Best & Worst Episodes Ever
Timothy Barbeisch
I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
Trek movie. Thanks.
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Philip Blaiklock
Timothy Barbeisch wrote:
>
> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
> Trek movie. Thanks.
I would say that the best TOS episode would be "Doomesday Machine", and the
tribbles episode second. The worst....hmmm...Id have to think about that.
The best TNG by far is seventh season's Parallels......that episode was
relentless and full of surprises.....some other classic TNG's are "Sarek", "Best of both
Worlds", "remember me", and the sixth season one with Picard being tortured by the
cardassians..."chain of Command" The worst TNG was probably a tie between first seasons
"Skin of evil" and second season's "up the long ladder"
DS9....hmm......the best episode Ive seen is last year's where Kira is trapped
in that big rock and ODO cant get her out.
VOY.....best one Ive seen so far was last season with the Wormhole that they
manage to beam that Romulan through; the worst has got to be this years when the Doctor
falls in love with that Vedian Hologram.
Movies....best Star Trek IV by a hair over ST II; the worst it without a doubt
Star Trek V.
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Philip Blaiklock <pblai...@washington.xtn.net> wrote:
>Timothy Barbeisch wrote:
>>
>> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
>> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
>> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
>> Trek movie. Thanks.
> I would say that the best TOS episode would be "Doomesday Machine", and the
>tribbles episode second. The worst....hmmm...Id have to think about that.
No contest: Spock's Brain is by far the worst. Turnabout Intruder is
second.
David Dirgo
Timothy Barbeisch (bied...@tri-town.net) wrote:
> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
> Trek movie. Thanks.
I had a passing, idle thought. Clearly, the worst episode of TNG was
"Shades of Gray." Does anyone else remember that flashback-episode piece
of feces which ended the second season? Now, is it my imagination, or is
that episode _not_ showing in syndication?
David
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Lee Burwasser
kb6...@earthlink.net (Steve Silverwood) wrote:
>
>No contest: Spock's Brain is by far the worst. Turnabout Intruder is
>second.
>
Agreed, "Spock's Brain" was so bad it was funny, but other episodes were
so bad it *wasn't* funny. Of the _Trek_ classic episodes, I'd put
"Galileo Seven", "Alternative Factor", "Omega Glory" and "And the
Children Shall Lead" below "Spock's Brain." "Turnabout Intruder"
probably belongs in there too, but I've done such a good job of blanking
it out that I shouldn't say. I'm sure not going to watch it again just
to rate it.
--
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*working stiff -- don't blame me for policy*
chris cooksey
It is, I saw it the other day. As for worst episode, my pick goes to Sub
Rosa.
Jet Silverman
Best: All Good Things...
Worst: Sub Rosa, or any episode that featured Dr. Crusher, except for
"The Host". If she weren't in "First Contact", would anyone
notice?
Movies:
Best: ST2
Worst: ST5
jlha...@crosslink.net
In article <4q9kc1$q...@peru.it.earthlink.net>, kb6...@earthlink.net
says...
>
>Philip Blaiklock <pblai...@washington.xtn.net> wrote:
>No contest: Spock's Brain is by far the worst. Turnabout Intruder is
>second.
>
I'd put that vote the other way around. Spock's Brain is at least a
Camp classic, kinda fun, and contains that wonderful line, "Brain and
brain! What - is - BRAIN?!" Turnabout Intruder, however, is such a
gawdawful embarrassment as to be virtually unwatchable.
Joyce
Zepp
In article <4q9nqn$o...@pigeon.creighton.edu>,
ddi...@bluejay.creighton.edu (David Dirgo) wrote:
>Timothy Barbeisch (bied...@tri-town.net) wrote:
>> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
>> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
>> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
>> Trek movie. Thanks.
Well, let's see. Worst episodes TOS: Spock's Brain, And the Children Shall
Lead, The Cloud Minders (Droxine -- Eeewww!) Best episodes TOS: City on the
Edge of Forever, This Side of Paradise, Amok Time.
Best episodes TNG: The Inner Light, Darmok and Jelaad, and the one where
Riker thought he was going nuts doing that play. Worst episodes TNG: Genesis
(ack, puke, gag), Skin of Evil, and the stupid one where Enterprise turns
into some dorky temple and Data changes personalities every 5 minutes.
Best episodes DS9: The Visitor, Life Support, and the one with the Cardassian
who claimed to be the concentration camp director. Worst episodes DS9: gawd,
there's been so many... Pretty much everything dealing with the Dominion.
Best movie: Wrath of Khan, no doubt about it. Voyage home isn't bad, either.
Serach for Spock is ok, if you ignore Shatner chewing on the scenery! Worst
movie: no contest, STV, the one Shatner directed. Ack!! Hairball attack!
Voyager: Dunno, only ever seen the pilot, tho' I like a lot of the Voyager
fanfic...
>I had a passing, idle thought. Clearly, the worst episode of TNG was
>"Shades of Gray." Does anyone else remember that flashback-episode piece
>of feces which ended the second season? Now, is it my imagination, or is
>that episode _not_ showing in syndication?
Do you know, I've quite forgotten that one, not a clue what it's about...
Mind you, most of the first couple seasons of TNG was a dead loss, really.
>
>David
>
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>Creighton University School of Law
>Omaha, Nebraska, USA
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On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Timothy Barbeisch wrote:
> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
> Trek movie. Thanks.
> ----
> http://members.aol.com/TBarbeisch
> bied...@tri-town.net
>
>
> "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend,
> to the death, your right to say it." - Voltaire
>
>
The best episode, in my humble opinion, would be the one where Lore gives
Data emotions and recruits him to capture Piccard and crew. This is a
good one not so much for Data getting emotions as it is for revisiting
the Borg collective disunified, and a revisit of Hugh particularly.
Seeing Dr. Crusher in a command role against the Borg was also interesting.
The worst one would have to be one from the first couple of episodes. It
was too much like the original series in those days. Any of the early
ones involving "The Traveler" should do nicely.
JD
In <4q9nqn$o...@pigeon.creighton.edu> ddi...@bluejay.creighton.edu
(David Dirgo) writes:
>Timothy Barbeisch (bied...@tri-town.net) wrote:
>> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
>> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be
from
>> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most
hated
>> Trek movie. Thanks.
>
>"Shades of Gray." Does anyone else remember that flashback-episode
piece
>of feces which ended the second season? Now, is it my imagination, or
is
>that episode _not_ showing in syndication?
I think it is... but I've been REAL lucky to miss it every time its
shown...
I can't **believe** Trek would pull the flashback episode for TNG...
for a FINALE of all things! Its almost as bad as having Voyager
getting taken over by a race of ppl having a bad hair day!
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On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Philip Blaiklock wrote:
> Timothy Barbeisch wrote:
> >
> > I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> > everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
> > any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
> > Trek movie. Thanks.
>
> I would say that the best TOS episode would be "Doomesday Machine", and the
> tribbles episode second. The worst....hmmm...Id have to think about that.
> The best TNG by far is seventh season's Parallels......that episode was
> relentless and full of surprises.....some other classic TNG's are "Sarek", "Best of both
> Worlds", "remember me", and the sixth season one with Picard being tortured by the
> cardassians..."chain of Command" The worst TNG was probably a tie between first seasons
> "Skin of evil" and second season's "up the long ladder"
> DS9....hmm......the best episode Ive seen is last year's where Kira is trapped
> in that big rock and ODO cant get her out.
> VOY.....best one Ive seen so far was last season with the Wormhole that they
> manage to beam that Romulan through; the worst has got to be this years when the Doctor
> falls in love with that Vedian Hologram.
> Movies....best Star Trek IV by a hair over ST II; the worst it without a doubt
> Star Trek V.
