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Doctress Neutopia

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Dec 13, 1994, 12:04:51 PM12/13/94
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Dear Editors of Wired,

As you know my name appeared in your December magazine in the
net.surfing section as being a net.kook. I don't know whether nor
not to think this is honor or if it is simple another way people
are trying to discredit my ideas. Is it really kooky to want to
end sexism, racism, classism, and the horror of war? Is it kooky
to believe the real purpose of the Internet is to create a global
love movement?

If it is, then kooks are to be admired. Believe me, I am not
the only one. There are thousands of kooks living now and who have
lived in the past who are striving to end slavery. The "kook"
revolution shall overcome and when it finally does, the insanity
which starts wars, lets children starve to death, forces people to
ruin their lives by working in stagnating wage slavery jobs and
through their labor has built a society where only the rich profit,
will cease to exist. I ask the editors to take my kookiness
seriously. Send a Wired reporter to report on the Vision of
Doctress Neutopia. Give this prophetess of True Love a chance to
speak about the mysteries and power of Cyborgasms in your magazine!

In the Nov 28th Newsweek, the cover story was "The Search for
the Sacred" said that I had started an Internet religion, but the
article _did not_ explain my thealogy and what kind of cyberculture
would evolve from the Gaia Religion. It has been written that the
kooks of one era are the hera's and hero's of the next. Please,
give me a change to explain myself so that a new era can be born.


Most earnestly,
Doctress Neutopia
aka Libby Hubbard Ed.D

Doctress Neutopia

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Dec 15, 1994, 9:31:07 AM12/15/94
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Doctress Neutopia (neut...@titan.ucs.umass.edu) wrote:


Do the Editors of Wired read the alt.wired newsgroup?
If not, where do I send a copy of the letter to the editors?

neut...@external.umass.edu

Karl Geiger

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Dec 15, 1994, 11:20:26 AM12/15/94
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In article <3cpjvb$5...@nic.umass.edu> neut...@titan.ucs.umass.edu

(Doctress Neutopia) writes:
>
>Do the Editors of Wired read the alt.wired newsgroup?
>If not, where do I send a copy of the letter to the editors?
>
>neut...@external.umass.edu

Heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee...they're in for it
now. _Wired_ addresses from _Wired_ 2.12 (December 1994):

Subscriptions: subscr...@wired.com
Rants & Raves: ra...@wired.com
Editorial Guidelines: guide...@wired.com
Editorial Correspondence: edi...@wired.com
Net Surf Contributions: su...@wired.com
Wired Ware (T-shirts, etc): wa...@wired.com
Advertising sales: adver...@wired.com
General Questions: in...@wired.com
E-mail server: info...@wired.com


Feeling Puckish,

:Karl "Scatman" Chief MTN Sanitation Engineer


Joseph Max.555

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Dec 15, 1994, 2:26:39 PM12/15/94
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It is uncanny that the University of Massachusetts could grant a
Doctorate in Education to a woman who apparently cannot spell correctly
or write a coherent English sentence.

For the sake of the reputation of the above mentioned institute of higher
learning, I hope that this is a merely a fluke.

I would actually love to see the editors of Wired grant you an interview.
It would likely be hilarious


- J:.M:.555

arnold v. lesikar

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Dec 15, 1994, 10:10:17 PM12/15/94
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neut...@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Doctress Neutopia) prophesied:

>
>
> Dear Editors of Wired,
>
> As you know my name appeared in your December magazine in the
> net.surfing section as being a net.kook. I don't know whether nor
> not to think this is honor or if it is simple another way people
> are trying to discredit my ideas. Is it really kooky to want to
> end sexism, racism, classism, and the horror of war? Is it kooky
> to believe the real purpose of the Internet is to create a global
> love movement?

Discredit? Lessee, wouldn't they have to credit them first?

>
> If it is, then kooks are to be admired. Believe me, I am not
> the only one. There are thousands of kooks living now and who have
> lived in the past who are striving to end slavery. The "kook"
> revolution shall overcome and when it finally does, the insanity
> which starts wars, lets children starve to death, forces people to
> ruin their lives by working in stagnating wage slavery jobs and
> through their labor has built a society where only the rich profit,
> will cease to exist. I ask the editors to take my kookiness
> seriously. Send a Wired reporter to report on the Vision of
> Doctress Neutopia. Give this prophetess of True Love a chance to
> speak about the mysteries and power of Cyborgasms in your magazine!

Hallelujah! Amen sister! Libby talking about sanity seems like
Epimenides talking about lying.

