SCV members trash and bash their own members
Ferguson Cletus
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/mailbag.htm
Dallen Sulligaunt wrote that Larry Beansier said that Henrys Goober Peas aren't
worth . . . .
. . . . and then there was that issue of the good ole boy mentality Bar-B-Q
sauce that neocons want to sell while stores are removing the jars. Also, Go
Maurice, go, hang that CSA Battlefag high in that pine tree of yourn to prove
that removing it from the SC capitol dome don't stop no good ole boy like yew.
The Militia Watchdog crowd needs to watch these neo cons closer.
Looky Here!
Order of White Trash website where SCV members trash each other.
Southerners don't need anyone to defeat them. They do it. :)
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/ home page
reb4...@bellsouth.net
>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/
>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/mailbag.htm
>Dallen Sulligaunt wrote that Larry Beansier said that Henrys Goober Peas aren't
>worth . . . .
It seems that Maury has become the butt of jokes even
among his own "Compatriots". Of course, it's all my
fault, or so he seems to think.
a.s.
scv...@my-deja.com
ferguso...@aol.com (Ferguson Cletus) wrote:
>
>
> http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/
>
> http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/mailbag.htm
>
> Dallen Sulligaunt wrote that Larry Beansier said that Henrys Goober
Peas aren't
> worth . . . .
>
Bar-B-Q
> sauce that neocons want to sell while stores are removing the jars.
Also, Go
> Maurice, go, hang that CSA Battlefag high in that pine tree of yourn
to prove
> that removing it from the SC capitol dome don't stop no good ole boy
like yew.
>
> The Militia Watchdog crowd needs to watch these neo cons closer.
>
> Looky Here!
>
> Order of White Trash website where SCV members trash each other.
>
> Southerners don't need anyone to defeat them. They do it. :)
>
> http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/ home page
>
> http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/mailbag.htm
- - - attached - - -
Looky Here's Fantasy Mailbag
We at Looky Here enjoy the many e-mails we receive. We especially like
getting hate-mail, sense it let's us know what we're doing right, and
it also gives us funny things to follow up with in subsequent issues.
There are, however, some e-mails we know we will never, ever receive at
our palatial mahogany offices [say what? ? Ed.]. Here is a sample of
that kind of Looky Here fantasy e-mail:
"Y'all made me laugh so hard, I nearly peed in my tweeds." - Professor
Norman Dasinger
"Your brilliant satire and probing investigative journalism has led me
to make reforms in my organization. Thank you so much, Looky Here,
y'all have saved the HPA!" - Lee Collins
"Your masterful commentary regarding the League of the South has made
me want to become a life member of the Order of White Trash. In fact,
I recommend that every LOSer in Georgia make a very large donation to
OWT Intergalactic headquarters." - Mike Hodges
"I've turned over a new leaf! Let's go after those scalawags and
whores at the Museum of the Confederacy! I'm adopting Ed Willis as my
stepson and promise to wash Hank Morris' car every Saturday until the
day I die!" - Collin Pulley
"Looky Here has caused me to rethink my priorities. I'm taking
decisive action. Here's the plan:
1) I'm going to become literate and sane.
2) I'm giving up my Tinkie-Winkie doll.
3) I'm going to fly the beloved Confederate flag every day.
4) I'm going to act like a man instead of a large, walking, talking
piece of excrement.
5) I'm trading in my Judy Garland CDs for the Dixie Chicks!
- Edward Sebesta
"Now that Collin Pulley is washing my car, I like him. He's a man's
man, and so full of great ideas, too!" - Hank Morris
"Number one, I'm not dead. Number two, I resent the insinuation that
I look like Pat Hardy. Number three, does anyone have Ed Sebesta's
phone number?" - Liberace
"I want to be informed and entertained. I don't like censorship.
Debate is good, goose-stepping conformity is bad." - Steve Hall
The Real Reader's Forum
Now that you've all read the mail we'll never see, here are a few
tidbits we've gotten in response to our last issue. Some names
withheld to protect the unpurged.
Another satisfied customer...
Dear Looky Here:
[Looky Here is the] most offensive "Scalawag" site I've ever
encountered on the net. Your email was on it. If you are from my
home state of Georgia, you should be whipped a hundred times for every
drop of blood shed by my Confederate Ancestors. Either you are a
dishonourable fool or your mamma didn't raise you right. Why don't you
pack up your trailer and move it out of Dixie! We don't have much use
for people like you down here.
M.H., Georgia
Dear M.H.:
We love you too! Be sure to keep us informed of important LOSer
developments in the Peach State.
Hugs & Kisses,
Bubba
The General Admiration Society
Dear P.G.T. [Scuttlebutt],
I remember you well...."All's Quiet On The Western Front" Kraup stalked
up with his britches rolled up and his bare feet on the grass. He let
out a mighty fart and said "every little bean must be heard as well as
seen". Sept 1918.
H.M., Virginia
P.S. Best Looky Here yet!!!!
Dear H.M.:
Why, you crusty old bastard, you wouldn't be a "Brown Shoe" doughboy,
would you? You tell Collin Pullet and Red Boner that the next time I
march my ass up to Virginia, I?m gonna pass a "golf ball sized" kidney
stone right on the floor of the Museum of the UnConfederacy. That
oughtta give 'em both a case of the "Hershey squirts."
Rigidly,
P.G.T. Scuttlebutt
From the Halls of Montezuma's Revenge...
Dear General Scuttlebutt:
your okay genaral id serve with yu any whar even if yu ant a old jar
head like me
A.S., State unknown
Hey A.S.:
Glad you liked the column, leatherneck. You may not spell worth a
flying truck, but dammit-all to hell, at least you're no mushroom! We
need more good old jarheads like you in this man's S.C.V., that's for
damnsure! Now drop and give me fifty!
Hoo-rah,
P.G.T. Scuttlebutt
Neck of Red, Heart of Gold
Dear OWT:
I was plum proud that you recognized that my neck was too RED for
rednecks.com but Yaw'll keep them cards and letters coming. Keep the
good work up!
B.B., State unknown
Dear B.B.
We luv ya even more than Christy Boston! Keep the @#$%^ skeer on the
*&^%$!
All choked up,
P.G.T. Scuttlebutt
Rednecks Dot Com
Dear Oscar:
Are we, the "normal" trashmeisters ever going to be able to get a
@rednecks.com address? I like it. I like it a lot.
J.O., State unknown
Ho J.O.:
There are no class distinctions among us white trash! If you read and
enjoy Looky Here, you are entitled to a free @rednecks.com e-mail
address. Just go to www.myownemail.com and follow the directions.
You'll have to hunt a little to find the "rednecks" address, but hey,
the price is right for us denizens of the mobile home community!
From the bleeding edge of cybertrash,
Oscar
Artificial Intelligence
Dear Looky:
I think I've da ansore to da queston "What would MMmmmaury do?" the
obvoius answer is sell cd's den hold da money fer bout oh..let's say a
year o' two. Den run out ob money, den hab da VA Div website shut down
do to lack ob funds.
Lost in Virginny,
Buckwheat
Dear Mr. Wheat:
We tried to reach MMMaury for a comment, but he seems to be stuck in a
loop and is currently waiting for a programmer to open him up and
reboot him. We are also trying to find out if he is Y2K compliant?
Bugged,
Oscar
Male PMS: Pestered Missourian Syndrome
Dear Looky;
Y'all were doin a hilarious job till some moron had the audacity to
infer that Missoura wadn't a Confederate state. "May the spirits of
the brave Missourians who died defending your soverign state of Joja
(during the Atlanta Campaign) raise up and piss enlightenment into yo'
brain bone." Don't sluff off your friends down here in the Ozarks.
G.D., Missouri
Now, Looky Here, G.D.:
Ain't no reason to get uppidy with the Trash! In fact, if the Ozarks
were removed from the picture, why there'd hardly be any white trash
left in the entire country! We don't have a problem with Mizzouri.
We just like to tease y'all 'cause you get more steamed up than Ed
Sebesta in a YMCA sauna. Y'all gotta lighten up a bit! You
Missourians are still better than the folks from Massachusetts. We
don't care what Ben Smith says!
Confederately, (no offense?)
Oscar
A Blast from Trash History
Deer Kingfish:
I dun bee high lee O fen did!I been White Trash frum de start. I be de
editor of Amos and Andy Press( my OWT friends calls it dat cuz we
publishes too books on colored Confederates) I be the Executive
Director who stood wif de truth to exonerate Bob Betterton, I be on de
top ten list of Braxton Bragg D'assingers enemies and I one of de few
peoples who tells him to his face wot we all knows dat he am a
sominabitch. And you blue gums dun forgets all "bout me. I be alive
and well and still tellin de trufh unlike most SCV leaders. Keep up
the good work.
J.M., Tennessee
Dear J.M.:
Lordy, mercy! We sho' is glad to hear from you! Keep up the skeer
and if anything newsworthy happens in the Volunteer State, be sure to
keep our Tennessee Bureau informed. We'd especially like to stay on
top of the Depends shortage in the Columbia area. Bubba and I managed
to save up for a share of stock. We're expecting at least a three for
one split when the next Executive Council meeting comes around. We're
also looking for a possible editor for the "Journal of White Trash
History" Any suggestions? We're not worthy?
Oscar & Bubba
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Champ Ferguson
Back issues of _Looky Here_, an electronic publication started many years ago
that is designed to demean anyone who does not agree with the members of the
order of white trash who are racists judging from what they write and place
into their webpages. Although they are members in the Sons of Confederate
Veterans who may seek to climb that ladder of command to get control of the SCV
we should also consider that they also are members of racists organizations.
Too, consider the League Of The South; Heritage Protection Association and
other such organizations.
We may ask about the old Ku Klux Klan but if we do we should also consider that
the old Klan has a new look to it and their racist mentality remains much the
same.
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/backiss.htm
" Mammy say 'It jest ain't fittin ta miss em.' "
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/mammy.jpg
[image of a African-American woman called "Mammy"]
Jim Bushart
more of a prejudiced, bigotted attitude than the Southern Confederate
Americans that you try to smear.
I would think that one who professes to be a representative of a more
tolerant and superior caliber, such as you do, would be less inclined to
stoop to such a low level of thought and attitude.
Hopefully, you will find something to feel good about in yourself, and spend
less time looking for fault in others.
Jim
reb4...@bellsouth.net
>In article <20000921012512...@ng-fd1.aol.com>,
> ferguso...@aol.com (Ferguson Cletus) wrote:
> - - - attached - - -
>
>Looky Here's Fantasy Mailbag
<snip>
Hey Maury!! You left out the really good stuff:
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/pgts1.htm
(excerpt)
From the Desk of General Scuttlebutt
**
[From his command bunker in his suburban subdivision, Major General
P.G.T. Scuttlebutt, U.S. Army, Ret., a veteran of 'Dubya Dubya Eye,' 'Dubya
Dubya Eye Eye,' and 'Ko Ree Uh' weighs in on recent Echo traffic.]
*** Maury returns! Gawdalmighty! This boy is like a case of herpes - he
just keeps coming back for more. But you know, with V.D., at least there is a
front-loaded benefit in exchange for the itching, burning, and discharge. Not
so with Maury! Hell, I'll take warts over this goof any day - especially if it
comes in a package like it did back in '42! I don't mean the hairy French
broads either - I managed to weasel my way into Bangkok for "I and I." Oh the
memories! Where's my Valtrex? Calgon, take me away!
