STEVEL - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PROPAGANDA!
DGVREIMAN
Naive? There's Newspeak for you. You call cynical naive?
1. It's certainly less naive than the "We are always good. They are
always Evil" propaganda crap that you've been brainwashed with since
your first Pledge of Allegiance.
SteveL
Doug Says: Nigel Brooks says his key hate gang member SteveL never
lies. So do you agree with Nigel Brooks and SteveL that our Pledge of
Allegiance is "propaganda?"
Doug Grant (Tm)
SteveL
wrote:
Gee Doug. All these smear threads and not one word of support from
anyone.
A normal person would stop and wonder if he should reconsider his
approach. Not you, right Doogie? You're on such a righteous quest that
nothing will stop you and before long you'll be taking the posts of
complete strangers and claiming I posted them under various aliases,
because a higher truth is at stake........
Of course you should be totally ashamed of yourself, passing off other
people's posts as mine, and totally skewing the meaning of the few
posts I actually did write.
But we all know you're just a defeated shameless kook.
Alt.Usenet.Kooks honors
Douglas "Doogie" Grant aka DGVREIMAN
Kook of the Month, December 1998
Looney Maroon Award, September 1999
Looney Maroon Award, April 2001
Unabomber Surprise, March 2006
Busted Urinal Award, May 2007.
Richard M. Nixon Memorial "Pathological Liar" Award
(nominated Aug 2007)
Douglas Grant Medal For Historical Revisionism,
December 2007
(1st winner of award named in his honor)
Kook of the Year, 2007 (Runner Up by 3 votes)
Tony Sidaway Drama Queen Award, April 2008
Balsa Gavel, April 2008
Bolo Bolus Foam Duck, May 2008
Kook of the Year 2008.
And Liar.
"Josh I fought in Nicaragua I know that Jungle well."
"In respect to your claim of "carpet bombing" Cambodia, well dum
dum, I was in Cambodia during the Vietnam war and the only
"Carpet Bombing" occurred on the Ho Chi Minh trail."
" 2&1/2 tours in Vietnam, one tour in Korea, and one tour in
South America probably makes me an expert on war and terrorism"
"Colin, you have not seen such films unless they were produced for
propaganda purposes. When I was in Vietnam little children were
given toe poppers (small mines) hidden in cigarette packages,
then they were told by the Communists to give this nice gift to
the American GI's as they passed by their village. I will never
forget the day when a little smiling girl no more than 4 or 5
years old started walking towards me trying to give me a pack of
cigarettes. I was forced to shoot her. I am sure some Viet Cong
somewhere was filming that incident, and the many similar
incidents they forced every day by arming their innoncent
children."
"Doug Says: Whatever that means above only you would know. I
have a PhD., speak five languages and I have lived all over the
world. In respect to your fascination with child molestation,
well whatever your Communist genes tell you to do is none of my
business."
"I spent 30 years in the Military. First the US Marine Corps,
then the United States Army. My last command was a MI command.
What I watched (on TV) in respect to the Falklands was a
conspicuous absence of close air support. "
"Doug Says: I have a Purple Heart also, and I received mine in a
real war, I can't imagine where you got yours since you have
never fought in a war."
Nigel Brooks
"SteveL" <stev...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:0_idnf4AweJyWRvR...@giganews.com...
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 01:22:54 -0700, "DGVREIMAN" <dgvr...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>http://tinyurl.com/24cv6da STEVEL - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PROPAGANDA!
>>
>>Naive? There's Newspeak for you. You call cynical naive?
>>1. It's certainly less naive than the "We are always good. They are
>>always Evil" propaganda crap that you've been brainwashed with since
>>your first Pledge of Allegiance.
>>
>>SteveL
>>
>>Doug Says: Nigel Brooks says his key hate gang member SteveL never
>>lies. So do you agree with Nigel Brooks and SteveL that our Pledge of
>>Allegiance is "propaganda?"
>>
>>Doug Grant (Tm)
>
> Gee Doug. All these smear threads and not one word of support from
> anyone.
>
> A normal person would stop and wonder if he should reconsider his
> approach. Not you, right Doogie? You're on such a righteous quest that
> nothing will stop you and before long you'll be taking the posts of
> complete strangers and claiming I posted them under various aliases,
> because a higher truth is at stake........
>
> Of course you should be totally ashamed of yourself, passing off other
> people's posts as mine, and totally skewing the meaning of the few
> posts I actually did write.