>
> In the Nov 28th Newsweek, the cover story was "The Search for
> the Sacred" said that I had started an Internet religion, but the
> article _did not_ explain my thealogy and what kind of cyberculture

Sure to create a theology, one would have to be able to spell
it first...

> would evolve from the Gaia Religion. It has been written that the
> kooks of one era are the hera's and hero's of the next. Please,
> give me a change to explain myself so that a new era can be born.

The hera's? Hera? Now *there's* a word by Zeus! No doubt the
apostrophe in the plural of "hero" denotes a missing "e"...
Before the Lovolution comes the spellolution to free us all
from the alphabetocracy and its orthographical tyranny!


>
>
> Most earnestly,
> Doctress Neutopia
> aka Libby Hubbard Ed.D
>

Yeppers. The new newsreader works.
This is only a test.
This is not a real followup.
If this had been a real followup, it would have been posted to a
real newsgroup.

arn
*This is not a real sig*

Peter Gruhn

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Dec 19, 1994, 3:34:00 PM12/19/94
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> are trying to discredit my ideas. Is it really kooky to want to
> end sexism, racism, classism, and the horror of war?

No.

> Is it kooky
> to believe the real purpose of the Internet is to create a global
> love movement?

Probably.

But WIRED didn't say any of the above.

> If it is, then kooks are to be admired. Believe me, I am not

But it isn't, so to heck with 'em.


[deleted whole big thing that assumes first above question to be
answered in the positive]

> Send a Wired reporter to report on the Vision of
> Doctress Neutopia.

That'd be less interesting than the Kibo spot. But then, I've pretty
much given up on the rag. Primarilly for their coverage of kooks and
other dullards.

> Give this prophetess of True Love a chance to

"Prophetess". That would imply that you are actually saying what the
future will hold. I could have sworn that you were trying to create this
future in spite of the world's best efforts to the contrary. Many
prophets have dreams, but none are dreamers.

> speak about the mysteries and power of Cyborgasms in your magazine!

Right Don!

AVL> Hallelujah! Amen sister! Libby talking about sanity seems like

Ah, come on. She seems sane.

> article _did not_ explain my thealogy and what kind of cyberculture

Probably because they realized that nobody would give much of a hoot.
Just the fact that the "internet" is a wild and kooky place is enough
for the masses. They know what they want to show, and being your
soapbox is not the ticket.

Sounds like the writers at newsweek don't really know much about
religion.

AVL> Sure to create a theology, one would have to be able to spell

Nah, that ain't true and you know it.

> kooks of one era are the hera's and hero's of the next. Please,

And the heroin of one era is the smack of another.

> give me a change to explain myself so that a new era can be born.

> aka Libby Hubbard Ed.D
^

That is really the stunning part of the whole thing.

... Boku wa hon desu.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

Peter Gruhn

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Dec 19, 1994, 3:37:00 PM12/19/94
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: > article _did not_ explain my thealogy and what kind of cyberculture

DN> Thea means Goddess...thealogy means study of the Goddess.

So, you are saying that you have a 'study of the Goddess'. And that
Newsweek should explain your study? "She reads these books and thinks
stuff and writes papers."

If you only study the one Goddess, you are limiting yourself in terms of
scope in a big way. Unless you are a savage revisionist.

Nathan Mehl

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Dec 19, 1994, 10:42:03 PM12/19/94
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Joseph Max.555 (m...@slip-1.slip.net) wrote:
: It is uncanny that the University of Massachusetts could grant a
: Doctorate in Education to a woman who apparently cannot spell correctly
: or write a coherent English sentence.

Uncanny? Obviously, a man who has never met many UMass grads...

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Wendell Minnick

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Dec 27, 1994, 4:10:57 AM12/27/94
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Doctress Neutopia <neut...@titan.ucs.umass.edu> writes:

> In the Nov 28th Newsweek, the cover story was "The Search for
> the Sacred" said that I had started an Internet religion, but the

Is there a relationship to your activities in a cult group called
the Finders, and your Internet religion. Also, since you are active in the
Finders, can we assume that your newsgroup (alt.society.neutopia) is really
an extension of the Finders? A type of front to screen potential members?



> Doctress Neutopia. Give this prophetess of True Love a chance to
> speak about the mysteries and power of Cyborgasms in your magazine!

"True Love?" "Cyborgasms?" What happened to the child molesting
charges leveled against members of the Finders in Florida? As a Finder you
must have an opinion?