*** Speaking of Maury, did y'all see that pathetic attempt of
Maury to write a song parody? Now, I'm not the biggest Pink
Floyd fan in the world (hell, the only modern music I like is that
young colored boy Chuck Berry), but even I know that song
"Brain Damage." Maury, stick to your day job - (which is
breaking out in hives naked in a closet while muttering
nursery rhymes to his imaginary friends). The last time
Maury tried to have a sense of humor, he turned twelve
fence-riders into staunch yankees on the "open internet."
Maury has done more harm to the Confederate Cause than
the NAACP - and he can't even dunk a basketball! All in all
it's just another brick in the wall! Where's Benny Goodman
now that we need him?
And This Too:
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/looky7.htm
(excerpt)
Tournament Winds Down to Final Two....
A lot of people mistakenly think NAACP, er, NCAA football is the National Sport
of the Confederacy. In the immortal words of Mike "Full Tomato" Crowder, "Ugh
ugh!" Nosiree, Bubba! The Confederate National Pastime is: Ancestor Worship.
There are two major leagues: the SCV and the UDC. In the SCV Ancestor Worship
2000 Final Tournament, dubbed the Pompous Bowl™, there are two final
protagonists clenched in battle to determine who is the champion with bragging
rights to the national championship.
In one corner is Edward Overton Cailleteau, weighing in at a svelte 864 pounds
of pure Luzzyanna gumbo and dirty rice. Cailleteau can prove ancestry within
six degrees from any living human being - with the possible exception of Kevin
Bacon. Cailleteau is a long-time SCV member, geegaw-laden, a former
Commandant-Generalissimo of the Militaristic Order of Sores and Bores, noted
eccentric, and arguably the best damned parliamentarian the SCV
has ever had (or can BS his way through Robert's Rules better than the rest of
us).
His opponent is one Maury "MMM" Morris. Not much is known about Morris, who
many allege is really only a cyber-creation - extant only in virtual reality and
the SCV Dispatch [No need to be redundant here. - Ed.] Morris claims descent
from the great Matthew Fontaine Maury... ad nauseum. If Morris could get away
with it, he would excavate the Commodore's bones and worship them 24 hours a day
- and compel everyone else to do the same. Some people claim Morris is not
firing on all cylinders, and may have a plate in his head. But don't be too
hard on the fellow, after all, he is a Vietnam vet, an SCV member, AND a
Virginian.
As a sample pre-fight warm up bout, Looky Here presents a sampling of efforts by
these two titans of vicarious vainglory.
Cailleteau claiming kinship with Thomas Jefferson: "The man on whose Record I
became a member of the Sons of the American Revolution (who was the grandfather
of the man of the same name on whose Record I joined the Sons of Confederate
Veterans and the Military Order of the Stars and Bars) was Thomas Overton of
Louisa County, Virginia. Thomas Overton's aunt, Barbara Overton, married John
Carr of "Bear Castle" in Louisa Co. near Lake Anna on 29 DEC 1737. They had 10
children. One of those children was Dabney Carr (1743-1773). Dabney Carr
married (20 JUL 1765) Martha Jefferson, sister of Thomas Jefferson. Dabney Carr
was a member of the Virginia Burgesses. He conceived of the Committees of
Public Safety and Correspondence. He died at the age of 30 of what was
called then <bilious fever,> probably an intestinal obstruction. Dabney Carr is
buried perpendicular to the obelisk under which Jefferson is buried. Carr was
the first to be buried in the cemetery at Monticello and Jefferson wrote the
inscription on his marker."
Maury demanding his ancestor's name be added to Lee-Jackson Day: "The river
that runs behind there is now the "Maury River". There is a "Maury-Brooke Hall"
at VMI. Matthew died in Lexington and he was laid out for visitors that came
from afar [Magi? - Ed.] , from other nations and he had his medals from many
nations pinned on his chest. He was laid out in the VMI Library (I have a
photo) [So there! - Ed.]. In the background are the Tennessee and
Virginia state flags (He was born in Virginia and raised in Tennessee). Also in
the background are many other things such as a huge ship anchor which is now a
part of the Monument to Matthew Fontaine Maury at Goshen Pass leading out of
Lexington, Virginia. When Matthew F Maury was buried, he was buried in the
Gilham Vault directly across from Stonewall Jackson in Lexington, Virginia. His
birthday fits in between Lee and Jackson's birthdays. All three were
Virginians. All three served in the US military USA, USA, USN before that war
and then in CSA, CSN during that war. Lee surrendered. Jackson was killed by
his own men accidentally, Matthew F Maury did not surrender but instead went to
Mexico, got a position under Maximilan and had "Carlotta Colony, and "New
Virginia" built for ex-Confederates. I think that when we consider
"Lee-Jackson", we should include Commodore M F Maury who achieved did as much
if not more for others than Lee and Jackson combined."
Ah, I love the smell of Hubris in the morning! So, who does The Looky back in
this Pedigree Pentathalon™? We're rooting for Cailleteau. Why? We like Ed.
Ed is definitely "white trash." Ed has served the SCV well, and provided fodder
for Looky Here. Maury, on the other had, is simply miserable and wretched. He
is mean-spirited and enjoys picking needless fights with anyone with a keyboard.
We also think his gears are slipping.
Look at this signature line: "William Maury Morris II, cd-rom maker, webmaster,
rare books collecter and republisher, SCV Camp #1722, Commodore Matthew Fontaine
Maury; Fredericksburg, Virginia"
On another occasion: "Maury, from "Maurie" (France 1500)" [Can y'all hear the
cuckoo clock sounding off in your heads? - Ed.]
And finally, an actual submission to the SCV Dispatch: The subject line for this
post is "Y." Yes, that's it. The subject of this post is "Y" - as in "why is
Maury allowed to go outside without his strait jacket?" The entire text of this
post (sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 12:08 AM) is reproduced here: "
.....awwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn." True words of wisdom, Maury. Is this
why inbreeding is discouraged - even among Virginians?
Take your medicine, MMMaury. In this championship round, we're backing Ed
Cailleteau all the way!
Whoyouseeisme
>From: champf...@aol.com (Champ Ferguson)
>Date: 9/21/00 5:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20000921170230...@ng-cq1.aol.com>
A domain name search
http://www.register.com
There is a blank space to search for domain names.
Enter: orderofwhitetrash
place a check mark beside .com
Click on "Check It"
results= Taken
Click on the link to see who has registered this name.
http://www.register.com/whois-results.cgi?
1|2091260319|CO1&domain=orderofwhitetrash.com
Registrant: OWT (ORDEROFWHITETRASH-DOM) P. O. Box 3448 Brentwood, TN 37024 US
Domain Name: orderofwhitetrash.com
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
Ferguson Cletus (FC2615-ORG)
champn...@EMAIL.COM
OWT
P.O. Box 3448 Brentwood ,
TN 37024 US 615-373-0058
Compare the phone number above with a person search on
http://www.switchboard.com
Type in Brentwood, TN and type in Sullivant for the last name.
The results show that it is Allen Sullivant's phone number in Brentwood,
Tennessee.
He uses the alias, Ferguson Cletus, just as he uses reb4...@bellsouth.com and
other aliases.
While he tries to focus on the name Maury in this newsgroup the point remains
the same. He is one of those who put together the Order Of White Trash website.
He claims he gets the articles from persons unknown to him and that he only
uploads articles from strangers. Yet without uploading the materials and then
placing them in a subdirectory as well as linking them there would be no
website. That is how a website is created. On that website former Sons Of
Confederate Veterans officers he and his friends dislike are written about as
seen in an
earlier post here under this thread.
Even some SCV member's wives are trashed.
His group are by all appearances racists and yet they belong to the Sons of
Confederate Veterans. While some in the SCV work hard and declare, "Heritage
Not Hate", in all seriousness and sincerity there yet remains these factions
with members who also belong to other pro south
groups. They have already been mentioned in a previous post under this thread.
He wrote once in a reply that he works for a legal firm, or is associated with
one. I suspect he meant the League Of The South. I have not checked recently
but I would suppose that is one of the areas
where Dr. Mark Pitcavage has a link to with his "Militia Watchdog" website.
There is a good reason why someone like Dr. Pitcavage would be watching a
website like that. The members are not what they appear to be so they have to
be watched by the good people who care. Long ago there was a Holocaust and the
people declared, "Never Again". It was a terrible thing that all of us should
pay attention to and watch as Dr. Mark Pitcavage does lest another form of evil
grows in strength. There are people who are so subversive that they want to
create a new
Confederacy. The use of the term, Neo-Con, is a good use in these situations. I
believe that while some persons in the SCV display the appearance of peace and
heritage on one hand there are some who have plans to do more and do the
opposite IF they can climb the ladder within the SCV and work from inside to
alter its course of "Heritage, not Hate" and remove all of the grannies and
mushrooms (their terms for sincere workers) to be replaced with members such as
those who are in The Order Of White Trash who also belong to other
organizations that carry
hatreds into society. Another would be the NAAWP, The National Association for
the Advancement of White People which was once headed by David Duke of the Ku
Klux Klan. Then there is the Aryan Nation and others to be considered. All of
these are connected in some way and where there are sincere Sons of Confederate
Veterans interested in their Heritage without Hate, there are also those in it
who think that most of the SCV leaders are not hardcore enough.
You have met "Mammy" on the OWT website
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/backiss.htm
Now look at this one and these are not the only racist areas on the Order Of
White Trash website where the word redneck is coveted as being racist.
While many members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans cry out "Heritage Not
Hate" in all sincerity, behind their backs on the website, "Order Of White
Trash", registered to Allen Sullivant, are things like this:--
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/whee.htm
It shows an animated .gif image of a white man walking up to the NAACP symbol
the NAACP cherishes and "peeing on it". I tend to think the NAACP logo is
copyrighted but there it is on the OWT website.
These things are designed to tear down the true Sons of Confederate Veterans
from within, to reshape it (their way). Who would then believe all of those who
are sincere when declaring. Heritage Not Hate" when these things are seen on
webpages of the "Order Of White Trash", many of which also declare a protection
of the SCV (their way) and have SCV symbols (copyrighted) and SCV Links.
Robert Taubman
"Jim Bushart" <jbus...@npwt.net> wrote in message
news:8qf00t$qm3$1...@dinar.varner.com...
Mark Pitcavage
been for some time. It has had graphics such as the one listed below
for quite a while.
On 21 Sep 2000 21:02:30 GMT, champf...@aol.com (Champ Ferguson)
wrote:
reb4...@bellsouth.net
<snip>
>The results show that it is Allen Sullivant's phone number in Brentwood,
>Tennessee.
>He uses the alias, Ferguson Cletus, just as he uses reb4...@bellsouth.com and
>other aliases.
Hi Maury. Yes, I know it's you. Ever hear of a little procedure called
"traceroute"? Now that I have your phone number I may just give you
a call :-)
Have a nice day.
a.s.
William G. Davis
you are, thank you for the research and the expose.
There are no real surprises here. One is, indeed, known by the company one
keeps.
--
Regards,
William G. Jeff Davis
je...@heNOSPAMhe.com
"During my 87 years I have witnessed a whole succession
of technological revolutions. But none of them has done
away with the need for character in the individual or
the ability to think."
-Bernard M. Baruch
"Whoyouseeisme" <whoyou...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000922025248...@ng-fd1.aol.com...
reb4...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>Just what is a Southern Confederate American?
