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Zajac

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Aug 16, 2013, 1:04:35 AM8/16/13
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Given that my old PC has a valid sticker for Windows XP Home
on the bottom, that means I have a good license right?

I bought the laptop in about 2005, and I didn't get any installation
disks with the laptop. The hard drive crashed about a year ago, so
I replaced it, and then installed Ubuntu (with Wine).

However, I really need to make it a dual boot laptop. I'll be
using Windows only about 1/3 the time, so the Windows XP that was
originally on there would be just fine. I don't need Windows 8.

The only problem is that I don't have a Windows XP Home disc.
But, I have a perfectly valid unused Windows XP license key.

Given that the PC is legitimately licensed for Windows XP, is there
a proper way to legitimately obtain a free legitimate XP disk without
having to literally buy WinXP all over again?

p-0''0-h the cat (ES)

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Aug 16, 2013, 2:23:09 AM8/16/13
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How to Replace Lost, Broken, or Missing Microsoft Software or Hardware
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-gb;326246

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Aug 16, 2013, 4:32:04 AM8/16/13
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p-0''0-h the cat (ES) wrote:
>> How to Replace Lost, Broken, or Missing Microsoft Software or HardwareOn Fri, 16 Aug 2013 05:04:35 +0000 (UTC), Zajac <Za...@example.com> wrote:
>
>> Given that my old PC has a valid sticker for Windows XP Home
>> on the bottom, that means I have a good license right?
>>
>> I bought the laptop in about 2005, and I didn't get any installation
>> disks with the laptop. The hard drive crashed about a year ago, so
>> I replaced it, and then installed Ubuntu (with Wine).
>>
>> However, I really need to make it a dual boot laptop. I'll be
>> using Windows only about 1/3 the time, so the Windows XP that was
>> originally on there would be just fine. I don't need Windows 8.
>>
>> The only problem is that I don't have a Windows XP Home disc.
>> But, I have a perfectly valid unused Windows XP license key.
>>
>> Given that the PC is legitimately licensed for Windows XP, is there
>> a proper way to legitimately obtain a free legitimate XP disk without
>> having to literally buy WinXP all over again?
>
> How to Replace Lost, Broken, or Missing Microsoft Software or Hardware
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-gb;326246

Excellent advice! :-)

IIRC when once I used this service (after my XP CD shattered in the CD
drawer of a friend's machine!) the cost of replacement was around £18.00

I considered buying from eBay (there are many available) but in the end
inherited an XP CD from another friend who died.

dadiOH

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Aug 16, 2013, 7:20:17 AM8/16/13
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"Zajac" <Za...@example.com> wrote in message
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You may be able to get it from MS if you can prove your original purchase.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326246

Alternatively, contact the manufacturer and request a CD.


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wasbit

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Aug 16, 2013, 7:38:19 AM8/16/13
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As long as the Cd matches the COA label (Home/Pro, Retail/OEM) then you are
good to go. How or from where you get the Cd doesn't matter.

You will also require the Product Key (serial number) from the COA label.
Don't use one that you have found on the machine as this will probably be
the bulk OEM key.

Also be wary of B/8, 5/6 etc which can be misread. Luckily no capital O
used, just zero.

There are lots of variations eg slipstreeming service packs into a new
installation cd, which have been well documented

Regards
wasbit

p-0''0-h the cat (ES)

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Aug 16, 2013, 7:42:49 AM8/16/13
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Basically if it's an early CD make sure you service pack it /before/ you
go onto the Internet, else you won't own you PC within about five
minutes.

FromTheRafters

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Aug 16, 2013, 8:08:58 AM8/16/13
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I got frustrated and gave up, installed Linux again for a while. My XP restore gave me XP SP1 and while I was easily able to update the browser so I could get to the microsoft update page (windows update deprecated?) to find out that I couldn't get SP3 there but had to get SP2 somewhere else to get SP3 there *last time* - *this time* I get a stupid "Metro" style page that is quite cludgy IMO and seemed not to want me to get my XP back up to SP3. I just wanted to make a fresh new install and keep it updated until the upcoming EOL so I could image it.