Doctress Neutopia

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Dec 28, 1994, 12:59:52 PM12/28/94
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Wendell Minnick (wmin...@delphi.com) wrote:

Wendell, I am not a member of the Finders. The way I know anything
about them is through a man who lives there named Ted Reiss
(tedr...@cais.cais.com)

Ted wanted me to work with him to overthrow the main man in control
named Petty. He thought we could overthrow him, and then set up a
community based on his Xville. Ted's vision is still a capitalist
vision which is why I was not interested in following his plans.
He wanted me to make promises that I didn't want to make. He said he
loved my ideas, but later I found out that he had no interest in my
Neutopian philosophy. In fact, after I refused to have a sexual
relationship with him, he said that what he really felt was that I was
a mediocre scholar and that my dissertation, GAIA, THE PLANETARY
RELIGION: THE SACRED MARRIAGE OF ART AND SCIENCE wasn't even worth
reading.

However, during our courtship, he promised me both publically and
personally that he would work with me to help midwife my vision.
He set up an archive of my work and letters at his Xville
web site, http://xville.com/xville/ We had planned to work together
to scan in images I have collected about Neutopian thought and the New
Solar Powered Jerusalem.

But then when I told him that I felt we had different political points
of view, and that his vision was not going to lead us into a new epoch
of love between the sexes, he started playing power trips on me.
Recently he has said that he was going to delete my part of the Xville
archives. I don't know if he has do it our not. Ted was having money
problems so he said that he couldn't afford an archive space any more.
Anyway, I don't think that money was the entire reason. Domination
over my Neutopian philosophy was certainly one of the main reasons for
Ted's lack of understanding about my role in the global
transformation.

The point is that Ted and I had different political philosophies so
there was no way that I could have a loving relationship with a man
who was putting me down. He didn't want to listen to my wisdom and he
even told me that he didn't respect my intelligence. Hence, Ted could
not acknowledge me as a prophetess. But how could he? He doesn't
even believe in the Goddess!

He admits that he is machiavellian and is proud of it. He says that I
am politically stupid because I don't want to play the political
games of what he calls "the real world." I am just very lucky
that I was not seduced by Ted. He is a man who I feel is very much
into to the patriarchal power game which *is* the problem of the
world. Several times when I was expressing my point of view, Ted was
on the verge of violent behavior.

This happened this past summer. Now, Ted seems to be living there under
Petty's rulership with no problem. Please write Ted for more
information. If I can be of any other help please write me.
neut...@external.umass.edu

Ted Reiss

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Dec 29, 1994, 2:37:58 AM12/29/94
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On 28 Dec 1994, Doctress Neutopia wrote:

> Wendell Minnick (wmin...@delphi.com) wrote:
>
> Wendell, I am not a member of the Finders. The way I know anything
> about them is through a man who lives there named Ted Reiss
> (tedr...@cais.cais.com)
>
> Ted wanted me to work with him to overthrow the main man in control
> named Petty. He thought we could overthrow him, and then set up a
> community based on his Xville.

[juicy part deleted]

> This happened this past summer. Now, Ted seems to be living there under
> Petty's rulership with no problem. Please write Ted for more
> information. If I can be of any other help please write me.
> neut...@external.umass.edu

I challenge you to say that to my face, in front of Mr. Pettie and the
Finders.

Just before we met in RL, I asked you which would take priority for
you in case they conflicted: the truth, or your belief system. You
said "The Truth", capitalized just like that. By now I know your
definition of "The Truth". To you, Doctress, "The Truth" means
whatever you happen to believe.

Please let me know how soon you can come to DC. The event will be
videotaped. We will sell a limited edition of 30 color tapes, and a
larger number of black and whites. We expect to sell the 30 color
ones for $100 each. What to do with the money will be one of the
topics to be discussed at the meeting.

This will also serve as the final shootout between Xville and
Neutopia.

By the way, what happened to Geertjan?

-- Ted --
http://xville.com/xville/

Linden Lindy Sisk

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Dec 29, 1994, 8:41:12 AM12/29/94
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<rantings about the "final shootout" between "xville" and DN deleted>

I don't know how these folks can even walk about, carrying these huge egos.

There are quite enough problems in the world for all of us to deal with.
Ted and Libby probably ought to deal with their own before they profess to
advise the rest of the world on how to deal with the others.

--
Lindy Sisk li...@shell.portal.com
The Internet Crocodile
Eater of Souls
"In CyberSpace, no one can hear you scream." (SM)

Jesse Garon

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Dec 30, 1994, 1:24:53 AM12/30/94
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Ted Reiss <tedr...@xville.com> wrote:

> I challenge [Libby] to say that to my face, in front of Mr. Pettie and the

> Finders.

