New Windows 98/IE6 install goes BANG!
Alex Adams
the old Win98 that came with it and hung it on the LAN. I upgraded from
IE4 to IE6 (SP1) and ran Windows update. Installed all the critical
updates except ActiveX 9 and then went back and Installed the ActiveX 9
patch. I rebooted to get the rest of the updates and when IE6 tried to
open up Microsoft's website, the system rebooted -- no error, no warning
just black screen --> POST....
I've uninstalled IE6, reinstalled it, looked for some way to uninstall
the ActiveX patch (assuming that's what it is), and scoured Google for
answers or even a copy of IE5 to try. Is there a fix for this? I am
alble to use Netscape 7.1 just fine, but I would really like to patch up
this copy of Win98.
Any help?
Thanks.
Alex
JeffG
here:
http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit
Hope this helps you. Best, JG
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Alex Adams
Thanks for the tip Jeff. I uninstalled ver. 6, installed ver. 5 and it
didn't fix it. I disabled all the ActiveX stuff and that didn't fix it
either.
I can load up www.msn.com or www.googl.com, but I can't load
windowsupdate.microsoft.com or even cartoonnetwork.com without the
machine resetting.
I don't know.
Thanks anyway.
Alex
Alex Adams
> IE6.x is a piece of shit !!!!
>
> Never install anything above the highest 5.x version.
>
> I'd reformat and start over. Inastall the default IE 5.x that comes
> with ein98se. Then upgrade to the highest 5.x version they have
> online.
Okay, I ditched IE6 and installed 5.5(sp2). It didn't fix it. I
disabled all the ActiveX stuff and that didn't fix it either. Dumping
the partition and starting over is not out of the question, but I'd
rather fix this one if I can.
I'm a bit flummoxed.
Thanks.
Alex
RedBack
<Alexn...@neetscape.dotnet> wrote :
I find nothing wrong with IE 6 & win98 but if you prefer 5 or 5.5
that's up to you.
This is what I do with my customers systems that have major problems
with IE.
First download "IEradicator" a search with google should find it.
Remove IE completely re boot, then install IE 6 with sp1 (my copy is
from one of those mag CD) or 5 if you prefer that, and it should solve
your problems..it works for me every time :-)
RedBack
anon
> Any help?
> Thanks.
> Alex
The problem could simply be your machine (i.e. too old/slow). I'd
downgrade to win95, or install 98lite "sleek" version, which is win98 with
the win95 shell. All you need are three system files from win95, which I
can email you if you like.
Scarletdown
> In alt.windows98 Alex Adams <AlexN...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>Just reclaimed an old AMD-K6 233MHz machine with 64 MB RAM. I loaded up
>>the old Win98 that came with it and hung it on the LAN. I upgraded from
> The problem could simply be your machine (i.e. too old/slow). I'd
> downgrade to win95, or install 98lite "sleek" version, which is win98 with
> the win95 shell. All you need are three system files from win95, which I
> can email you if you like.
A 233 with 64MB is perfectly suitable for Windows-98. In fact, for a
couple years, I was running 98 on a Pentium-166 with 64MB RAM (then
later a P200 with 64 and eventually 96MB) with no problems.
However, I do second the recommendation for running 98-Lite. Even on my
current workstation (an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe with an Athlon 2500 Barton and
512MB RAM), I went ahead and installed 98-Lite on her Windows side. Not
only does it increase performance (speedwise), it also makes 98 more
stable. After IE was eradicated, crashes were fewer and far between.
-- Scarletdown
(Spamfoil in place. Lift MYTAILFEATHERS to reply via email.)
AlanS
"RedBack" <red...@spider.net> wrote in message
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Why not use a different browser? There are plenty of other ones that are
free. Some people even seem to claim they are better than IE for some
reason. ;o)
If nothing else it should allow you access while sorting out IE.
Alex Adams
> In alt.windows98 Alex Adams <AlexN...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>Just reclaimed an old AMD-K6 233MHz machine with 64 MB RAM. I loaded up
>>the old Win98 that came with it and hung it on the LAN. I upgraded from
>>IE4 to IE6 (SP1) and ran Windows update. Installed all the critical
>>updates except ActiveX 9 and then went back and Installed the ActiveX 9
>>patch. I rebooted to get the rest of the updates and when IE6 tried to
>>open up Microsoft's website, the system rebooted -- no error, no warning
>>just black screen --> POST....
