> level, but glad to not work that hard now. She's had a rough time with being
> being ill and having so many surgeries.
>
> I was wondering if you were going to look for caterpillars this year.

I have seen some banded woolly bears and some black fuzzy ones so far.
One butterfly. Our tulips and daffodils are showing some bright colors
now too. Soon it will be all cheery outside with birds singing
everywhere.

> Maybe
> you got some good butterfly photos while you were out. Your blue butterfly
> video keeps showing up in recommended videos for me at YT.

Yeah, their algorithm has some problems. I turned off "Comments" on my
videos, so I expected no notifications about comments on my videos -
but I got a notification the other day about a comment. I checked it
out, somebody posted EEeeewww! or something like that to my crowned
slug video.

>
>> Went back inside and put my coat on the chair back, went upstairs and
>> attached my camera to my computer, put my keys in my key tray, and looked
>> around for my glasses. I see double for a while after medicating and that
>> didn't help any but I figured I could take another pair of glasses to help
>> me to look for the other 'lost' pair.
>>
>> I went out to where I leaned over to pick up that small branch, and looked
>> around with my cheap readers on and double vision in each eye and with
>> leaves and twigs and brown grass those slim brown framed good readers were
>> invisible.
>>
>> I figured I should look again later with the dun at a different angle and
>> maybe they would clint at me. I repeated the search four times and on the
>> last time just as the sun was setting I found them after taking my cheap
>> readers off and just using my eyes.
>
> It's so frustrating to have blurry vision, even more frustrating when you
> lose your glasses. I'm glad you found yours. A lot of searching to find a
> misplaced pair of glasses is no fun, especially when you find them and
> realize you had looked in the spot where they were several times without
> seeing them. Hopefully your vision will improve. I hope you're you're feeling
> better, refreshed from a nice walk. I always like to read about your walks.
>
> I watched the snag video again a couple of hours ago, that was an adventurous
> outing. The blogger showed a fallen tree in his latest post, and he mentioned
> the same thing you said about shallow roots being the cause.
>
> Have a great day, FTR. The weather doesn't appear promising for outdoor
> activities, but maybe the forecast is not accurate.

Too cool for me to enjoy it today I think. I noticed the server went
down again.

[Betty]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> Betty expressed precisely :
>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> Betty explained on 4/25/2020 :
>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> I got curious about growing celery because I didn't have any
>>>> yesterday when cooking a roast. It sounds so complicated I'm
>>>> surprised that it is as cheap as it is. I won't be trying to grow
>>>> any. I have grown strawberries, but the birds usually got them
>>>> before me.
>>>
>>> Sis used to have a vegetable garden before she got cancer, then she
>>> no longer had the stamina for it. I saw a butterfly yesterday. I went
>>> for a walk and had my glasses hung on the neck of my sweater. I got
>>> home and walked around back and grabbed a small branch that was on
>>> the lawn and put it on the brush pile.
>>>
>>
>> Gardening does take stamina and a lot of work. Your sis may miss it on
>> one level, but glad to not work that hard now. She's had a rough time
>> with being being ill and having so many surgeries.
>>
>> I was wondering if you were going to look for caterpillars this year.
>
> I have seen some banded woolly bears and some black fuzzy ones so far.
> One butterfly. Our tulips and daffodils are showing some bright colors
> now too. Soon it will be all cheery outside with birds singing everywhere.
>

I've not been outside to look for anything. I have heard a few birds
singing, very few. I've never heard a chorus like you have recorded. As
for flowers, I have some miniature roses in bloom, and that's about it.

>> Maybe you got some good butterfly photos while you were out. Your blue
>> butterfly video keeps showing up in recommended videos for me at YT.
>
> Yeah, their algorithm has some problems. I turned off "Comments" on my
> videos, so I expected no notifications about comments on my videos - but
> I got a notification the other day about a comment. I checked it out,
> somebody posted EEeeewww! or something like that to my crowned slug video.
>>

YT is a mess as far as I am concerned. It's ridiculous to have the
thumbnails play a portion of the video while you're searching the
choices. I also noticed that the thumbs up I clicked on the snag video
is no longer marked. I may go back to see if I can correct that. I don't
know why anyone would comment when it says they are turned off. People
are so weird.

