Info on Pioneer 2090 vs. 3090

[Mark Glinsky]

Hello - can anyone give me a comparative rundown of the features
for the Pioneer CLD-2090 and CLD-3090 laser players?

Many thanks!

Mark - Orlando, FL
mgl...@magicnet.net

[Jim Davidson]

In article <4jdj8g$f...@comet2.magicnet.net> mgl...@magicnet.net (Mark Glinsky) writes:

> Hello - can anyone give me a comparative rundown of the features
> for the Pioneer CLD-2090 and CLD-3090 laser players?

Uh, no.

They're both so old that you shouldn't really care about either one.
They're both about 5 years old.

But since you asked, the 3090 was the top of the ordinary line, with
2-sided play and digital memory. I assume that the 2090 dropped one of
the above features (probably the digital memory).

-Jim

[dennis mania]

> Don't buy a 3090! Very trouble prone.
>
> -dm

[Don Cline]

I
"> Hello - can anyone give me a comparative rundown of the features
"> for the Pioneer CLD-2090 and CLD-3090 laser players?
"
"Uh, no.
"
"They're both so old that you shouldn't really care about either one.
"They're both about 5 years old.
"
"But since you asked, the 3090 was the top of the ordinary line, with
"2-sided play and digital memory. I assume that the 2090 dropped one of
"the above features (probably the digital memory).
"
"-Jim

I have a CLD-3090 and it works great. I just did an AC-3 mod to it for about
$3.00 in parts. If you have one and dislike it that much, sell it to me!

Don Cline

[dennis mania]

3090 is the worst piece of crap Pioneer ever produced. Don, consider
yourself lucky. Pioneer replaced mine a few years ago with a 702. If
you're thinking about buying a 3090 ...don't.

[JDWiseman]

Pioneer aolso replaced my 3090 with a 702.

JD

[Jim Davidson]

In article <4kmabu$1...@nadine.teleport.com> d...@watkins-cline.com (Don Cline) writes:

> "> Hello - can anyone give me a comparative rundown of the features
> "> for the Pioneer CLD-2090 and CLD-3090 laser players?
> "
> "Uh, no.
> "
> "They're both so old that you shouldn't really care about either one.
> "They're both about 5 years old.
>

> I have a CLD-3090 and it works great. I just did an AC-3 mod to it for
> about $3.00 in parts. If you have one and dislike it that much, sell it to
> me!

I'm holding onto mine, as a backup player, and for those cases where I
need a second player for any reason.

As I indicated in my earlier message, I would discourage *anyone* from buying
a 3090 now. Besides the age factor (5 years is a long time in the LD
business), there were just too many stories of unreliability with it.

-Jim

[Ed Uthman]

In article <316F55...@pe.net>, dennis mania <dma...@pe.net> wrote:

> 3090 is the worst piece of crap Pioneer ever produced.

Likewise the 3080. Mine spent most of last year in the shop, only to break
down again a few months later. Now it's in the closet, and I replaced it
with an entry-level Pioneer that works great.

Ed

_____________________________________________________
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(uth...@domi.net) "Nemo liber est qui
Pathologist corpore servit."
Houston/Richmond, Texas, USA -Seneca

[David Haakenson]

> In article <316F55...@pe.net>, dennis mania <dma...@pe.net> wrote:
>
> > 3090 is the worst piece of crap Pioneer ever produced.
>

In article <uthman-1404...@hst1-4.computize.com>, uth...@domi.net

(Ed Uthman) wrote:
> Likewise the 3080. Mine spent most of last year in the shop, only to break
> down again a few months later. Now it's in the closet, and I replaced it
> with an entry-level Pioneer that works great.
>

______

I had the 2090. The first four failed right out of the box, each with
different defects (one even blew out the left channel audio and all the
functions on the remote switch position: hit the play button and the
drawer would open; hit the stop button and the unit would start playing,
etc.)

After taking each back to Silo for exchange, I decided to start calling
Pioneer. They exchanged the 2090 for a 3090, which also failed in the
first week. Then they sent me a D701, which also failed (even had a CD
stick to the spindle; imagine my surprise when I ejected the drawer and
found no disc on it, then heard it fall down into the circuit board
inside!). Soon after that, they shipped me a D702 and extended my original
warranty by a couple years.

All this was nice of them, since all I had done was purchased the original
2090; all the exchanges were at no charge to me. But I logged lots of
miles on the car, lots of time on the phone and fax, lots of time without
a laserdisc machine. Certainly tainted my initial laser experience!

And unfortunately, the D702 also suffered a defect during the first two
weeks, but this time, Pioneer said it would have to be repaired. And
unfortunately, the defect was NEVER repaired (jams when changing sides
about 1/2 of the time; only way to get out of the jam is to unplug the
machine. Nothing else works.)

Suffice to say, Pioneer has had its share of laserdisc quality control troubles.

david

[Dave Campbell]

How about the 2090? I have one and it seems to work okay?

[Dennis]

Dave Campbell wrote:
>
> How about the 2090? I have one and it seems to work okay? I had two 2090's had a problem with both units

[Don Lindbergh]

In <317D32...@inxpress.net>, Dennis <li...@inxpress.net> writes:
>Dave Campbell wrote:
>>
>> How about the 2090? I have one and it seems to work okay? I had two 2090's had a problem with both units

Please post details.

thanks

--Don

Don A.B. Lindbergh II | Why can't you make a living
| like the rest of the boys
da...@nlm.nih.gov | Instead of filling your head
not a spokesperson for nlm | with all that synthesized noise? - Todd R.

[Dennis F]

I went through 3 2090 disc players before i got one that worked the 3090
does have digital effects the 2090 dont these are old machines that had
problems look for 501 502 503 504 or 7 series better machines and new
units have ac3 output