>
>
>>I've uninstalled IE6, reinstalled it, looked for some way to uninstall
>>the ActiveX patch (assuming that's what it is), and scoured Google for
>>answers or even a copy of IE5 to try. Is there a fix for this? I am
>>alble to use Netscape 7.1 just fine, but I would really like to patch up
>>this copy of Win98.
>
>
>>Any help?
>
>
> downgrade to win95, or install 98lite "sleek" version, which is win98 with
> the win95 shell. All you need are three system files from win95, which I
> can email you if you like.
Nah, the machine I salvaged the second HD and monitor from was a Dell
P100 that ran Win98 slowly but fine.
Something happened after I installed a patch -- most likely the ActiveX
patch since I couldn't access the update site after I installed that one.
I'm thinking reinstall over the existing setup.
Alex
Alex Adams
I agree that the machine is spec'd okay. I don't know anything about
98-lite, but I think I've downloaded a demo version. I will install it
later, but for now I'm looking at this silly crashing thing.
It didn't happen until I installed that ActiveX patch. I'd like to try
backing that patch out. The only way to do that may be to reinstall
over the existing OS. Then I can play with 98-Lite.
Thanks.
Alex
Alex Adams
the IE crash problem which it fixed. I patched again choosing not to
install IE6 (IE5.5(SP2) is current on the system).
On to other things.
Thanks to everyone for thier input.
Alex
Kanda' Jalen Eirsie
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:06:51 -0700, Alex Adams <Alexn...@neetscape.dotnet> wrote:
>> In alt.windows98 Alex Adams <AlexN...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Just reclaimed an old AMD-K6 233MHz machine with 64 MB RAM. I loaded up
>>>the old Win98 that came with it and hung it on the LAN. I upgraded from
>>>IE4 to IE6 (SP1) and ran Windows update. Installed all the critical
>>>updates except ActiveX 9 and then went back and Installed the ActiveX 9
>>>patch. I rebooted to get the rest of the updates and when IE6 tried to
>>>open up Microsoft's website, the system rebooted -- no error, no warning
>>>just black screen --> POST....
You mean DirectX 9? There is NO way to downgrade a directX installation other than
complete reinstall.
With one possible exception - An old game I have called Rocket Jockey (there may be a
few others) installs DX 3 without asking or any warning! You can then reinstall any
version above 3, however, I can not recommend this - But I did once find it useful....
What version of Win98 are you installing? SE?
Does your MB need drivers? Is it a Via chipset? If it is, then unless you absolutely
need agp 3 support, (GF FX card) don't install anything above 4.35 of the 4in1 drivers.
If you do, then install the 4.35 set first - turbo mode, then install the latest AGP Gart
driver ONLY, then UNinstall it by running the installer again, and selecting ONLY the agp
drivers, tell it to uninstall. This will remove all the latest goober dangles for the
latest MB's and leave bare bones AGP 3.0 support.
Install at highest DX 8.1b and ignore the 9.0b. 9.0 will eat your 64 meg alive and not
even spit out the bones... You could probably live with the v6.1 that win98 installs
itself, since you aren't going to be running any hot latest dx game titles anyway...
Avoid version 7 at all costs...
IE 6.1 should play just fine on your machine. Ignore the MSIE haters... They are more
noise than signal... Besides, they're more often wrong than right...
I have it running sweet on my old AMD-K6 - 350 on a via MB with absolutely NO
problems...
ll
Kanda'
<>SPAM-KILLER<>- If you really want to contact me, then -
kandaje<at>bresnan<dot>net
You figure it out...
Leopold Stokowsky
"anon" <an...@anon.com> wrote in message
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That statement about a too-old too-slow machine is nonsense. I have a
machine with similar specs and 64MB RAM running Win98se2 just fine using
IE6.0.
Suggesting a downgrade to Win95 is even more ridiculous nonsense than first
suggestion!
Leopold Stokowsky
corrupt files?
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