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Aria Dave

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Jun 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/19/99
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I was with Alfa 1/7 CUPP (Combined Unit Pacification Program).

Dave
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CUITH

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Jun 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/20/99
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>I was with Alfa 1/7 CUPP (Combined Unit Pacification Program).
>
>Dave

Do you recall a Marine by the name of Bill Friend? He had served
with the CUPP's out of LZ Baldy(7th Marines).

Doc Lutes, CAP's

Aria Dave

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Jun 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/20/99
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Doc Lutes asked:

>Do you recall a Marine by the name of Bill Friend? He had served
>with the CUPP's out of LZ Baldy(7th Marines).
>
That name sounds familiar, but I don't believe he was in my squad. My CUPP
squad was just north of Baldy along the road. I think there was 9 squads, 4
north of Baldy and 5 along the way between LZ Baldy & LZ Ross. Best thing
about CUPP after being in line companies was the frequency of resupply. We
never had it so good in the bush.

Dave (Alfa CUPP 1/7)

CUITH

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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Dave said:
>That name sounds familiar, but I don't believe he was in my squad. My CUPP
>squad was just north of Baldy along the road. I think there was 9 squads

Are you planning on attending the CAP unit reunion in November in
San Diego this year? We have a few CUPP veterans that attend and
Bill will attend also. He is very interested in finding what CUPP unit
he served in and hopefully run into some old friends.

There were some Army Vet's that also served in the CUPP units.

Semper Fi

Doc Lutes

pat...@memes.com

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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On 21 Jun 1999 19:45:07 GMT, cu...@aol.com (CUITH) wrote:

There were cupp, there were cap, but do you know what they were called
before they got organized? I am talking 65 and early 66. I think our
village was called Le Mai and we were an experiment for what was to
follow as "The Plan".

I might just trip on down to Hotel Circle in San Diego this year and
see what it is this year.

Aria Dave

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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I'm lucky to be able to afford to get back & forth to work. Dan Diego is
many thousands of miles further than I can afford. I have not been in San
Diego sonce 1968.
I've for many years wanted to get in contact with anyone I knew from then,
but no luck so far.

pmartin

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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If any one go's to Dago and you go on the ' Star of India ' , see if a
cannon from
Ft.Niagara is still there, say nothing as we are trying to get stolen
artifacts back. It was green 7',says found by divers, BS,it a land cannon.
Has G over R, as in George Rules.Some stuff was sold by a lowlife here.
Thanks

pat...@memes.com wrote in article <37719c9c....@news.memes.com>...

CUITH

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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Patrick wrote:
>There were cupp, there were cap, but do you know what they were called
>before they got organized?

They were known as CAC (Combined Action Company). The 4th
Marines had alot to do with it. During 65 and 66 they were kind of the
bastard children. They had to take hand outs from whatever large unit was in
the area. There was no logistical support set in place for
the CAC units during that time frame. Not until Lt.Col Corson arrived
in late 66. Alot of heroism by the older one's of the CAC's, but a
very very small percentage saw any decorations for heroism for the
CAC's had no TO&E, no real chain of Command.

CAC changed to CACO(Vietnamese word for cock is CAC) in
67.

So, if any of you who served with 3rd Bn/4th Marines in 65 recall
a Capt. John J. Mullen, he is the brain child behind the CAP program,
using the Marine Corps own history.

The Americal Divison started assigning squads for CUPP duties in
Oct of 69 in Quang Ngai Province.


>
>I might just trip on down to Hotel Circle in San Diego this year and
>see what it is this year.

Come on down. We are staying at the Hacienda Hotel in Old Town.

Semper Fi

Doc Lutes

pat...@memes.com

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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On 22 Jun 1999 01:23:55 GMT, cu...@aol.com (CUITH) wrote:

I went back to Okinawa for awhile with some of those guys for
something, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was for,
but I have dozens of pictures from the vill we were at before I went
back for some kind of training. It is a big file, but I am going to
post it and maybe some of you guys will recognize someone in the pic.

I am on the top row, I think it goes Senior Corpsman, Doc McCormack,
Andy Anderson, yours truly (Hughes) and then Doc Wilkerson
When we went back over, some went to alpha, some to Charlie and I
don't know where the rest of them went.

pat...@memes.com

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:14:35 GMT, pat...@memes.com wrote:

I found the verbose of the Navy Unit Citation and they called in
Combined Action Forces, so I guess that would be CAF in oldspeak.

