Hey y'all! My Shailee is there! I don't know how to build a site yet, so I
posted her pic there. Please go see her and tell me what you think! She is
under her name 'Shailee.' Thanx! Mary
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I thought YOU would say something like that. I don't agree. I know her
parents and their background and my vet noticed it right off the bat. The
breeders I have shown her to say that she is a 'beautiful example' of a
wolfdog. She looks a lot like the wolfdogs in the photos of the books I have
read and has more wolf characteristics that I can shake a stick at. However,
this is all falling on deaf ears. YOU know who has the ONLY wolfdogs and it
seems to be YOU. I have reread some of your previous posts and you have done
nothing but debate the companions/owners about weather or not they actually
do have a wolfdog. I don't care how much experience you have with the
animals. YOU ARE WRONG. When they nominate you the world's formost expert on
wolfdogs, I'll respect your opinion. As of right now, you seem more to be
the type of person who likes to be the 'know-it-all' and make everyone else
feel like a novice. I can't respect that. You don't have the knowledge or
understanding of our animals and cannot conclude anything except that they
are a type of dog. If you would care to come and visit my wolfdog, spend
about two weeks with her, look her over, watch her, learn her habits and
behavior, you are more than welcome. After that time, I MAY or MAY NOT take
your word for it. As of right now, you are just words on a screen and don't
have any idea what Shailee is or is not.
Mary
In article <6nmu97$75t$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
As if it were any of your business, she IS 69%. If you were as informed as
you try to make us think, you would know that a wolfdog can have a high
percentage and 'look' like a dog and a wolfdog that has a low percentage can
'look' more like a wolf. It's all the luck of the draw, so-to-speak. Knowing
this, looking at pictures of wolfdogs will not do a thing for me or anyone
else. Monty Sloan is more than welcome to come and spend some time with my
Shailee. Although I seriously doubt that he will be as concerned with making
sure people doubt the content of their wolfdogs as you are. You might want
to ask him for permission before you start posting that we can contact him
about our animals. Reguardless of what you think, we are not all stupid or
gullible. You are not the only person who has 'genuine' wolfdogs. As far as
my qualificattions go, I am not the one telling people that their wolfdogs
are nothing but dogs. I don't need to prove myself to anyone. You are the
self-proclaimed expert. I am smart enough to look before I purchase and
research the animal before I bring it into a family with 4 children. I am
not an expert, nor have I claimed to be. I do know my animal and I know
enough about wolfdogs to know that I have one. I'm quite sure the rest of
the group passed kindergarten as well. Maybe you should stop trying to be the
ring leader and just talk about your animals. If you are so hell bent on
proving to us what we have are mutts, don't expect to make any friends. You
slammed this guy Steve in alt.wolves as well. Where do you get off? Why are
you such a downer? That was his first post, and probably his last. I would
like to dicuss his animals with him and I'm sure he would have loved this
group. Because of your attitude, you may have caused the group to lose a new
INFORMED member. Mary
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MJON...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
She looks a lot like the wolfdogs in the photos of the books I have
read and has more wolf characteristics that I can shake a stick at. However,
this is all falling on deaf ears. YOU know who has the ONLY wolfdogs and it
seems to be YOU. I have reread some of your previous posts and you have done
nothing but debate the companions/owners about weather or not they actually
do have a wolfdog. I don't care how much experience you have with the
animals. YOU ARE WRONG. When they nominate you the world's formost expert on
wolfdogs, I'll respect your opinion. As of right now, you seem more to be
the type of person who likes to be the 'know-it-all' and make everyone else
feel like a novice. I can't respect that. You don't have the knowledge or
understanding of our animals and cannot conclude anything except that they
are a type of dog. If you would care to come and visit my wolfdog, spend
about two weeks with her, look her over, watch her, learn her habits and
behavior, you are more than welcome. After that time, I MAY or MAY NOT take
your word for it. As of right now, you are just words on a screen and don't
have any idea what Shailee is or is not.
>
> Mary
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Again, whatever.
Mary
That is what we call a crop out gean in horses, and it can happen in dogs as
well. Things like that can hapen any time you start crossing types of dogs or
wolves, and any other type of mamales.
