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Pioneer CLD 97 - To Fix or not to Fix...

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Rob Zelinka

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Nov 6, 2001, 8:18:32 PM11/6/01
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I have a Pioneer Elite CLD 97 that I am very fond of. I took it in for
repair and after a lengthy time, the repair shop suggests that it can be
fixed however the monies could be better spent on a newer model.

The repair person said that the unit was manufactured in 1994 and he's
trying to set me up with a new combo DVD/ LD player, the DVL 91, of which I
already own for my second theater.

In any event, I told him that it was my opinion that the DVL 91 was not in
the same league as the CLD 97. He claims the DVL 91 has a much better
transport and overall is a better product given the advances in technology.
he kept going back to the fact that the unit is 8 years old and used the
words "do you really want to resurrect the unit".

Bottom line is I babied this thing and even went out and paid extra to mod
it so it would do Dolby Digital. Everywhere I have looked, researched leads
me to believe that the CLD 97 is indeed a much better player.

The repair is for a new spindle and transport and will cost $ 500. Is it
worth it ?

Any opinions on whether or not I should repair it or if I am on the money to
suggest that the CLD 97 is a much better player then the DVL 91.

Thanks in advance


Dave Garrett

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Nov 6, 2001, 9:55:49 PM11/6/01
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In article <IZ%F7.3425$Rw2.2...@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>,
rzel...@ameritech.net says...

> The repair person said that the unit was manufactured in 1994 and he's
> trying to set me up with a new combo DVD/ LD player, the DVL 91, of which I
> already own for my second theater.
>
> In any event, I told him that it was my opinion that the DVL 91 was not in
> the same league as the CLD 97. He claims the DVL 91 has a much better
> transport and overall is a better product given the advances in technology.
> he kept going back to the fact that the unit is 8 years old and used the
> words "do you really want to resurrect the unit".
>
> Bottom line is I babied this thing and even went out and paid extra to mod
> it so it would do Dolby Digital. Everywhere I have looked, researched leads
> me to believe that the CLD 97 is indeed a much better player.
>
> The repair is for a new spindle and transport and will cost $ 500. Is it
> worth it ?

It's worth it. The 97 is a better LD player than the DVL-91. I
have yet to see the combo player that can even equal, let alone
better, the performance of the best standalone Elite LD players.

$500 is pricey but reasonable for a new spindle and transport;
although I haven't priced them lately, I'd bet that you won't
find another 97 for much less than $700-800, and then you're
taking a chance on it if its history is unknown. If it was my 97,
and I'd taken good care of it, I'd pay the $500 and not look
back. Be glad that you can still get replacement parts for it and
find someone to work on it - such resources will continue to get
scarcer as time passes.

Dave

Joshua Zyber

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Nov 6, 2001, 10:29:39 PM11/6/01
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Rob Zelinka <rzel...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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Fix the 97 and stay away from the combi players.

- Josh


gbt...@attglobal.net

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Nov 6, 2001, 10:56:03 PM11/6/01
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The transport is the $$$ item. I'd fiod another shop and get a second
opinion. Sounds to me like they just priced you the cost of all the
mechanical parts either to get you to buy a DVL-91 or because they
really don't know what is wrong, so just decided replace it all.

Greg

Kurtis Bahr

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Nov 7, 2001, 12:12:44 AM11/7/01
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I've had many players and worked on many players. Everyone is correct. This
was the last Special Elite Design Pioneer made for LD players, after this they
rebadged the top of the line Non-Elite units and added a few features.

I would get another estimate. I find it hard to believe the spindle motor and
pickup both went out. I believe that shop wants to swap it all out and not have
to really debug it.

What was the problem?

Kurtis

Kevin Hawerchuk

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Nov 7, 2001, 3:35:07 AM11/7/01
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gbt...@attglobal.net wrote in message news:<3BE8B0D3...@attglobal.net>...

A regular on this newsgroup, Kurtis Bahr, at kb...@erols.com is a pro
at fixing these players! I've shipped a few to him and he's very
proficient at repairing and tweaking players. If I were you I'd email
him and maybe he can do the same job for a better price. He stands by
his work and has repaired players for many others in this ng.
Kevin.

Matthew L. Martin

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Nov 7, 2001, 8:07:58 AM11/7/01
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"Rob Zelinka" <rzel...@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:<IZ%F7.3425$Rw2.2...@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>...

Assuming that the diagnosis and treatment are correct, ask yourself
this question: Would I buy this unit, repaired, for the cost of the
repair?

In other words, if you were in the market for a working, well cared
for, repaired CLD-97 with AC-3 out, would you pay $500 for one?

I would.

Matthew

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Todd Spangler

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Nov 7, 2001, 10:03:34 AM11/7/01
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This place does not deserve your business because of their
ignorance/chicanery. I would box the unit up and send it off to
Kurtis, who owns a CLD-97 and is an expert at working on LD players.
A new DVD/LD combo model will simply not perform as well playing LDs
as will the better non-DVD designs Pioneer manufactured.

Todd

gbt...@attglobal.net

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Nov 8, 2001, 6:02:49 AM11/8/01
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I agree. I own a CLD-95, 97 and 99. The 97 is the best of the three.

Greg

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