Deo Vindice Meaning was Re: Recent behavior
Wright
>Deo Vindice,
>
>Larry
Deo Vindice is on the Seal of the Confederate States of America.
I know little foriegn language and I know Deo = God what does
vindice mean
Mark Pitcavage
>From: Wright <wri...@asb.com>
>Subject: Deo Vindice Meaning was Re: Recent behavior
>Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:04:17 GMT
"Forgive Us." ;)
Dr. Mark Pitcavage
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of history." --Lord Macaulay.
Charles Ten Brink
>llbe...@aol.com (LLBeane2) wrote:
>>Deo Vindice,
>Deo Vindice is on the Seal of the Confederate States of America.
>I know little foriegn language and I know Deo = God what does
>vindice mean
>
The verb in question has some very different meanings; I usually
hear this referenced as "God will vindicate (us)" or "God will
avenge (us)", but it could also mean "God will make (us) free".
I've never seen a reference to an official statement by the
CSA congress that adopted the seal, and the folks at the
Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond said that it was left
ambiguous, so perhaps there was no such statement.
Yours,
Chuck Ten Brink
--
D'Angelo Law Library < He did not catch babies with a spearhead as
University of Chicago * was the practice of other Vikings; for this
c-ten...@uchicago.edu > reason he was called "child-friend".
Maury
>>llbe...@aol.com (LLBeane2) wrote:
>>>Deo Vindice,
Deo Vindice = God Vindicates.
Used today primarily by the SCV (Sons of Confederate Veterans).
Caroline Usher
> In article <DM9JJ...@news2.new-york.net>, Wright <wri...@asb.com> wrote:
> >llbe...@aol.com (LLBeane2) wrote:
> >>Deo Vindice,
>
> >Deo Vindice is on the Seal of the Confederate States of America.
> >I know little foriegn language and I know Deo = God what does
> >vindice mean
> >
> The verb in question has some very different meanings; I usually
> hear this referenced as "God will vindicate (us)" or "God will
> avenge (us)", but it could also mean "God will make (us) free".
> I've never seen a reference to an official statement by the
> CSA congress that adopted the seal, and the folks at the
> Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond said that it was left
> ambiguous, so perhaps there was no such statement.
> Yours,
> Chuck Ten Brink
Well, Deo cannot be the subject of a verb as it is not in the nominative
case, which would be "Deus". I don't have a Latin dictionary handy but it
looks to me like this is a noun phrase in the Ablative case, and the
(literal) meaning would be something like or "By God the Avenger."
Caroline Usher
Charles Ten Brink
Caroline Usher <c...@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
>In article <DM9qA...@midway.uchicago.edu>, cj...@midway.uchicago.edu wrote:
>
>> In article <DM9JJ...@news2.new-york.net>, Wright <wri...@asb.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Deo Vindice is on the Seal of the Confederate States of America.
>> >I know little foriegn language and I know Deo = God what does
>> >vindice mean
>> >
>> The verb in question has some very different meanings; I usually
>> hear this referenced as "God will vindicate (us)" or "God will
>> avenge (us)", but it could also mean "God will make (us) free".
>> I've never seen a reference to an official statement by the
>> CSA congress that adopted the seal, and the folks at the
>> Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond said that it was left
>> ambiguous, so perhaps there was no such statement.
>
>case, which would be "Deus". I don't have a Latin dictionary handy but it
>looks to me like this is a noun phrase in the Ablative case, and the
>(literal) meaning would be something like or "By God the Avenger."
>
possibilities for "vindice" and none whatsoever to case. Thank
heavens there are Latin scholars around when you need them.
The various meanings might thus be "God our avenger", "God our
vindicator" or "God our liberator"; the person I talked with at
the Museum seemed quite convinced that the reference to "we" the
people (hence the "our" in these phrases) was fairly to be implied,
but then, I confess I have no idea what her qualifications might
be.
Thanks,
Chuck
LLBeane2
Janitor) writes:
>A plaque dedicated to all the Confederate Soldiers from Christ Church
>in Greenville, SC (including my Great Grandfather, William Calhoun
>Humphreys) has another form. I may not have this right...
>
> Dei Vendice
>
>-Mike
>
>
That's South Carolina Latin!
Semper Palmettis,
Larry
Maury
>
>cj...@ellis.uchicago.edu (Charles Ten Brink) writes:
>>>> >Deo Vindice is on the Seal of the Confederate States of America.
>>vindicator" or "God our liberator"; the person I talked with at
>>the Museum seemed quite convinced that the reference to "we" the
>>people (hence the "our" in these phrases) was fairly to be implied,
>>but then, I confess I have no idea what her qualifications might
>>be.
>
>in Greenville, SC (including my Great Grandfather, William Calhoun
>Humphreys) has another form. I may not have this right...
>
> Dei Vendice
>
>-Mike
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The above brings up an interesting area I've not seen
much coverage on, "Churches" and what occured with them
during and immediately after the American Civil War.
That memorial plaque that Mike mentions reminds me of a
stained glass memorial window the "Yankee" Invaders
didn't like during their Reconstruction of the South.
I can cite only a few incidents but all pertaining
to my own ancestry, collateral kin, and/or their friends.
Does anyone out there other than me know of any particular
interesting incidences regarding Churches during and after
but still pertaining to the American Civil War ?
If so, what were they ?
Were churches burned ?
Were the people within them harassed ?
Sermons were about -- ?
Kind Regards,
Maury in Virginia