Something you will never qualify to be, Bob. That may or
may not be a good thing for you :-)
a.s.
reb4...@bellsouth.net
<spa...@militia-watchdog.org> wrote:
>The Order of White Trash website is indeed a racist website and has
>been for some time. It has had graphics such as the one listed below
>for quite a while.
It's a humor site, Mark. Like "The Onion", only for SCV members.
Items that the easily offended would call "racist" are there merely
because they elicit the same sort of reaction from some SCV
knuckleheads that they elicit from you.
Have a wonderful day,
a.s.
Mark Pitcavage
There are items there that virtually anybody would find racist.
reb4...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:53:48 GMT, reb4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>>On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:07:10 GMT, Mark Pitcavage
>><spa...@militia-watchdog.org> wrote:
>>>The Order of White Trash website is indeed a racist website and has
>>>been for some time. It has had graphics such as the one listed below
>>>for quite a while.
>>It's a humor site, Mark. Like "The Onion", only for SCV members.
>>Items that the easily offended would call "racist" are there merely
>>because they elicit the same sort of reaction from some SCV
>>knuckleheads that they elicit from you.
>There are items there that virtually anybody would find racist.
One man's racism is another man's satire. Perhaps that point
is not easily understood by folks like yourself.
a.s.
Geoff Blankenmeyer
> >There are items there that virtually anybody would find racist.
>
> One man's racism is another man's satire. Perhaps that point
> is not easily understood by folks like yourself.
Picture this.
The Mason-Dixon Line is painted on the ground with a signpost pointing
North and South. A Neandrathal with obvious Caucasian features carrying
the CBF is knuckle-scraping his way South. In his ignorance he is
looking rather pleadingly to a well dressed African-American of obvious
social status who stands over the Neandrathal, pointing the way for
him. The caption below reads, "I condemn you to Brentwood until you
mend your ways". Satire?
Geoff
Jim Bushart
persons, such as myself, who can trace their "National Origin" to one known
as the Confederate States of America.
There are and have always been cultural, ethnic, and lifestyle flavors
unique to the Southern part of the United States and these traditions are
(in spite of the malicious efforts of some to destroy them) being
maintained.
Many of the uninformed limit their criticism to the unfortunate institution
of slavery - an institution protected by the United States Supereme Court
for the first eight to nine decades of United States history, I might add.
Without knowing all of the factors leading to war, they insist that the
destruction of Southern institutions is justified.
But to those of us who can trace our National Origin to an agricultural
country of nine million people who were militarily defeated by an
industrialized nation of twenty million people, there is as high of degree
of pride in calling ourselves Southern Confederate Americans as those who
call themselves "(insert name, here) Americans" of other national origin.
We mean no offense to anyone.
Jim
"Robert Taubman" <rtau...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Just what is a Southern Confederate American?
>
reb4...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>reb4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>> One man's racism is another man's satire. Perhaps that point
>> is not easily understood by folks like yourself.
>Picture this.
>The Mason-Dixon Line is painted on the ground with a signpost pointing
>North and South. A Neandrathal with obvious Caucasian features carrying
>the CBF is knuckle-scraping his way South. In his ignorance he is
>looking rather pleadingly to a well dressed African-American of obvious
>social status who stands over the Neandrathal, pointing the way for
>him. The caption below reads, "I condemn you to Brentwood until you
>mend your ways". Satire?
I would think so.
a.s.
William G. Davis
> Often, a person is asked to state their "National Origin" and there are
> persons, such as myself, who can trace their "National Origin" to one
known
> as the Confederate States of America.
>
Sure. Adam and Eve reappeared in Richmond in the summer of '62. LOL!
Get real!
--
Regards,
W. G. Jeff Davis
je...@heNOSPAMhe.com
"When looking for a clue as
to why something goes wrong,
never rule out sheer stupidity."
--Groucho Marx
snip
Bill Wright
> >
> > Often, a person is asked to state their "National Origin" and
> > there are persons, such as myself, who can trace their "National
> > Origin" to one known as the Confederate States of America.
"William G. Davis" wrote:
>
> Sure. Adam and Eve reappeared in Richmond in the summer of '62.
> LOL!
>
> Get real!
My, but you are an offensive son of a bitch, Jeff!
Bill
Rambler III
> Often, a person is asked to state their "National Origin" and there are
> persons, such as myself, who can trace their "National Origin" to one known
> as the Confederate States of America. . .
[snip]
Only if you were born between 1861 and 1865 in those areas not under Federal
control; which, by the way, would qualify you for entry into record books if not
the Bible. Otherwise, if you are a natural born citizen, your "National Origin"
is "United States of America".
Then, if you persist, CSA was not the Garden of Eden. There was something
before. Father and mother from the same "National Origin", and were their
parents, et al ad nauseam, born the same place?
I have NEVER, and I doubt seriously that you have either, been asked my
"National Origin", but I have been asked my "Place of Birth".
You need to give this assertion considerable rethought.
--
Rambler III
“There are the learned and the knowing. Memory makes the one, philosophy the
other,” said the Abbe ... “Well, then” Dantes replied, “what will you teach me
first? I am eager to begin; I thirst for knowledge.”
p146 The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas, Everman’s Library 393 1951
Geoff Blankenmeyer
And would you run it in the next issue of OWT with your name on it? Do
you think that the readers would take offense? If you did run it in the
OWT, wouldn't you use it only to demonstrate the North's view of the
South? In short, wouldn't it's use become a tool for flaming and
baiting and aggravating? I see no other purpose. In short, the
language of racism (or anti-Sotheronism) may have become a sort of
neologistic hybrid, but just like the language of politics, in time all
see through it. It all depends on how pernicious the symbols supporting
that language becomes. The "Free graphics" download from OWT spoke
volumes, no words needed. If that is the sentiment of Brentwood,
well... then so be it. But if it should spawn the kind of vermin that
dragged that black man to death in Texas, then I say let OWT's fate be
that of Richard Butler. And hell on earth can be a worse fate than
death. Ask Mr. Butler. Just my 2ข.
Geoff
Geoff Blankenmeyer
>
> Often, a person is asked to state their "National Origin" and there are
> persons, such as myself, who can trace their "National Origin" to one known
> as the Confederate States of America.
Not to pick nits Jim, but that wasn't at issue in this thread.
> We mean no offense to anyone.
Would you include Aryan Nation in that "We".
Geoff
Rich Rostrom
>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/
Dare I say that these people don't take themselves
very seriously?
And neither should anyone else.
--
Never consume legumes before transacting whatsoever | Rich Rostrom
even in the outermost courtyard of a descendant of |
Timur the Terrible. | rrostrom@dummy
--- Avram Davidson, _Dr. Bhumbo Singh_ | 21stcentury.net
William G. Davis
First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
--Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
--
Regards,
William G. Jeff Davis
je...@heNOSPAMhe.com
"There is no escape -
man drags man down,
or man lifts man up."
--Booker T. Washington
"Rich Rostrom" <rros...@21stcenturySpam.net> wrote in message
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Walter Jowers
"Geoff Blankenmeyer" <glb...@ticon.net> wrote in message
news:39CBF034...@ticon.net...
> reb4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> > >There are items there that virtually anybody would find racist.
> >
> > is not easily understood by folks like yourself.
>
> Picture this.
>
> North and South. A Neandrathal with obvious Caucasian features carrying
> the CBF is knuckle-scraping his way South. In his ignorance he is
> looking rather pleadingly to a well dressed African-American of obvious
> social status who stands over the Neandrathal, pointing the way for
> him. The caption below reads, "I condemn you to Brentwood until you
> mend your ways". Satire?
Satire, probably. Funny, not particularly. To make it funny, you'd have to
substitute, say, Watertown, for Brentwood.
WJ
Geoff Blankenmeyer
>
> ferguso...@aol.com (Ferguson Cletus) wrote:
>
> >http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/
>
> Dare I say that these people don't take themselves
> very seriously?
>
> And neither should anyone else.
And that would be your first mistake.
Geoff
Geoff Blankenmeyer
As long as you leave the welcome mat out. Your relatives are coming.
Geoff
reb4...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>reb4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:50:12 -0500, Geoff Blankenmeyer <glb...@ticon.net>
>> wrote:
>> >The Mason-Dixon Line is painted on the ground with a signpost pointing
>> >North and South. A Neandrathal with obvious Caucasian features carrying
>> >the CBF is knuckle-scraping his way South. In his ignorance he is
>> >looking rather pleadingly to a well dressed African-American of obvious
>> >social status who stands over the Neandrathal, pointing the way for
>> >him. The caption below reads, "I condemn you to Brentwood until you
>> >mend your ways". Satire?
>> I would think so.
>And would you run it in the next issue of OWT with your name on it? Do
>you think that the readers would take offense? If you did run it in the
>OWT, wouldn't you use it only to demonstrate the North's view of the
>South? In short, wouldn't it's use become a tool for flaming and
>baiting and aggravating? I see no other purpose.
You know, I'm not sure I get your point. And for the record, I
don't write the material. I am the domain registration contact.
>In short, the
>language of racism (or anti-Sotheronism) may have become a sort of
>neologistic hybrid, but just like the language of politics, in time all
>see through it. It all depends on how pernicious the symbols supporting
>that language becomes. The "Free graphics" download from OWT spoke
>volumes, no words needed. If that is the sentiment of Brentwood,
>well... then so be it.
And what's wrong with the free graphics? You'll find all sorts of
that sort of stuff (presuming you mean the two antique photographs
of black people) for sale at preposterously high prices on Ebay.
Further, let me repost a prior comment of mine to Dr. Pitcavage:
"It's a humor site, Mark. Like "The Onion", only for SCV members.
Items that the easily offended would call "racist" are there merely
because they elicit the same sort of reaction from some SCV
knuckleheads that they elicit from you."
IMO, if they were giving medals in Sydney for Jumping to a Conclusion
you'd have a shot at the gold.
>But if it should spawn the kind of vermin that
>dragged that black man to death in Texas, then I say let OWT's fate be
>that of Richard Butler. And hell on earth can be a worse fate than
>death. Ask Mr. Butler. Just my 2ข.
Chill out, Geoff. Sheesh......
a.s.
Walter Jowers
> Walter Jowers wrote:
> >
> > "Geoff Blankenmeyer" <glb...@ticon.net> wrote in message
> > news:39CBF034...@ticon.net...
> > > reb4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > >
> > > > >There are items there that virtually anybody would find racist.
> > > >
> > > > One man's racism is another man's satire. Perhaps that point
> > > > is not easily understood by folks like yourself.
> > >
> > > Picture this.
> > >
> > > North and South. A Neandrathal with obvious Caucasian features
carrying
> > > the CBF is knuckle-scraping his way South. In his ignorance he is
> > > looking rather pleadingly to a well dressed African-American of
obvious
> > > social status who stands over the Neandrathal, pointing the way for
> > > him. The caption below reads, "I condemn you to Brentwood until you
> > > mend your ways". Satire?
> >
to
> > substitute, say, Watertown, for Brentwood.
>
> As long as you leave the welcome mat out. Your relatives are coming.
Was that an attempt at funny? If so, that would explain why you don't get
the White Trash website, and have a string of two joke failures.
Some people are humor-impaired. And that's....okay. There have to be some
people in the world who don't get it, never did get it, and couldn't get it
if they lived a million years. They balance those of us who think just about
everything's funny, one way or another.
Before you make a Brentwood joke, go to Brentwood. It's an upscale bedroom
suburb, mostly full of bitter, relocated Yankees. Context and all that.
Just enjoying my new desktop wallpaper, of the moonman with the Confederate
flag...