He's been doing it for years (US District Court - District of New Jersey,
and Third Circuit Court of Appeals)
"Plaintiffs attempt at length to skew the logical interpretation of this
statute and the relevant regulatory history leading to its passage"
and
"Appellants attempt at length to skew the plain meaning of this regulation
and the relevant regulatory history"
and
"We are disturbed that appellants have couched their arguments in dramatic
hyperbole obfuscating the real issues. Indeed, we are satisfied that the
appellants have mischaracterized the facts."
DGVREIMAN
"SteveL" <stev...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:0_idnf4AweJyWRvR...@giganews.com...
> <dgvr...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>http://tinyurl.com/24cv6da STEVEL - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
>>PROPAGANDA!
>>
>>Naive? There's Newspeak for you. You call cynical naive?
>>1. It's certainly less naive than the "We are always good. They are
>>always Evil" propaganda crap that you've been brainwashed with since
>>your first Pledge of Allegiance.
>>
>>SteveL
>>
>>Doug Says: Nigel Brooks says his key hate gang member SteveL never
>>lies. So do you agree with Nigel Brooks and SteveL that our Pledge
>>of
>>Allegiance is "propaganda?"
>>
>>Doug Grant (Tm)
>
> Gee Doug. All these smear threads and not one word of support from
> anyone.
> A normal person would stop and wonder if he should reconsider his
> approach. Not you, right Doogie? You're on such a righteous quest
> that
> nothing will stop you and before long you'll be taking the posts of
> complete strangers and claiming I posted them under various aliases,
> because a higher truth is at stake........
My standard disclaimer applies:
Doug's rebuttal: Mr. SteveL - you use fake names, you lie about your
identity, you lie about your lawyers, you lie about me, and if someone
wants to support your hate America propaganda of course that is their
choice.
I asked all above if they agreed with you and Nigel Brooks about your
claim the Pledge of Allegience is "evil propaganda crap" I have yet
to hear back from anyone about any agreement with you? Apparently,
your claims of not posting under the accounts you clearly posted under
is not selling very well - and as more proof is revealed you are going
to find yourself deeper and deeper in your denials.
I have posted the name of the account you have used to post, your
hate America diatribe, and I have provided irrefutable proof you
used that account. Your pathetic lies trying to duck your past hate
America posts simply are fraudulent, as are your lies below.
>
> Of course you should be totally ashamed of yourself, passing off
> other
> people's posts as mine, and totally skewing the meaning of the few
> posts I actually did write.
Doug Says: I did not pass off any posts as yours you did not write,
and I skewed nothing. If you disagree please provide your real name
and evidence you did not write under other accounts other than the
ntlworld account which you fraudulently claimed was your exclusive
account. I also notice you cannot refute a word I said about your
posts as they were based upon your own in context words and phrases.
All you have done is post your typical personal attacks to deflect
from what you did say, which is your style when you are running from
the truth.
>
> But we all know you're just a defeated shameless kook.
The only Kook vote that ever took place is listed below. All of your
Kook accusations about me are false. There is no record of any Kook
vote even resembling what you claim. More obvious fraud from SteveL.
However, there is a record of the Kook vote about you and Nigel below:
>
> Alt.Usenet.Kooks honors
http://tinyurl.com/25ryc6y NEW KOOK VOTE JUST IN!
http://tinyurl.com/25utbje Key Kook Rebuttal - No Kook Votes Took
Place!
>
> And Liar.
>
> "Josh I fought in Nicaragua I know that Jungle well."
Proof that is a lie please - no? SteveL obvious liar? We all know I
was in Central/South America with a security force.
>
> "In respect to your claim of "carpet bombing" Cambodia, well dum
> dum, I was in Cambodia during the Vietnam war and the only
> "Carpet Bombing" occurred on the Ho Chi Minh trail."
Doug Says: Proof the above is a lie - SteveL was not even in the US
MIlitary not to mention in Vietnam! What a con man! How can he say
what I did every day while I was in Vietnam? He does not have a
clue - just cons as this passage clearly proves.
>
> " 2&1/2 tours in Vietnam, one tour in Korea, and one tour in
> South America probably makes me an expert on war and terrorism"
Doug Says: Of course it does - proof it doesn't? No? What a con man
SteveL is!
