STEVEL - U.S.A= ADOLPH HITLER!
DGVREIMAN
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This is a rebuttal to the volumes of SteveL fraud and lies he has
posted about me, the USA and our Troops fighting our war on terror:
See the previous posts below about the Nigel Brooks hate gang member
SteveL (listed in order) that prove the true agenda of this Nigel
Brooks hate gang member:
The SteveL USA = Adolph Hitler statement is found below in the Nigel
Brook hate gang member SteveL's reply to Mark Alexander's post:
http://tinyurl.com/24t9etv Nigel Brooks says his key gang member
SteveL "never lies" - which is typical hate gang support. However,
below we find that SteveL has been proved not only a serial liar about
America and our Troops, but also just about everything else he has
posted : i.e: SteveL said Video proving GI murdered - proved false.
SteveL said America murders for business - proved false. SteveL said
Marines fighting our war on terror are murderers - proved false, etc.
And on and on and on -SteveL lie after lie, fraud after fraud, con
after con - ALL WITH NIGEL BROOKS BACKING AND CONFIRMATION THAT
"STEVEL NEVER LIES!"
http://tinyurl.com/2ff2cw8 Nigel Brooks key gang member SteveL says
Vietnam Troops Dishonorable and He was against Vietnam War.
http://tinyurl.com/2eq4dha Nigel Brooks key gang member SteveL says
USA murdered people due to its "Business Interests." (Attacks America
Again!)
http://tinyurl.com/2eq4dha Nigel Brooks key gang member SteveL -
says America murdered millions.
http://tinyurl.com/25ryc6y Nigel Brooks key gang member SteveL and
Nigel Brooks voted top Net Kooks. (Recent vote by animals - which are
more credible than any other Kook vote in the history of the
Internet).
http://tinyurl.com/2dxwg4j Nigel Brooks key gang member SteveL -
history and background.
http://tinyurl.com/2d5oakc Nigel Brooks key gang member SteveL - says
our Marines fighting our war on terror are "murderers."
http://tinyurl.com/2g5qszn SteveL says US Troops murdering "Made up"
enemies!
Mark Alexander wrote:
>A borderless nation? The "Islamic World" of the Quran recognizes no
>political borders. Though
>orthodox Muslims (those who subscribe to the teachings of the
>pre-Medina" Quran) do not support acts of terrorism or mass murder,
>very large sects within the Islamic world subscribe to the
>"post-Mecca" Quran and Hadiths (Mohammed's teachings). It is this
>latter group of death-worshipping sects that calls for jihad, or
>"holy war," against all "the enemies of God." They thus constitute an
>enemy without borders a nation of "holy" warriors called
> Jihadistan."
The Nigel Brooks key hate gang member SteveL replied with:
"A made up enemy. The mark of a fascist."
Mark said: " the Bush administration
>determined that Iraq would be a suitable, logical and defensible
>front line with Jihadistan.
The key Nigel Brooks hate gang member replied with:
"Fuck the Iraqi people and their *sovereignty*. *We* want to fight A
war here. So tough."
Mark Said: >Let's be clear: American forces are NOT, first and
foremost, "fighting for Iraq's freedom." They are fighting for U.S.
national-security interests and those of the free world, which was,
and to a lesser degree (thanks to our considerable military
achievements), remains, in great peril. Ultimately, these two
objectives are inextricably bound.
The Key Nigel Brooks hate gang member replied with:
"Yep he's a coward. The most ludicrously overarmed nation in the
world's "national security" is at risk by Saddam.
Fucking liar. So we just invade because it's in our interests to
invade. Just like
Adolf Hitler.
Mark Said:
Our analysts estimate that once the new Iraqi government is seated,
the U.S. will be invited to establish permanent military installations
in southern Iraq.
The Nigel Brooks key hate gang member replied with:
"Estimate?" HAHAHAHA!!! Trust me. The "new Iraqi government" won't be
permitted to say no!!