>
>
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>
>
I would disagree. The worst Star Trek movie was the first one. The
strange uniforms made them all look like panzies.
Linda L. Hoover
kb6...@earthlink.net (Steve Silverwood) wrote:
>Philip Blaiklock <pblai...@washington.xtn.net> wrote:
>>Timothy Barbeisch wrote:
>>>
>>> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
>>> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
>>> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
>>> Trek movie. Thanks.
>> I would say that the best TOS episode would be "Doomesday Machine", and the
>>tribbles episode second. The worst....hmmm...Id have to think about that.
>No contest: Spock's Brain is by far the worst. Turnabout Intruder is
>second.
"Drumhead" has got to be the worst TNG. "Inner Light" the best.
Linda Hoover
C.R.L. Kreuzer
Hmmm, I wonder if the wuss will feature in any of these?!
s6...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Original Series
Best: The Doomsday Machine, Mirror, Mirror, Balance of Terror
Worst: Spock's Brain pretty much takes the cake
TNG
Best: Chain of Command, The Lower Decks, Best of Both Worlds
Worst: The Neutral Zone, Shades of Grey
Voyager
Who cares?
DS9
Don't know
Movies
Best: ST II
Worst: ST V
Sean Dzafovic
Spike
Philip Blaiklock (pblai...@washington.xtn.net) wrote:
: The best TNG by far is seventh season's Parallels......that episode was
Agreed
: relentless and full of surprises.....some other classic TNG's are "Sarek",
"Best of both Worlds",
Agreed
"remember me",
You're sick! That was a Wussley episode!
and the sixth season one with Picard being tortured by the
: cardassians..."chain of Command"
Agreed
The worst TNG was probably a tie between first seasons
: "Skin of evil"
Not as bad as "The Royal"
: Movies....best Star Trek IV by a hair over ST II; the worst it without
a doubt
I liked ST VI. I think that beats IV.
: Star Trek V.
Nahhh. Star Trek I was CRAP!
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David Dirgo (ddi...@bluejay.creighton.edu) wrote:
: I had a passing, idle thought. Clearly, the worst episode of TNG was
: "Shades of Gray." Does anyone else remember that flashback-episode piece
: of feces which ended the second season? Now, is it my imagination, or is
: that episode _not_ showing in syndication?
Well, you can hardly blame them too much for that one.
There was a writers strike on at the time y'know.
Spike
C.R.L. Kreuzer (cr...@hermes.cam.ac.uk) wrote:
:
: Hmmm, I wonder if the wuss will feature in any of these?!
:
Someone already stated "Remember Me" as one of the best....
sick sick sick......
Kyle Smith
Best and worst episodes? And the winners (and loosers) are...<insert
drumroll>...
For the award of Best Episode in the Original Series, the winner
is...The Trouble with Tribbles!
<no worst episode will be awarded in this category due to lack of
experience>
For the Best Episode in the Next Generation Series, the nominees
are...Parralels, Lower Decks, and Timescape. And, ladies and gentlemen,
we have a threeway tie.
The Worst Episode in The Next Generation goes to... Shades of Grey by a
landslide.
In Deep Space Nine, the winner for Best Episode is... The one where
O'Brien keeps jumping in time. The Worst Episode in Deep Space Nine
is... Little Green Men.
And the last category, out there in hte Delta Quadrant, the best episode
award goes to... The one with the Doctor and Barclay, with Tuvix as a
close second.
The Worst Episode goes to... hmmm... can't think of one that was
PARTICULARLY bad.
We've seen a trend in the Movie category... The even numbered ones seem
to be pretty good, and the odd numbered ones aren't. The winner of the
Best Movie award is... Star Trek IV. The Worst Movie goes too (how many
people can guess this one?)... Star Trek V
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Kyle Smith wrote:
>
> Best and worst episodes? And the winners (and loosers) are...<insert
> drumroll>...
> For the award of Best Episode in the Original Series, the winner
> is...The Trouble with Tribbles!
> <no worst episode will be awarded in this category due to lack of
> experience>
Ok, I just figured out the worst TOS episode, it was Spock's Brain.
Steve Smith
Best Trek -
TOS: there aren't any good ones IMHO
TNG: Yesterday's Enterprise
DS9: Our Man Bashir
Voy: Heroes & Demons
Film: ST VI
Worst Trek -
TOS: Spock's Brain
TNG: Shades Of Grey (the absolute, all-time worst Trek ever)
DS9: can't think of one
Voy: Elogium (but most of them suck pretty convincingly)
Film: ST:TMP
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Peter M Clark
I can think of a lot of TNG episodes that reaked worse than
rotting fish--mostly in the first few seasons. I nominate "Angel One"
(first season), "Shades of Gray" (yeah, I agree: flash-back episodes are
lame!), "Sub Rosa" ('Beverly! I...love you!' <Open mouth, insert finger,
pull out other end> ), and "Encounter at Farpoint" (This could be
forgiven--after all, it was the pilot, but still, the acting was wooden
and overly dramatic.)
Fortunately, TNG had a lot more winners than losers. My list of
favorites would take up too much space. Till later,
Peter
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TOS Best: The City on the Edge of Forever
Worst: Spock's Brain (Turn About Intruder is a close second)
TAS Best: Yester Year
Worst: Arret (I think that was the title)
Movie Best: Star Trek II (IV is a close second)
Worst: Star Trek V
TNG Best: Best of Both Worlds or All Good Things... (Can't make up
my mind)
Worst: Shades of Grey
DS9 Best: Way of the Warrior
Worst: Move Along Home
Voy Best: (Can't think of one off the top of my head)
Worst: (There are so many I can't pick just one)
--Jim
Tim Lord
In article <4qc9vg$u...@gerry.cc.keele.ac.uk> u5...@cc.keele.ac.uk (Spike) writes:
>From: u5...@cc.keele.ac.uk (Spike)
>Subject: Re: Shades of Gray (was: Best & Worst Episodes Ever)
>Date: 20 Jun 1996 19:49:04 GMT
>David Dirgo (ddi...@bluejay.creighton.edu) wrote:
>: I had a passing, idle thought. Clearly, the worst episode of TNG was
>: "Shades of Gray." Does anyone else remember that flashback-episode piece
>: of feces which ended the second season? Now, is it my imagination, or is
>: that episode _not_ showing in syndication?
>Well, you can hardly blame them too much for that one.
>There was a writers strike on at the time y'know.
There wasn't a writers' strike! They just used clips from
previous shows to save money. Actually, it catches you
up on the first two seasons, instead of making you suffer
through them, so in that way, I don't think it was such
a bad episode.
Joe Amato
Steve Smith wrote:
>
> Best Trek -
> TOS: there aren't any good ones IMHO
> TNG: Yesterday's Enterprise
> DS9: Our Man Bashir
> Voy: Heroes & Demons
> Film: ST VI
>
>
I know it's just your opinion Steve, but 'City on the Edge of Forever' from
TOS did win a Hugo award. (best science fiction story I think) Just a thought.
Our Man Bashir is good, but 'The Visitor' was better. (IMO)
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Timothy Barbeisch (bied...@tri-town.net) wrote:
TOS
Best: Balance of Terror, Space Seed
Worst: Gotta think on it a bit
TNG
Best: All Good Things..., Frame of Mind, The one where Data's head isa
found in old San Fran, The one about the people who talk in stories
(Shaka when the walls fell)
Worst:
Voyager
Best: The one about B'Elana's missile, The one where Chikote meets the
people who visited his ancestors.
Worst: The Amelia Earhart Episode
Rob Garland
Timothy Barbeisch <bied...@tri-town.net> wrote:
>I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever
-snip-
I belive the name was "Balance of Terror" where the Romulan Flagship
crosses the neutral zone and attacks outposts with cloking device and
a massive energy weapon.