WJ
Walter Jowers
There you go. Take the self-parody dead serious. Have you ever heard a
Richard Pryor album from the 70s? Ever tune in Chris Rock's HBO show?
WJ
reb4...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>And would you run it in the next issue of OWT with your name on it? Do
>you think that the readers would take offense? If you did run it in the
>OWT, wouldn't you use it only to demonstrate the North's view of the
>South? In short, wouldn't it's use become a tool for flaming and
>baiting and aggravating?
I've responded already, Geoff, but after sending it out I recollected
this little item on the OWT site, which you may have missed:
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/gaflag.htm
As you can see, the OWT are equal opportunity offenders.
Your point is now moot.
a.s.
Raymond O'Hara
of expresing their outrage.
Walter Jowers <walter...@nashville.com> wrote in message
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William G. Davis
"Walter Jowers" <walter...@nashville.com> wrote in message
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>
Maybe if more people would take "clowns" like this seriously, we wouldn't
have the problem with racism which we do have.
You obviously miss the point behind both Pryor and Rock.
There is no way to miss what's behind the OWT.
Go ahead and continue to bury your head Mr. Jowers. Make excuses, and make
acceptable, racism when you see it, and when you pretend not to see it. The
OWT is a very racist website. To claim it is satire makes it a sick joke,
and is a feeble attempt at defending its offensive message.
--
Regards,
William G. Jeff Davis
je...@heNOSPAMhe.com
"No man is an island entire of itself;
every man is a piece of the Continent,
a part of the main. . . . Any man’s death
diminishes me because I am involved in Mankind;
and therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."
--John Donne
Geoff Blankenmeyer
> > And that would be your first mistake.
> >
> > Geoff
>
> There you go. Take the self-parody dead serious. Have you ever heard a
> Richard Pryor album from the 70s? Ever tune in Chris Rock's HBO show?
Hey Wally;
I see the beta version of "You grunt, it types" is now up and running.
Oh, and btw. Congratulations on your new upgrade in evolution... to lab
rat. Watch those needles bubba!
Geoff
Geoff Blankenmeyer
> > And that would be your first mistake.
> >
> > Geoff
>
> There you go. Take the self-parody dead serious. Have you ever heard a
> Richard Pryor album from the 70s? Ever tune in Chris Rock's HBO show?
Alright Walt, I had my fun. Now let's deal with this post. Chris Rock,
Richard Pryor, et. al. at least have the chicones to talk about those
issues that they feel make a strong negative social commentary about
their race. According to you so does OWT. But it's a whitewash,
literally and figuratively. If not, then take my idea for a cartoon and
submit it to OWT for publication in their graphics download with
absolutely no explaination and see the reaction it gets. If given the
opportunity to change places, Pryor would do it. So would Rock. In
short, your anaology couldn't be worse.
Also, when you see Rock onstage, where are all the statues of CBF
Neandrathals? Where are all the most obvious race-baiting references
and epithets of whites that you commonly see at OWT re: blacks? In
short, not only is your comparison off target, it is hopelessly myopic.
Last, you want respect for your heritage? You want to maintain control
of those symbols that you say are about heritage and not hate? Then
quit muddying up the message with the race-baiting horseshit. Or your
are going the way of the Luddites. You see... Social Darwinism does
work. It's working right now (Read Butler).
Your choice Walt.
Geoff
reb4...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>Also, when you see Rock onstage, where are all the statues of CBF
>Neandrathals? Where are all the most obvious race-baiting references
>and epithets of whites that you commonly see at OWT re: blacks?
Race-baiting? Don't make me laugh. Feel free to post 'em right
here, so everyone can see your hysteria in action.
a.s.
Geoff Blankenmeyer
Have fun Allen. You've been exposed. Darwin's gonna getcha!
Kill-file.
reb4...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>reb4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 11:20:36 -0500, Geoff Blankenmeyer <glb...@ticon.net>
>> wrote:
>> >Also, when you see Rock onstage, where are all the statues of CBF
>> >Neandrathals? Where are all the most obvious race-baiting references
>> >and epithets of whites that you commonly see at OWT re: blacks?
>> Race-baiting? Don't make me laugh. Feel free to post 'em right
>> here, so everyone can see your hysteria in action.
>Have fun Allen. You've been exposed. Darwin's gonna getcha!
>Kill-file.
A typical chicken-s**t move. You make wild accusations, and as
soon as you are asked to make your case you stick your head
in the sand. The only person who's been "exposed" here is you.
a.s.
Walter Jowers
> Walter Jowers wrote:
>
> > > And that would be your first mistake.
> > >
> > > Geoff
> >
> > There you go. Take the self-parody dead serious. Have you ever heard a
> > Richard Pryor album from the 70s? Ever tune in Chris Rock's HBO show?
>
>
> I see the beta version of "You grunt, it types" is now up and running.
> Oh, and btw. Congratulations on your new upgrade in evolution... to lab
> rat. Watch those needles bubba!
>
> Geoff
You know what's funny? The fact that your very best attempt at humor is so
pathetically unfunny.
Geez, go get some funny lessons, or just stick with the dull, predictable
act you've already refined.
WJ
Walter Jowers
> Walter Jowers wrote:
>
> > > And that would be your first mistake.
> > >
> > > Geoff
> >
> > There you go. Take the self-parody dead serious. Have you ever heard a
> > Richard Pryor album from the 70s? Ever tune in Chris Rock's HBO show?
>
You call that fun?
>Now let's deal with this post. Chris Rock,
> Richard Pryor, et. al. at least have the chicones
Cojones. I don't think "chicone" is a word, in English or Spanish. When
writing, it helps to not be ignorant as hell about the words you use.
>to talk about those
> issues that they feel make a strong negative social commentary about
> their race. According to you so does OWT.
I didn't say that. That's your conclusion, based on the snakes in your head.
> But it's a whitewash,
Finally! You said something funny!
> literally and figuratively.
Well, not literally. See, literal whitewashing would involve painting with
lime. Read Mark Twain.
>If not, then take my idea for a cartoon and
> submit it to OWT for publication in their graphics download with
> absolutely no explaination and see the reaction it gets.
No need. I know they'd reject it. It's not a funny cartoon idea. It's
actually *un*funny.
>If given the
> opportunity to change places, Pryor would do it. So would Rock.
Now *that's* racist.
>In
> short, your anaology couldn't be worse.
I don't recall making an "anaology."
> Also, when you see Rock onstage, where are all the statues of CBF
> Neandrathals?
Uh, not part of his act, because it wouldn't be *funny?*
>Where are all the most obvious race-baiting references
> and epithets of whites that you commonly see at OWT re: blacks?
Sez Chris Rock (I paraphrase): This week, we'll deal with a growing problem:
White girls with black girls' asses. It's kinda racist. But I laughed
anyway. I can do that, and suffer no damage.
>In
> short, not only is your comparison off target, it is hopelessly myopic.
I just asked you if you ever listened to Pryor and/or Rock. Didn't make a
comparison. Maybe you can turn up the corners of your mouth and make a
"hehe" sound, but I don't think you can laugh. Are you French? Do you think
Jerry Lewis is funny?
> Last, you want respect for your heritage?
You're making an assumption, bubba. My knowledge of my heritage runs dry
about 1900. Show me where I talk about my heritage.
>You want to maintain control
> of those symbols that you say are about heritage and not hate?
I didn't say that. Not my heritage, as far as I know.
>Then
> quit muddying up the message with the race-baiting horseshit.
Haven't done that, either. Just said you don't know funny. The OWT site is
funny. At least in places.
>Or your
> are going the way of the Luddites.
Do you know what a Luddite is?
>You see... Social Darwinism does
> work. It's working right now (Read Butler).
If you had a point, you didn't make it. Read Hunter Thompson.
WJ
William G. Davis
snip
> >Then
> > quit muddying up the message with the race-baiting horseshit.
>
> Haven't done that, either. Just said you don't know funny. The OWT site is
> funny. At least in places.
If you think it funny then you are as much a racist as the proprietors of
the website.
Or.....nah....you aren't that stupid, Walter.
snip
>
> >You see... Social Darwinism does
> > work. It's working right now (Read Butler).
>
> If you had a point, you didn't make it. Read Hunter Thompson.
He made it. You choose to ignore it. Try reading Malcom X.
--
Regards,
William G. Jeff Davis
je...@heNOSPMAhe.com
"The difference between de jure and
de facto segregation is the difference
between open, forthright bigotry and the
shamefaced kind that works through unwritten
agreements between real estate dealers,
school officials, and local politicians."
Shirley Chisholm
Champ Ferguson
>From: "William G. Davis" je...@heNOSPAMhe.com
>Date: 9/23/00 6:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ssqb9es...@corp.supernews.com>
>
>
>
>
>First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up,
> because I wasn’t a Communist.
>Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up,
> because I wasn’t a Jew.
>Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up,
> because I was a Protestant.
>Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one
> left to speak up for me.
> --Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
>
>
>Regards,
>
>William G. Jeff Davis
>
>"Rich Rostrom" <rros...@21stcenturySpam.net> wrote in message
>news:rrostrom-166B0B...@news.21stcentury.net...
>>
>> >http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/
>>
>> Dare I say that these people don't take themselves
>> very seriously?
>>
They take themselves very seriously but they also are smart enough to
smokescreen what they think and do. The quote by William Davis is very
appropriate to the Order Of White Trash members because those members not only
belong to the Sons of Confederate veterans but they also belong to some more
serious organizations. The Sons of Confederate Veterans itself just a heritage
organization but there are other organizations that go beyond heritage into
areas of racial hatred or in its mildest form racial dislike.
This web page
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/cfish.htm
exposes Crawfish as a white homosexual who has black boyfriend and includes
more than one photograph of the man. This is not funny as the OWT website is
supposed to be according to its webmaster, Allen Sullivant. It is bigotry.
Sullivant may declare that he only uploads materials from supposed strangers.
That is highly unusual for anyone to do. Also a website can not exist at all if
someone did not upload the materials and place then in sub directories and then
link them all together. Sullivant is more involved and knows more than he lets
on. Who have you ever known that creates an entire website with many materials
if text, images, and actual photographs as seen on the Order of White Trash
website and yet declares they don't know who sends the materials. What a
brilliant man Sullivant must be to do this.
I will append a portion of this particular page that also includes Dr. Mark
Pitcavage who is highly disliked by many of the members of the OWT. It was not
long ago that he linked his Militia Watchdog website to a southern website that
some of the OTW members belong to.
-- append --
"Welcome to the Militia Watchdog. This World Wide Web page brings you the
latest information available on the growth and nature of the neo-militia
movement. The neo-militia movement is a large and widespread movement that
poses a clear threat to peace and safety. As the largest component of the
diverse "patriot" movement, which includes common law courts, sovereign
citizens, tax protesters, Christian patriots, white supremacists and other
extreme groups, the militia movement is in the vanguard of anti-government
extremism. "
Or so says Sparky, the Militia Watch Dog, through his alter-ego, Texas-born
scalawag andself-proclaimed "expert" Mark Pitcavage. Why do the editors of
Looky Here! include this site on this page? Because, according to Pitcavage,
those who have "Neo-Confederate"sympathies are part and parcel of this
"extremist movement". Nice, huh? Why don't youdrop Ol' Sparky a line, and
let him know he's as loony as the people he pretends to watch.
-- end --
One of the goals in adding Dr Pitcavages email, and others elses, is to have
his mail box flooded with unwanted mail.