So, now I have all of my external drives that I use for data, converted to bootable Linux drives where I can *still* store my data - and dual-booting two more Linux OSes from the laptop's two partitions.

Microsoft spends too much time making things harder to do.

p-0''0-h the cat (ES)

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Aug 16, 2013, 8:26:23 AM8/16/13
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Well to be fair to MS XP is nearly as old as irok...

It's been a while, but I recall downloading the service packs, and not
using Windows update. It's a bigger download overall, or two downloads
as you point out, but service packing using Windows update requires a
pretty fast computer and connection, and a degree of good luck.

FromTheRafters

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Aug 16, 2013, 8:39:58 AM8/16/13
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:26:23 +0100
Just before EOL I will probably reload an image I have of XPSP3 and update that - then clean it up manually and image it.

Keith Nuttle

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Aug 16, 2013, 8:48:01 AM8/16/13
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Have not checked very recently but if you do go to Microsoft website you
can download SP3. Also Microsoft has bundle a bunch of the Updates but
there are many to load to bring your computer up to the current version
of Windows XP. You must access Microsoft updates with a Microsoft browser.

Zajac

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Aug 16, 2013, 11:15:51 AM8/16/13
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:26:23 +0100, p-0''0-h the cat (ES) wrote:

> It's been a while, but I recall downloading the service packs, and not
> using Windows update.

I don't have any problem with SP1a, SP2, and SP3 (nor .NET Framework
3.0, 3.5, and 4.0) simply because I've long ago downloaded the
network installation (full) copies and saved it off to DVD.

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Zajac

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Aug 17, 2013, 6:38:56 AM8/17/13
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On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 00:40:47 +0000, Dustin wrote:

>> The only problem is that I don't have a Windows XP Home disc.
>> But, I have a perfectly valid unused Windows XP license key.
>
> Then google for a valid windows xp home iso.
> If you can't find one in a few days, post back

Thanks Dustin for the kind offer.
It's nice to know the Internet is filled with kind people.
Luckily, I took folks up on calling Dell directly.

I gave Dell my service tag, and they said that I was well
out of even my extended warranty but did I want to purchase
support? I said no, but, that I'd like to purchase the original
WinXP installation disks.

They told me that original disks came with the PC
(I guess I lost them then); and then they took a long
time (like ten minutes) to "look for them".

They said they "found them", and I said I wanted to buy them.
They said that I was a long-time customer (all my laptops
are Dell), and, they're sending me the WinXP disc gratis!

Guess what? They also asked for my phone number so that
they could call me to see if I get them in time. And, more
than that, they asked me to hold while the support guy put
me on the line with the supervisor to see if I was
satisfied.

Wow. I'm impressed. I guess buying a dozen Dells with
extended warranties qualifies me for a free Windows XP
installation media disc every now and then! :)

p-0''0-h the cat (ES)

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Aug 17, 2013, 6:43:08 AM8/17/13
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On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:38:56 +0000 (UTC), Zajac <Za...@example.com>
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Ha Ha. I wonder if you get that kind of service with a Dustin special...

Ant

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Aug 17, 2013, 10:36:58 AM8/17/13
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On 8/16/2013 5:41 PM PT, Dustin typed:

> It would be an oem key. You load it with an oem based iso. And you'll
have
> to activate it most likely, over the phone. No real big deal.

And on the original machines that it was installed on.


>> There are lots of variations eg slipstreeming service packs into a new
>> installation cd, which have been well documented
>
> Better to find one with SP3 already present, tho.

Ditto. I have had problems installing XP SP2 and earlier on machines (HP
Mini netbook IIRC) due to missing disk drivers. SP3 fixed that for those
machines.
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Aug 17, 2013, 12:40:48 PM8/17/13
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Zajac <Za...@example.com> wrote in news:kunjs0$jgp$1...@news.mixmin.net:
Zajac please take care if you run XP supplied by Dustin.

Using the name "Raid "or "Slam", he has written several dangerous viruses.
Talking abou this Irok virus Dustin said..... "For those of you who got
hit by it, I hope you lost everything". He wouldn't help members of his
own family if they got his virus! http://spth.virii.lu/coderz1/raid.html

He wrote in this current thread that his virus Irok.... "still does the
job it was written to do. How neat is that."