The reason it is my favorite is the chessmatch between the two
captains. The politically correct side plot of the racist navigator
not withstanding.
Note of course, the Romulan Commander later became Spock's father. Go
figure.
Hope it helps.
Rob Garland
Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
-snip-
One of these daze I'll read an entire message. Favorite episode has
to be Wrath of Khan. For obvious reasons, especially the fact that it
is the only movie that even remotely resembles an actual ST episode.
Worst movie has to be "The Voyage Home" (politically correct whale
saving stuff), closely followed by the first movie which wouldn't be
too bad, except 1,000 minutes of special effects and 10 minutes of
plot.
Again....hope it helps.
AndyCorv
Best TOS- The Doomsday Machine
Worst TOS- Hmmmm.....pass.
Best Movie- STVI
Worst Movie- STV
Best TNG- Best of Both Worlds
Worst TNG- Shades of Grey
Best DS9- Way of the Warrior
Worst DS9- Progress
Best VOY- Deadlock
Worst VOY- Once again, pass.
Andy
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TPMegabyte
Nominee for one of the worst TNG episodes: Justice!
The only redeeming thing it had was the "Planet of the Scantily Clad
Joggers" as Wil Wheaton called it once. <g> Yes, he really did say that.
It features that awful line: "We're from Starfleet. We don't lie." - The
Weasel.
jlha...@crosslink.net
In article <4qg0o4$5...@its.hooked.net>, rgar...@hooked.net says...
>
>Timothy Barbeisch <bied...@tri-town.net> wrote:
>
>>I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever
>crosses the neutral zone and attacks outposts with cloking device and
>a massive energy weapon.
>
Take a deep breath, guys, and let's remind ourselves - It's a television
show - those people are really actors.
What I'm trying to tell you here is that the Romulan Commander did not
become Spock's father - that would be an interesting exercise in time
travel and paradox. Rather, the *Actor* who played the *part* of the
Romulan Commander later played the *part* of Spock's father.
Joyce
Beeg Mon
jlha...@crosslink.net wrote:
>
>
> Take a deep breath, guys, and let's remind ourselves - It's a television
> show - those people are really actors.
>
> What I'm trying to tell you here is that the Romulan Commander did not
> become Spock's father - that would be an interesting exercise in time
> travel and paradox. Rather, the *Actor* who played the *part* of the
> Romulan Commander later played the *part* of Spock's father.
>
> Joyce
Gee...thanks for clearing that up!
You mean these are ACTORS entertaining people...in the entertainment
industry...and people are having fun with it...really?
Wow...just knowing that someone with YOUR intellect is around, makes me
feel SAFER already.
Thanks for all your help!
Now you go and get a life...ya' hear?
Idiot.
Horst Prillinger
In article <31C7B2...@tri-town.net>, Timothy Barbeisch
<bied...@tri-town.net> wrote:
> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
> Trek movie. Thanks.
TOS:
Best: "Balance of Terror"
Worst: "And the Children Shall Lead"
TNG:
Best: "Yesterday's Enterprise"
Worst: "Angel One"
DS9:
Best: "Duet"
Worst: "Life Support"
VOY:
I don't like VOY at all, but I thought "Persistence of Vision" was okay.
Movies:
Best: ST2
Worst: ST1 - TMP
-Horst
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Mike (Nine Inch Nails) Van Roy
On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Rob Garland wrote:
> Timothy Barbeisch <bied...@tri-town.net> wrote:
>
> >I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever
>
> -snip-
>
> I belive the name was "Balance of Terror" where the Romulan Flagship
> crosses the neutral zone and attacks outposts with cloking device and
> a massive energy weapon.
>
> The reason it is my favorite is the chessmatch between the two
> captains. The politically correct side plot of the racist navigator
> not withstanding.
>
> Note of course, the Romulan Commander later became Spock's father. Go
> figure.
>
> Hope it helps.
>
>
>
>
Do you mean the actor also played Spock's father? Spock's father was
Ambassador Sarek, who was the Vulcan Ambassador to the Federation. I
seriously doubt that a Romulan, even a "reformed" one, could attain such a
position.
Adam Field
Mike (Nine Inch Nails) Van Roy wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Timothy Barbeisch wrote:
>
> > I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> > everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
> > any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
> > Trek movie. Thanks.
> > http://members.aol.com/TBarbeisch
> > bied...@tri-town.net
> >
> >
> > "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend,
> > to the death, your right to say it." - Voltaire
> >
> >
>
> The best episode, in my humble opinion, would be the one where Lore gives
> Data emotions and recruits him to capture Piccard and crew. This is a
> good one not so much for Data getting emotions as it is for revisiting
> the Borg collective disunified, and a revisit of Hugh particularly.
> Seeing Dr. Crusher in a command role against the Borg was also interesting.
No way. This was entertaining, but the plot holes, plot holes, plot
holes, all over the place.
Firstly - Picard KNOWS there is a whopping great Borg ship somewhere
around. He'd better secure the ship against attack. So he beams
everyone onto the planet. Picard discovers a building. He doesn't know
who is in there, but there are Borg about, so he'd better call in for
backup before going in the building. So he just walks up to the
doorway. He knows there are Borg around (as mentioned before) so he'd
better perform a full scan on the whole building, utilising all the
security officers he called for backup. So he walks in without
scanning.
Hey, what a suprise. The Borg ship Attacks the Enterprise virtually
no-one is aboard. There is a dampening field on the building. Picard
and co get captured by the Borg.
Anyway, now my opinions of best and worst Trek:
TOS
Haven't seen much TOS, so I can't really comment here.
TNG
Best : 'Best of Both Worlds' followed by 'The Inner Light'
Worst : 'Shades of Gray' followed by the one where Wes smashes a
greenhouse and nearly gets executed (shame he got rescued).
DS9
I haven't seen all of these.
Best : 'Duet' followed by 'In The Hands Of The Prophets'
Worst : No _really_ bad DS9 comes to mind.
Voyager
I don't like Voyager, so I rank them all as bad.
Movies
Best : 'The Wrath of Kahn' followed by 'The Undiscovered Country'
Worst : 'The Motion Picture' followed by 'Generations'
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In article <4qat30$a...@news.snowcrest.net>, Zepp <ze...@snowcrest.net> wrote:
>In article <4q9nqn$o...@pigeon.creighton.edu>,
> ddi...@bluejay.creighton.edu (David Dirgo) wrote:
>>Timothy Barbeisch (bied...@tri-town.net) wrote:
>>> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
>>> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
>>> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
>>> Trek movie. Thanks.
>
>Lead, The Cloud Minders (Droxine -- Eeewww!) Best episodes TOS: City on the
>Edge of Forever, This Side of Paradise, Amok Time.
No comment. I'd put Errand of Mercy and Mirror Mirror up in my "Best"
too, but I don't know much TOS.
>Best episodes TNG: The Inner Light, Darmok and Jelaad, and the one where
>Riker thought he was going nuts doing that play. Worst episodes TNG: Genesis
>(ack, puke, gag), Skin of Evil, and the stupid one where Enterprise turns
>into some dorky temple and Data changes personalities every 5 minutes.
Surely you jest.
Best: Best Of Both Worlds, Yesterdays Enterprise, Pegasus
Worst: Shades of Grey, The Game, The Host, The Outcast
>Best episodes DS9: The Visitor, Life Support, and the one with the Cardassian
>who claimed to be the concentration camp director. Worst episodes DS9: gawd,
>there's been so many... Pretty much everything dealing with the Dominion.
Best: Way Of The Warrior, The Visitor, Jem'Hadar, Crossover
Worst: Rivals, Our Man Bashir, Collaborator
>Best movie: Wrath of Khan, no doubt about it. Voyage home isn't bad, either.