Enough. Tthe world is really starting to hate the USA."
End.
1. Above we see the Nigel Brooks key hate gang member SteveL (1)
claim that we are attacking Iraq because we want to, (2) claim that
Saddam is not a threat to our national security (3) that President
Bush is a coward (4) that the new Iraqi government will be a puppet
government (5) that the USA leaders are the same as Adolph Hitler (6)
that the world hates America.
Note that Nigel Brooks posted that his best chum and fellow hate gang
member SteveL NEVER LIES! (See below). But I have experiences with
this hate American pro-terrorist anonymous cyberstalking goon for
about ten years - AND I CANNOT FIND WHERE HE HAS EVER TOLD THE TRUTH
ABOUT ME, THE USA, OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE USA WHEN IT COMES TO OUR
WAR ON TERROR.
Add the fact another member of the Nigel Brooks hate gang has boasted
about visiting Muslim Mosques about me, and the obviously pro-radical
Muslim terrorists from this Nigel Brooks hate gang member, and Nigel
Brooks backing of both of those hate gang members, and Brooks claims
that SteveL "never lies" - and one might start to wonder about the
true agenda of the Nigel Brooks hate gang. Hate America Hate real
Vet Hate Troops propaganda perhaps? You be the Judge.
See above for more lying posts SteveL has posted about our troops, our
war on terror, and America in general - which Nigel Brooks says "are
not lies."
Doug Grant (Tm)
SteveL
wrote:
>STEVEL - U.S.A= ADOLPH HITLER!
>
OH stop fucking whining Doug. This is the USA. People have a right to
dissent with aspects of the government and with each other without
being called traitors by peabrained Nazis. Which reminds me. I never
called our troops Nazi's in that argument about summary executions. I
called YOU a Nazi. And you fulfill that role better than anyone
I've ever met - including one or two *real* Nazi's I met in Germany as
a kid.
Fuck off and go jerk yourself off or something.
God you're one sad fucker.
On 29 Jan 2005 06:28:42 -0800, "Clay" <clayo...@lycos.com> wrote:
This Mark Alexander is a fucking lunatic and a coward based on what I
read here.
Let's see.
>Lying about Iraq
>Mark Alexander
>
>January 28, 2005
>
>"Lying to Congress, lying to our committees and lying to the American
>people -- it's wrong, it's immoral." So said self-appointed arbiter of
>truth and morality Sen. Mark Dayton at this week's confirmation
>hearings for Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. (This would be the
>same Minnesota Democrat better known as "Chicken of 10,000 Lakes" for
>his cowardly pre-holiday Beltway skedaddle from a terrorist alert that
>none of his 99 senatorial colleagues bothered to heed. Dayton is up for
>re-election in 2006.)
>
>Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, apparently eyeing a 2008 presidential run,
>inveighed, "The list of errors is lengthy and profound, and
>unfortunately many could have been avoided, had [the Bush
>administration] only listened to [my] counsel." (Speaking of errors,
>this is the same Evan Bayh who, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom,
>declared, "I don't understand those who want to wait until the threat
>[from Iraq] is imminent. The consequences of error could be
>catastrophic.")
>
>Of course, where prevaricators gather, like sharks sensing blood in the
>water, one always finds the portly and pickled Ted Kennedy, who
>provided this insight on the eve of Iraq's first democratic election:
>"We must learn from our mistakes. We must recognize what a large and
>growing number of Iraqis now believe -- the war in Iraq has become a
>war against the American occupation. ... Our military presence has
>become part of the problem, not the solution." Heck, who needs Baghdad
>Bob or Peter Arnett when Kennedy's on the case?
Heck, who needs the truth?
>
>Other Demos joined this tired anti-American Leftist refrain
<bzzt> the old "only the right-wing and Republicans are pro-American
and patriots" one party state mantra.
Fucking fascist.
