Zen and Fine Art/Contemporary Art
Arch Stanton
Thoughts?
Many artists in the fifties were influences by DT Suzuki's lectures and
books, yet few of them ever became actively involved in meditation,
retreats, zen centers, etc. Except for only a few, most of these
artists emulated and appropriated aesthetic qualities only, or even
procedural qualities. They even parroted the statements of zen masters
from koans.
It insults me. Perhaps because it forces me to question my own
motives, my own influence from zen in my artwork. Perhaps my fear of
seeming a poser or imperialistic collector of "exotic" arts is pushing
me to find a deeper connection between my art and buddhism.
For all the energy, time and resources that have gone into learning to
draw, paint, sculpt, etc, as well as the actual building of a piece of
art, I wonder how I can better help the world, without taking on the
missionary mindset. Zen masters give of themselves constantly, always
looking for turning words... how can I do this with art?
Julian Love God
> Zen influence on "modern art".
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> Thoughts?
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Arch Stanton
Julian Love God wrote:
> Arch Stanton wrote:
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> Only secret ones.
What is Duchamp's not hiding it?
Julian Love God
liaM
Check out John Cage's art and music.
"zen" is only a word and a thing.
or to state it as a Taoist might think it
it's a banner flapping in the wind.
it's not zen that's important, not at all
it's the wind.
liaM
Arch Stanton
liaM wrote:
> Check out John Cage's art and music.
> "zen" is only a word and a thing.
> or to state it as a Taoist might think it
> it's a banner flapping in the wind.
Seems to me Cage's 4' 33" was perfect... but his excitement to bring
ordinary sounds into his nearly random compositions misses the mark.
Pierre Henri's "Door and a Sigh" is much more respectful of sound.
> it's not zen that's important, not at all
> it's the wind.
... and I wouldn't try to bottle the wind up and sell it as art.
liaM
> liaM wrote:
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>>Check out John Cage's art and music.
>>"zen" is only a word and a thing.
>> or to state it as a Taoist might think it
>>it's a banner flapping in the wind.
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> Seems to me Cage's 4' 33" was perfect... but his excitement to bring
> ordinary sounds into his nearly random compositions misses the mark.
> Pierre Henri's "Door and a Sigh" is much more respectful of sound.
blablabla
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>>it's not zen that's important, not at all
>>it's the wind.
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> ... and I wouldn't try to bottle the wind up and sell it as art.
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please stay just the way you are. don't become an artist.
Allen L. Barker
The Shambhala Zen Art Gallery
http://www.shambhala.com/html/zenart/index.cfm
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liaM
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> The Shambhala Zen Art Gallery
> http://www.shambhala.com/html/zenart/index.cfm
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Great pics..
many of them great imitations of great pics
Thanks!
Arch Stanton
liaM wrote:
> blablabla
Ah, so you've heard "La Porte Et Un Soupir".
> please stay just the way you are. don't become an artist.
Instead I'll become a tree and sway my branches in the wind.
Thanks for your thoughts though.
liaM
> liaM wrote:
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>>blablabla
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> Ah, so you've heard "La Porte Et Un Soupir".
Nope. apart music by elinae radigue, maryanne amacher, luc ferrari, leo
kuypers, bernard parmeggiani, george martin, ivan tcherepnin, gordfon
mumma, john cage, david tudor, edgar varese .. I've heard little musique
concrête.
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>>please stay just the way you are. don't become an artist.
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> Instead I'll become a tree and sway my branches in the wind.
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> Thanks for your thoughts though.
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you're welcome ;)
liaM