Let me know the details of when San Diego trip is, and I will put my
affairs in order if I can.


>On 21 Jun 1999 19:45:07 GMT, cu...@aol.com (CUITH) wrote:
>
>There were cupp, there were cap, but do you know what they were called

>before they got organized? I am talking 65 and early 66. I think our
>village was called Le Mai and we were an experiment for what was to
>follow as "The Plan".
>

>I might just trip on down to Hotel Circle in San Diego this year and
>see what it is this year.
>

Aria Dave

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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Still have not found my notes on the CUPP. Since I was a Corpsman, have a
small notebook of my entire team from the time we were inserted till I left
(with a wide assortment of tropical diseases). It was a good team.

Dave (Alpha CUPP 1/7)

CUITH

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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Patrick:

Yep, that was for Combined Action Forces, headquartered in Danang.
It officially became part of III MAF in late 66. There is also a Presidential
Unit Citation awarded to CAF for their stand during Tet
of 68.

The Reunion is from Nov 4-11 and the location is:

Best Western Hacienda
4041 Harney St.
San Diego, CA
Phone: 619-298-4707

Single and Double rate: $95.00 per night(state you're with the CAP
reunion)
Reservations must be made by 30 Aug 1999.

Well, right now I have to catch a flight to Portland Oregon this morning for a
seminar tomorrow for my job.

Semper Fi

Doc Lutes

pat...@memes.com

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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On 22 Jun 1999 12:54:38 GMT, cu...@aol.com (CUITH) wrote:

When we first got there, we did a lot of experimenting I think. We
used to do these Deputy Dawg Patrols for instance. A squad would
saunter through the neighboring villes and dogpatch and get to know
who was a local and who just rode into town.

That kind of evolved into a daily bitch session for the villagers and
sick calls. Then we started to take two or three squads and help fix
things around the ville. Sometime in 66', all that changed because we
started using choppers more to get out on search and destroy and leave
maybe a squad to guard our area.

I thought the program was pretty good, we had it made until DaNang
started getting some serious civil unrest, protests, strafing by SVN
air forces and things like that, then we started getting more and more
suspicious. When we went North to Khe Sahn, we were in serious Indian
Country and didn't have no truck with the locals except to try and get
them away from the wire and to safety, but it was a free fire zone and
that concept was pretty foreign to Bru.

One of the reasons I am really interested in getting my records is
because I can't remember a lot of things, but some of those kids I
still remember after all these years. I didn't think we were CAP, but
I knew from the job description and the NUC they had a name for us
during that time.

herrera....@gmail.com

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Aug 21, 2016, 8:35:28 AM8/21/16
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I was with Alpha 1/7 CUPP 2-4 from the on set of the program til our squad run into several booby traps at a small hill just at the border of the ville we were assigned to (soon called the area "booby trap knoll"). Every one in our squad got wounded and medevac except me. CUPP 4 cmdr pulled me into the CP for awhile til Alpha Co XO asked for me to be the personnel effects man in the rear. I did that for several weeks til I got tired of the bureaucracy of being back in the rear. So I went back out to CUPP 4 CP to be the Plt resupply man and did that til I rotated in Sep 70.

Cpl Austin Johnson, I saw some pictures you have posted on here so I take it you made it through in spite of your wounds.

This is A. "CHING" Herrera, gunner CUPP 2-4.

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Aug 21, 2016, 9:04:26 AM8/21/16
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You okay little feller?

Armenian War Library

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Aug 21, 2016, 9:15:26 AM8/21/16
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dont recall him posting here but his name is on this list

http://1stbn4thmarines.net/roster/mpr_69/j.htm

--
good to be home as long as it ain't the nursing home..."they called him
'big nuts' and he warn't from around here."

Jack G.

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Aug 21, 2016, 10:33:42 AM8/21/16
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It is nice to have some real people posting here but I am
sure some of the local loons will give them a ration of shit.

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Aug 21, 2016, 10:35:57 AM8/21/16
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Jack, up on the wrong side again?