> Serach for Spock is ok, if you ignore Shatner chewing on the scenery! Worst
>movie: no contest, STV, the one Shatner directed. Ack!! Hairball attack!
Best: STII: WOK, STVI: TUC
Worst: STV: TFF, ST: TMP
>Voyager: Dunno, only ever seen the pilot, tho' I like a lot of the Voyager
>fanfic...
Best: Eye of the Needle, Caretaker
Worst: how long have you got?
B
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>
> In article <4qat30$a...@news.snowcrest.net>, Zepp <ze...@snowcrest.net> wrote:
> >In article <4q9nqn$o...@pigeon.creighton.edu>,
> > ddi...@bluejay.creighton.edu (David Dirgo) wrote:
> >>Timothy Barbeisch (bied...@tri-town.net) wrote:
> >>> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> >>> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
> >>> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
TOS: City on the Edge of Forever, The Naked Time, Amok Time, Balance of
Terror.
TNG: Yesterday's Enterprise, Sins of the Father, Captain' Holiday, Best
of Both Worlds I&II, The Inner Light
DS9: The one with Kang, Kor, and Koloth, Way of the Warrior, the one
where Miles was a clone
Voy: (this space available for rent}
IMHO
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Jeff
In article
<Pine.A32.3.91.960623...@violin.aix.calpoly.edu>, "Mike
Especially since the Romulan committed suicide at the end of Balance of
Terror. It would be tough enough for a Rommie to rise to the lofty
position of Vulcan Ambassador...but a dead Rommie?
Jeff
Bubba
Refresh me, what was the visitor about?? I've seen most of the
episodes, butI don't remember the titles.
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>
> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
> ----
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> "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend,
> to the death, your right to say it." - Voltaire
The best episode of all time is "The Best Of Both Worlds Part 1 and 2" of TNG and the
worst Episode is "Progress" of DS9.
The Best Movie is Star Trek II, my least favorite is Star Trek: The Motion Picture
although I don't hate it.
Fonzie
>
> Best: All Good Things...
> Worst: Sub Rosa, or any episode that featured Dr. Crusher, except for
> "The Host". If she weren't in "First Contact", would anyone
> notice?
How about her performance in "Remember me" or "The high ground" or
"Attached" just to name a few. When an episode focuses on Crusher she
generaly does a good job. And yes she would be missed if she was not in
"First Contact". She wasn't in the intire second season and I missed her
the whole time.
M.Warren.
Best IMHO is a tie between Inner light,yesterdays enterprise and Cause
and effect.
Mike.
p.s marks out of ten for each series
TOS 7
TNG 9
DS9 8
VOY 4
Junsok Yang
Strangely enough, the parts of TNG about Bev that I found memorable were
the short bits rather than the episodes built around her, like the bit at
the poker table where she bets the guys that they cut off their beards
against her coloring her hair blonde; or having the book "How to Get Ahead
Through Marriage" (given by her husband, but then why would he give it to
her if she didn't appreciate the joke?); or being "The Dancing Doctor" doing
tap dancing of all things...
That signals that she is really a very funny and mischievous character,
but that aspect of her character was never really developed at all, just
hinted at. A shame, really. She could have been the sly and funny
character aboard the often too-stuffy Enterprise-D (as well as the only
character who could have butted heads against Picard. The other characters
were in awe of Picard and/or much younger than him to really go against the
all-knowing Picard.)
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one with the space hippies singing about Eden (yea brother). Of course
they take over the ship, but when they get to Eden, anything to eat is
poison. Gee, how ironic.
Can't remember the episode's name but man, it was bad.
Jet Silverman
: Nominee for one of the worst TNG episodes: Justice!
Worst line in all of Trek history. Any shock it came for Wus?
J
Ulli und Conni
>
> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
> Trek movie. Thanks.
I think a good one is Data`s day. I really do not remember the title of
the best. But it愀 the one where the crew is determind by their basic
instincts. Jean Luc as a monkey.
And Voyager develops to my favourite. It just came up in germany.
Conni
Terrence Witherspoone
>"Attached" just to name a few. When an episode focuses on Crusher she
>generaly does a good job. And yes she would be missed if she was not in
>"First Contact". She wasn't in the intire second season and I missed her
>the whole time.
I agree. I thought she did a wonderful acting job. And, quite frankly,
yes, I would miss her if she wasn't in First Contact...I couldn't
stand the fact that she wasn't in second season. I was thrilled to see
her come back.
Lia
Chris Patrick
TNG: CASINO ROYALE. when riker, data and worf beam down to a blank
soundstage with a revolving door, and the rest of us channel surf
untill finally they discover a dead astronaut whos diary explaines
everything. ouch.
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<zf...@zfw01.zfw.uni-hildesheim.de> writes
>Timothy Barbeisch wrote:
>>
>> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
>> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
>> any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most hated
>> Trek movie. Thanks.
>> ----Hello Timothy
>
>I think a good one is Data`s day. I really do not remember the title of
>
>And Voyager develops to my favourite. It just came up in germany.
>
>Conni
-To Timothy
My favourite TNG episode is Yesterday's Enterprise. My least favourite would
have to be The Naked Now which was a follow up (or rather rip off) to TOS The
Naked Time.
-My favourite DS9 episode is Little Green Man, the least favourite is Move Along
Home.
As for TOS, my favourite is City on the Edge of Forever and my least favourite
is Plato's Stepchildren.
The best film has got to be Generations and the worst Star Trek The Motion
Picture
Sally Cort
Bonnie Chan
>
>I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
>everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be from
>any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite and most
hated
>Trek movie. Thanks.
The best episode is definitely All good things...
The best movie is ST VI: The Undiscovered Country.
For the episode, there are few that I think is pretty cool.(but not the
best)
1.The Best of the Both World.
2.Chain of command
3.The Measure of a Man
4.Ensign Ro
5.Sarek
Plus all the Q's episode especially Deja Q.
Has anyone notice that Q has guest star in the Murder One recently as a
lawyer.
For the worst--I have to quote the Entertainment Weekly that "Trek is a
little like sex--even when it's bad, it's pretty good"
Edmond G. Bertrand
From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
As for the enterprise NCC 1701-E is intrepid class. It has at
least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
Good Things...
Replies welcome
Bill Megginson
According to most of my sources, the Enterprise E will be a Soverign
class vessel and will look like a mix between the old Enterprise
and the Enterprise-D. I have not heard about the Borg being controlled
by the Dominion.
Bill
(where no man has ever wanted to go...)
Chris Newman
On 20 Jun 1996 19:45:18 GMT, u5...@cc.keele.ac.uk (Spike) wrote:
<snip>
> The worst TNG was probably a tie between first seasons
>: "Skin of evil"
At least it did away with Yarr (or so we thought!).
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Edmond G. Bertrand wrote:
>
> From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
> to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
> proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
> the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
> As for the enterprise NCC 1701-E is intrepid class. It has at
> least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
> cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
> Good Things...
>
> Replies welcome
Ah, since you welcome replies, here's some of mine:
1. The Enterprise-E is not Intrepid class
2. The Enterprise-E doesn't have three nacelles
3. Intrepid class starships do not have three nacelles
4. It does not have that mauler device that was used in "All Good Things."
5. The Borg do not go through the Bajoran womrhole.]
6. The Enterprise-E is Sovereign class; a picture of it can be seen at
http://www.cube3.com/ncc1701e.jpg
- Russell Christiansen
Kris Vervloesem
Am I really the only one who thinks "Ensign Ro" is the best TNG? And
"Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
(yeah, well, I'd marry Laren if I were 500 years younger).
