Communist Vietnam celebrated the 50th year anniversary of Buddhist self-immolation against American Imperialism and Diem in 1963

[Ben]

Communist Vietnam officially acknowledges that the Buddhist self-
immolation in 1963 was a plot against American imperialism. On May 29,
2013, Hanoi celebrated the 50th anniversary of Ven. Thich Quang Duc
self-immolation in Saigon. This proves Americans who supported the
Buddhist uprising in 1963 the idiots. And idiots should never allowed
to go to war to endanger themselves and others. The Vietnam war should
have ended in 1963 when CIA and Communists joined to support the
Buddhist uprising. Families of 58,000 Americans who died in Vietnam
should have sued US government for compensation of government mistakes
and negligence in Vietnam.

See:
http://phatgiao.org.vn/Images/Contents/camvan/20130529/a7.jpg

Translation of the sign in front of An Quang Tower at Hong Phuc
Buddhist Temple in Hanoi:
"AnQuang Tower was built by Hong Phuc Buddhist Temple on the 20th of
July 1963 in memorial of the Ven. Thich Quang Duc, pastor of Quan Am
Pagoda (Saigon) who self-imolated on the 16th of June 1963 to protest
American Imperialists and Diem's regime who barbarically slaughtered
our patriotic people in South Vietnam.

Pictures of the entire 50th Anniversary ceremony can be viewed at:

http://phatgiao.org.vn/phat-su-dia-phuong/201305/Ha-Noi-Chu-Ton-duc-niem-huong-tai-Bao-thap-Bo-tat-Thich-Quang-duc-o-chua-Hoe-Nhai-11002/

President John F Kennedy and his administration should have seen the
sign at Hong Phuc Temple in Hanoi in 1963 to know that both CIA and
Communists was behind the Buddhist uprising in 1963.
Why waste 58,000 American lives if America wanted communist to win the
war in Vietnam?

Our enemy knew religious uprising is the Achile heel of America. To
defeat America, religious uprisings are used numerous times from
Vietnam to the Middle East to kill Americans. Americans are the repeat
suckers for these tricks.
Most of the wars in the world are caused by religions and they killed
the most human in this planet. It's time to get rid of religious
freedom to save lives. Communist Vietnam and China seem to know how to
restrict religious freedom to the correct level. The US does not.

[Ben]

The US frequently denounced Saddam Hussein, Gadaffi, and Assaad of
killing their own people. Why didn't it ever denounced John F Kennedy
and Lyndon B Johnson for sending 58,000 US troops to the chamber of
death in Vietnam?

On Jun 18, 10:28 am, Ben <pb5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Communist Vietnam officially acknowledges that the Buddhist self-
> immolation in 1963 was a plot against American imperialism. On May 29,
> 2013, Hanoi celebrated the 50th anniversary of Ven. Thich Quang Duc
> self-immolation in Saigon. This proves Americans who supported the
> Buddhist uprising in 1963 the idiots. And idiots should never allowed
> to go to war to endanger themselves and others. The Vietnam war should
> have ended in 1963 when CIA and Communists joined to support the
> Buddhist uprising. Families of 58,000 Americans who died in Vietnam
> should have sued US government for compensation of government mistakes
> and negligence in Vietnam.
>
> See:http://phatgiao.org.vn/Images/Contents/camvan/20130529/a7.jpg
>
> Translation of the sign in front of An Quang Tower at Hong Phuc
> Buddhist  Temple in Hanoi:
> "AnQuang Tower was built by Hong Phuc Buddhist Temple on the 20th of
> July 1963 in memorial of the  Ven. Thich Quang Duc, pastor of Quan Am
> Pagoda (Saigon) who self-imolated  on the 16th of June 1963 to protest
> American Imperialists and Diem's regime who barbarically slaughtered
> our patriotic people in South Vietnam.
>
> Pictures of the entire 50th Anniversary  ceremony can be viewed at:
>

> http://phatgiao.org.vn/phat-su-dia-phuong/201305/Ha-Noi-Chu-Ton-duc-n...