The areas that do have satire and humor exist for a smoke screen but even they
carry a message of insults and / or hatred other than what humor may be
obvious.
Where is the satire in any of these materials on Ed Sebasta?
Where is the satiire in any of the statements on Dr Pitcavage?
Where is the supposed sense of humor with either of those two people? It is not
there. It does not exist. The materials are there because of hatred and anger.
The web master for that website (Allen Sullivant) is responsible for that
website existing. If not for him uploading materials and linking them no
website could exist. I do not believe for one second that anyone would be so
foolish as to create a website like the OWT and not know who the materials come
from. Only a fool would believe it. Regardless he knows what the materials
state and show and he puts it all together.
Meanwhile this same man, Allen Sullivant, has risen to Lieutenant Commander in
the Tennessee Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
Further, he has reached deeper into National Headquarters by creating the
website www.battleflag.org for the Sons of Confederate Veterans. He is, in all
of my beliefs, strongly racist and is climbing the ladder of the SCV. If he
should gain more power then he will "guide" the SCV in a direction of than
"Heritage Not Hate". He has already been doing this with his private
(unofficial) SCV Echo listserver where he suggests things to people there that
he knows. I have been there and have seen it.
You would be stunned at some of the racist remarks. I certainly was.
Email me to get more information that I am not willing to post in the open. If
I do not answer you there are others that may contact you.
The smoke screen must be cleared enough for everyone to know what these people
really are like and it is not just men. The (unofficial) SCV Echo has women on
it that belong to southern organizations or have strong southern beliefs as old
as pre Civil War.
Tennessee SCV Leadership
Commander Russell B. Bailey
Lt. Commander Allen Sullivant <reb4...@tennessee-scv.org> but here he writes
as reb4...@bellsouth.net and signs with
a.s.
Champ Ferguson
>From: reb4...@bellsouth.net
>Date: 9/23/00 11:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <39ce7179...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>
>
>On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:36:40 -0500, Geoff Blankenmeyer <glb...@ticon.net>
>wrote:
>
>>And would you run it in the next issue of OWT with your name on it? Do
>>you think that the readers would take offense? If you did run it in the
>>OWT, wouldn't you use it only to demonstrate the North's view of the
>>South? In short, wouldn't it's use become a tool for flaming and
>>baiting and aggravating?
>
>I've responded already, Geoff, but after sending it out I recollected
>this little item on the OWT site, which you may have missed:
>
>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/gaflag.htm
That is a new image. I have the entire OWT website in an Adobe Acrobat (4.05a)
.PDF file. You added that one recently to show it here. It's just another
smokescreen.
>As you can see, the OWT are equal opportunity offenders.
>
>Your point is now moot.
>
>a.s.
That entire website will never be moot. It is a racist website created by you,
Allen Sullivant of Brentwood, Tennessee; Lt Cmdr in the SCV.
Champ Ferguson
Date: 9/25/00 2:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <20000925144225...@ng-fd1.aol.com>
Champ Ferguson
>Date: 9/24/00 1:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <39ce3f76...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>
>
>On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:36:18 -0500, Geoff Blankenmeyer <glb...@ticon.net>
>wrote:
>
>>reb4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
>>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 11:20:36 -0500, Geoff Blankenmeyer <glb...@ticon.net>
>>> wrote:
>
>>> >Also, when you see Rock onstage, where are all the statues of CBF
>>> >and epithets of whites that you commonly see at OWT re: blacks?
>
>>> here, so everyone can see your hysteria in action.
>
>>Have fun Allen. You've been exposed. Darwin's gonna getcha!
>>Kill-file.
>
>A typical chicken-s**t move. You make wild accusations, and as
>soon as you are asked to make your case you stick your head
>in the sand. The only person who's been "exposed" here is you.
>
>a.s.
And you and your racist website (a.s.) Allen Sullivant of Brentwood, Tennessee;
Lieutenant Commander in the SCV.
Mike Gallagher
you don't really expect those of us with half a brain to believe that YOUR
website is "supposed" to be humorous, now do you? Are we also to expect that
this form of satire is only found in Brentwood,TN? If so, I guess that would
explain why you would know so much on the topic.
<reb4...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message .
> > One man's racism is another man's satire. Perhaps that point
> is not easily understood by folks like yourself.
>
> a.s.
>
Mike Gallagher
Sounds like double-talk to me. We are going after abuse of the
Confederate flag by a racist and yet we are now going to "peg" an "assumed"
racist by nothing else other than colors in the background of a website? God
forbid I wear a black shirt & red necktie to my next meeting/affair. I shall
then assume I would be "pegged" a racist or a nazi? Shall I go ahead then &
trade in my black w/red pin stripe vehicle for something of a lesser "nazi"
effect? Let's not go to the radical extremes with all of this. Let's be
real.
The OWT IS racist.
I see nothing on the VA Division, SCV website of any racist nature other
than any underlying creations formed from one's own mind.
Visit the OWT. That is the racist website and is owned/run/managed by one
true
Anti-Confederate Allen Sullivant.
"Sam Davis 1861" <samdav...@aol.com> wrote in > The colors of red and
black are appropriate for a Nazi website.
Mike Gallagher
How ignorant, unintelligent, and foolish do you think we all are? What
better ploy than to have yourself "set up" on the OWT to make yourself
"appear" uninvolved & pure. Would you please put the round peg in the round
hole? The rest of us are on page 2 now. Keep up Allen. We're not riding the
short bus from Brentwood.
<reb4...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
I recollected this little item on the OWT site, which you may have missed:
Mike Gallagher
I don't know which is worse. The fact that you have lied for years about
having ANYTHING to do with the website and are now finally coming clean to
being the domain registration contact OR that you expect us to believe
after the years of lying that we would believe you now when you say you
"don't write the material".
Why don't you just admit it. You DO know who is directly involved in the
creation of the contents and for whatever reason you are protecting them
(that is, if "they" are not actually "you"). Why? Name them if they are not
in fact you. Let us all know who they are. Otherwise chap, your "friends"
from the OWT have left you out here alone, to fend for yourself, which,
quiet honestly, you can not do.
<reb4...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message >
Mike Gallagher
Isn't that "move" one that is taught in the 'Brentwood School of OWT'?
Tell me why then one would play "dress up" and portray a military figure
and have the audacity to use a false identity?
If you and your fellow OWT's (Ostrich Wimp Talkers) are so bold and
manly, be proud of being what you claim to be: TRASH. Expose the identities
of those involved if not you son.
You were exposed long ago, you are still being exposed today, and more
exposure is yet to come tomorrow.
I take great offense, being retired military, that there is a portrayal
of someone who "supposedly" served on that website and goes by a false
identity. What country did he serve in? Not mine. Your "General
Scuttlebutt" is nothing more than a deckmonkey, grunt, jarhead, or any other
term you'd like to use! You, son, need to go in for a few years.
You need some basic training.
<reb4...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
Sam Davis 1861
In reading through these messages I have sen something else. Dr. Pitcavahe
has a website that links to racists websites. One of his links connects to
Grey...@aol.com, Michael Masters. Mike is the Sons of Confederate Veterans
5TH Brigade Commander in Virginia. Recently he took over the SCV Virginia
Division website through appointment of Henry Kidd. http://www.vascv.org/
The colors of red and black are appropriate for a Nazi website. In a previous
message someone wrote that these people that are racists in the SCV are
climbing the SCV ladder. Apparently that is a fact. As racists climb that
ladder the Sons of Confederate veterans is going downhill. It was also
written that Allen Sullivant is a Lt Commander in the Tennessee Division. The
point was made that sincere people in heritage organizations like the SCV and
UDC will be ignored when they declare Heritage not hate and I can see why.
Look at Masters' website Dr Pitcavage is linked to and see if you do not think
it looks racist to you. Decide for yourselves. I don't know how long Dr.
Pitcavage has been linked to that website butv obviously he knows what he is
doing to have pegged Mike Masters so well and before he became the SCV Virginia
5TH brigade commander. It isn't too far to go to become the SCV Commander in
Chief from that point. Some say that the SCV isn't racist but these websites
and these positions of authority are proving that wrong.
-Sam
>Subject: Re: SCV-OWT members and Racism
>From: Mark Pitcavage spa...@militia-watchdog.org
>Date: 9/22/00 9:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <memmss4of78o0r7lp...@4ax.com>
>
>The Order of White Trash website is indeed a racist website and has
>been for some time. It has had graphics such as the one listed below
>for quite a while.
>
>
>
>
>On 21 Sep 2000 21:02:30 GMT, champf...@aol.com (Champ Ferguson)
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Back issues of _Looky Here_, an electronic publication started many years
>ago
>>that is designed to demean anyone who does not agree with the members of the
>>order of white trash who are racists judging from what they write and place
>>into their webpages. Although they are members in the Sons of Confederate
>>Veterans who may seek to climb that ladder of command to get control of the
>SCV
>>we should also consider that they also are members of racists organizations.
>
>>
>>Too, consider the League Of The South; Heritage Protection Association and
>>other such organizations.
>>
>>We may ask about the old Ku Klux Klan but if we do we should also consider
>that
>>the old Klan has a new look to it and their racist mentality remains much
>the
>>same.
>>
>>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/backiss.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>" Mammy say 'It jest ain't fittin ta miss em.' "
>>
>>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/mammy.jpg
>>
>>[image of a African-American woman called "Mammy"]
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Sam Davis 1861
Dr. Pitcavage's link to the Sons of neo-Confederate Veterans, Virginia Division
5th brigade commander's web site owned by Mike Masters (Grey...@aol.com) who
also created the SCV Virginia Division website thanks to Henry Kidd who
displays his art there. Hint, hint, hint.
Southern Independence.
Http://members.aol.com/GrayFox65/south.html. A site for people who want to
"take our country back from the Abolitionists, Bolsheviks and One-World elites
who hold our heritage hostage." An uncompromisingly white supremacist
Neo-Confederate site.
>Subject: Re: SCV-OWT members and Racism
>From: samdav...@aol.com (Sam Davis 1861)
>Date: 9/25/00 9:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20000925210946...@ng-me1.aol.com>
reb4...@bellsouth.net
>>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/gaflag.htm
>
>That is a new image. I have the entire OWT website in an Adobe Acrobat (4.05a)
>.PDF file. You added that one recently to show it here. It's just another
>smokescreen.
Wrong. It's been there over a year, with the last slight modification
coming in February of this year. Obviously you didn't save the
site down past the second tier. That's pretty stupid of you, isn't it?
Enjoy your little games, Maury, because they won't last much
longer.
a.s.
reb4...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>Allen,
> I don't know which is worse.
<snip>
Hi Maury.
a.s.
Allen Sullivant
Brentwood, Tennessee
http://www.tennessee-scv.org
"The first casualty in war is truth." ~ Bob Johns, 1930~2000
reb4...@bellsouth.net
>I agree with Dr. Pitcavage. The Order Of White Trash website is racist.
Gee Maury, why don't you just take my camp name and number
next time (Sam Davis 1293)? It would look much cooler!
AfricanAmerican5
>Date: 9/22/00 2:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20000922025248...@ng-fd1.aol.com>
>
>>Subject: SCV-OWT members and Racism
>>From: champf...@aol.com (Champ Ferguson)
>>Date: 9/21/00 5:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <20000921170230...@ng-cq1.aol.com>
>>
>>
>>Back issues of _Looky Here_, an electronic publication started many years
>ago
>>that is designed to demean anyone who does not agree with the members of the
>>order of white trash who are racists judging from what they write and place
>>into their webpages. Although they are members in the Sons of Confederate
>>Veterans who may seek to climb that ladder of command to get control of the
>>SCV
>>we should also consider that they also are members of racists organizations.