>, doing what
>they do best -- fomenting division in order to undermine support for
>anything Republican
As opposed to fomenting division by calling anything Democratic
"anti-American"..
Fucking hypocrite.
>, regardless of the consequences. What consequences?
>Not only are these Demos spreading lies and dividing American support
>for critical national-security operations, but their words aid, abet,
>and encourage our enemy to continue killing U.S. service personnel and
>innocent Iraqis -- and on the eve of the first democratic elections in
>Iraq's history. (In fairness to Kennedy, et al., though, America will
>hold democratic mid-term elections in 2006.)
>
>So, just what is the truth about our military operations in and around
>Iraq?
>
>To counter all the Leftist obfuscation about U.S. national security
>interests in the Middle East and to explain the necessity of our
>military presence in the region, what follows is a much-needed primer
>-- not only on why our Armed Forces are in Iraq (and border states),
>but also why they should remain in the region for the foreseeable
>future.
Gee can't wait. You watch, WMDs will be *way* down the list suddenly.
>
>Western democracies, particularly those beacons of liberty (the U.S.
>and our Allies), are at war with Jihadistan, a borderless nation of
>Islamic fascists comprising al-Qa'ida and other Islamist terrorist
>groups and their malcontent sects.
Numbering a few thousand people at most...... And that 's being
generous. Of course because of the unilateral invasion of Iraq and our
admirable efforts at winning hearts and minds over there that figure
probably *has* grown substantially.... Especially when people
resisting the invasion by a foreign power are automatically labled
"terrorists" in these Orwellian times.
>A borderless nation? The "Islamic
>World" of the Quran recognizes no political borders. Though orthodox
>Muslims (those who subscribe to the teachings of the "pre-Medina"
>Quran) do not support acts of terrorism or mass murder, very large
>sects within the Islamic world subscribe to the "post-Mecca" Quran and
>Hadiths (Mohammed's teachings). It is this latter group of
>death-worshipping sects that calls for jihad, or "holy war," against
>all "the enemies of God." They thus constitute an enemy without borders
>-- a nation of "holy" warriors called Jihadistan.
A made up enemy. The mark of a fascist.
>
>While the Bush administration is careful not to paint Islam with a
>broad brush, the correct way to understand this enemy, in order to
>engage and destroy it, is to cast off the historic symmetric-warfare
>model; this enemy is simply not a political entity. As President George
>Bush correctly noted in October of 2001, "Our war on terror begins with
>al-Qa'ida, but it does not end there. It will not end until every
>terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated.
>... This war will not be like the war against Iraq a decade ago, with a
>decisive liberation of territory and a swift conclusion."
>
>Jihadi terrorism (type asymmetric warfare) had its origins with the
>People's Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) almost 40 years
>ago. There, Islamists inflicted terror first against Israel, and then,
>working westward, against democratic targets in Europe. Yet despite
>subsequent attacks on U.S. personnel in that region -- the bombing of
>the Marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983, for example -- it was not until
>1993 that our homeland became a frontline in the war with Jihadistan.
>
>On 26 February, 1993, Pakistani native Ramzi Ahmed Yousef and his
>terrorist brethren (who had entered the United States on Iraqi
>passports under the control of Iraqi intelligence) bombed the north
>tower of the World Trade Center in an effort to topple that tower into
>the south tower and inflict mass civilian casualties. Fortunately, due
>to Ramzi's lack of engineering knowledge, his crude truck-bomb didn't
>topple the building, though it created a six-story crater in the
>parking garage.
>
>Although Ramzi escaped, several other terrorists were captured and
>tried. Ramzi himself was finally arrested in 1995, while formulating
>plans to bomb a number of U.S. international flights simultaneously.
>After 1995, al-Qa'ida Jihadis focused on American targets abroad -- the
>Khobar Towers in 1996, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998,
>and the U.S.S. Cole in 2000 -- all without reprisal from the Clinton
>administration.
