I am still learning
Ruofeng Liu
I am still learning. Maybe that is why I can't really learn
anything? but how do I learn the not learning?
I am still learning. Maybe that is why my world keeps changing
everyday. one day it's a world of buddha. The next day it becomes
the world of horror. The other day it becomes the world of anger.
...
Masters, Great teachers, please bear with me. When I left that
place called home, the only thing I can do is to sink my teeth into
you guy's butt to get a moment of comfort.
Sorry! There just isn't anybody else I can reach...
Sorry! If that make you feel pain. At the day I woke up from dream
I wasn't feeling any better than you are now.(trust me)
How much does it take for a master to enlighten a student?
ruofeng
Steven A. Lightfoot
liur...@news.humberc.on.ca (Ruofeng Liu) wrote:
>How much does it take for a master to enlighten a student?
>ruofeng
Foot:
A master who is willing to let someone else teach him who they are and
where they are so they can both know. This can only happen within
the context of athomeness with one another and complete trust.
Arnold Vance
In article <5f8080$j...@dns.humberc.on.ca>,
>
>ruofeng
How much does it take for a student to read himself?
-arn
Arnold Vance
-arn
William Martin
Ruofeng Liu (liur...@news.humberc.on.ca) wrote:
[snip]
: How much does it take for a master to enlighten a student?
Life sucks, then you die. If you're lucky. If you're unlucky,
then you see how bad life *really* sucks. If you are cursed,
life is transparent, visible as the cyclic fraud that it is.
After which, even happiness is a structural lie. Beyond that lies
madness. And that is a threshold that must be most carefully plumbed,
for only the care-less pass beyond madness. Actually, that's not
entirely true...only the sharpest exit so. After that....well...
hahahahahahahahahahahaha! No mercy.
Sharpen your diamond, take your big dump, but most of all, please
wipe your ass, it's attracting flies.
-Will
,
Ned Ludd
In <5f8080$j...@dns.humberc.on.ca> liur...@news.humberc.on.ca (Ruofeng
Liu) writes:
>
> I am still learning. Maybe that is why my world keeps changing
> everyday. one day it's a world of buddha. The next day it becomes
> the world of horror. The other day it becomes the world of anger.
>...
>
Yes! That's how I learned that it's not the world that is
changing from day to day.
Ned
dharma bum
--
i'll ride the wind where it takes me ...
William Martin <vo...@world.std.com> wrote in article
<E6CsE...@world.std.com>...
>
> After which, even happiness is a structural lie. Beyond that lies
> madness. And that is a threshold that must be most carefully plumbed,
> for only the care-less pass beyond madness.
and meantime william there's them havanas, dom perignon and women with
"love in their eyes ...
.. and flowers in their hair ... "
db
dharma bum
--
i'll ride the wind where it takes me ...
Ned Ludd <ned...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<5f9gld$7...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>...
yes! and that's how i also learned that it's the world that is changing
from day to day
oh shite !
db
sman...@inetworld.net
In article <5f8kpe$m...@panix.com>,
e...@panix.com (Arnold Vance) wrote:
> Where is that place called home?
> -arn
In your soul.
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rliu...@gnn.com
In article <5f8kpe$m...@panix.com>,
It seems everybody talk about it, but few really know.
(quite different in alt.zen I suppose)
Ruofeng
genein
rliu...@gnn.com wrote:
>
> In article <5f8kpe$m...@panix.com>,
> e...@panix.com (Arnold Vance) wrote:
> > >
> > Where is that place called home?
> > -arn
>
> It seems everybody talk about it, but few really know.
> (quite different in alt.zen I suppose)
>
> Ruofeng
and the names of these few?
genein (at home anywhere)
V. Lore
arn:
Where is that place called home?
Ruofeng:
It seems everybody talk about it, but few really know.
