2000 NEW BEETLE HESITATION PROBLEM
David Fader
following problem:
I have a 2000 New Beetle with a manual transmission and it has an
intermittent hesitation problem off the line. It is worse with the a/c on.
Sometimes it is so bad it looks like I don't know how to drive a stick, it
falls on its face and then will take off. It is almost like it is starving
for gas and then finally gets some.
I have been told by the dealership I bought it from that it is "normal" and
they all do it. I drove a brand new one and it does the same thing. The
service manager told me the automatics do it to.
I feel this is a very dangerous situation because it has happened while I
have been making a left turn in front of on-coming traffic.
Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what was done about it,
if anything. Please help before I get hit by on-coming traffic!!
Thanks!
Dave
Steve M
You might try revving the engine higher before you take off. The 1.8t for
example doesn't get peak torque until 2200RPM, I find that the hesitation
goes away if I rev up to around that before letting off the clutch, but that
it sometimes lags if I don't.
Remember these are SMALL engines, they need to get going before they have
all the power you want. The TDI will be better at lower RPM's though.
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Gary Douglas
intermittent hesitation problem off the line. It is worse with the a/c
on.>>>
Yup, my '99 GL 2.0 has that, too. I think it's mostly that the 2.0 liter
doesn't have much low rpm torque, and isn't real quick to rev up. My
solution is to rev it up a little higher than "normal" when starting off.
Gary in VT
David Fader
reving the engine before I take off is burning the clutch. I don't lug the
engine when I take off, but don't bring the rpm's over 1500 to start off
with unless I am trying to move quickly. Even when I do it sometimes
hesitates. Plus, if I am almost at a stop, I put it into first where the
speed of the car and the rpm's are the same, the clutch is out and I give it
gas it will hesitate. Does this make sense?
Steve M <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> 2.0? TDI? 1.8t?
>
> You might try revving the engine higher before you take off. The 1.8t for
> example doesn't get peak torque until 2200RPM, I find that the hesitation
> goes away if I rev up to around that before letting off the clutch, but
that
> it sometimes lags if I don't.
>
> Remember these are SMALL engines, they need to get going before they have
> all the power you want. The TDI will be better at lower RPM's though.
>
> "David Fader" <dlf...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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David Fader
hesitate at all regardless of where the rpm's are at when you start from a
start, unless you are lugging the engine. I was told my the service manager
that they know the automatics do it and got the feeling that we as consumers
are just supposed to live with it. I have a problem with that.
Have you taken yours in for this problem and if so what were you told?
Thanks!
Gary Douglas <GDou...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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> <<<I have a 2000 New Beetle with a manual transmission and it has an
> intermittent hesitation problem off the line. It is worse with the a/c
> on.>>>
>
Steve M
> Thanks for your response. I guess my main concern is that the car
shouldn't
> hesitate at all regardless of where the rpm's are at when you start from a
> start, unless you are lugging the engine. I was told my the service
manager
> that they know the automatics do it and got the feeling that we as
consumers
> are just supposed to live with it. I have a problem with that.
Hm. I also have a '98 NB with a 2.0l and auto in addition to my '00 1.8t,
and I think the hesitation the dealer is talking about is unrelated to what
you're experiencing. The auto transmission hesitates at predictable times --
if you're in reverse and shift to drive before coming to a COMPLETE stop,
and then accelerate, there is usually a hesitation and then the transmission
thunks into gear. If you DO come to a complete stop, this doesn't happen.
Also, the transmission is driver adaptive -- it continually adjusts shift
points according to your driving habits. It will pick up your bad habits,
some times resulting in late downshifts. This can be corrected by changing
your driving habits or by having the dealer reset the transmission (to do
this there's some arcane combination of holding the gas pedal down, turning
the ignition while facing Mecca or something along those lines).
Anyway I would take your car to another VW dealer if there's one in your
area, and have them take a look at it.
Darren Greenwald
> I was wondering if anyone else who has a New Beetle has experienced the
> following problem:
>
My 98 with auto and 2.0 liter does not exhibit any hesitation.
It seems very responsive at all speeds. It could use a bit
more power (I may trade it in for a 1.8 turbo with manual)
but I don't experience the problem you are describing.
Brian Lee
couldn't do anything about it. But fortunately it only happened during the
first 2-3 months and it went away.
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Wade
usually mine dies. It'll start back up easy though. It's done that several
times and I also agree it's very dangerous when it does it in traffic.
I posted about this on another Beetle site and got reprimanded severely for
saying anything negative about the TDI.
I have the 5 speed. No matter how careful I am about making sure the rpm is
high enough before letting out on the clutch, etc. it periodically still
does it. You had a good description: it's as though I don't know how to
drive a manual tranny vehicle. I'm 58yrs of age and have driven many
manuals.
I've had that "dying" problem and also the front passenger side turn
indicator bulb burned out, with only 3500 miles on it, and it took the
dealer 1 1/2hrs to fix that and to check on a bad wind noise on the driver's
door. He took it for a test drive, without asking me if I wanted to
go.....and was gone before I could.......test drove it for over 1/2 hr. and
came back and said the door seal was bad.
Of course the door seal had to be ordered. ETA is "in a few days". Btw,
the auto body repair shop is STILL waiting on the front spoiler and
associated parts from VW. I hit an armadillo nearly two months ago and it
bursted the front spoiler, one fog light bracket and somemore peripherel
parts. 2000 front spoiler will NOT fit a 2001 Beetle.
I had to have a Beetle.....I've got one but I won't have one long. I got it
in July and will drive probably until next July, 2001 and dump it and get me
a real, grownup.....full-size vehicle such as a Chevy 3/4 ton regular cab,
long bed, 6.6L diesel or the 8.1L gas, Allison 5speed tranny.....gg to get a
bright red one and in 4Xdrive.....nope I won't ever use the 4wheel drive
probably but I want one.
My assessment of the Beetle: You don't even wanta hear it!!!!! It reminds
me of the saying: "It's a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live
there." Same type stuff: "The new beetle is cute but I don't want to own
one."
Everyone take care.
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Phil Teves
What you are dealing with is the "drive by wire" feature of your new
car. You are being too timid when you are starting off and that's why
you are stalling the car. All current German cars have this technology
so you will do this we almost any new car. You need to adjust your
driving style to this car. Good luck.
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David Fader
and not the 2.0L Unless they changed this on the 2000 and on models, it
wasn't on the 98 or 99.
Thanks for your response.
Dave
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Phil Teves
All Volkswagens from the 2000 model year and newer are DBW. All NB TDIs
are DBW regardless of year. It's very easy to verify if your car is DBW,
take a look under the hood and look for the cable!
Take care.
Steve Ringley
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David Fader
I looked under the hood of my car today and I find a cable coming from the
firewall to under the cover surrounding the top of the engine. If this is
not a throttle cable, what else could it be? The direction of the cable
makes me think it is for the throttle.
Any comments?
Dave
Phil Teves <Phil...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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my prime suspect so far has been this automatic timing adjustment which most German engines (AUDI, BMW...) are equiped with, and it sits close to the cam shaft, it is electric and it advances the timing whenever the engine needs it, my thinking is that the timing adjusts whenever the engine adjusts the idle due to AC demands.
Mine is worst when I am sitting idle at red light with AC on. its like a violant choke or going to cut off, then it gets worse when you want to take off.
folks here are talking abt a completly different issue with stick shift.