>
>In 2001, Ramzi's uncle, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (the number-three thug
>in the al-Qa'ida organization), and Ramzi's mentor, Jihadi sheik Osama
>bin Laden himself, revised Ramzi's plan to use civilian aircraft for
>terrorist ends -- using them as bombs rather than bombing them. On 11
>September of that year, one of al-Qa'ida's U.S. terrorist cells
>finished the business that Ramzi started almost a decade earlier, with
>devastating consequences.
>
>On that Tuesday morning, the American people were awakened to an
>imminent threat to our homeland, and before noon that day, our common
>sense of invincibility had all but vanished. Indeed, given the nature,
>planning and sophistication of the attack, a larger question loomed in
>the minds of all rational people: What moral obstacles would prevent
>surrogate terrorists from using WMD provided by rogue nation states
>under tyrants like Saddam Hussein? What would prevent al-Qa'ida from
>detonating a fissionable weapon in a U.S. urban center?
Fear Fear Fear.
But anyway, what will prevent them now? Nothing. Except we've stirred
up the hornet's nest even more.
>
>That question would have to be answered by President George W. Bush,
>whose administration had been operational for only eight months prior
>to the 9/11 attack -- a period preceded by eight long years of Clinton
>administration inaction and appeasement of terrorists, as repeatedly
>noted in this column during those years.
>
>President Bush determined, correctly, that the war being waged on the
>U.S. and its Allies could not be resolved diplomatically, nor could it
>be won defensively. Al-Qa'ida and other elements of Jihadistan, he
>surmised, could be defeated only by way of pre-emptive strikes, in
>keeping with the dictum of military strategist Carl von Clausewitz:
>"The best form of defense is attack."
>
>In 2001, The Patriot's military and intelligence analysts were out
>front in our characterization of the war with Jihadistan and our
>support for the Bush strategic doctrine of preemption -- taking the
>battle to the enemy.
>
>To that end Sen. Edward Kennedy, never one to miss an opportunity to
>use the deaths of American military personnel as political fodder,
>unwittingly endorsed the Bush Doctrine this week: "The war has made
>Iraq a breeding ground for terrorism...."
>
>Precisely.
>
>The principal objective of President Bush's doctrine of pre-emption --
>Operation Enduring Freedom (or "Operation Let's Roll," as it's known
>around our shop) -- is to keep the front lines of our war with
>Jihadistan on their turf, rather than our own.
It wasn't about UN resolutions or Saddam's WMDs?
Ok let's remember that.
So it's *our* war, not the UN's. And it's for *our* national security.
> Our Armed Forces are the
>most capable, best-trained and best-equipped in history, and they've
>issued a standing invitation to Jihadis worldwide to engage them in
>Iraq, where tens of thousands of these vermin have met their fate.
"Vermin". Say that's what the nazi propaganda movies called the Jews.
There's a lot of non-human imagery from Mark Alexander and his ilk,
and they don't just stop at Arabs. They're starting to use it with
non-republicans as well.
>
>Why Iraq? In 1991, Saddam Hussein signed a binding agreement of
>surrender as a precondition to the cessation of Gulf War hostilities --
>the subsequent violation of which was, in effect, grounds to resume the
>military campaign against Iraq. After a jaw-slackening 17th UN
>resolution to disarm was flouted by Saddam
Gee, how many have Israel breached? Besides, didn't you just say this
was a US operation for US national security? Ah well just can't avoid
trying to cloak yourself in the legitimacy the UN brings even if you
have to steal it in the night by lying about UN authorization, and
even as you bizarrely also claim the UN *has no* legitimacy anyway.
>, the Bush administration
>determined that Iraq would be a suitable, logical and defensible front
>line with Jihadistan.
Fuck the Iraqi people and their *sovereignty*. *We* want to fight a
war here. So tough.
>
>Let's be clear: American forces are NOT, first and foremost, "fighting
>for Iraq's freedom." They are fighting for U.S. national-security
>interests and those of the free world, which was, and to a lesser
>degree (thanks to our considerable military achievements), remains, in
>great peril. Ultimately, these two objectives are inextricably bound.