Kris
john catherine sheard
In article <31D71F...@tiac.net>, yo...@dagoba.tiac.net says...
>
>From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
>to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
>proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
>the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
> As for the enterprise NCC 1701-E is intrepid class. It has at
>least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
>cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
>Good Things...
>
>Replies welcome
The Enterprise E is not Intrepid class. Have you ever seen the size of an
Intrepid class vessel say Voyager, now have you ever compared the two
ships, they would have to make the next Enterprise smaller. From what I
know it's Soverign class a new class of starship, and the borg won't be
coming through the wormhole. There is one idea that they will go back in
time and get Cochrane before he invents the warp drive letting the
Romulans win the war. This would totally destroy the Federation. I have
no idea is this is true either. The Enterprise can't have three nacelles
there are some pictures of the new Enterprise and in all of them there are
only two nacelles.
-Jay
sdredge
"Edmond G. Bertrand" <yo...@dagoba.tiac.net> wrote:
>
> From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
> to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
> proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
> the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
Scary thought!
Erick Baker
On Jul 01, 1996 15:00:39 in article <Re: First Contact>, 'Russell
Christiansen <xia...@mcs.com>' wrote:
>Edmond G. Bertrand wrote:
>>
>> From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
>> to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
>> proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
>> the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
>> least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
>> cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
>> Good Things...
>>
>> Replies welcome
>
>Ah, since you welcome replies, here's some of mine:
>1. The Enterprise-E is not Intrepid class
>2. The Enterprise-E doesn't have three nacelles
>3. Intrepid class starships do not have three nacelles
>4. It does not have that mauler device that was used in "All Good Things."
>5. The Borg do not go through the Bajoran womrhole.]
>6. The Enterprise-E is Sovereign class; a picture of it can be seen at
> http://www.cube3.com/ncc1701e.jpg
>
>- Russell Christiansen
Interesting JPEG. Where did they all come from?
By the looks of it, the Enterprise-E is a cross between
Enterprise-D and Voyager, being more compact and streamlined. Does anyone
agree?
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sdredge
Russell Christiansen <xia...@mcs.com> wrote:
>
> Edmond G. Bertrand wrote:
> >
> > From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
> > to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
> > proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
> > the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
> > As for the enterprise NCC 1701-E is intrepid class. It has at
> > least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
> > cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
> > Good Things...
> >
> > Replies welcome
>
> Ah, since you welcome replies, here's some of mine:
> 1. The Enterprise-E is not Intrepid class
> 2. The Enterprise-E doesn't have three nacelles
> 3. Intrepid class starships do not have three nacelles
> 4. It does not have that mauler device that was used in "All Good Things."
> 5. The Borg do not go through the Bajoran womrhole.]
> 6. The Enterprise-E is Sovereign class; a picture of it can be seen at
> http://www.cube3.com/ncc1701e.jpg
>
> - Russell Christiansen
Thanks for the Enterprise-E pic. It is cool.
Mike (Nine Inch Nails) Van Roy
I'd take Ro Laren over DeAnna Troi any day of the week!
Mike (Nine Inch Nails) Van Roy
On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Edmond G. Bertrand wrote:
> From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
> to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
> proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
> the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
> As for the enterprise NCC 1701-E is intrepid class. It has at
> least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
> cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
> Good Things...
>
> Replies welcome
>
>
The wormhole supposedly is anchored at Bajor with a "floating" end in the
Gamma Quadrant. In order for the Borg to materialize at Bajor, one of
two things must have happened:
1) The Borg are now present in the Gamma quadrant as well as their
supposed origin in the Delta quadrant, which would give them domain over
almost half of the Milky Way galaxy.
2) The floating end of the wormhole has moved to the Delta quadrant.
Any guesses as to which is most likely?
Jeff Long
In article <kris.vervloesem-...@dialup31.leuven.eunet.be>,
kris.ve...@ping.be (Kris Vervloesem) wrote:
> Am I really the only one who thinks "Ensign Ro" is the best TNG? And
> "Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
> (yeah, well, I'd marry Laren if I were 500 years younger).
>
> Kris
The Beeb refused to air "Preemptive Strike?" Did they give a reason? I'd
be curious to hear it. Did they see it as too sympathetic to terrorist
groups? I thought it was one of the better TNG episodes. (Of course, I
like any Ro ep.)
Jeff
Johnny Lamar Rhyne
In <Pine.A32.3.91.960701...@violin.aix.calpoly.edu>
"Mike (Nine Inch Nails) Van Roy" <mva...@violin.aix.calpoly.edu>
writes:
>
>
>On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Kris Vervloesem wrote:
>
>> Am I really the only one who thinks "Ensign Ro" is the best TNG? And
>> "Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good,
too
>> (yeah, well, I'd marry Laren if I were 500 years younger).
>>
>> Kris
>>
>>
>
I don't know about any other trek, but here are the best TOS episodes.
1:The City on the edge of forever.
2:Space Seed
3: Trouble with Tribbles- well the tribbles are just so cute!
Adam Field
Mike (Nine Inch Nails) Van Roy wrote:
>
> On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Edmond G. Bertrand wrote:
>
> > From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
> > to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
> > proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
> > the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
> > As for the enterprise NCC 1701-E is intrepid class. It has at
> > least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
> > cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
> > Good Things...
> >
> > Replies welcome
> >
> >
>
> The wormhole supposedly is anchored at Bajor with a "floating" end in the
> Gamma Quadrant.
Incorrect. The wormhole is STABLE. This was defined clearly in 'In The Hands Of
The Prophets' (DS9). Keiko said that neither point moved in space.
Adam Field
>
> > Am I really the only one who thinks "Ensign Ro" is the best TNG? And
> > "Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
> > (yeah, well, I'd marry Laren if I were 500 years younger).
> >
> > Kris
>
> be curious to hear it. Did they see it as too sympathetic to terrorist
> groups? I thought it was one of the better TNG episodes. (Of course, I
> like any Ro ep.)
>
> Jeff
They did show it, but on a different day. They chopped around the schedule
because of sport.
Business Unit
I think you must be suffering from one of those spacial/temporal
anomalies or something because I watched Pre-Emptive Strike on the BBC!
Admittedly, it was shown on a different day, but at least they did show
it (unlike The High Ground). I suggest you fork out for a copy of a
Television Listings magazine and keep up to date with the schedules!
David Spacey
Jeff Long (foi...@postoffice.ptd.net) wrote:
: In article <kris.vervloesem-...@dialup31.leuven.eunet.be>,
: kris.ve...@ping.be (Kris Vervloesem) wrote:
: > Am I really the only one who thinks "Ensign Ro" is the best TNG? And
: > "Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
: > (yeah, well, I'd marry Laren if I were 500 years younger).
: >
: > Kris
: The Beeb refused to air "Preemptive Strike?" Did they give a reason? I'd
: be curious to hear it. Did they see it as too sympathetic to terrorist
: groups? I thought it was one of the better TNG episodes. (Of course, I
: like any Ro ep.)
: Jeff
Is that the one where she has to infiltrate the Maquis? If so it was
shown in sequence a couple of weeks ago. With Aunty Beeb's sluggish
purchasing policy (always 3 years late) we only just got there.
The one they wouldn't show because of the infamous IRA remark was well
before her time.
Dave Spacey
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> >to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
> >proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
> >the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
> > As for the enterprise NCC 1701-E is intrepid class. It has at
> >least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
> >cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
> >Good Things...
> >
> >Replies welcome
>
> Intrepid class vessel say Voyager, now have you ever compared the two
> ships, they would have to make the next Enterprise smaller. From what I
> know it's Soverign class a new class of starship, and the borg won't be
> coming through the wormhole. There is one idea that they will go back in
> time and get Cochrane before he invents the warp drive letting the
> Romulans win the war. This would totally destroy the Federation. I have
> no idea is this is true either. The Enterprise can't have three nacelles
> there are some pictures of the new Enterprise and in all of them there are
> only two nacelles.