(quite different in alt.zen I suppose)
genein (at home anywhere):
and the names of these few?
virginia:
anytime two people get close enough to whisper their names to eachother,
there home is.
rliu...@gnn.com
In article <331C85...@worldnet.att.net>,
genein <gen...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> rliu...@gnn.com wrote:
> >
> > In article <5f8kpe$m...@panix.com>,
> > e...@panix.com (Arnold Vance) wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > It seems everybody talk about it, but few really know.
> > (quite different in alt.zen I suppose)
> >
>
> and the names of these few?
>
Yes? Just can't wait to find out, but One is as good as many.
What's your name? kindly satisfy my curiosity?
ruofeng (coming home from school)
Arnold Vance
Everything's in your soul.
ruofeng
-arn
Steph
It seems everybody talk about it, but few really know.
gen(u)ein
Arnold Vance
genein
rliu...@gnn.com wrote:
>
> In article <331C85...@worldnet.att.net>,
> genein <gen...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> > rliu...@gnn.com wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <5f8kpe$m...@panix.com>,
> > > e...@panix.com (Arnold Vance) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > Where is that place called home?
> > > > -arn
> > >
> > >
> > > Ruofeng
> >
> > and the names of these few?
> >
> > genein (at home anywhere)
>
> Yes? Just can't wait to find out, but One is as good as many.
> What's your name? kindly satisfy my curiosity?
>
> ruofeng (coming home from school)
but you seem to indicate you knew???
Name: genein (waiting for "godot")
genein
V. Lore wrote:
>
> arn:
> Where is that place called home?
>
> It seems everybody talk about it, but few really know.
> (quite different in alt.zen I suppose)
>
> and the names of these few?
>
> anytime two people get close enough to whisper their names to eachother,
> there home is.
hmmmm, how do we play this on a global level?
genein
genero
Hahahahahhahahahhaha. Sometimes you crack me up. How do you play the
game you are already playing everyday? Keep playing the game you are
playing, keep speaking the possibilities you are seeing. Speak it onto
the internet. Go to as many ng's as you wish and say the same things
you have been saying and asking the same questions you have been
asking. Tell your wife and your children. Act from these truths in
your relationships with every living thing everytime you relate to
them. Every time you say "we are One", everytime you say "if I hurt
you, I hurt me", every time you say "I love you, not for a reason, but
because I do", in your words and in your actions, someone is listening.
You play the game on a global level when you cause the conversation to
be alive. Much of what we see and how we relate to others and the
universe is a conversation. Who is speaking and what they are speaking
to influences how people think and how they will relate the next time.
Did you really think you were not already a part in having the truths
and the possibilities you know exist more clearly on a global level?
Think again seeker of peace and love, your commitment in the matter *is*
making a difference.
genero
rliu...@gnn.com
In article <5fj733$r...@panix.com>,
My God!!!
Ruofeng Liu
In article <331DAA...@worldnet.att.net>,
genein <gen...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Yes? Just can't wait to find out, but One is as good as many.
>> What's your name? kindly satisfy my curiosity?
>>
>> ruofeng (coming home from school)
>
>but you seem to indicate you knew???
>
>Name: genein (waiting for "godot")
>
mm, mmmm, m.........
What is godot?
ruofeng
george walter chapman
In <5flife$9...@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> Ruofeng Liu <Ruo...@netcom.ca>
writes:
(Announcer rings bell loudly: DONG!) Ah, I'm sorry, wrong question.
It should be WHO is Godot. But let's tote up your winnings today...
Wally
Diane Brodson
genein (gen...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: V. Lore wrote:
: >
: > arn:
: > Where is that place called home?
: >
: > Ruofeng:
: > (quite different in alt.zen I suppose)
: >
: > genein (at home anywhere):
: > and the names of these few?
: >
: > virginia:
: > anytime two people get close enough to whisper their names to eachother,
: > there home is.
:
: hmmmm, how do we play this on a global level?
:
: genein
On the Net - we're whispering right now.
