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D Barrett6

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Feb 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/13/96
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I am curious if there was a special force of U.S.A. soldier
during the Vietnam war called the RED BERET.
If so, what division of the military were they in?
What was their mission?

Any info would be greatly appreciated!!!

Craig Thompson

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Feb 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/13/96
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dbar...@aol.com (D Barrett6)
wrote:
> .

Red berets (actually more of a maroon) are generally worn by paratroopers.
Not authorized for use by US troops during my tour though.

BTW Soviet block Airborne forces wore a light blue beret not so different
than the one's the UN forces wear now.

Craig Thompson
173d Airborne
RVN 68-69

RThomas

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Feb 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/15/96
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Craig Thompson <thom...@super.zippo.com> wrote:

>dbar...@aol.com (D Barrett6)
>wrote:
>> I am curious if there was a special force of U.S.A. soldier
>> during the Vietnam war called the RED BERET.
>> If so, what division of the military were they in?
>> What was their mission?
>>
>> Any info would be greatly appreciated!!!
>> .

>Red berets (actually more of a maroon) are generally worn by paratroopers.
>Not authorized for use by US troops during my tour though.

I remember some Air Force para-rescues wearing red berets, or was that
only post-VN?


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RThomas (r...@sirius.com)


Monte Olsen

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Feb 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/15/96
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Actually, some pathfinders also wore red caps but didn't wear red
berets.

Monte

Steven Grzesik

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Feb 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/15/96
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In <3120AE...@super.zippo.com> Craig Thompson

<thom...@super.zippo.com> writes:
>
>dbar...@aol.com (D Barrett6)
>wrote:
>> I am curious if there was a special force of U.S.A. soldier
>> during the Vietnam war called the RED BERET.
>> If so, what division of the military were they in?
>> What was their mission?
>>
>> Any info would be greatly appreciated!!!
>> .

The red (maroon) beret was originally designated for the 75th Rangers
in Vietnam in 1969, when all LRRP units became designated Ranger. In
1971, the black beret replaced it. It is the same one used today.
Steve 75th Rangers Vietnam

RThomas

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Feb 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/16/96
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Craig Thompson <thom...@super.zippo.com> wrote:

>dbar...@aol.com (D Barrett6)
>wrote:
>> I am curious if there was a special force of U.S.A. soldier
>> during the Vietnam war called the RED BERET.
>> If so, what division of the military were they in?
>> What was their mission?
>>
>> Any info would be greatly appreciated!!!
>> .

>Red berets (actually more of a maroon) are generally worn by paratroopers.

Steven Grzesik

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Feb 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/17/96
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In <4fp9qh$n...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> dbar...@aol.com (D Barrett6)
writes:
>
>I am curious if there was a special force of U.S.A. soldier
>during the Vietnam war called the RED BERET.
>If so, what division of the military were they in?
>What was their mission?
>
>Any info would be greatly appreciated!!!
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Hey, I told you already. I was one. In 1969 all LRRP units in 'Nam were
designated 75th Ranger and incorporated into company sized units. The
official headgear was the maroon (red) beret.
In 1971 it was changed to black, which it remains to this day.
Steve

Adrien Antoniol

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Feb 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/21/96
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In article <4ge2ct$a...@cloner4.netcom.com>, ran...@ix.netcom.com(Steven Grzesik ) says:
>


I am new to the thing, so excuse all my wrong doings and idiot questions.
Could somebody help me understand the military rank terminology :
e.g. what is an E6 or an O3 ?
Concerning the vietnam war what does S.O.G. stand for in MACV-SOG ?

thanks

Adrien ANTONIOL
anto...@ulb.ac.be

"The only easy day was yesterday"
Navy Seals Motto

Steven Grzesik

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Feb 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/21/96
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In <4g4vd9$o...@reader2.ix.netcom.com> ran...@ix.netcom.com(Steven

Grzesik ) writes:
>
>In <4fp9qh$n...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> dbar...@aol.com (D Barrett6)
>writes:
>>
>>I am curious if there was a special force of U.S.A. soldier
>>during the Vietnam war called the RED BERET.
>>If so, what division of the military were they in?
>>What was their mission?
>>
>>Any info would be greatly appreciated!!!
>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

>Hey, I told you already. I was one. In 1969 all LRRP units in 'Nam

Steven Grzesik

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Feb 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/21/96
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In <3124BB...@super.zippo.com> Craig Thompson
<thom...@super.zippo.com> writes:
>
>ran...@ix.netcom.com(Steven Grzesik )
>writes:

>>
>> The red (maroon) beret was originally designated for the 75th
Rangers
>> in Vietnam in 1969, when all LRRP units became designated Ranger. In
>> 1971, the black beret replaced it. It is the same one used today.
>> Steve 75th Rangers Vietnam
>> .
>
>After my time. The Ranger cadre at Ranger School wore black berets at
least
>while I was at Benning. 10/67-3/68 and 7/69-6/70.
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Yes, that was just before the official changeover in Nam on 1/1/69
under C.A.R.S.< (some kind of authorization mumbo jumbo)
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