> -Jay
Why would the Borg come though the worm hole for?? They are on the other
side of the Galaxy!!! It would take them over 70 years to get there at
Warp 9!! Unless they had those transwarp conduits and get there in a
fraction of the time but Lore was the one who helped them create them.
Unless they are not going to come through the Bajorin worm hole but the
Barzan worm hole! That would make more sense to me anyway.
They would never make a ship called Enterprise Intrepid Class!
Mr Jason JG Hutchinson
Adam Field (a...@tcp.co.uk) wrote:
: > The wormhole supposedly is anchored at Bajor with a "floating" end in the
: > Gamma Quadrant.
: Incorrect. The wormhole is STABLE. This was defined clearly in 'In The Hands Of
: The Prophets' (DS9). Keiko said that neither point moved in space.
Hell, they said it was stable in the pilot episode, it was what made the
wormhole so important. As for the Bajor stuff, I don't know where he got
that and the stuff about the E-E from, but he is _way_ behind the times.
Check http://www.cdsnet.net/vidiot for the only reliable source of First
Contact pics and stuff (I have no affiliation with it, it's just a damn
good site!).
--
Things never said on the X-Files:
5) How come all these warehouses we walk around always look the same.
And what is it with these torches. No lights around here?"
Kevin
!
Actually it will be an half execlisor class and half interepid the bottom half is execlisor style
while the top is attached to the bottom instead of a neck like the enterprise D and for the full
story go to http://www.cdsnet.net/vidiot/st-fc/synopsis.html and thatll explain everything...
and the new ship is cool!!! it looks good but go and judge for yourself!!!!
Beat Kuert
bon...@ihug.co.nz (Bonnie Chan) wrote:
>In article <31C7B2...@tri-town.net>, bied...@tri-town.net says...
>Plus all the Q's episode especially Deja Q.
I agree! Deja Q is just great...
My personal favourite however is TAPESTRY (Season 6)
I also that the double episodes should be counted apart, they have
much more time to develop the story.
Lucius Kuert
Beat Kuert
new...@powerup.com.au (Chris Newman) wrote:
>On 20 Jun 1996 19:45:18 GMT, u5...@cc.keele.ac.uk (Spike) wrote:
><snip>
>> The worst TNG was probably a tie between first seasons
>>: "Skin of evil"
>At least it did away with Yarr (or so we thought!).
I agree :)
But "Family Hunt" and "Dark Page" were both absolutely catastrophic!
Lucius Kuert
Johnny Lamar Rhyne
Well, The Enterprise 1701-C was Ambassador Class.
Zepp
In article <kris.vervloesem-...@dialup31.leuven.eunet.be>,
kris.ve...@ping.be (Kris Vervloesem) wrote:
>Am I really the only one who thinks "Ensign Ro" is the best TNG? And
>"Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
>(yeah, well, I'd marry Laren if I were 500 years younger).
>
>Kris
Auntie Beeb refused to air "Pre-emptive Strike"? God's codpiece, why??
That's one of their sillier censoring decisions of recent years, I must say.
Were they afraid that folks would become sympathetic to the IRA, or some
silly bullshit like that? Chya'ot! Fings've gone down'ill a bit since Oi
left the owld country, 'swelp me gawd they 'ave!
Sigh. Mind you, the Yanks aren't any better, viz ABC's censorship of
"ReBoot", among many other shameful examples...
I liked "Ensign Ro" myself, and thought "Pre-emptive Strike" was flat out
brilliant! Also "Chain of Command" especially part 2. Also "The Inner
Light". Sorry, Conni -- the episode you liked so much (which was called
"Genesis". by the way) really had some horrible holes in the plot. Problem
was, they tried to say that the devolution was due to DNA reverting to older
forms -- but most of what they showed, wasn't in the human bloodline, no
matter HOW far back in time ya go. You could devolve a human to an ape, or
to a prehistoric animal, such as a small mammal, or even to a prehistoric
amoeba. But to claim that one could devolve into a spider, for instance, was
totally ludicrous. I suppose, if one were not scientifically inclined, one
might not mind such silliness. Unfortunately, I am, so I hated it.
Oh well. So it goes. So what else is new?
Greywolf the Wanderer, borrowing zepp's account
Russell Christiansen
I've heard of a new Star Trek: First Contact synopsis myself, and it is a little bit different from
the one that the Vidiot website has, it is located on "The Blue Base"
(http://cygnus.rsabbs.com/~kwitzig/st_fgen.html). Find out and see how the two are different!!!
And the Enterprise-E will look like what is shown at
http://www.cube3.com/ncc1701e.jpg .
Enjoy!!!
- Russell Christiansen
David Rueber
Jeff Long wrote:
>
> In article <kris.vervloesem-...@dialup31.leuven.eunet.be>,
> kris.ve...@ping.be (Kris Vervloesem) wrote:
>
> > Am I really the only one who thinks "Ensign Ro" is the best TNG? And
> > "Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
> > (yeah, well, I'd marry Laren if I were 500 years younger).
> >
> > Kris
>
> be curious to hear it. Did they see it as too sympathetic to terrorist
> groups? I thought it was one of the better TNG episodes. (Of course, I
> like any Ro ep.)
>
wonderful addition to the crew of the Enterprise, and I wish she hadn't
left.
Artemis
Allan Wilding
In article <31D988...@computan.on.ca>, jmo...@computan.on.ca writes
Wesley Crusher please change your fucking haircut you little cunt.
--
Allan Wilding
friday jones
Chris Patrick wrote:
>
> Richard Dickinson wrote:
> >
> > Spocks brain is pretty bad, but the worst TOS (painful to watch) is the
> > one with the space hippies singing about Eden (yea brother). Of course
> > they take over the ship, but when they get to Eden, anything to eat is
> > poison. Gee, how ironic.
> >
> > Can't remember the episode's name but man, it was bad.
>
> TNG: CASINO ROYALE. when riker, data and worf beam down to a blank
> soundstage with a revolving door, and the rest of us channel surf
> untill finally they discover a dead astronaut whos diary explaines
> everything. ouch.
>
> --
> ==========================================
> Jeep CJ |> "Tread Lightly"
> CHRIS PATRICK | ||\\
> ______| _||_\\__
> (|____ |____| ___ |]
> (>| = \_________/ = \|=
> *** ***
> ** ** ** **
> ** ** ** **
> *** ***
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"The Incredible Okana" comes to mind....
-fries
friday jones
Adam Field wrote:
>
> Jeff Long wrote:
> >
> > In article <kris.vervloesem-...@dialup31.leuven.eunet.be>,
> > kris.ve...@ping.be (Kris Vervloesem) wrote:
> >
> > > Am I really the only one who thinks "Ensign Ro" is the best TNG? And
> > > "Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
> > > (yeah, well, I'd marry Laren if I were 500 years younger).
> > >
> > > Kris
> >
> > The Beeb refused to air "Preemptive Strike?" Did they give a reason? I'd
> > be curious to hear it. Did they see it as too sympathetic to terrorist
> > groups? I thought it was one of the better TNG episodes. (Of course, I
> > like any Ro ep.)
> >
>
> They did show it, but on a different day. They chopped around the schedule
> because of sport.
>
> --
> -----------------------------Adam Field-----------------------------------
> http://www.tcp.co.uk/staff/anf *** Phone : (01703) 393392 | "Live Long
> E-Mail <a...@tcp.co.uk> (o-o) Fax : (01703) 366364 | And Prosper"
> ----------------------------ooo-(_)-ooo-----------------------------------
tom...@net-connect.net
On Sat, 29 Jun 1996 zfw1 said:
>Timothy Barbeisch wrote:
>> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
>> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be
>>from any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite
>>and most hated Trek movie. Thanks.