What's more, he arranges for people's personal details to be published in
bittorrents and then invites readers to hassle the victim. He tried to do
that to me but failed because I know good techs who can keep him at bay.

Dustin is a malicious nutcase. Some informed observers call him a
psychopath. You have been warned. :(

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Zajac

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Aug 17, 2013, 3:00:06 PM8/17/13
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On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:40:48 +0100, Jax wrote:

> Zajac please take care if you run XP supplied by Dustin.

I'm actually going to install the WinXP that Dell is shipping me,
as kindly suggested by Bob_Villa.

Dell priority support said it should arrive by Tuesday and they'd
call me in the afternoon to make sure that I received the disc.

Even if it doesn't come with the service packs, I've long ago
downloaded SP2 and SP3 full versions so I'll be patched up to
SP3 and Net Framework 4.5 before I even get on the net.

Jax

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Dustin <abugh...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super...@furryfreeware.invalid> wrote in
> news:9u3s09hcii6qs38da...@4ax.com:
> Partially true. Keep the machine behind a firewall when you do go online
> and you can do your updates with minimal risk of harm.

Our current category favorite firewall is Comodo. Try it! :)
http://bearware.info/security.html

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p-0.0-h the cat

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Aug 18, 2013, 3:29:21 AM8/18/13
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On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 03:24:11 +0000 (UTC), Dustin
<abugh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I did, yes. It's a 13 year old program that can still function on a 32bit
>flavor of windows 8. That's neat from a programming POV.

Dusty, Dusty... You're so full of yourself.

My 29 year old Z80 assembler programs will work on Windows 8 [maybe
not the printer driver..] That's pretty neat from a programming POV.

Not down to me OR you though. That's down to the programmers of the
emulators, WoW, and the compatibility layers.

Sorry if that overshadows your 'brilliance'.

Jax

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Dustin <abugh...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Jax wrote:
>>
>> What's more, he arranges for people's personal details to be published
>> in bittorrents and then invites readers to hassle the victim. He tried
>> to do that to me but failed because I know good techs who can keep him
>> at bay.
>
> This isn't true. I don't arrange for anything. Can you prove otherwise.
> I believe you're just trying to slime me here.
>
> I didn't try to do anything to you. You aren't bear bottoms wife, right?
>


Dustin you definitely TRIED..... But you failed to get the right person!
Below is what you published. It's not very nice. You falsely claim
Jacquleine is a RIAA snitcher in order to incite harrassment against her.


<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

"Everyone that has supported us over the years. You know who you are.
We dedicate this small space to an RIAA snitcher/c0kewh0re by the name of
Jax. She thinks it's perfectly okay to publish personal details on other
people and solicit illegal actions from even more people. We felt we'd
give her a taste of her own medicine. Btw, Her husband is the infamous
Bear Bottoms from alt.comp.freeware; a former cocaine drug smuggling
pilot; If you're in need of the white stuff, We suspect her husband might
be able to hook you up. Just give them a call or stop by. Tell them, HHI
sent you."

Jacqueline T Bottoms
***** PERSONAL DETAILS WITHHELD ******

http://pirateproxy.se/torrent/8304666/Rage_Against_The_Machine-
The_Battle_Of_Los_Angeles-(Retail)-1999

http://goo.gl/TfVbWA

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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emily

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Aug 18, 2013, 8:57:32 AM8/18/13
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Dustin used his keyboard to write :
> Jax <remove.bea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:XnsA21FE66241E30JAX@
> 127.0.0.1:
>

>> Our current category favorite firewall is Comodo. Try it! :)
>> http://bearware.info/security.html
>
> I should have known Meg would respond. I'll be specific. I meant a hardware
> firewall.

*Meg* fits Jax so aptly!
Thanks for the laugh, Dustin.


Jax

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emily <em...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote......

Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware,microsoft.public.windowsxp,alt.windows-xp
Followup-To: alt.politics.scorched-earth

----------------

You're busted, troll!