>
>>
>>Too, consider the League Of The South; Heritage Protection Association and
>>other such organizations.
>>
>>We may ask about the old Ku Klux Klan but if we do we should also consider
>>that
>>the old Klan has a new look to it and their racist mentality remains much
>the
>>same.
>>
>>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/backiss.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>" Mammy say 'It jest ain't fittin ta miss em.' "
>>
>>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/mammy.jpg
>>
>>[image of a African-American woman called "Mammy"]
>>
>
>
>http://www.register.com
>
>There is a blank space to search for domain names.
>
>Enter: orderofwhitetrash
>
>place a check mark beside .com
>
>Click on "Check It"
>
>results= Taken
>
>orderofwhitetrash.com
>
>Click on the link to see who has registered this name.
>
>
>http://www.register.com/whois-results.cgi?
>1|2091260319|CO1&domain=orderofwhitetrash.com
>
>Registrant: OWT (ORDEROFWHITETRASH-DOM) P. O. Box 3448 Brentwood, TN 37024 US
>
>Domain Name: orderofwhitetrash.com
>
>Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
>Ferguson Cletus (FC2615-ORG)
>champn...@EMAIL.COM
>
>OWT
>
>P.O. Box 3448 Brentwood ,
>
>TN 37024 US 615-373-0058
>
>
>Compare the phone number above with a person search on
>http://www.switchboard.com
>
>Type in Brentwood, TN and type in Sullivant for the last name.
>
>The results show that it is Allen Sullivant's phone number in Brentwood,
>Tennessee.
>
>He uses the alias, Ferguson Cletus, just as he uses reb4...@bellsouth.com
>and
>other aliases.
>
>
>While he tries to focus on the name Maury in this newsgroup the point remains
>the same. He is one of those who put together the Order Of White Trash
>website.
>He claims he gets the articles from persons unknown to him and that he only
>uploads articles from strangers. Yet without uploading the materials and then
>placing them in a subdirectory as well as linking them there would be no
>website. That is how a website is created. On that website former Sons Of
>Confederate Veterans officers he and his friends dislike are written about as
>seen in an
>earlier post here under this thread.
>
>Even some SCV member's wives are trashed.
>
>His group are by all appearances racists and yet they belong to the Sons of
>Confederate Veterans. While some in the SCV work hard and declare, "Heritage
>Not Hate", in all seriousness and sincerity there yet remains these factions
>with members who also belong to other pro south
>groups. They have already been mentioned in a previous post under this
>thread.
>He wrote once in a reply that he works for a legal firm, or is associated
>with
>one. I suspect he meant the League Of The South. I have not checked recently
>but I would suppose that is one of the areas
>where Dr. Mark Pitcavage has a link to with his "Militia Watchdog" website.
>There is a good reason why someone like Dr. Pitcavage would be watching a
>website like that. The members are not what they appear to be so they have to
>be watched by the good people who care. Long ago there was a Holocaust and
>the
>people declared, "Never Again". It was a terrible thing that all of us should
>pay attention to and watch as Dr. Mark Pitcavage does lest another form of
>evil
>grows in strength. There are people who are so subversive that they want to
>create a new
>Confederacy. The use of the term, Neo-Con, is a good use in these situations.
>I
>believe that while some persons in the SCV display the appearance of peace
>and
>heritage on one hand there are some who have plans to do more and do the
>opposite IF they can climb the ladder within the SCV and work from inside to
>alter its course of "Heritage, not Hate" and remove all of the grannies and
>mushrooms (their terms for sincere workers) to be replaced with members such
>as
>those who are in The Order Of White Trash who also belong to other
>organizations that carry
>hatreds into society. Another would be the NAAWP, The National Association
>for
>the Advancement of White People which was once headed by David Duke of the Ku
>Klux Klan. Then there is the Aryan Nation and others to be considered. All of
>these are connected in some way and where there are sincere Sons of
>Confederate
>Veterans interested in their Heritage without Hate, there are also those in
>it
>who think that most of the SCV leaders are not hardcore enough.
>
>You have met "Mammy" on the OWT website
>
>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/backiss.htm
>
>Now look at this one and these are not the only racist areas on the Order Of
>White Trash website where the word redneck is coveted as being racist.
>
>
>While many members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans cry out "Heritage Not
>Hate" in all sincerity, behind their backs on the website, "Order Of White
>Trash", registered to Allen Sullivant, are things like this:--
>
>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/whee.htm
>
>
>It shows an animated .gif image of a white man walking up to the NAACP symbol
>the NAACP cherishes and "peeing on it". I tend to think the NAACP logo is
>copyrighted but there it is on the OWT website.
>
>
>These things are designed to tear down the true Sons of Confederate Veterans
>from within, to reshape it (their way). Who would then believe all of those
>who
>are sincere when declaring. Heritage Not Hate" when these things are seen on
>webpages of the "Order Of White Trash", many of which also declare a
>protection
>of the SCV (their way) and have SCV symbols (copyrighted) and SCV Links.
>
>Subject: Re: SCV-OWT members and Racism
>From: reb4...@bellsouth.net
>Date: 9/25/00 9:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <39d02a6b...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>
Everyone new that you see you think is me and you are wrong. You and your OWT
website annoyed a lot of people that you trashed. You did so before you trashed
me. But I am used to you and your garbage friends so whatever you place there
doesn't make any difference to me. Call me African- American. I saw where you
wondered about nobody ever having seen me. You never knew why I chose never
have been seen by any SCV "Compatriots". You never knew why I never have
attended any SCV meetings even though I once lived very close to the 19th
Virginia Infantry SCV Camp meeting area but not even that camp commander ever
saw me and I had my reasons. That is how inefficient the likes of you are.
While members of the SCV seek out Confederate African Americans, or
descendants, the likes of you and your friends prove you really don't want them
in the organization other than public relations. On your personal Echo
Listserver there were people asking me if I could say the "N*GG*ER word". Your
racist friends were enraged when I said I never fly the Confederate flag but I
do fly the Srars and Stripes every day and every night. You people live in the
past including with the racial biases, one you see as being glorious, one that
does not and never will belong to you.How very little do your foolish friends
know me but I gained insight into the personalities of those racist white
southerners on your listserver. That is the only reason I subscribed --- and
after you had declared I would never be allowed to subscribe -- I defeated you
even in that as well as debated you on your own listserver. "Second teir", what
a joke. If you knew about .PDF files you would know there was no "second teir"
to capture. It captures everything there. In short, you placed that recent
image there to throw people off course. It is but another of many smoke screens
you have used.
I myself do not have your website in a .pdf files but I know where they are
archived. There are many of them -- one every month and archived on internet
where someone captures your website and stores them each month to see what
changes take place and to keep all of them intact. All anyone has to do is
download the free Adobe Reader from www.adobe.com to read any or all of them.
It's true that you added that image recently, very recently because the
previous .pdf file doesn't show it and when you download an entire website
Adobe Acrobat saves *everything* including links and all links work. The value
is that anything can be searched quickly and .PDF files are cross-platform.
Your mention of a "tier" shows your lack of knowledge on the subject because
the entire website is saved to one .PDF file. All links remain intact. Every
thing gets archived in those .pdf files and it is easily seen that the newest
file in question was added very recently. You just tried to produce another
smoke screen to mislead people but the OWT website speaks for itself by the
offensive nature of its content and it speaks for those who created and
maintain it -- people like you.
AfricanAmerican5
Dr. Pitcavage is correct about the OWT website.
>Subject: Re: SCV-OWT members and Racism
>From: Mark Pitcavage spa...@militia-watchdog.org
>Date: 9/22/00 9:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <memmss4of78o0r7lp...@4ax.com>
>
>The Order of White Trash website is indeed a racist website and has
>been for some time. It has had graphics such as the one listed below
>for quite a while.
>
>
>
>
>On 21 Sep 2000 21:02:30 GMT, champf...@aol.com (Champ Ferguson)
>wrote:
>
>>
reb4...@bellsouth.net
(AfricanAmerican5) wrote:
>Dr. Pitcavage is correct about the OWT website.
africana...@aol.com (AfricanAmerican5) = Maury
samdav...@aol.com (Sam Davis 1861) = Maury
"Mike Gallagher" <Celtic...@yahoo.com> = Maury
champf...@aol.com (Champ Ferguson) = Maury
whoyou...@aol.com (Whoyouseeisme) = Maury
scv...@my-deja.com = Maury
Grow up, Maury.
a.s.
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<snip of aliases I did not use>
>>Dr. Pitcavage is correct about the OWT website.
>Grow up, Maury.
>
>a.s.
Allen Sullivant,
I was told you had been posting about me out here again. You are the one who
needs some help in /"Growing up"/ if only from observing your "Order Of White
Trash" website if nothing else.
As to your statement I glanced at moments ago about a trace route you certainly
do not seem to know what you were writing about.
Still, you can give me that "call" you mentioned to me anytime you feel up to
it.
As for those aliases you have attributed to be me above you are mistaken. There
is where you need to / Wake up. /
As to the statements I have seen here so far about your Order of White Trash
web site they are remain /true/ regardless what anyone says or does.
Looky Here "chicken-s**t", as you wrote here to another --
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>Dr. Pitcavage is correct about the OWT website.
>
>>Date: 9/22/00 9:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <memmss4of78o0r7lp...@4ax.com>
>>
>>The Order of White Trash website is indeed a racist website and has
>>been for some time. It has had graphics such as the one listed below
>>for quite a while.
Yes, he sure the Hell is. What's new?
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Raymond O'Hara
read it except for this thread. sometimes attacking people gives them the
publicty they crave .
Champ Ferguson <champf...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000925144225...@ng-fd1.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: SCV-OWT members and Racism
> >From: reb4...@bellsouth.net
> >Date: 9/23/00 11:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <39ce7179...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>
> >
> >On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:36:40 -0500, Geoff Blankenmeyer
<glb...@ticon.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>And would you run it in the next issue of OWT with your name on it? Do
> >>you think that the readers would take offense? If you did run it in the
> >>OWT, wouldn't you use it only to demonstrate the North's view of the
> >>South? In short, wouldn't it's use become a tool for flaming and
> >>baiting and aggravating?
> >
> >I've responded already, Geoff, but after sending it out I recollected
> >this little item on the OWT site, which you may have missed:
> >
> >http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/gaflag.htm
>
> That is a new image. I have the entire OWT website in an Adobe Acrobat
(4.05a)
> .PDF file. You added that one recently to show it here. It's just another
> smokescreen.
>
>
> >As you can see, the OWT are equal opportunity offenders.
> >
> >Your point is now moot.
> >
> >a.s.
>
>
reb4...@bellsouth.net
<snip>
ltcm...@aol.com (LTCMDR612) = Maury
Traceroute strikes again.
Grow up, Maury.
a.s.
Mark Pitcavage
wrote:
>I will append a portion of this particular page that also includes Dr. Mark
>Pitcavage who is highly disliked by many of the members of the OWT. It was not
>long ago that he linked his Militia Watchdog website to a southern website that
>some of the OTW members belong to.
It is interesting that as long as I have been doing what I've been
doing, I have only received one death threat, and that came from
someone who had been visiting the League of the South website.
Mark Pitcavage
>>There are items there that virtually anybody would find racist.