>> ----Hello Timothy
>I think a good one is Data`s day. I really do not remember the
>title of the best. But it´s the one where the crew is determind by
>their basic instincts. Jean Luc as a monkey.
>And Voyager develops to my favourite. It just came up in germany.
>Conni
I thought Picard became a lemur. :)
Thomas L. Burleigh
(tom...@net-connect.net, http://www.net-connect.net/~tomburl)
Rathin Yagnik
In article <4rkf5f$4...@news.net-connect.net>, tom...@net-connect.net
says...
>
> On Sat, 29 Jun 1996 zfw1 said:
> >Timothy Barbeisch wrote:
> >> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> >> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be
> >>from any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite
> >>and most hated Trek movie. Thanks.
> >> ----Hello Timothy
> >I think a good one is Data`s day. I really do not remember the
> >their basic instincts. Jean Luc as a monkey.
> >And Voyager develops to my favourite. It just came up in germany.
> >Conni
>
> I thought Picard became a lemur. :)
>
> Thomas L. Burleigh
> (tom...@net-connect.net, http://www.net-connect.net/~tomburl)
>
--
Isn't a lemur a species of a monkey?? :))
-/\/itewing
Alan
Here is my list of the best and worst of each series:
BEST WORST
TOS: City On The Edge Of Forever Turnabout Intruder
TAS: (Where Spock meets himself in past) The Infinite Vulcan
TNG: The Inner Light (most emotional) Night Terrors
DS9:
best:
(Where Jake grows old and keeps meeting his father trapped in time.)
worst:
(Any episode with Diminion, good idea but very badly done).
VOY:
best:
Where they contact the Romulan through the wormhole. Only episode so
far that made you feel their pain of being trapped on the other side
of the galaxy.
worst:
The one where Kes wants a baby and the ship is attacked by giant
sperm.
MOVIES:
best:
ST2: Wrath Of Khan
worst:
ST5: of course... although Bill tried
>On Sat, 29 Jun 1996 zfw1 said:
> >Timothy Barbeisch wrote:
> >> I am doing a chart on the Best and Worst ST episode's ever, could
> >> everyone please reply via e-mail and tell me yours. They can be
> >>from any of the Trek shows. Also please tell me your favorite
> >>and most hated Trek movie. Thanks.
> >> ----Hello Timothy
> >I think a good one is Data`s day. I really do not remember the
> >title of the best. But it´s the one where the crew is determind by
Tony Hayward
In article <foiler-0107...@cs1-01.blo.ptd.net>,
Jeff Long <foi...@postoffice.ptd.net> wrote:
>In article <kris.vervloesem-...@dialup31.leuven.eunet.be>,
>kris.ve...@ping.be (Kris Vervloesem) wrote:
>
>> Am I really the only one who thinks "Ensign Ro" is the best TNG? And
>> "Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
>> (yeah, well, I'd marry Laren if I were 500 years younger).
>>
>> Kris
>
>The Beeb refused to air "Preemptive Strike?" Did they give a reason? I'd
>be curious to hear it. Did they see it as too sympathetic to terrorist
>groups? I thought it was one of the better TNG episodes. (Of course, I
>like any Ro ep.)
>
>Jeff
The BBC DID show Preemptive Strike on the Monday of the week they showed
All Good Things...
They wanted to get them out of the way before Wimbledon started.
--
================================================================================
Tony Hayward | As seen in Lee and Herring's
pcyj...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk | "Fist of Fun - The Book"
================================================================================
Theresa Murison
In article <4rd4b2$b...@news.snowcrest.net>, Zepp <ze...@snowcrest.net>
writes
>In article <kris.vervloesem-...@dialup31.leuven.eunet.be>,
> kris.ve...@ping.be (Kris Vervloesem) wrote:
>>Am I really the only one who thinks "Ensign Ro" is the best TNG? And
>>"Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
>>(yeah, well, I'd marry Laren if I were 500 years younger).
>>
>>Kris
>
>That's one of their sillier censoring decisions of recent years, I must say.
> Were they afraid that folks would become sympathetic to the IRA, or some
>silly bullshit like that? Chya'ot! Fings've gone down'ill a bit since Oi
>left the owld country, 'swelp me gawd they 'ave!
>
>Sigh. Mind you, the Yanks aren't any better, viz ABC's censorship of
>"ReBoot", among many other shameful examples...
>
>I liked "Ensign Ro" myself, and thought "Pre-emptive Strike" was flat out
>brilliant! Also "Chain of Command" especially part 2. Also "The Inner
>Light". Sorry, Conni -- the episode you liked so much (which was called
>"Genesis". by the way) really had some horrible holes in the plot. Problem
>was, they tried to say that the devolution was due to DNA reverting to older
>forms -- but most of what they showed, wasn't in the human bloodline, no
>matter HOW far back in time ya go. You could devolve a human to an ape, or
>to a prehistoric animal, such as a small mammal, or even to a prehistoric
>amoeba. But to claim that one could devolve into a spider, for instance, was
>totally ludicrous. I suppose, if one were not scientifically inclined, one
>might not mind such silliness. Unfortunately, I am, so I hated it.
>
>Oh well. So it goes. So what else is new?
>
>Greywolf the Wanderer, borrowing zepp's account
I hate to burst your bubble but the BBC DID broadcast 'Pre-emptive
Strike' - and bloody good it was too!
--
Theresa
Greg Berigan
In rec.arts.startrek.tech,
pcyj...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (Tony Hayward) wrote:
>Jeff Long <foi...@postoffice.ptd.net> wrote:
>>kris.ve...@ping.be (Kris Vervloesem) wrote:
>>> And
>>> "Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
>> The Beeb refused to air "Preemptive Strike?" Did they give a reason? I'd
>> be curious to hear it. Did they see it as too sympathetic to terrorist
>> groups? I thought it was one of the better TNG episodes. (Of course, I
>> like any Ro ep.)
> The BBC DID show Preemptive Strike on the Monday of the week they showed
> All Good Things...
Was the dialogue fully intact, including Data's list of successful
terrorist actions, including the Irish Reunification of 20xx? I'd heard
that line was edited out.
TNG is not a r.a.s.current topic, it has nothing to do with Wesley
Crusher, Vulcans, Bajorans, Klingons, Borg, is neither about technology
or fandom, and alt.startrek is a bogus group.
Followups redirected to rec.arts.startrek.misc.
--
_-<#)-=# http://cse.unl.edu/~gberigan/War-of-the-Worlds.html
___/___
_-~_--<###) "`Where's Crow?' Huh. I'm not supposed to say anything, but
<~c>' __--< I did see that little moron heading towards the basement
\_--=____#) with a pickaxe in his hand." -- Tom Servo; MST3K: The Movie
LR_S646
friday jones wrote:
>
> Adam Field wrote:
> >
> > Jeff Long wrote:
> > >
> > > kris.ve...@ping.be (Kris Vervloesem) wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Preemptive strike" which Aunty Beeb refused to air is pretty good, too
> > > >
> > > > Kris
> > >
> > > be curious to hear it. Did they see it as too sympathetic to terrorist
> > > groups? I thought it was one of the better TNG episodes. (Of course, I
> > > like any Ro ep.)
> > >
> >
> > They did show it, but on a different day. They chopped around the schedule
> > because of sport.