>
> "Colin, you have not seen such films unless they were produced for
> propaganda purposes. When I was in Vietnam little children were
> given toe poppers (small mines) hidden in cigarette packages,
> then they were told by the Communists to give this nice gift to
> the American GI's as they passed by their village. I will never
> forget the day when a little smiling girl no more than 4 or 5
> years old started walking towards me trying to give me a pack of
> cigarettes. I was forced to shoot her. I am sure some Viet Cong
> somewhere was filming that incident, and the many similar
> incidents they forced every day by arming their innoncent
> children."
Doug Says: Yep, nice fictional account. So? Your point? Known
fiction is not lying - pathetic attempt to distort fiction into an
intended non-fiction then claim I lied about it! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
What a moron!
>
> "Doug Says: Whatever that means above only you would know. I
> have a PhD., speak five languages and I have lived all over the
> world. In respect to your fascination with child molestation,
> well whatever your Communist genes tell you to do is none of my
> business."
Doug Says: So? Where is the proof that is a lie? SteveL obviously
is caught in mid con again.
>
> "I spent 30 years in the Military. First the US Marine Corps,
> then the United States Army. My last command was a MI command.
> What I watched (on TV) in respect to the Falklands was a
> conspicuous absence of close air support. "
Doug Says: I published about 30,000 posts. so far. Even with the
standard 5% error factor assumed, that means about 1500 of them would
contain typos, errors, poorly written exchanges, etc.. the 30 years
was a typo, I have posted and corrected that 30 down to 10 (nearest
decade) about fifty times. I even removed the post from the Google
archive to remidy the error. SteveL dug it back out of my waste
basket and claims I intended to post the 30 years - if that is true
(1) why did I correct it, and (2) why did I discard it (3) where is
any coboroation that I said 30 years at least one more time instead of
the dozens of times I listed my total service including reserve
rounded to the nearest decade of ten years? Everything else in the
post is of course true as the following post clearly proves.
http://tinyurl.com/8us2p3 MI and Recruiting information.
>
> "Doug Says: I have a Purple Heart also, and I received mine in a
> real war, I can't imagine where you got yours since you have
> never fought in a war."
Doug Says: We all know the term after Purple Heart Card is supposed
to be "Card" - but SteveL hides that term so as to present his typical
deception and fraud by his normal lies by omission. Here are the
facts about that post that SteveL is of course desperate to hide.
(Removing key words from posts and thereby changing the context is a
typical Nigel Brooks hate gang tactic). See the posts below for
irrefutable proof SteveL has been caught deliberately removing key
words so as to provide a false context of what I said:
http://tinyurl.com/27mb3y8 Who Should You Believe - Con Men or Real
NCO Vets?
http://tinyurl.com/2g4rwxt Brooks posts that I told Chip in my Feb
2003 purple heart card exchange that "I did not believe he had ever
seen a shot fired in anger in his life" - (no combat).
http://tinyurl.com/23ca6pk SteveL references his gang member Jim M
asking me if I meant Purple Heart Medals in my Feb 2003 reply to Chip,
and I reply with "that is a complete distortion of the facts." This
retort was within about 30 days of the Feb 2003 reply to Chip, which
clearly proves without any question my intent was NOT to produce any
implication nor context that indicated in any manner that I was
talking about Purple Heart Medals, but in fact was referencing the
Purple Heart Cards that I also confirmed with the true context about
90 days later in yet another exchange with Chip.
http://tinyurl.com/2aenszf March 31, 2003 - I repeat that Chip was
not a combat veteran. I obviously never believed he was, and just as
obviously I could not have agreed that he possessed a purple heart
medal - that would be impossible without combat.
"It is important to Chirppy to claim that he is opposed to the war
> and is also a veteran. Of course Chirppy is not a combat veteran,
> and his desk jockey Marine Corp's job is usually filled with BAM'
> s (female Marines) or civilians. That is about all Chirppy knows,
"
SteveL lies, and when his hate America propaganda posts are revealed
for what they clearly are, he attacks those that prove his
hate-America agenda with personal attacks laced with fraud, false
accusations, lies by omission, and general hate - which he believes
will shield him from others learning the truth about his hate-America
propaganda crusade - but any rational reader knows his game by now.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Tankfixer
dgvr...@comcast.net says...
> Doug's rebuttal: Mr. SteveL - you use fake names, you lie about your
> identity, you lie about your lawyer
>
You owe me an Irony meter Mr Reiman !
Pay up forthwith or suffer the consequences..