Marie
ThunderWolf
tammy parker wrote in message
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I have read your posts, tammy, and kept silent until now, but you are
cruel to put your animals through so much pain in death and let it
happen over and over again.You should be heartbroken, but you should
also be wise and never let it happen the first time by containg your
animals.
tammy parker wrote:
>
> Mary the pictures are being mailed to Greg and Marie I do not have a
> scanner to post them, H.B. was hit and killed bye a truck that wasnt
> Paying attention when he flew down my road, We have lost alot of animals
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wolf...@webtv.net (tammy parker) wrote:
> Mary the pictures are being mailed to Greg and Marie I do not have a
> scanner to post them, H.B. was hit and killed bye a truck that wasnt
> Paying attention when he flew down my road, We have lost alot of animals
> on the road we live on, its very heart breaking
>
>
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> time! I gnore my husbands comments too! To him a pregnant woman and the wolf
> family is pretty!
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wolf...@webtv.net (tammy parker) wrote:
> Sorry never had a breeder sell me my animals thank you paid not a dime
>
>
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This is WRONG! In your life, you have never lost an animal by being hit by a
car? If not, I'd say that YOU were definately in the minority. Please write a
book. You know so much about everthing. Please share with the world how to
NEVER have an animal get hit by a car. And don't post anything stupid like,
how you are so responsible and have complete control over everything that
happens to your amimals. If you think you can always control everything, you
need psychological help. ACCIDENTS HAPPEN. Get off that high horse and
remember that you are talking to a real person, not just a screen. You are
being very cruel. Mary
> It is never you, is it Tammy? Always blame someone else for your stupidity.
> What was HB doing out on the road??? Do you know who is even more stupid
> than you? The breeder that sold you your animals!
>
> In article <15056-35...@newsd-112.bryant.webtv.net>,
> wolf...@webtv.net (tammy parker) wrote:
> > Mary the pictures are being mailed to Greg and Marie I do not have a
> > scanner to post them, H.B. was hit and killed bye a truck that wasnt
> > Paying attention when he flew down my road, We have lost alot of animals
> > on the road we live on, its very heart breaking
> >
> >
>
In article <6oeghb$9g1$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
Excuse me but the pounds do charge for the animals! 50-100 dollars for
the most part.
Tony
****Walks with Wolves****
Tammy
OK, now given the fact that the same thing did happen to you. How would you
feel if your wd died? How would you feel if a person you don't even know
jumped your case and told you that you were stupid and irresposible for
letting your animal get killed? Guilt or no, you would lash out in pain. That
someone would dare tell you that it was your fault the pet was killed, would
be unbarable. Accidents do happen. I'm sure the gate is double and triple
checked now. My point was that it was very unkind and thoughtless for Tammy
to be slammed when she was sharing a very sad story with the group. We all
learn from the mistakes we make and do our best to make sure that those we
love are kept safe. A little understanding would be nice. Mary
> Actually, 8 years ago the same thing happened to my male Malamute I had.
> He got hit by a van and survived, just a little sore. I was very thankful
> he was not killed. The driver of the van never even stopped. HOWEVER, THAT WAS
> ALL MY FAULT. NO ONE ELSE IS TO BLAME BUT ME. I AM responsible for my
> animals, no one else is! That will NEVER happen again because I now have
> double gates on my pens!
>
> In article <6oeghb$9g1$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> MJON...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > This is WRONG! In your life, you have never lost an animal by being hit by a
> > car? If not, I'd say that YOU were definately in the minority. Please write a
> > book. You know so much about everthing. Please share with the world how to
> > NEVER have an animal get hit by a car. And don't post anything stupid like,
> > how you are so responsible and have complete control over everything that
> > happens to your amimals. If you think you can always control everything, you
> > need psychological help. ACCIDENTS HAPPEN. Get off that high horse and
> > remember that you are talking to a real person, not just a screen. You are
> > being very cruel. Mary
> >
> > > It is never you, is it Tammy? Always blame someone else for your stupidity.
> > > What was HB doing out on the road??? Do you know who is even more stupid
> > > than you? The breeder that sold you your animals!