> >
> > --
> > -----------------------------Adam Field-----------------------------------
> > http://www.tcp.co.uk/staff/anf *** Phone : (01703) 393392 | "Live Long
> > E-Mail <a...@tcp.co.uk> (o-o) Fax : (01703) 366364 | And Prosper"
> > ----------------------------ooo-(_)-ooo-----------------------------------
Mario Alaniz
Edmond G. Bertrand wrote:
>
> From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
> to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
> proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
> the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
That's not accurate. All bits of plot that have been verified do not at all mention the
Dominion.
> As for the enterprise NCC 1701-E is intrepid class. It has at
> least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
> cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
> Good Things...
>
Nope on the three phasers. Designs of the 1701-E have been seen all across the
Internet. Its a cross between the 1701-D & Voyager. That is to suggest that the saucer
is a little more integrated into the spine of the ship. The only Federation ship that
has a cloak is the Defiant, and it most certainly can't fire when cloaked.
> Replies welcome
Surf Yahoo! (movies section) for stuff on the new movie. Most of the sites there are
pretty close to what's going on, and they're very up to date.
Peace
Mario Alaniz
No Strings Attached
Great hypothesis...but it's wrong
Borg are from the Delta Quadrant, not Gamma, so no dominion control.
The Enterprise E is sovereign class..and though it is kinda cool looking,
it's got is' weak points and only 2 nacelles..without 2 warp cores...3
nacelles would tear a ship apart
no cloaking device...that's a treaty or Algeron violation
The defiant has a cloaking device because it was a Federatoin/Romulan
cooperative effort to stop the borg.
Zepp
In article <dTBX8FAd...@demon.co.uk>,
Theresa Murison <the...@demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>Auntie Beeb refused to air "Pre-emptive Strike"? God's codpiece, why??
>>That's one of their sillier censoring decisions of recent years, I must
say.
>> Were they afraid that folks would become sympathetic to the IRA, or some
>>silly bullshit like that? Chya'ot! Fings've gone down'ill a bit since Oi
>>left the owld country, 'swelp me gawd they 'ave!
>>
>>Sigh. Mind you, the Yanks aren't any better, viz ABC's censorship of
>>"ReBoot", among many other shameful examples...
>
>I hate to burst your bubble but the BBC DID broadcast 'Pre-emptive
>Strike' - and bloody good it was too!
Good-O!! Relieved to hear it -- it did seem a bit out of character for them
not to run it, but over here we're at the mercy of what the Yanks think is
news... <grin>
Greywolf the Wanderer, borrowing zepp's account
(grinning, ducking, and running)
Colin Jackson
On Tuesday, July 09, 1996, No Strings Attached wrote...
The Defiant has a cloaking device to only use in the Gamma Quandrant and
in return the romulans get and info on the Dominion. But the Defiant was
built to fight the Borg.
Colin Jackson
jack...@kwanza.com
Anthony Haughty
"Edmond G. Bertrand" <yo...@dagoba.tiac.net> wrote:
>From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
>to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
>proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
>the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
> As for the enterprise NCC 1701-E is intrepid class. It has at
>least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
>cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
>Good Things...
>Replies welcome
The E-E will be either Sovereign, Nova or Enterprise class, depending
on who you listen to. Pictures doing the rounds on the web at the
moment show is with a saucer a similar shape to Voyager, a low profile
again like Voyager, and long wapr nacelles (two of them) like the
Excelsior.
Russell Christiansen
Anthony Haughty wrote:
>
> "Edmond G. Bertrand" <yo...@dagoba.tiac.net> wrote:
>
> >From what I have heard through the grapevine, the borg are going
> >to appear through the bajoran wormhole. They destroy the defiant, and
> >proceed directly for earth. The borg are supposedly being controled by
> >the dominion and are faster and stronger than ever.
> > As for the enterprise NCC 1701-E is intrepid class. It has at
> >least three nacells and a cloaking device(I don't know if it is a "phase
> >cloak". It can fire when cloaked and may also have the phaser from All
> >Good Things...
>
> >Replies welcome
>
> The E-E will be either Sovereign, Nova or Enterprise class, depending
> on who you listen to. Pictures doing the rounds on the web at the
> moment show is with a saucer a similar shape to Voyager,
A little bit.
a low profile
> again like Voyager, and long wapr nacelles (two of them) like the
> Excelsior.
It's been confirmed it will be Sovereign class.
- Russell Christiansen
Mike (Nine Inch Nails) Van Roy
On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Adam Field wrote:
> Adm. Hantai wrote:
> >
> > Anthony...@btinternet.com (Anthony Haughty) wrote:
> >
> > >The E-E will be either Sovereign, Nova or Enterprise class, depending
> > >on who you listen to. Pictures doing the rounds on the web at the
> > >moment show is with a saucer a similar shape to Voyager, a low profile
> > >again like Voyager, and long wapr nacelles (two of them) like the
> > >Excelsior.
> >
> > Definitely won't be an Enterprise Class, that classification
> > is already taken up by NCC-1701 post-TMP1 refit, ie the Constitution
> > Class vessel was renamed Enterprise Class when all the new technology
> > was put in between The Original Series (NCC 1701-A was also Enterprise
> > Class), and The Motion Picture (1); additional documentation regarding
> > that refit and class change, as well as information regarding the
> > Excelsior Class warp nacelles, will be made available through these
> > newsgroups if I get enough requests. Requests thru e-mail tho, don't
> > want to turn this into a spamfest, LoL.
>
> Yeah, but just because that happened, doesn't mean Paramount won't call it
> 'Enterprise Class' remember, the title 'First Contact' has been used already
> (TNG episode).
>
> --
> -----------------------------Adam Field-----------------------------------
> http://www.tcp.co.uk/staff/anf *** Phone : (01703) 393392 | "Live Long
> E-Mail <a...@tcp.co.uk> (o-o) Fax : (01703) 366364 | And Prosper"
> ----------------------------ooo-(_)-ooo-----------------------------------
>
>
Think of it this way. The Ford Mustang *class* automobile is still called
the Mustang, even though it is completely different from the original
Mustangs first produced. Minor changes could be made that, over time,
could significantly alter a vehicle, but might not merrit a name change
from model to model.
$0.02
Adam Field
Russell Christiansen
Adm. Hantai wrote:
>
> Anthony...@btinternet.com (Anthony Haughty) wrote:
>
> >The E-E will be either Sovereign, Nova or Enterprise class, depending
> >on who you listen to. Pictures doing the rounds on the web at the
> >moment show is with a saucer a similar shape to Voyager, a low profile
> >again like Voyager, and long wapr nacelles (two of them) like the
> >Excelsior.
>
> Definitely won't be an Enterprise Class, that classification
> is already taken up by NCC-1701 post-TMP1 refit, ie the Constitution
> Class vessel was renamed Enterprise Class when all the new technology
> was put in between The Original Series (NCC 1701-A was also Enterprise
> Class), and The Motion Picture (1); additional documentation regarding
> that refit and class change, as well as information regarding the
> Excelsior Class warp nacelles, will be made available through these
> newsgroups if I get enough requests. Requests thru e-mail tho, don't
> want to turn this into a spamfest, LoL.
It's been clearly identified as a Sovereign class starship.
- Russell Christiansen
Jeff Havens
Wrong-O, bad man. You've been reading too much FASA material. Paramount
and thier writers NEVER called the refitted Enterprise or the Enterprise-A
an Enterprise-Class ship. Proof in point--In ST-VI, Scotty is in the
Lounge looking at a set of blueprints of the Enterprise. If you look at
the top, it clearly shows the identification as a Constitution-class
vessel. Many of the readouts from the various movies also show this, but
it's a case of blink-and-you-miss-it.
By the way, FASA's liberalism in naming ships (The Reliant was a
Reliant-class??) caused them several years ago to lose thier publication
license. That's why you don't see any more new stuff from them. :-)
--J