[Ben]

On Jun 18, 10:28 am, Ben <pb5...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Communist Vietnam officially acknowledges that the Buddhist self-
> immolation in 1963 was a plot against American imperialism. On May 29,
> 2013, Hanoi celebrated the 50th anniversary of Ven. Thich Quang Duc
> self-immolation in Saigon. This proves Americans who supported the
> Buddhist uprising in 1963 the idiots. And idiots should never allowed
> to go to war to endanger themselves and others. The Vietnam war should
> have ended in 1963 when CIA and Communists joined to support the
> Buddhist uprising. Families of 58,000 Americans who died in Vietnam
> should have sued US government for compensation of government mistakes
> and negligence in Vietnam.
>
> See:http://phatgiao.org.vn/Images/Contents/camvan/20130529/a7.jpg
>
> Translation of the sign in front of An Quang Tower at Hong Phuc
> Buddhist  Temple in Hanoi:
> "AnQuang Tower was built by Hong Phuc Buddhist Temple on the 20th of
> July 1963 in memorial of the  Ven. Thich Quang Duc, pastor of Quan Am
> Pagoda (Saigon) who self-imolated  on the 16th of June 1963 to protest
> American Imperialists and Diem's regime who barbarically slaughtered
> our patriotic people in South Vietnam.
>
> Pictures of the entire 50th Anniversary  ceremony can be viewed at:
>

> http://phatgiao.org.vn/phat-su-dia-phuong/201305/Ha-Noi-Chu-Ton-duc-n...

>
> President John F Kennedy and his administration should have seen the
> sign at Hong Phuc Temple in Hanoi in 1963 to know that both CIA and
> Communists was behind the Buddhist uprising in 1963.
> Why waste 58,000 American lives if America wanted communist to win the
> war in Vietnam?
>
> Our enemy knew religious uprising is the Achile heel of America. To
> defeat America, religious uprisings are used numerous times from
> Vietnam to the Middle East to kill Americans. Americans are the repeat
> suckers for these tricks.
> Most of the wars in the world are caused by religions and they killed
> the most human in this planet. It's time to get rid of religious
> freedom to save lives. Communist Vietnam and China seem to know how to
> restrict religious freedom to the correct level. The US does not.

At the 20th anniversary of communist victory, communist Vietnam began
to disclose the names of who's who in South Vietnam worked for them
without American detection. Among the names include ARVN Major General
Big Minh, Brig. Gen. Nguyen Huu Hanh, Times reporter Pham Xuan An, and
many others. In 1979, US intelligence broke a Vietnamese spy network
at U.S. Department of State, arrested some DoS officials, and deported
the Vietnamese Ambassador at UN Dinh Ba Thi.The ring worked in the US
for more than 20 years without detection.
While Ven. Thich Quang Duc was not a communist, communist agents
inside An Quang Pagoda orchestrated the sef-immolation in Saigon which
eventually expelled the US out of IndoChina. On April 29, 1975 the
Buddhist coalition government led by Gen. Big Minh announced on Saigon
Radio that the entire US Embassy out of South Vietnam must be out of
Vietnam within 24 hours. Operation Frequent Wind then began. A few
month later, Big Minh went to vote for the annexation of South Vietnam
to North Vietnam under Hanoi. He told foreign media that he was very
happy to be the citizen of an independent Vietnam. His words implied
that South Vietnam was never dependent and the US was the colonial
boss.
Helping Big Minh to power in 1963 and then helping him to take power
in 1975 show that US government from presidents to government workers
are just the bunch of idiots. Communist Vietnam laugh all the way to
the bank when they seized 16 tons of gold in South Vietnam Central
bank and billions of US assets left behind at great cost to US
taxpayers.

[alexan...@hotmail.com]

The following is the URL of a Wikipedia Article entitled "Mass Killings Under Communist Regimes":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

While the USA and it's allies in the War in Vietnam openly stated that it would conform to the Geneva Conventions with regard to warfare, North Vietnam publicly stated that it would NOT conform to the Geneva Conventions and would wage a war of terror in South Vietnam to establish a Communist Stalinist dictatorship.

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Ben wrote:
>
> Translation of the sign in front of An Quang Tower at Hong Phuc
> Buddhist Temple in Hanoi:
> "AnQuang Tower was built by Hong Phuc Buddhist Temple on the 20th of
> July 1963 in memorial of the Ven. Thich Quang Duc, pastor of Quan Am
> Pagoda (Saigon) who self-imolated on the 16th of June 1963 to protest
> American Imperialists and Diem's regime who barbarically slaughtered
> our patriotic people in South Vietnam.