> > >
> > > In article <15056-35...@newsd-112.bryant.webtv.net>,
> > > wolf...@webtv.net (tammy parker) wrote:
> > > > Mary the pictures are being mailed to Greg and Marie I do not have a
> > > > scanner to post them, H.B. was hit and killed bye a truck that wasnt
> > > > Paying attention when he flew down my road, We have lost alot of animals
> > > > on the road we live on, its very heart breaking
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
****Walks with Wolves****
Tammy
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Nothing bothers me more than people who refuse to admit responsibility.
When your cat gets run over, are you going to blame the driver? If its in
the middle of the night and a car is traveling 50mph on your country
road, do you think he'll have enough time to slam on the brakes before he
hits your cat? Yes, its cruel to chain a cat, however, what is more cruel
is to let it die a traumatic death like that. Perhaps a better solution
than chaining your cat might be to just keep it inside?
>
>
I understand what your point is. I think, though, that Tammy was talking
about her chickens.Chickens can be very hard to keep penned up. They can get
around things and jump fences if they really wanted to. The wd was what she
was posting about. I have lost two cats to cars. I don't live on a farm. It
is hard to confine a pet when it doesn't want to be confined. As hard as you
try, sometimes they just get away from you. I don't think that 'stupid' is a
fair word to use in your case either. Unaware would be a better choice. If
you don't know it, you can't do it. If you haven't been informed or had it
happen, you don't have the knowledge to avoid it. I don't think that you,
Jupiter, or Tammy were stupid. I think we all learned from what happened and
will know better next time. Mary
I was irresponsible 19 years ago when I never thought a WD pup I loved
> so much would run under the wheels of my van and was killed. I learned a
> very dear lesson and never got over it. I was stupid but wised up that
> moment. Now if it happened once and I became responsible after that,
> should it happen again and again and again? Heck NO!!!! AS one put it
> that "many" animals of hers was killed on her road. If one cared for
> their animals and were to correct this irresponsibility the first time,
> it would not happen again.Instead the irresponsibility allowed many
> animals to die. IF it is to hurt someone's feelings more for being this
> way, then so be it.
>
> MJON...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > In article <6ogg3i$p9d$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
Nothing like adding insult to injury. Tammy seems to be doing the best that
she can. Furthermore she has suffered more than you will know, also as much
as it was traumatic for HB, he has gone on to his next assignment, whereas
Tammy has to live with his loss EVERY day.
You Dana are a very vindictive person, who, I am SURE is not perfect. None
of us are. We all make mistakes Dana, and we have to live with them. Try
being just a bit more compassionate.
Until then be a good little snake and crawl back under your rock!!!!!!
Camille ThunderWolf & Her Pack
Cats are very independent and free willed animals. It is VERY hard to keep a
cat in the house when it wants out. I had problems with my cats for years.
Finally I got them declawed and neutered at a young age. That seemed to take
the urge to travel away. They knew they had no defense out side and were
content indoors. I know that some think that declawing is cruel, but I didn't
want them to get sick or killed by a car. Oh, well. This thread is getting a
bit worn. I'm sure that none of us want anything to happen to our friends. At
least this thread has heightned some awareness. Mary
But still she contends that it was an accident out of her control. The
point I'm making here is not that she _isn't_ hurt or traumatized by this
incident, but that she feels it was not her fault. From the statements
she made, it seems that she feels that any animals getting out are
accidents. Not so, I say. Why is it my WD has never gotten out? Letsee,
proper containment, good socialization, lots of exercise and interaction.
>
> You Dana are a very vindictive person, who, I am SURE is not perfect. None
> of us are. We all make mistakes Dana, and we have to live with them. Try
> being just a bit more compassionate.
I'm sorry if I come across as not feeling for her loss, I would just like
to underscore the point of my post again -- the dog getting out and
getting killed is someone's fault, and proper analysis of the situation
would be to figure out what happened, why it happened, and what can be
done to prevent it. Saying 1) the dog can unlatch the gate if not locked
2) I left it unlocked 3) dog gets out and gets killed 4) it was a freak
accident -- this scenario just doesn't jive with me. Its Tammy's
insistence that she is not to blame that rankles me.
>
> Until then be a good little snake and crawl back under your rock!!!!!!
>
And I have to say to that, petty emotional outlashings don't make what
you have to say more valid.
> Camille ThunderWolf & Her Pack
>
Dana
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Tammy
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