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p-0.0-h the cat

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Jax

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Dustin <abugh...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> "p-0.0-h the cat" <supe...@poohland.invalid> wrote in
> news:6nk119ls5018ne73c...@4ax.com:
> So.. can either of you prove I actually published that? I'll wait. :)

Dustin.... maybe you asked someone else to press the Send key but it was
done at your request. Think about it! :)

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p-0.0-h the cat

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:05:09 +0000 (UTC), Dustin
<abugh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>"p-0.0-h the cat" <supe...@poohland.invalid> wrote in
>news:hes0191j0mj4p737k...@4ax.com:
>
>> My 29 year old Z80 assembler programs will work on Windows 8 [maybe
>> not the printer driver..] That's pretty neat from a programming POV.
>
>That's nice. Unlike you tho, I can likely explain the source code if you ever
>did provide it.
>
>> Sorry if that overshadows your 'brilliance'.
>
>*yawn* jealous of my accomplishments eh? It's okay. I don't mind.

Wow, nice bit of selective quoting there Dusty, everyone can see who's
really trolling who now. Wazzup, lost /another/ argument hotshot.
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On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 01:51:44 +0000 (UTC), Dustin
<abugh...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snipped drivel>
>
>You tried to bait me with some silly nonsense about assembler not being
>pure as I posted it because I relied on microcode/firmware (whatever you
>wish to refer to it as) and didn't create that code myself. That's really
>reaching there pooh.
>
>Then you tried to bait me with "guessing" that xor is used in the cipher
>algorithm. That's ALL you guessed correctly about the crypto being used,
>btw. And that's ONLY specifically the crypto irok itself performs. The
>crypto irok has on itself is NOT a simple xor cipher. And you damn sure
>didn't guess anything about that. I had to tell you it's armored. Despite
>the urls describing it also telling you it is. I wouldn't even say it's a
>guess since I told you encryption is used and xor is a common function.
>
>In this case, Irok is indeed using it as a math function and not a logical
>operation.

Ha Ha Ha..

>NO different than if I'd used add/sub/divide/multi instead of
>xor. Except that I'd have to write additional code to reverse the process;
>which isn't something I wanted to do for this. Virus writing is different
>than application writing. You don't want to use more bytes than you need.

Dusty, you're talking to someone who squeezed a fifty levels game into
a Sinclair Spectrum. Our generation and those before us 'wrote' the
book on not using more 'bits' than we needed to....


>You couldn't tell me how many bytes consisted of a header or what the
>header itself even was. You cited a url with bad references to this header
>and a clear lack of understanding by it's author concerning viruses and
>associated terminology. It looks like some computer science dropout wrote
>it, Pooh.
>
>The only thing you've demonstrated skill in so far is the ability to troll
>me. By baiting me into technical discussions that you can't hold your own
>in.

More verbiage. Try countering my arguments Dusty.

