One more time: DVL-909 vs. 91 vs. 919
sac2...@my-deja.com
previous postings of "cost vs. features" and trying to measure the true
difference between the units. It appears to be like this (presented in
reverse chronology):
DVL-919 (approx $800)
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Techno stuff (same as DVL-91, but including:)
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* 24 bit audio dacs
* 3 line digital comb filter
* "less than steller" remote control
DVL-91 (approx $1300)
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Fancy Stuff
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* Rosewood panels
* Gold plated connectors
* copper chassis
* excellent remote
Techno Stuff (same as DVL-909, but including:)
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* DTS
* Adjustable Y/C for LD.
* Better transport
DVL-909 (approx $580 (spidergear refurbished))
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* Component video output
* Viter-Bi RF Decoding process
* 10 bit video dac
* 20 bit audio dac
* AC-3 out
* S-video out
* Composite video out.
* etc..
Hack Capability
===============
DVL-919 : No hacks listed.
DVL-91 : Code free, Macrovision free (if chip version xxx)
DVL-909 : Code free, Macrovision free AND "DVL-91 upgrade"
Summarization attempt
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So is it truly worth it to buy a refurbished DVL-909, pray that the
unit comes with the old firmware chip (1.210/8) so I could possibly
replace two resistors without fragging the board so I can have a DVL-91?
I'd still have to order the better remote from Pioneer, and possible the
old firmware chip (I think I saw it quoted at $50) if I didn't receive a
909 with the desired firmware. Then I'd still have to solder the piece
of wire to ground a circuit to deactivate Macrovision, then solder a
couple end points together to defeat the region lockout mechanism and
make it "selectable".
All of a sudden that $579 price doesn't seem as killer.
Then again, if I just get the next "budget" player, the DVL-919, I'm
still stuck with a less than lovely remote, still have macrovision and
region problems, and have no current fix for either! Ugh...
Lastly there's the DVL-91, which comes with MORE than everything and
has (gasp!) the price to back it up. :-( The good news? I get the
remote I want, and have a player I can still modify. But do I really
want to be ripping the cover off of a brand new DVL-91, voiding the
warranty on a pretty EXPENSIVE player?
Nah... I guess the DVL-909 is still the best way to go for cost, though
I'm sure Pioneer isn't "giving away" those DVL-91 remotes... I bet they
cost a pretty penny. At least the modifications on a refurbished player
wouldn't be so devastating. It'd be so much easier if they'd just
make the player we all want FOR CHEAP!! ;-)
Anything else I should consider in this decision-making process?
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them (refurbished) for that price!
>Subject: One more time: DVL-909 vs. 91 vs. 919
>From: sac2...@my-deja.com
>Date: Tue, 13 July 1999 01:55 AM EDT
>Message-id: <7mekbm$9qe$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
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gary...@aol.comNOSPAM (Gary Hewlett) wrote:
> The 909 is the way to go. The remote (91) is about $50. So what? I got
two of
> them (refurbished) for that price!
>
>
Thanks for the input, Gary. You could probably tell by my original post
that by the time I was done, I was more or less talking myself into the
909. I mean, I really don't *need* those rosewood panels; and if I
require the shielding I guess I could steal a manhole cover and set it
between my TV and the player... ;-)
Adam Richardson
gary...@aol.comNOSPAM (Gary Hewlett) wrote:
> The 909 is the way to go. The remote (91) is about $50. So what? I got two of
> them (refurbished) for that price!
Gary,
Mind sharing where you found some refurb Pioneer remotes?
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Gary Hewlett
refurbished DVL-909's not refurbed remotes. sorry I had to buy new remotes.
>Subject: Re: One more time: DVL-909 vs. 91 vs. 919
>From: aric...@airmail.net (Adam Richardson)
>Date: Tue, 13 July 1999 12:26 PM EDT
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Randy Shackelford
: The key sentence is "pray the unit comes with the old firmware chip". If DTS is
: important to you and you're hoping to get a particular firmware by chance, you
: may be in trouble. If you can get the seller to verify the firmware of the
: machine you'll get first, then go for it.
Speaking of which, someone told me how to check the firmware on a 909 but I
forget how. How doya? DTS is no biggie but nice to know. I want to look into
the macrovision and region code killing mods once the warranty is out.
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region-free either for an extra fee or included in the purchase price.
Perhaps whether or not these machines can be hacked depends on what country
it is purchased in?
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sac2...@my-deja.com wrote in article <7mekbm$9qe$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> I've been researching this issue for about a month, reading all the
> previous postings of "cost vs. features" and trying to measure the true
> difference between the units. It appears to be like this (presented in
> reverse chronology):
>
[snip]
Terry James Warrick
jog/shuttle on the remote) for $800 and it's region-free for DVD and plays
PAL lasers as well. It's also Macrovision disabled.
If you're interested in where I got it, e-mail me privately.
Terry
sac2...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7mekbm$9qe$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>I've been researching this issue for about a month, reading all the
>previous postings of "cost vs. features" and trying to measure the true
>difference between the units. It appears to be like this (presented in
>reverse chronology):
>
>Hack Capability
>===============
> DVL-919 : No hacks listed.
>