MarcusAurelius

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Aug 21, 2016, 1:42:53 PM8/21/16
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Thank you for your military service in Vietnam. It looks, from your ribbons, that you were awarded the Vietnamese Civil Action unit citation first class with palm (exact wording may not be correct). As your post suggest such civil actions were extremely effective in gaining civilian and military support for the Allied Cause in Vietnam. I was, also, awarded this ribbon. I suggested to my platoon sergeant that our unit visit local villages,do medical visits, provide food, clothes, magazines, and toys to the villages as well as to fraternize with them. I thought that the same would be a polite means to introduce ourselves to them and to gain their support. We got support from "higher" and did the same. I won't go into detail. However, it was extremely effective in obtaining Vietnamese and military support for the allied cause in Vietnam. The NVA were so angry at our success that they deliberately sought out battle with our particular unit in order to obliterate it!

Armenian War Library

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Aug 21, 2016, 5:15:13 PM8/21/16
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JarHeads can handle the shit no matter what was handed them. oohrah!!!

Armenian War Library

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Aug 21, 2016, 5:25:29 PM8/21/16
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On 8/21/2016 12:42 PM, MarcusAurelius wrote:
> Thank you for your military service in Vietnam. It looks, from your ribbons, that you were awarded the Vietnamese Civil Action unit citation first class with palm (exact wording may not be correct). As your post suggest such civil actions were extremely effective in gaining civilian and military support for the Allied Cause in Vietnam. I was, also, awarded this ribbon. I suggested to my platoon sergeant that our unit visit local villages,do medical visits, provide food, clothes, magazines, and toys to the villages as well as to fraternize with them. I thought that the same would be a polite means to introduce ourselves to them and to gain their support. We got support from "higher" and did the same. I won't go into detail. However, it was extremely effective in obtaining Vietnamese and military support for the allied cause in Vietnam. The NVA were so angry at our success that they deliberately sought out battle with our particular unit in order to obliterate it!
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the 4th ID was happy to deal with those rabblehousers...Pleiku was
pretty tame even after Camp Enari became ARVN (if they even
bothered...lot of times the fuckers stripped the old bases like a bunch
of ants)

!Jones

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Aug 21, 2016, 5:44:15 PM8/21/16
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 07:33:41 -0700 (PDT), in alt.war.vietnam "Jack G."
<j.gr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>It is nice to have some real people posting here but I am
>sure some of the local loons will give them a ration of shit.

Well, it's special high-intensity training.

Jones

a425couple

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Aug 21, 2016, 7:22:42 PM8/21/16
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<herrera....@gmail.com> wrote in message...
- I was with Alpha 1/7 CUPP 2-4 from the on set of the program til ----
- to be the Plt resupply man and did that til I rotated in Sep 70.
- This is A. "CHING" Herrera, gunner CUPP 2-4.

Welcome to the newsgroup fellow Marine. I thank you for your
service and I'm glad you are checking this place out.

My time with the 7th Marines (3/7) 1st Division was in 1971-72
at Camp Pendelton. I was with 3rd Division when I was overseas
& in Vietnam.

You probably are aware of it, but just in case you had missed it,
your old unit Alpha Co. 1st Bn, 7th Marines has an active
web site.
http://www.alpha-1-7-vn.com/
They have a reunion every two years and looks like
about 2 dozen attended in 2015.
The 2017 one is scheduled in San Antonio (nice city to visit!)

Take good care of yourself & Semper Fielis, Frater Infinitas

!Jones

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Aug 21, 2016, 9:47:16 PM8/21/16
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 16:21:39 -0700, in alt.war.vietnam "a425couple"
<a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Welcome to the newsgroup fellow Marine. I thank you for your
>service and I'm glad you are checking this place out.
>
>My time with the 7th Marines (3/7) 1st Division was in 1971-72
>at Camp Pendelton. I was with 3rd Division when I was overseas
>& in Vietnam.
>
>You probably are aware of it, but just in case you had missed it,
>your old unit Alpha Co. 1st Bn, 7th Marines has an active
>web site.
>http://www.alpha-1-7-vn.com/
>They have a reunion every two years and looks like
>about 2 dozen attended in 2015.
>The 2017 one is scheduled in San Antonio (nice city to visit!)
>
>Take good care of yourself & Semper Fielis, Frater Infinitas

Infinite flatulence to you, too!

Jones

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