>
>One man's racism is another man's satire. Perhaps that point
>is not easily understood by folks like yourself.
Minstrel shows are a racist form of satire. Much of that website is
simply a virtual minstrel show. Other parts of it, such as the
graphic of the person pissing on the NAACP, are simply blatantly
racist without any satire at all.
I am quite sad to learn that you are associated with this racist
website.
Mike Gallagher
Just who is "Maury"? I beg your pardon son, but you obviously have me
mistaken with someone else who is upset with you, rightfully so I assume.
I would guess this "Maury" gentleman is yet another victim from your OWT
site? However, may I kindly remind you, you have made many other enemies out
in this world. Surely you don't honestly believe one man would go to that
much trouble for you, now do you? Quite honestly, you are simply not worth
it.
My suggestion to you would be rid yourself of the monkey on your back
(OWT), grow up, and become a man with a backbone.
<reb4...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message Grow up, Maury.
a.s.
Mike Gallagher
Allen,
Please put your reading glasses on before you start writing such
ignorant postings. The name is Mike, son, not Maury.( I thought I was the
only one getting old and could see clearly anymore.)
Please get that much straight before you put any other postings out. I
don't know who you are referring to when you write Maury. (Unless that is
one of your invisible friends that lives with you in the chicken-coop in
Brentwood,TN)
Thank you.
Mike Gallagher
are offended by you, your website, and your ideals/mannerisms to find the
source of your SCV connection and have you expelled. You have saved us a
great deal of time and effort. Now, could you work on getting some new
ideals/mannerisms? We have grown tired of your old ones. Son, you need to
realize that those of us who have been around the block a time or two are
really tired of the boyhood games you continue to play. This is a man's
world. Join in or get out.
<reb4...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"I told you so" a.s.Sullivant.
m.
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>From: Mark Pitcavage spa...@militia-watchdog.org
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Pitman, I once thought you were just totally anti- Southern but over time I
have learned otherwise and I am pleased that you keep the website that you do
because I think we need that and more like it. As seen posted openly here you
have Linked to a website owned by Grey...@aol.com
His name was stated and information about him was stated and that information
is correct. I hope that you never receive any more "death threats" but please
do be aware that many people who may plan something like that would not warn
you -- they would just do it. The Aryan Nation got their butts kicked recently.
kind regards.
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/26/00 3:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <39d11f43...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>
Poppycock, Allen Sullivant. I have used this account and signed my full name
with it here for years as anyone here who has been here awhile knows. You are
nobody to tell anybody to "grow up" while you own and maintain your stupid
"Order Of White Trash" racist website.
LTCMDR612
>Message-id: <39d02a6b...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>
>
>On 25 Sep 2000 18:42:25 GMT, champf...@aol.com (Champ Ferguson) wrote:
>
>>>http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/gaflag.htm
>>
>>That is a new image. I have the entire OWT website in an Adobe Acrobat
>(4.05a)
>>.PDF file. You added that one recently to show it here. It's just another
>>smokescreen.
>
>Wrong. It's been there over a year, with the last slight modification
>coming in February of this year.
You are a lying, Allen Sullivant. That image is new and was placed there to
offset a comment made by another who posted against your racist REBsite,
Lieutenant Commander Sullivant in the SCV of the Tennessee Division.
>Enjoy your little games, Maury, because they won't last much
>longer.
The "little games" belong to you on your UNOFFICIAL Copy-Cat- to- deceive- new-
SCV- Members "SCV Echo" Listserver --- and on your
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com REBsite.
>a.s.
>
>
>
>
>
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/26/00 2:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <BJ8A5.28873$pu4.2...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>
>
>the owt strikes me as pretty lame. and i would never have heard of it or
>read it except for this thread. sometimes attacking people gives them >the
publicty they crave .
There was a time when few, if any, really knew a man named Hitler who had plans
to take over Germany, and he did so, step-by-goosestep.
He wrote his plans in his book and few or nobody bothered to look. He had to
leave behind too few precious lives, but they remained to say to the World,
"Never Again!" -- and justly so. We are supposed to learn from history of the
past and I for one intend to do exactly that. Only evil fears the light because
it cannot hide and when it cannot hide it cannot grow unless people are so
complacent to allow it to be so. It happened in the past and it can happen
again in smaller ways -- but each and every little way counts. Don't think it
doesn't. It's called growth.
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com is small in the eyes of some but it is only
part of something a lot bigger. I am not guessing -- I know.
==========================
>Champ Ferguson <champf...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20000925144225...@ng-fd1.aol.com...
>> >Subject: Re: SCV-OWT members and Racism
>> >From: reb4...@bellsouth.net
>> >Date: 9/23/00 11:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>> >Message-id: <39ce7179...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>
>> >
>> >On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:36:40 -0500, Geoff Blankenmeyer
><glb...@ticon.net>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>And would you run it in the next issue of OWT with your name on it? Do
>> >>you think that the readers would take offense? If you did run it in the
>> >>OWT, wouldn't you use it only to demonstrate the North's view of the
>> >>South? In short, wouldn't it's use become a tool for flaming and
>> >>baiting and aggravating?
>> >
>> >I've responded already, Geoff, but after sending it out I recollected
>> >this little item on the OWT site, which you may have missed:
>> >
>> >http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/gaflag.htm
>>
>> That is a new image. I have the entire OWT website in an Adobe Acrobat
>(4.05a)
>> .PDF file. You added that one recently to show it here. It's just another
>> smokescreen.
>>
>>
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/25/00 7:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8qp2p6$8o$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>
>
>Allen,
> Isn't that "move" one that is taught in
>the 'Brentwood School of OWT'?
=========================
"Bentwood"
LTCMDR612
>Message-id: <20000925210946...@ng-me1.aol.com>
>
>I agree with Dr. Pitcavage. The Order Of White Trash website is racist.
>In reading through these messages I have sen something else. Dr. Pitcavahe
>has a website that links to racists websites. One of his links connects to
>Grey...@aol.com, Michael Masters. Mike is the Sons of Confederate
>Veterans
>5TH Brigade Commander in Virginia. Recently he took over the SCV Virginia
>Division website through appointment of Henry Kidd. http://www.vascv.org/
========= true =======
>The colors of red and black are appropriate for a Nazi website.
It is not a Nazi website just because Masters likes red and black.
Even Vampires like red and black and I've never heard of a Nazi Vampire -- but
it would be interesting to watch on REBTV.
============================================
> In a
>previous
>message someone wrote that these people that are racists in the SCV are
>climbing the SCV ladder. Apparently that is a fact. As racists climb that
>ladder the Sons of Confederate veterans is going downhill. It was also
>written that Allen Sullivant is a Lt Commander in the Tennessee Division.
>The
>point was made that sincere people in heritage organizations like the SCV and
>UDC will be ignored when they declare Heritage not hate
==== true =========
>and I can see why.
>
>
>Look at Masters' website Dr Pitcavage is linked to and see if you do not
>think
>it looks racist to you. Decide for yourselves. I don't know how long Dr.
>Pitcavage has been linked to that website butv obviously he knows what he is
>doing to have pegged Mike Masters so well and before he became the SCV
>Virginia
>5TH brigade commander. It isn't too far to go to become the SCV >Commander
in Chief from that point.
Still, you have to be *elected* to office. Michael Masters was elected to his
position as 5th Brigare Commander in the Sons of Confederate Virginia Division.
I don't know who voted for him but he was elected by voting -- I suppose. I
don't care for his website that Mark Pitcavage is Linked to but then Mark makes
a statement on his Links webpage there which is almost a quote of what Michael
Masters wrote and that statement is extremist. Still, that does not mean that
all in the SCV Virginia Division even knows about his personal website so don't
hold that voting against the good people who didn't know any better.
=================================
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/25/00 6:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8qovbt$r6k$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>
>
>Sam,
> Sounds like double-talk to me. We are going after abuse of the
>Confederate flag by a racist and yet we are now going to "peg" an "assumed"
>racist by nothing else other than colors in the background of a website? God
>forbid I wear a black shirt & red necktie to my next meeting/affair. I shall
>then assume I would be "pegged" a racist or a nazi? Shall I go ahead then &
>trade in my black w/red pin stripe vehicle for something of a lesser "nazi"
>effect? Let's not go to the radical extremes with all of this. Let's be
>real.
>The OWT IS racist.
>I see nothing on the VA Division, SCV website of any racist nature other
>than any underlying creations formed from one's own mind.
>Visit the OWT. That is the racist website and is owned/run/managed by
>
>Allen Sullivant.
========================
There are two websites under discussion that I have seen. Sullivant's is one of
them and the other is quoted below:--
Subject: Dr. Pitcavage's Watchdog links [Re: SCV-OWT members and Racism
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/25/00 10:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <39d23291...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>
>
>On 26 Sep 2000 01:09:46 GMT, samdav...@aol.com (Sam Davis 1861) wrote:
>
>>I agree with Dr. Pitcavage. The Order Of White Trash website is racist.
>
>Gee Maury, why don't you just take my camp name and number
>next time (Sam Davis 1293)? It would look much cooler!
Nah, mine is better and for real.
Sam Davis was for real in 1861 too.
I doubt that he was around in 1293 but it is always a poss-i-bility.
>a.s.
>Allen Sullivant
>Brentwood, Tennessee
>http://www.tennessee-scv.org
& http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com
.
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/25/00 7:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8qp1gb$8nj$1...@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>
>
>Allen,
> I don't know which is worse. The fact that you have lied for years about
>having ANYTHING to do with the website and are now finally coming clean to
>being the domain registration contact OR that you expect us to believe
>after the years of lying that we would believe you now when you say you
>"don't write the material".
>Why don't you just admit it. You DO know who is directly involved in the
>creation of the contents and for whatever reason you are protecting them
>(that is, if "they" are not actually "you").
I have never believed that Allen Sullivant writes all of the material for his
"Order of White Trash" website because I am convinced he has friends that are
more capable than he is and just as racist when it comes to that website. H.G.
would be one of those I would suspect but none of that matters when what is
required is for someone to put that website together because if not it could
not exist and there you have Allen Sullivant -- who I suspects does write, or
at least adds to some of the articles -- the lame ones.
====================================
> Why? Name them if they are not
>in fact you. Let us all know who they are. Otherwise chap, your "friends"
>from the OWT have left you out here alone, to fend for yourself, which,
>quiet honestly, you can not do.
>
><reb4...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message >
>You know, I'm not sure I get your point. And for the record, I don't write
>the material. I am the domain registration contact.
Sullivant, you are far more than just a domain registration contact and you
would not have admitted that had it not already been proven without you
admitting it.
`
>a.s.
>Allen Sullivant
>Brentwood, Tennessee
=>Lt Commander SCV Division of Tennessee
& http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com
(owner of the above website)
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/25/00 10:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <39d1326a...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>
>
>On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:24:05 -0400, "Mike Gallagher"
><Celtic...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Allen,
>> I don't know which is worse.
>
><snip>
>
>Hi Maury.
>
>a.s.
>Allen Sullivant
>Brentwood, Tennessee
>http://www.tennessee-scv.org
Bzzzt, wrong -- but keep on guessing.
>a.s.
>Allen Sullivant
>Brentwood, Tennessee
=>Lt Commander SCV Division of Tennessee
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/26/00 4:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <6qa2ts8u3q659qm99...@4ax.com>
I was too, Mark. But it is what it is and we can either turn away or try to do
something good about it. It's the same principle as your Watchdog Militia
website (and he took your watchdog logo image regardless that you state all
contents are copyrighted by you), all of us can wake up or just let them have
their way which I do think would, in time, lead to serious regrets.