Diane
Ruofeng Liu
In article <5flkmb$t...@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com>,
ned...@ix.netcom.com(Ned Ludd ) wrote:
>In <5flife$9...@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> Ruofeng Liu <Ruo...@netcom.ca>
>>
>>In article <331DAA...@worldnet.att.net>,
>> genein <gen...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes? Just can't wait to find out, but One is as good as many.
>>>> What's your name? kindly satisfy my curiosity?
>>>>
>>>> ruofeng (coming home from school)
>>>
>>>but you seem to indicate you knew???
>>>
>>>Name: genein (waiting for "godot")
>>>
>>
>> mm, mmmm, m.........
>>
>> What is godot?
>>
>
>
> Ned
>
aha? Isn't that easy? Isn't that simple?
Steven A. Lightfoot
"V. Lore" <vl...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>arn:
> Where is that place called home?
>Ruofeng:
> It seems everybody talk about it, but few really know.
> (quite different in alt.zen I suppose)
>genein (at home anywhere):
>and the names of these few?
>virginia:
>anytime two people get close enough to whisper their names to eachother,
>there home is.
ffffoooottttsssssiiiieee.
Ruofeng Liu
In article <5fmh6l$c...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>,
wall...@ix.netcom.com(george walter chapman) wrote:
>
>(Announcer rings bell loudly: DONG!) Ah, I'm sorry, wrong question.
>It should be WHO is Godot. But let's tote up your winnings today...
>
>Wally
>
>
Mads Olsen
Arnold Vance <e...@panix.com> wrote in article
<5fngn6$r...@panix2.panix.com>...
> I am still learning. Maybe that is why I can't really learn
> anything? but how do I learn the not learning?
>
> I am still learning. Maybe that is why my world keeps changing
> everyday. one day it's a world of buddha. The next day it becomes
> the world of horror. The other day it becomes the world of anger.
> ....
>
> Masters, Great teachers, please bear with me. When I left that
> place called home, the only thing I can do is to sink my teeth into
> you guy's butt to get a moment of comfort.
> Sorry! There just isn't anybody else I can reach...
> Sorry! If that make you feel pain. At the day I woke up from dream
> I wasn't feeling any better than you are now.(trust me)
>
> How much does it take for a master to enlighten a student?
>
> ruofeng
>
>
I am glad to hear that your world is changing so often, and that you have
all these problems! I once had them to, and it is the only way to reach
enlightment.
You just have to have problems- only when there is problems there can be
growth.
In begining it was VERY VERY hard, but after a while a state of peace and
comfort came more and more often; and finaly there is only clearnes/one
truth.
What you will recognise is that every time you have "peace" with your self,
it is even better than the last time you had "peace" inside you. This will
continue untill you have learned why your world is changing; you will more
and more become one with your self.
You should be glad to have these problems! :) As I said; only trough them
you will reach higher states.
Very many trying to reach enlightment never does!!!! Because they dont
have the opportunity to have such problems as you have, and I had.
The problems you have is REALY a simple sollution to; but you have to
UNDERSTAND it yourself. Then you will see how simple it realy is. You will
probably laugh at how simple the sollution was.
GOOD LUCK!!!!! Hope you will have a HARD time before you, because the
reward is VERY big, and you will be totaly FREE.
Mads
NORWAY
V. Lore
Anytime two people get close enough to whisper eachother's names,
there enlightenment is.
[And she leans forward and whispers]: Diane.
Virginia
Arnold Vance
Ned Ludd
Ned Ludd
In <01bb0ae8$2015a340$cd07f8c2@origo> "Mads Olsen" <mads...@sn.no>
writes:
>GOOD LUCK!!!!! Hope you will have a HARD time before you, because the
>reward is VERY big, and you will be totaly FREE.
>
>Mads
>NORWAY
>
Yeah? How does that compare to posting on the Internet?
Ned
Steven A. Lightfoot
e...@panix.com (Arnold Vance) wrote:
>I am still learning. Maybe that is why I can't really learn
>anything? but how do I learn the not learning?