Yep he's a coward. The most ludicrously overarmed nation in the
world's "national security" is at risk by Saddam.
Fucking liar.
>Our ultimate objective in Iraq is to establish a forward deployed
>presence in the Middle East -- military personnel, but primarily
>equipment -- now that the Saudis have pulled our lease.
So we just invade because it's in our interests to invade. Just like
Adolf Hitler. The gall of this guy.
> Our analysts
>estimate that once the new Iraqi government is seated, the U.S. will be
>invited to establish permanent military installations in southern Iraq.
"Estimate?" HAHAHAHA!!! Trust me. The "new Iraqi government" won't be
permitted to say no!!
<snip>
Enough. This guy is why the world is really starting to hate the USA.
Topaz
"BOTH Republicans AND Democrats are hypocrites and cowards, because
both have sold out America and the American gross domestic product
(GDP) to Israel. The United States does not exist anymore as a
sovereign entity and all our energy, all our societal efforts are
dedicated to supporting Israel first, Israel second, and Israel third.
America is a Jew-ocracy that is run for the Jews, by the Jews, and of
the Jews, because America is a Jewish owned corporation, not a
"democracy." Votes don't matter much here in the USA because
Washington runs on money, not on votes, and Democratic presidential
candidate Senator Hillary Clinton is just as sold out to the Israeli
lobby, AIPAC (the America Israel Public Affairs Committee), as
Republican presidential candidate Senator Bill Frist. Former
president Bill Clinton was sold out, Jimmy Carter was sold out and
later admitted it after he left office, Ronald Reagan was sold out,
all American presidents were sold out going back to JFK..
All our Middle East problems, our vast national debt, our collapsing
economy, and our collapsing standard of living are all directly the
result of our blind support for Israel's illegal ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians from Palestine. Bush used Israeli torture techniques on
Moslems, our leaders have let Israeli agents here in the USA illegally
spy on American citizens, we ignore UN Resolutions that tell Israel
to go retreat to their 1967 borders as international law mandates. We
routinely block the United Nations from taking action against Israel's
illegal activities. We gave Israel plutonium and helped them build
their atomic and hydrogen bombs, we shoveled Israel over 140 billion
in foreign aid since 1950, and we have wasted 3 to 4 trillion dollars
in total on the cult of Zionism since 1950 through the cost of illegal
wars, oil embargoes, foreign aid, and the cost of the strategic oil
reserve. Frankly, the Jews are bleeding America dry and no one is
courageous enough to stand up to the Jews because Jews in America are
the exact equivalent of George Orwell's BIG BROTHER. Jews tell us all
what to do, what we are allowed to think, and what we are allowed to
speak. Jews control our government, dominate our media, and crush any
opposition by slandering those with legitimate and provable complaints
as "anti-Semites."
It must be great to be above criticism and to control the stupid and
dull Christian masses and laugh at them behind their backs and even to
their faces and get no response other than more feet licking, bowing,
and kow towing. George Bush is a useful idiot, a water carrier for
the Jews just as Hillary Clinton will be if elected president. Both
Iraq wars were started for the Jews and by the Jews. All our
politicians are a disgrace and we will never regain our sovereignty,
solve our foreign policy problems, or balance our budget until we end
our slavish allegiance to the immoral, racist, murdering, torturing,
lying, stealing, manipulating cult nation of Israel.
The Holocaust business feeds the Zionist cult and Hollywood has
deified Jews while vilifying Moslems...
Our nation is a lying, hypocritical mess and the world hates us
because the world knows we are a nation of morons run by Jews. Where
are the brave and honest Americans who speak with one face, not two?