Many other Vietnamese people self-immolated...as did 8 Americans in
the U.S. in protest of this *hugely* unjust war by the U.S.,
resulting in the deaths of millions of innocent people in Vietnam,
Laos, and Cambodia.

Thankfully, today Communist Vietnam is our good friend (what they
wanted all along).
;-)

[Ben]

The failure of US intelligence led to the failure of US in Vietnam.
Along with Hanoi, Washington supported the Buddhist uprising and orchestrated the coup that overthrew the government of South Vietnam.
After that the war escalated but the US did not know that communist agents already infested South Vietnamese government and the armed forces. In 1964,
Strategic Hamlet Program which moved South Vietnamese peasants to RVN government controlled area were abolished and the peasant returned to VC controlled area. US troops suffered casualties when they passed by VC controlled hamlets. It only take a sniper in the hamlet to kill many US soldiers. Vietnamese villages became the deadly traps to US foot soldiers. Eventually some units went crazy and slaughtered the entire village (such as My Lai). This is when the US lost the war of heart and mind. Without Strategic hamlet, US soldiers were frustrated to fight a war where they don't know who was VC and who was not, some were in the jungles, others in Saigon and in RVN government! Communist told Big Minh to destroy Strategic Hamlets and he did after the US put him to power in 1963. Communist infiltration in South Vietnam was so deep All commandos sent to North Vietnam were captured minutes after they were dropped by air. But the US did not bother to find out why all special ops in North Vietnam failed. Officials had no clue and didn't care to find out why. So more commandos were sent to North Vietnam to be captured. Some stayed in North Vietnam's jail for 30 years. Many B52 bombing raids missed targets because Communists hiding in ARVN commands gave the US bad info. Details of operations such as Binh Gia Phuoc Tuy in 1964, Dong Xoai in 1965, and LamSon 719 in Laos were given to communists in advance and ARVN suffered heavy casualties. Before 1963, casualties of 80 ARVN soldiers to recapture ApBac was a big and shocking news to the US. After 1963, the loss of thousands of ARVN in Kontum, Ban Methuot, Quang Tri, Lamson 719 are no big news. In 1975, when South Vietnam lost the entire I Corps (200,000 troops) to NVA within a week of fighting, no one cared.

All were set up by Hanoi. But US leaders were not smart enough to see who is the enemy in South Vietnam.

[Ben]

If the US wanted to fight against communists in Vietnam, it should support its own allies and not the uprising orchestrated by communists. American can't fight the Vietnam war when the communists are safe and protected in Saigon.

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Ben wrote:

> The failure of US intelligence led to the failure of US in Vietnam.
> Along with Hanoi, Washington supported the Buddhist uprising and orchestrated the coup that overthrew the government of South Vietnam.
> After that the war escalated but

Son, the war escalated *before* that too. For a Vietnamese person
from the former "South" Vietnam you are incredibly ignorant (or
delusional) of that war, which is why I rarely read your crap.
;-)

[Ben]

The 50th aniversary celebration of the Buddhist self-immolation in
Hanoi and other events such as agreeing for the neutralization of Laos
in 1962 and the Bay of Pig in Cuba prove that JFK is not an
intelligent man. He may have done something to cheat in the electoral
vote in Illinois (by Mafia) to defeat Nixon, but that was the only
thing he could do. He could not get along with the government of South
Vietnam. With so many failure, Kennedy is a relatively dumb president.
Ho Chi Minh outsmarted him in Laos. Fidel Castro outsmarted him in
Cuba. And the Kruchev outsmarted him in Congo and Germany.
When Premier Kruchev built the Berlin Wall, all JFKcould do was to
stand behind the Berlin Wall and said I am a Berliner, let communists
imprison East Germans behind the barbed wires and wall, no one can
get out . President Ronald Reagan was a much smarter and bolder
President. He called the Soviet the "Evil Empire", took action rebuild
US power in the world from economy to military. Then he demanded the
Soviet to tear down the Berlin Wall which John F Kennedy was too
afraid of the Soviet to make such demand. Ronald Regan's action
eventually liberated 700 million Eastern Europeans from the hands of
communist evil empire. After the fall of the Berlin Wall, 700 million
Easter n European are free to go anywhere they wanted to and are free
to elect their own government.
On the other hand, The US lost its power under Kennedy from the
removal of nuclear warhead in Turkey in exchange for the withdrawal of
missiles in Cuba, the neutralization of Laos, to the destabilization
of South Vietnam from 1962 to 1975. North Vietnam was unified in a
block of 20 million loyal soldiers while South Vietnam was severely
divided at ARVN units frequently fought among themselves. When
communist advanced in 1975, less than 100 thousands South Vietnamese
stood fighting, the rest fled and surrender. North Vietnam took energy
pills from China and strongly unified. South Vietnam took the poison
pills from JFK and disintegrated.