Yes, I discovered the server down yesterday morning. It may get fixed,
but you never know.
--
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[FromTheRafters]

It happens that Betty formulated :

> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> Betty expressed precisely :
>>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> Betty explained on 4/25/2020 :
>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> I got curious about growing celery because I didn't have any yesterday
>>>>> when cooking a roast. It sounds so complicated I'm surprised that it is
>>>>> as cheap as it is. I won't be trying to grow any. I have grown
>>>>> strawberries, but the birds usually got them before me.
>>>>
>>>> Sis used to have a vegetable garden before she got cancer, then she no
>>>> longer had the stamina for it. I saw a butterfly yesterday. I went for a
>>>> walk and had my glasses hung on the neck of my sweater. I got home and
>>>> walked around back and grabbed a small branch that was on the lawn and
>>>> put it on the brush pile.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gardening does take stamina and a lot of work. Your sis may miss it on one
>>> level, but glad to not work that hard now. She's had a rough time with
>>> being being ill and having so many surgeries.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if you were going to look for caterpillars this year.
>>
>> I have seen some banded woolly bears and some black fuzzy ones so far. One
>> butterfly. Our tulips and daffodils are showing some bright colors now too.
>> Soon it will be all cheery outside with birds singing everywhere.
>>
>
> I've not been outside to look for anything. I have heard a few birds singing,
> very few. I've never heard a chorus like you have recorded. As for flowers, I
> have some miniature roses in bloom, and that's about it.

I just photographed our tulip buds and some other thing that is with
them.

>>> Maybe you got some good butterfly photos while you were out. Your blue
>>> butterfly video keeps showing up in recommended videos for me at YT.
>>
>> Yeah, their algorithm has some problems. I turned off "Comments" on my
>> videos, so I expected no notifications about comments on my videos - but I
>> got a notification the other day about a comment. I checked it out,
>> somebody posted EEeeewww! or something like that to my crowned slug video.

> YT is a mess as far as I am concerned. It's ridiculous to have the thumbnails
> play a portion of the video while you're searching the choices. I also
> noticed that the thumbs up I clicked on the snag video is no longer marked. I
> may go back to see if I can correct that. I don't know why anyone would
> comment when it says they are turned off. People are so weird.

If there is no place to comment, how did he do so? I'm guessing he was
viewing an old version, locally cached, which still allowed it.

I'll be patient.

[Betty]

That sounds pretty, I look forward to seeing the photos.

>>>> Maybe you got some good butterfly photos while you were out. Your
>>>> blue butterfly video keeps showing up in recommended videos for me
>>>> at YT.
>>>
>>> Yeah, their algorithm has some problems. I turned off "Comments" on
>>> my videos, so I expected no notifications about comments on my videos
>>> - but I got a notification the other day about a comment. I checked
>>> it out, somebody posted EEeeewww! or something like that to my
>>> crowned slug video.
>
>> YT is a mess as far as I am concerned. It's ridiculous to have the
>> thumbnails play a portion of the video while you're searching the
>> choices. I also noticed that the thumbs up I clicked on the snag video
>> is no longer marked. I may go back to see if I can correct that. I
>> don't know why anyone would comment when it says they are turned off.
>> People are so weird.
>
> If there is no place to comment, how did he do so? I'm guessing he was
> viewing an old version, locally cached, which still allowed it.
>

That may be, or if there was a previous comment on the video there may
be a way. I've never left a comment so I don't know how it works.

[...]

>>>>
>>>> Have a great day, FTR. The weather doesn't appear promising for
>>>> outdoor activities, but maybe the forecast is not accurate.
>>>
>>> Too cool for me to enjoy it today I think. I noticed the server went
>>> down again.
>>
>> Yes, I discovered the server down yesterday morning. It may get fixed,
>> but you never know.
>
> I'll be patient.

Me too, with expectation of a fix.
--
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[Betty]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> It happens that Betty formulated :

>> I was just at a certain web site, looking for a movie, and I saw a
>> brand new short subject pop up. Very good! [g]
>
> Remember the upside down tree video with the sound of the tree falling
> in the woods? That might have been what I heard. It pays to look up when
> walking around here, especially if it is breezy.

I've re-read this several times trying to decide if you mean the tree
snagged in the tops of other trees, and I think it is what you mean. You
did say to look up. I went searching for the video with the sound of the
falling tree, it's from August of 2017. That's a long time for the tree
to have been hanging if it is the one you heard. Having reviewed the
2017 video again, I can see how you carefully followed the length of the
upside down tree for a very detailed view. I enjoyed watching it again.
--
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[FromTheRafters]

Betty expressed precisely :

> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> It happens that Betty formulated :
>>> I was just at a certain web site, looking for a movie, and I saw a brand
>>> new short subject pop up. Very good! [g]
>>
>> Remember the upside down tree video with the sound of the tree falling in
>> the woods? That might have been what I heard. It pays to look up when
>> walking around here, especially if it is breezy.
>
> I've re-read this several times trying to decide if you mean the tree snagged
> in the tops of other trees, and I think it is what you mean.

Yes, from the sound level and direction the sound came from, it very
well could have been that event which I heard.

> You did say to
> look up. I went searching for the video with the sound of the falling tree,
> it's from August of 2017. That's a long time for the tree to have been
> hanging if it is the one you heard. Having reviewed the 2017 video again, I
> can see how you carefully followed the length of the upside down tree for a
> very detailed view. I enjoyed watching it again.

I find the tree interesting, it is not 'new growth' green yet but I am
hopeful.

[Betty]

I'm hopeful too. It would be a big disappointment to lose that tree,
especially after all the years it has managed to hold on.
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