Ed Frank
Ferguson Cletus wrote:
> http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/
>
> http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/mailbag.htm
I think they need more photos of nekkid women.
Ed "very few of the SCV/UDC types I know of look
like that pistol-packin' blonde cutie" Frank
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/27/00 8:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <39D21902...@memphis.edu>
I agree. It's the best thing on that website. I liked the one with the blonde
and the caption about saluting the flag but I also liked that group of girls on
the beach wearing CSA Flag Bikinis :)
Mike Gallagher
You haven't been looking in the same places I've been son.
I've seen plenty of them (even with my bad eyes).
Nothing beats a good looking and good hearted Southern woman.
I've seen the "UDC" types, but I've got to ask though, what "SCV types"
have you seen that looked even remotely like that?
Were they in Brentwood,TN?
"Ed Frank" <efr...@memphis.edu> wrote in message
Ed Frank
Mike Gallagher wrote:
> You haven't been looking in the same places I've been son.
I look when I'm invited to speak to them. And don't call me
son. Only one man had the standing to do that, and he's been
dead since 1963.
> I've seen plenty of them (even with my bad eyes).
You see with your eyes, and I'll see with mine.
> I've seen the "UDC" types, but I've got to ask though, what "SCV types"
> have you seen that looked even remotely like that?
The wives and daughters of SCV members. I understand
that there's a ladies' auxiliary, too, so that's who I was talking
about.
> Were they in Brentwood,TN?
Nope.
Ed "I've passed through Brentwood, but never stopped" Frank
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/27/00 7:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8qubvo$6np$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>
>
>Ed,
> You haven't been looking in the same places I've been son.
When it comes to looking, I don't care where the woman comes from or what color
she is (as long as she is from Earth) if she is good looking I am going to
look!
> I've seen the "UDC" types, but I've got to ask though, what "SCV types"
>have you seen that looked even remotely like that?
>Were they in Brentwood,TN?
>
>
>"Ed Frank" <efr...@memphis.edu> wrote in message
> Ed "very few of the SCV/UDC types I know of look
> like that pistol-packin' blonde cutie" Frank
Those things are all well and fine it is the other things on that website owned
and/or maintained by Allen Sullivant who declared that he just "uploads" the
materials. But there can be no website without that and linking materials
together.
Here are just two things Sullivant "uploaded" to that website:--
QUOTE:--------------------
Looky Here
A quarterly journal of erudite wit, piquant satire, and redneck humor,
of, by, and for the members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/whee.htm
END QUOTE:-----------------------
Mike Gallagher
It sounds as if I have offended you by calling you "son"? As old as I
am, everyone is "son". Should you live to be the age I am, you may find that
out. Furthermore, being retired military, there are certainly other "names"
I could refer to, but I will not. The use of the word "son" is just that. A
word. If a word bothers you that deeply, perhaps you should not be reading
nor writing posts on a message board. It's full of words.
I do see with my eyes. (They do not work as good as they used to, but
they still do the job for which they were intended.)
Glad you were willing to post openly that you are "eye-ing" fellow
Compatriots wives and daughters. At least we are now aware that they are
"snakes in the grass" amongst us. (Thank God I only had sons and my wife has
passed away.)
I imagine you are closer to Brentwood than you realize.
"Ed Frank" <efr...@memphis.edu> wrote in message
I look when I'm invited to speak to them. And don't call me
son. Only one man had the standing to do that, and he's been
dead since 1963.
You see with your eyes, and I'll see with mine.
The wives and daughters of SCV members. I understand
that there's a ladies' auxiliary, too, so that's who I was talking
about.
Ed "I've passed through Brentwood, but never stopped" Frank
Mike Gallagher
Were you in this conversation? I didn't think so. Before you correct me
and/or my speech and/or manners, you may want to read up on some yourself.
This is an AB conversation. C your way out of it.
"Hugh Lawson" <hla...@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
Well Mike, this is probably a habit you can break, if you wish to,
assuming that you have control of your speech. I expect retired military
who have not yet entered senescence have as much self-control as any other
well-brought-up person.
--
Hugh Lawson
Greensboro, North Carolina
hla...@triad.rr.com
William G. Davis
--
Regards,
William G. Jeff Davis
je...@heNOSPAMhe.com
"No man is an island entire of itself;
every man is a piece of the Continent,
a part of the main. . . . Any man’s death
diminishes me because I am involved in Mankind;
and therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."
--John Donne
"Mike Gallagher" <Celtic...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8r0v9k$1n2$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
Mike Gallagher
Correct, but (and there is always a but), this was a conversation directed
from one man to another. No other comments necessary nor required.
Public forums are nice like that, aren't they? That they can contain both
personally directed and publically directed comments. You just need to be
aware which are which.
"William G. Davis" <je...@heNOSPAMhe.com> wrote in message >
D it's a public forum!
Regards,
L.M. Berkowitz
:<Celtic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: It sounds as if I have offended you by calling you "son"? As old as I
:am, everyone is "son".
:
You forgot "hon". You must be REALLY old.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
L.M. Berkowitz webm...@jewish-history.com
http://www.jewish-history.com/civilwar.htm "Jews in the Civil War"
William G. Davis
> William,
> Correct, but (and there is always a but), this was a conversation directed
> from one man to another. No other comments necessary nor required.
> Public forums are nice like that, aren't they? That they can contain both
> personally directed and publically directed comments. You just need to be
> aware which are which.
In a public forum? If you want two way communication take it to email.
Posting on usenet invites comment, it certainly doesn't preclude it.
--
Regards,
William G. Jeff Davis
je...@heNOSPAMhe.com
"You can be up to your boobies in white satin,
with gardenias in your hair and no sugar cane for miles,
but you can still be working on a plantation."
--Billie Holiday
Lady Sings the Blues
Stephen McCullough
>
> William,
> Correct, but (and there is always a but), this was a conversation directed
> from one man to another. No other comments necessary nor required.
> Public forums are nice like that, aren't they? That they can contain both
> personally directed and publically directed comments. You just need to be
> aware which are which.
>
Jeff was right. this is public forum and you were out of line. you don't
like people commenting on your posts, send them via email.
Hugh Lawson
<Celtic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Mr.Ed,
> It sounds as if I have offended you by calling you "son"? As old as I
>am, everyone is "son".
Well Mike, this is probably a habit you can break, if you wish to,
L.M. Berkowitz
<Celtic...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.war.civil.usa:
:William,
:Correct, but (and there is always a but), this was a conversation directed
:from one man to another.
Then it belongs in private email, not in a public forum.
Hugh Lawson
<Celtic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hugh,
>Were you in this conversation? I didn't think so. Before you correct me
>and/or my speech and/or manners, you may want to read up on some yourself.
>This is an AB conversation. C your way out of it.
Hello Mike:
Long-distance telephone lines and email are available for those who wish
to carry on private conversations without comment by others. Newsgroup
posts are called "articles", and my principle is that I may freely comment
on an article that attracts my interest. Yours did.
I shall continue this practice.
Best wishes,
Ed Frank
> Mr.Ed,
You can call me Ed, Mike.
> It sounds as if I have offended you by calling you "son"? As old as I
> am, everyone is "son".
Mildly offended, Mike. It's a personal thing to me. Having known
my father for only nine years (and having a son myself) the word
is a powerful one to me.
> Should you live to be the age I am, you may find that
> out. Furthermore, being retired military, there are certainly other "names"
> I could refer to, but I will not.
Mike, you're free to use any words you want. But what reason
have I given you to use any patronizing term whatever?
> The use of the word "son" is just that. A
> word. If a word bothers you that deeply, perhaps you should not be reading
> nor writing posts on a message board. It's full of words.
{A light goes on . . . ;-) )
> I do see with my eyes. (They do not work as good as they used to, but
> they still do the job for which they were intended.)
> Glad you were willing to post openly that you are "eye-ing" fellow
> Compatriots wives and daughters.
No, Mike, they are not my fellow Compatriots' wives and daughters.
When I address SCV camps, it is as a (non-member) invited speaker.
(I'm more than qualified to join, but have chosen not to.)
> At least we are now aware that they are "snakes in the grass" amongst us.
Yeah, I'll bet no SCVer ever thought about another's wife
or daughter until I barged in . Perhaps you should warn the
Memphis-area camps of the threat, before I ogle again.
> (Thank God I only had sons
I feel the same way.
> and my wife has passed away.)
Thank God she has passed away?
> I imagine you are closer to Brentwood than you realize.
I have no idea what this means.
Ed "any guesses, Allen?" Frank
PS: Apologies to all for the public OT.
Ed Frank
"William G. Davis" wrote:
> "Mike Gallagher" <Celtic...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8r11l1$p2h$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
> > William,
> > Correct, but (and there is always a but), this was a conversation directed
> > from one man to another. No other comments necessary nor required.
> > Public forums are nice like that, aren't they? That they can contain both
> > personally directed and publically directed comments. You just need to be
> > aware which are which.
>
> In a public forum? If you want two way communication take it to email.
Please, no! I've said my piece and have no desire to discuss this
privately.
> Posting on usenet invites comment, it certainly doesn't preclude it.
Very true.
Ed "thanks to all who have posted in my defense" Frank
Bill Wright
>
> Mike, you're free to use any words you want. But what reason
> have I given you to use any patronizing term whatever?
If I may enter into this clearly public discussion, I would like
to say that I'm glad to see that someone brought up the word
"patronizing". It has been my observation that a lot of "old
geezers", particularly of the ex-military kind, become patronizing
without realizing it. It comes through as insulting from strangers.
Bill
reb4...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>Mike Gallagher writes:
<snips>
>> I imagine you are closer to Brentwood than you realize.
>I have no idea what this means.
>Ed "any guesses, Allen?" Frank
I ain't touchin' that one.....
a. s.
LTCMDR612
>Date: 9/29/00 10:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <39d4cd14...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>
>
>On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:46:27 -0500, Ed Frank <efr...@memphis.edu>
>wrote:
>
>>Mike Gallagher writes:
>
><snips>
>
>> I imagine you are closer to Brentwood than you realize.
>
>
>I ain't touchin' that one.....
>
>a. s.
I see where you tried to get me kicked out of the SCV for exposing you and your
website, Sullivant. You wrote to the wrong people because all
of those who you wrote to are my friends and your message was forwarded to me.
I have now replied to your statements in your little back-stabbing attempt
so now let us see if my reply gets forwarded to you.
BTW, as I wrote im my reply, I don't care if I remain in the SCV or not because
I qualify for the Sons of Union Veterans which I may or may not decide to join
since I really don't need them. If I cared as much about staying in the SCV as
much as you seem to think you should know by my postings about it that I am not
concerned in the least and you can pass this message onward too since I really
don't care. The SCV that I am seeing is filled with racism including the
websites some members lie you create. Because it has so many racists in it, and
especially those that hide on your "SCV Echo Listserver", I care very little
for that part of the SCV. People like you ruin the SCV for those who in all
sincerity declare, "Heritage Not Hate".
Allen Sullivant stated with:--
>Gentlemen,
>
>Copied below you will find a message posted today to an
>internet newsgroup by our Compatriot
>a.s. >Allen Sullivant >Brentwood, Tennessee
Lt Cmdr SCV Div.Tenn.
http://www.orderofwhitetrash.com/home/whee.htm NAACP Logo urinated on.