>Instructors at Jump School (moi -- Ground Week) wore black baseball
caps.
>
>Riggers wore red baseball caps.
>
>In Vietnam (in the field), my unit (173d Airborne) generally wore
standard
>O.D. colored boonie hats or steel pots with standard camo covers.
>
>The airborne beret looks sharp but the only thing that really counts
is that
>patch you could put on your right shoulder when you came home (meaning
no
>disrepect to our USMC, USN, USAF brothers).
>
>It ain't clothes that make the man.
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
I beg to differ. It's a small scrap of cloth, sometimes, that
differentiates a soldier from others that did not volunteer for
particularly hazardous duty. The wings you wear on Veterans Day are an
example of this. Steve
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>Craig Thompson 11B4P
>B 2/503d 173d Airborne Brigade
>6-68 to 6-69


Leslie S. Holloway

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Feb 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/21/96
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Adrien Antoniol (anto...@ulb.ac.be) wrote:

: I am new to the thing, so excuse all my wrong doings and idiot questions.


: Could somebody help me understand the military rank terminology :
: e.g. what is an E6 or an O3 ?

I will post a table of ranks to the group. It's a bit long ....

: Concerning the vietnam war what does S.O.G. stand for in MACV-SOG ?

Studies and Operations Group. Innocuous-sounding title, yes?


Tom Holloway
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Craig Thompson

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Feb 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/22/96
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In article <4geji8$d...@rc1.vub.ac.be>, anto...@ulb.ac.be writes...

>
>In article <4ge2ct$a...@cloner4.netcom.com>, ran...@ix.netcom.com(Steven Gr
>zesik ) says:
>>
>
>
>I am new to the thing, so excuse all my wrong doings and idiot questions.
>Could somebody help me understand the military rank terminology :
>e.g. what is an E6 or an O3 ?
>Concerning the vietnam war what does S.O.G. stand for in MACV-SOG ?
>
>thanks
>
>Adrien ANTONIOL
>anto...@ulb.ac.be
>
>"The only easy day was yesterday"
>Navy Seals Motto
>

O = officer
E = enlisted

O3 = Captain in the Army, Air Force, Marines - Lieutenant in the Navy
E6 = Staff sergeant (I was one) or Specialist 6 in the Army.

SOG = Special Operations Group
sometimes called Study and Observation Group (but that was just cover).

Craig

dou...@gmail.com

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May 25, 2016, 11:24:23 PM5/25/16
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My dad was 173rd airborne also.. He passed away about 5 yrs ago but he was always proud to wear that.

Stumpy the Wander Mule

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May 25, 2016, 11:31:39 PM5/25/16
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On 5/25/2016 10:24 PM, dou...@gmail.com wrote:
> My dad was 173rd airborne also.. He passed away about 5 yrs ago but he was always proud to wear that.
>
was it red or maroon...? red was worn by advisors to Vietnamese
maroon didn't become standard until after the war I believe.

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dino

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May 25, 2016, 11:41:45 PM5/25/16
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In article <ni5qfg$e13$1...@dont-email.me>, Stumpy the Wander Mule says...
>
>On 5/25/2016 10:24 PM, dou...@gmail.com wrote:
>>My dad was 173rd airborne also.. He passed away about 5 yrs ago but he was
>>always proud to wear that.
>>
>was it red or maroon...? red was worn by advisors to Vietnamese
>maroon didn't become standard until after the war I believe.

Didn't have it when I was with the Herd.

Eris

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May 26, 2016, 12:53:09 AM5/26/16
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I was an adviser and I wore a fatigue hat. Clerk typist had the cool floppy camo hats with the drawstrings.

Stumpy the Wander Mule

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May 26, 2016, 7:47:31 AM5/26/16
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the advisors for ARVN rangers wore a red or maroon hat. regular
advisors kitted out like the rest of us. in 72 the Green Berets were
officially no longer in Vietnam but carried on wearing black baseball
caps. they still wore the patches and insignia except when over the fence.

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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May 26, 2016, 8:50:25 AM5/26/16
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On 5/25/2016 8:31 PM, Stumpy the Wander Mule wrote:
> On 5/25/2016 10:24 PM, dou...@gmail.com wrote:
>> My dad was 173rd airborne also.. He passed away about 5 yrs ago but he
>> was always proud to wear that.
>>
> was it red or maroon...? red was worn by advisors to Vietnamese maroon
> didn't become standard until after the war I believe.
>
Who you calling a maroon, sailor?

Jack G.

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May 26, 2016, 9:54:47 AM5/26/16
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LOL You have no clue on what they are talking about.

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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May 27, 2016, 8:56:02 AM5/27/16
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LOL, Jack. The yoke went over yer head.

Jack G.

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May 27, 2016, 11:41:58 AM5/27/16
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There is no place for yokes on this thread. Just sit back and learn
something.

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