On Jun 18, 10:28 am, Ben <pb5...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Communist Vietnam officially acknowledges that the Buddhist self-
> immolation in 1963 was a plot against American imperialism. On May 29,
> 2013, Hanoi celebrated the 50th anniversary of Ven. Thich Quang Duc
> self-immolation in Saigon. This proves Americans who supported the
> Buddhist uprising in 1963 the idiots. And idiots should never allowed
> to go to war to endanger themselves and others. The Vietnam war should
> have ended in 1963 when CIA and Communists joined to support the
> Buddhist uprising. Families of 58,000 Americans who died in Vietnam
> should have sued US government for compensation of government mistakes
> and negligence in Vietnam.
>
> See:http://phatgiao.org.vn/Images/Contents/camvan/20130529/a7.jpg
>
> Translation of the sign in front of An Quang Tower at Hong Phuc
> Buddhist  Temple in Hanoi:
> "AnQuang Tower was built by Hong Phuc Buddhist Temple on the 20th of
> July 1963 in memorial of the  Ven. Thich Quang Duc, pastor of Quan Am
> Pagoda (Saigon) who self-imolated  on the 16th of June 1963 to protest
> American Imperialists and Diem's regime who barbarically slaughtered
> our patriotic people in South Vietnam.
>
> Pictures of the entire 50th Anniversary  ceremony can be viewed at:
>

> http://phatgiao.org.vn/phat-su-dia-phuong/201305/Ha-Noi-Chu-Ton-duc-n...

[Ben]

On Jun 19, 10:01 am, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
wrote:

Son, you are just a Marxist Stalinist idiot. Your limited knowledge
was obtained by communist brainwash and censorship while you were in
school, so communists only let you know what they wanted you to know,
just like the North Koreans today.

[alexan...@hotmail.com]

Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D. is a Bolshevik Male Gender feminist who, therefore, rejects republican norms and embraces unprincipled totalitarian means and ends with an emphasis on the totalitarian concepts of "oppressor groups" and " oppressed groups" with the "oppressed groups" having the right and duty, by any unprincipled means and ends, to gain authoritarian totalitarian economic, political, social, and cultural dominance over the "oppressor" groups. To this end, he embraces totalitarian Misandric Gender Feminism and aggressive and oppressive Marxist, Orwellian, Authoritarian, and Machiavellian means and ends.

[Dai Uy]

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:50:06 AM UTC-10, Ben wrote:
> The 50th aniversary celebration of the Buddhist self-immolation in
> Hanoi

Sabine Kratze was a German student who committed self-immolation in order to protest against what she believed to be the unjust trial of six Buddhist monks which had taken place on 15 August 1995. Kratze, who was 25 at the time, set herself on fire with gasoline on 3 September 1995, in Hô Chi Minh City, in a room at a small hotel on Ly You Trong Street.

There are other anti-communist self immolations as well:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/31/vietnamese-blogger-mother-fire-tan

http://www.vietquoc.com/news2001/na090801.htm

Neither Hanoi, nor you, seem to want to remember them...

***

[DGVREIMAN]

"Dai Uy" <Dai...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1121f6d2-cf7d-44ce...@googlegroups.com...

Doug Says: Commies never want to recognize protests of any kind
against them - those that do and survive disappear in Vietnam, as I am
told. So why would ANYONE want to visit that country?

Doug Grant (Tm)

[Stumpy REMF]

so pho-kyew