Americans are defeated, weak, foolish, and can't even speak out
because they are scared like little girls, unable to even speak the
word "Jew" unless in praise or on bended knees. Imagine if Catholics
or Moonies or the Mafia had that much control in America! Jews are
not above the law and Jews can be opposed for their real world crimes
just like anyone else. Our brains are frozen by decades of media
programming and propaganda so that now we cannot even speak the "J
word." Political correctness, which was invented by Jews as a form of
mind control, prevents Americans from being fully human. We are a
nation of slaves, licking Jewish feet day after day and we never get
tired of it. It's a sad and pathetic situation and we are a sad and
pathetic people who deserve the contempt of the world because we have
no backbone and no honesty.
The United Kingdom is little better than the USA because Tony Blair is
a rabid Christian Zionist himself and most of his top advisors are
Jews. Much of Europe is sold out and controlled by Jews and the cult
of Zionism has Western leaders by the testicles, frozen and unable to
fight back. Now is the time to speak up, to fight back, and to do it
legally, responsibly, and effectively. Just decide that from now on
Jews have no special privileges in your brain and that you can
criticize Jews just like Republicans, Democrats, Catholics, Moonies,
or any other group. Jews act as a 90% unified group, commit crimes as
a 90% unified group, and control America as a 90% unified group, and
thus deserve to be criticized as a 90% unified group. Being able to
criticize those who do harm is what democracy means and is exactly
what freedom of thought means. Become a fully functioning human being
and not just another mind controlled blob of useless DNA!"
inkyblacks
http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
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http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/
DGVREIMAN
End disclaimer.
Mark Alexander wrote:
>A borderless nation? The "Islamic World" of the Quran recognizes no
>political borders. Though
>orthodox Muslims (those who subscribe to the teachings of the
>pre-Medina" Quran) do not support acts of terrorism or mass murder,
>very large sects within the Islamic world subscribe to the
>"post-Mecca" Quran and Hadiths (Mohammed's teachings). It is this
>latter group of death-worshipping sects that calls for jihad, or
>"holy war," against all "the enemies of God." They thus constitute an
>enemy without borders a nation of "holy" warriors called
> Jihadistan."
The Nigel Brooks key hate gang member SteveL replied with:
"A made up enemy. The mark of a fascist."
Mark said: " the Bush administration
>determined that Iraq would be a suitable, logical and defensible
>front line with Jihadistan.
The key Nigel Brooks hate gang member replied with:
"Fuck the Iraqi people and their *sovereignty*. *We* want to fight A
war here. So tough."
Mark Said: >Let's be clear: American forces are NOT, first and
foremost, "fighting for Iraq's freedom." They are fighting for U.S.
national-security interests and those of the free world, which was,
and to a lesser degree (thanks to our considerable military
achievements), remains, in great peril. Ultimately, these two
objectives are inextricably bound.
The Key Nigel Brooks hate gang member replied with:
"Yep he's a coward. The most ludicrously overarmed nation in the
world's "national security" is at risk by Saddam.
Fucking liar. So we just invade because it's in our interests to
invade. Just like Adolf Hitler.
Mark Said:
Our analysts estimate that once the new Iraqi government is seated,
the U.S. will be invited to establish permanent military installations
in southern Iraq.
The Nigel Brooks key hate gang member replied with:
"Estimate?" HAHAHAHA!!! Trust me. The "new Iraqi government" won't be
permitted to say no!!
MAC
wrote:
>STEVEL - U.S.A= ADOLPH HITLER!
Snip Doug Grant's Latest Accusation...
***********************************************
And, once again, Doug Grant continues his threats regarding
lawsuits and does not provide the name of the alleged attorneys, the
date they allegedly "filed" the documents, the jurisdiction of the
Court, the Court document numbers... and, of course, although he
claims such was done, he still has not provided the officer contacted
and the location of the institutions he loudly proclaimed he
contacted... i.e., the office of a U.S. Attorney, the office of the
F.B.I., etc., etc., etc.
Says quite a bit regarding his usual threats and manner of
operating.
-Mac, the Medic