>I am still learning. Maybe that is why my world keeps changing
>everyday. one day it's a world of buddha. The next day it becomes
>the world of horror. The other day it becomes the world of anger.
Foot:
You are not separate from those things. There is not a *you* and a
*them*.
>....
>Masters, Great teachers, please bear with me. When I left that
>place called home, the only thing I can do is to sink my teeth into
>you guy's butt to get a moment of comfort.
>Sorry! There just isn't anybody else I can reach...
>Sorry! If that make you feel pain. At the day I woke up from dream
>I wasn't feeling any better than you are now.(trust me)
Foot:
Feelings have little to do with it.
>How much does it take for a master to enlighten a student?
>ruofeng
Foot:
You.
Ned Ludd
In <5fn1ep$5...@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> Ruofeng Liu <Ruo...@netcom.ca>
writes:
>>>Name: genein (waiting for "godot")
>>>
>> mm, mmmm, m.........
>> What is godot?
>>
> What you're waiting for.
>
> aha? Isn't that easy? Isn't that simple?
>
Do not sit and wait for enlightenment,
for great enlightenment is to be found
in everyday activities, such as eating
or drinking tea.
- Dogen
Ruofeng Liu
In article <5fnu8p$c...@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>,
I would trade anything for the privilege to follow up you, uncle Ned.
ruofeng
Ned Ludd
In <5fp317$q...@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> Ruofeng Liu <Ruo...@netcom.ca>
writes:
Mads wrote:
>> GOOD LUCK!!!!! Hope you will have a HARD time before you, because
>> the reward is VERY big, and you will be totaly FREE.
>>
> Yeah? How does that compare to posting on the Internet?
>
> Peanuts?
> I would trade anything for the privilege to follow up you, uncle Ned.
>
So easy. So simple.
"A refined cream soup is not necessarily better than a broth of
wild grasses. This is because when you serve the assembly -
the pure ocean of Buddha Dharma - you do not notice the taste
of fine cream or the taste of wild grasses. The great ocean
has only one taste."
- Dogen
Arnold Vance
In article <Pine.A41.3.95b.97030...@homer19.u.washington.edu>,
Get your grubs off! H/se's mine! Present your arguments and persuasions.
En garde!
-arn
(I hope you are scared by my _formidability_.)
V. Lore
On 7 Mar 1997, Arnold Vance wrote:
> In article <Pine.A41.3.95b.97030...@homer19.u.washington.edu>,
> V. Lore <vl...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> >Anytime two people get close enough to whisper eachother's names,
> >there enlightenment is.
> >
> >[And she leans forward and whispers]: Diane.
> >
Arn:
> Get your grubs off! H/se's mine! Present your arguments and persuasions.
> En garde!
> -arn
> (I hope you are scared by my _formidability_)
Virginia:
My love, we are all each other's.
We are all each other.
All. Each. Other. All.
Ruofeng Liu
In article <5fp9kr$n...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>,
ned...@ix.netcom.com(Ned Ludd ) wrote:
> "A refined cream soup is not necessarily better than a broth of
> wild grasses. This is because when you serve the assembly -
> the pure ocean of Buddha Dharma - you do not notice the taste
> of fine cream or the taste of wild grasses. The great ocean
> has only one taste."
> - Dogen
>
>
>
I am going to go for vegetarian. ok? :)
ruofeng.
Ned Ludd
In <5fqppf$d...@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> Ruofeng Liu <Ruo...@netcom.ca>
writes:
>
Ned quoted:
> "A refined cream soup is not necessarily better than a broth of
> wild grasses. This is because when you serve the assembly -
> the pure ocean of Buddha Dharma - you do not notice the taste
> of fine cream or the taste of wild grasses. The great ocean
> has only one taste." - Dogen
>
> Ooops, sometimes the cream soup taste just like shit. :(
> I am going to go for vegetarian. ok? :)
>
Aiiiieeeee...
"Even a warped piece of wood will, if handled by a good
carpenter, soon show the results of good craftsmanship."
- Dogen