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Carsten Troelsgaard

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Nov 14, 2006, 11:41:27 AM11/14/06
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Hello ... anybody home? This newsgroup looks desolated.
Nonetheless, it's the most proper place for my question. You guessed it, ..
I'm videoing outdoors and wants to enhance the sound quality (tired of
disturbing the indbuild microphone by operation-noise and the necessity
later to amplify both signal and background-noise). I figure that a
preamplified microphone is the best solution. I'm not just a newbie on low
budget .. after gazing at the problem for a while, I feel stupified. Next to
the microphone, I need a (transportable) pre-amp, and this latter stays a
mystery. It appears that I need something called a 'phantom power' source
too .. a transportable power-source fueled by batteries? ..
Previously I've been looking at directional microphones and discarded the
idea becourse of the cost. I'm in some awe of the inbuild microphone as it
obviously is much higher quality than the cheep pc-microphones I can compare
it to, but so far, dealers has introduced me to what looks like the usual
cheep headset pc-microphone - I don't know what to ask or look for as for a
good quality pc-type microphone (directly plugable onto the video). I
mention this as a rational option since it seems stupid to spend $300 on
pre-amp and phantom-power, and supply with a $50 michrophone to stay on
budget.
Any comment welcome

Carsten


C.J.

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Jan 9, 2007, 2:50:13 AM1/9/07
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What kind of audio input does your camera have??


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Stuart

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Apr 16, 2007, 7:55:34 AM4/16/07
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Sennheiser have a range of reasonable priced electret directional
microphones thru to full on professional shot-gun mics like the 816 that
require external power. One of the electret range that have a battery built
in would probably do the trick and make sure you get a good wind gag.
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/products_microphones_installed-sound_05065


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In article <WuJUh.14177$M.3...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, Stuart
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>"Carsten Troelsgaard" <carsten.t...@mail.dk> wrote in message
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>> Hello ... anybody home? This newsgroup looks desolated.
>> Nonetheless, it's the most proper place for my question. You guessed it,
>> .. I'm videoing outdoors and wants to enhance the sound quality (tired of
>> disturbing the indbuild microphone by operation-noise and the necessity
>> later to amplify both signal and background-noise). I figure that a
>> preamplified microphone is the best solution. I'm not just a newbie on low
>> budget .. after gazing at the problem for a while, I feel stupified. Next
>> to the microphone, I need a (transportable) pre-amp, and this latter stays
>> a mystery. It appears that I need something called a 'phantom power'
>> source too .. a transportable power-source fueled by batteries? ..
>> Previously I've been looking at directional microphones and discarded the
>> idea becourse of the cost. I'm in some awe of the inbuild microphone as it
>> obviously is much higher quality than the cheep pc-microphones I can
>> compare it to, but so far, dealers has introduced me to what looks like
>> the usual cheep headset pc-microphone - I don't know what to ask or look
>> for as for a good quality pc-type microphone (directly plugable onto the
>> video). I mention this as a rational option since it seems stupid to spend
>> $300 on pre-amp and phantom-power, and supply with a $50 michrophone to
>> stay on budget.
>> Any comment welcome

You can do this cheaply the "old fashioned" way, by using a separate
audio recorder, but it means taking a lot of care.

You use a clapperboard, just like in the movies, or a hand clap (seen in
shot and on the sound recording), and you sync the sound with the
pictures when you edit. You could record to minidisk or even one of the
better iPod type devices. They need adjustable level control (NOT
automatic level), and you will need a decent mic (but you can get by
without a gun mic if you're careful).

You haven't said what sort of video you are making. If it's OK to have a
mic on the person speaking, any good personal mic will do, and that
person can also wear the recorder or have it in a pocket. It's much
easier if you have a separate person looking after the sound.

When you do it this way, the sound recorded by the camera is just a
guide, and you can use it later to check your other track stays in sync.

To do this, you need to be able to lay down audio tracks separately in
your video edit software and lock them to the pictures. You'll find you
need to make careful notes of what you record, so that sound tracks
don't get mixed up (that's the other purpose of a clapperboard!), but
film and later TV companies were doing it that way for 50 years. It
works very well.

Hope this helps. With a 'domestic' or 'home' video recorder, you usually
can't expect good sound - to get it you have to record the sound
separately, in the way I described above.

I suggest finding some books on amateur FILM making (not video!), which
may give you some good ideas.

Regards,

Simonm.

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