> Just before we met in RL, I asked you which would take priority for
> you in case they conflicted: the truth, or your belief system. You
> said "The Truth", capitalized just like that. By now I know your
> definition of "The Truth". To you, Doctress, "The Truth" means
> whatever you happen to believe.

> Please let me know how soon you can come to DC. The event will be
> videotaped. We will sell a limited edition of 30 color tapes, and a
> larger number of black and whites. We expect to sell the 30 color
> ones for $100 each. What to do with the money will be one of the
> topics to be discussed at the meeting.

I regret to inform you, Ted, that as it is the Monster Truck Neutopians
who have pretty much kept Libby from vanishing into complete cultural
oblivion months ago, by keeping her flaky reputation alive, the Monster
Truck Neutopians DEMAND a 10% cut of the revenue from any staged conflict
which involves one Libby "Doctress Neutopia" Hubbard, which we will use
to buy beer and meat for a massive BBQ.

Actually, we are entitled to 10% of the revenue from ANY event in which
the Doctress takes part, including lectures, personal appearances, art
exhibits, books, books on tape, motion pictures, CD-ROMs, and 1-900
numbers, but we'll get to that as need be.

> This will also serve as the final shootout between Xville and Neutopia.

As a 10% investor in this event, on behalf of the MTNs, I think we
need a new PR man for this incident. Catchy slogans still ain't your
bag, Ted. Sorry.

> By the way, what happened to Geertjan?

Geertjan is a LIAR, that's what happened.

"Jesse Garon" bet Libby filched from the collection plate at Mass.
_________
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the service of revolution http://www.primenet.com/~grifter/
but rather of putting grifter @ p r i m e n e t . c o m
revolution at the service of poetry

Mr. Noise

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Jan 2, 1995, 5:08:23 AM1/2/95
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In article <3e093l$q...@news.primenet.com>,

'Jesse Garon' <gri...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>I regret to inform you, Ted, that as it is the Monster Truck Neutopians
>who have pretty much kept Libby from vanishing into complete cultural
>oblivion months ago, by keeping her flaky reputation alive, the Monster
>Truck Neutopians DEMAND a 10% cut of the revenue from any staged conflict
>which involves one Libby "Doctress Neutopia" Hubbard, which we will use
>to buy beer and meat for a massive BBQ.
>
>Actually, we are entitled to 10% of the revenue from ANY event in which
>the Doctress takes part, including lectures, personal appearances, art
>exhibits, books, books on tape, motion pictures, CD-ROMs, and 1-900
>numbers, but we'll get to that as need be.

Ah... it's so good to see that in my absence Jesse has been looking
out for MTN interests... You're a good man...

But heck, why 10%? I say we deserve at least half: we're funnier.

As for promotion, how about a giant monster truck convoy with nude
portraits of the Doctress painted on 'em? Or does someone who's seen
actual pictures think that's a bad idea? Aw, heck, there's always
"artistic license," right? ;)

(Spelling errors contained in this document are not my fault. It's
not that I'm lazy, just that I'm a victim of society...)


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Jan 2, 1995, 5:55:49 PM1/2/95
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>In article <3e093l$q...@news.primenet.com>,
>'Jesse Garon' <gri...@primenet.com> wrote:
>>
>>I regret to inform you, Ted, that as it is the Monster Truck Neutopians
>>who have pretty much kept Libby from vanishing into complete cultural
>>oblivion months ago, by keeping her flaky reputation alive, the Monster
>>Truck Neutopians DEMAND a 10% cut of the revenue from any staged conflict
>>which involves one Libby "Doctress Neutopia" Hubbard, which we will use
>>to buy beer and meat for a massive BBQ.
>>
>>Actually, we are entitled to 10% of the revenue from ANY event in which
>>the Doctress takes part, including lectures, personal appearances, art
>>exhibits, books, books on tape, motion pictures, CD-ROMs, and 1-900
>>numbers, but we'll get to that as need be.

>Ah... it's so good to see that in my absence Jesse has been looking
>out for MTN interests... You're a good man...

>But heck, why 10%? I say we deserve at least half: we're funnier.

>As for promotion, how about a giant monster truck convoy with nude
>portraits of the Doctress painted on 'em? Or does someone who's seen
>actual pictures think that's a bad idea? Aw, heck, there's always
>"artistic license," right? ;)

Trying to market the nudie pics is unwise, IMNSHO - it might have been a good
idea before November, but these are the days of the new Republican Dawn, and
anything of a prurient nature is liable to bring the wrath of Jesse Helms (not
to mention his White Male Oppressor) down upon us.

Something more tasteful is in order, perhaps - how about a black-velvet
paint-by-number kit based on that photo from Newsweek?

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