Jax

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Dustin <abugh...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> "p-0.0-h the cat" <supe...@poohland.invalid> wrote in
> news:t16219lr6givhje9k...@4ax.com:
> Selective quoting? I left what I choose to respond too. Is that what you
> have an issue with, Pooh?
>
> In all actuality, poohskie, I haven't lost any arguments with you so
> far. You told me SMART was better if corp did it, as they have quality
> control standards I couldn't even hope to touch. It isn't. You've since
> posted a url which supports MY position, not yours. "hotshot" indeed.
>
> You claimed dell/hp make better computers than what I could build. They
> don't. Btw, I serviced a Dell yesterday and even took pics in case I had
> to "prove" it. I found NO FCC/UL sticker anywhere on that machine. It's
> an inspiron tower with a bestec power supply; rated for 300watts.
> *laugh*. the 12volt rail is bad; it's pushing just a hair under 7volts.
>
> it's got a western digital BLUE drive; I was impressed with that, even
> if it's one of the lesser rated ones. The power supply is your typical
> low end powered junk, tho. Just enough to run her, and barely that.
>
> The tower was made in china and isn't too flimsy, but isn't all that
> great either. Like I said, I took pics of her this time to show you. [g]
>
> It has a microATX mainboard inside; an off brand one at that. It's NOT a
> Dell mainboard. Intel CPU, and sata II ports. But again, it's a rather
> generic board. hehehe.. QC eh?
>
> Then you have that HP I worked on with bad restore disc creation
> software right out of the gate. I will get you the url to that. I'm
> going to be seeing it's owner in a few days to pickup some audio discs.
>
> Let's see.. Then we went to the licensing discussion. I've yet to find
> anything on google that has an example of someone being punished for not
> turning in his machine to be fcc/ul licensed. Here's my guess on that:
>
> Once you build the machine and turn it in, you have to keep the same
> components and everything else the same to keep that certification.
> Right? We can agree that you can't go making changes and still claim
> certification can't we?
>
> Well, If your a small oem system builder, like myself, Just how often do
> you suppose we keep the same identical configuration before changes are
> made? We have to continue keeping up with changes in the industry, We
> have to offer systems which are current.
>
> That means, the system configurations are subject to change. They might
> come one way for this price, but for an additional charge, we'll include
> more ram, bigger HD, change out optical drives for one with more
> features. Perhaps add a secondary optical drive, maybe upgrade the video
> card.
>
> It's upto the customer how badass they want it to be. We have base
> models, then "deluxe" models. once we're changing out hardware that was
> previously "fcc/ul" certified, wouldn't that violate our certification
> for that "model"? I'm thinking this would.
>
> 3 or even 6 months from now, the base model might have nearly the same
> stock features as the deluxe one did, due to price changes. It might
> have a video card from Nvidia as opposed to ATI this time around. A
> better mainboard with a nicer chipset might be available and would be in
> use. This would technically make it a far different machine than the one
> I assembled some months back. I couldn't very well stick the same "fcc"
> sticker on the back of it, now could I?
>
> In 3-6 months, I'd repeat this process. That's alot of licensing
> machines that are only built new in that configuration for a few months
> before they have more uptodate components. The only thing that might
> remain the same for a little while is the cpu's themselves. With the
> option of swapping it out for the latest and greatest, pending the
> mainboard can support it.
>
> So, wouldn't it be far less of a headache for you to just use fcc/ul
> licensed products and build the machine from those components in the
> first place? Seems like it would.
>
> Probably why Dell didn't fcc/ul this machine I worked on. They're always
> discontinuing them, and incrementally releasing new "versions" of the
> same base model. That would be costly to re-certify them all.
>
> Then we had the virus discussion. That was fun. You never demonstrated
> any understanding of how a prepender functions. You cited a url that has
> several problems, some dealing specifically with it's explanation of a
> prepender and how it functions.
>
> You tried to bait me with some silly nonsense about assembler not being
> pure as I posted it because I relied on microcode/firmware (whatever you
> wish to refer to it as) and didn't create that code myself. That's
> really reaching there pooh.
>
> Then you tried to bait me with "guessing" that xor is used in the cipher
> algorithm. That's ALL you guessed correctly about the crypto being used,
> btw. And that's ONLY specifically the crypto irok itself performs. The
> crypto irok has on itself is NOT a simple xor cipher. And you damn sure
> didn't guess anything about that. I had to tell you it's armored.
> Despite the urls describing it also telling you it is. I wouldn't even
> say it's a guess since I told you encryption is used and xor is a common
> function.
>
> In this case, Irok is indeed using it as a math function and not a
> logical operation. NO different than if I'd used add/sub/divide/multi
> instead of xor. Except that I'd have to write additional code to
> reverse the process; which isn't something I wanted to do for this.
> Virus writing is different than application writing. You don't want to
> use more bytes than you need.
>
> You couldn't tell me how many bytes consisted of a header or what the
> header itself even was. You cited a url with bad references to this
> header and a clear lack of understanding by it's author concerning
> viruses and associated terminology. It looks like some computer science
> dropout wrote it, Pooh.
>
> The only thing you've demonstrated skill in so far is the ability to
> troll me. By baiting me into technical discussions that you can't hold
> your own in.

Dustin that must be the Word Wall Of The Month. You wrote 1,031 words or
4,712 characters! Are you posting while taking stimulants? :)

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