Twister/Cameron Rip-Off (was Twister/Supposed Rip-off of James Cameron)
David Fung
There was a thread going earlier that mentioned
relationships/tie-in/ripoffs of Twister and James Cameron films as well as
Howard Hawks...
I noticed an interesting thing in the table of contents of the recent US
mag with Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton on the cover... There's a still of
the oil tanker truck flying across the road from the flick. On the door
of the truck, you can clearly see the legend "Benthic Petroleum." That's
the name of the oil company that owned the undersea oil platform in the
Abyss...
It was not visible at all to me when I saw the movie in the theater (prior
to the magazine coming out).
An interesting tidbit, especially since I wasn't aware of tie-ins between
Jan deBont and James Cameron...
David Fung
KiraProd
Actually, there are no tie-ins between Jan De Bont and James Cameron per
se. The explanation for the BENTHIC PETROLEUM tanker truck is simple:
there were a number of folks who worked on TWISTER that also had worked on
THE ABYSS, most notably Production Designer Joseph Nemec III. He was an
art director on THE ABYSS, where the name Benthic Petroleum originated (he
also played the helmsman of the doomed USS Montana in that film: "Passing
fifteen-fifty, sir!"). He subsequently was production designer for
TERMINATOR 2, and you'll notice the Benthic logo on the pumps at the gas
station where John, Sarah and Terminator spend the night. Joe thought it
would be kind of funny to bring that little reference into TWISTER as
well. Hope that clears things up...
Van Ling
Banned from the Ranch
RGPerry
Banned??? Is that the ranch I think it is? Or just something else?
Any Titanic news?
ross
rgp...@aol.com
Jonathan Gleich
KiraProd wrote:
> Van Ling
> Banned from the Ranch
Which Ranch? SKywalker? why?
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David Fung
In article <4oh9vg$n...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, kira...@aol.com (KiraProd)
wrote:
> Actually, there are no tie-ins between Jan De Bont and James Cameron per
> se. The explanation for the BENTHIC PETROLEUM tanker truck is simple:
> there were a number of folks who worked on TWISTER that also had worked on
> THE ABYSS, most notably Production Designer Joseph Nemec III. He was an
> art director on THE ABYSS, where the name Benthic Petroleum originated (he
> also played the helmsman of the doomed USS Montana in that film: "Passing
> fifteen-fifty, sir!"). He subsequently was production designer for
> TERMINATOR 2, and you'll notice the Benthic logo on the pumps at the gas
> station where John, Sarah and Terminator spend the night. Joe thought it
> would be kind of funny to bring that little reference into TWISTER as
> well. Hope that clears things up...
>
> Van Ling
> Banned from the Ranch
Cool. I realized that the ILM connection was probably after I sent the
message. And I had forgotten about that appearance of the Benthic logo in
T2 as I haven't watched it for a while.
I know the gas station scene is one of the added scenes in the extended
laserdisc of T2. Did Benthic appear in the original theatrical release?
It's interesting if it didn't as I don't think the Benthic logo was
particularily visible during the scene in Twister (although I might have
been distracted at the time!).
David Fung
Steven Clark
camerons overated.hes no lucas or spielberg.just a flash in the pan.
R Larsson
VTW...@prodigy.com (Steven Clark) wrote:
>camerons overated.hes no lucas or spielberg.just a flash in the pan.
Again? Really don't like Cameron, ha?
RL
Abe J. Flores
In article <4oon2s$f...@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> VTW...@prodigy.com (Steven Clark) writes:
>From: VTW...@prodigy.com (Steven Clark)
>Subject: Re: Twister/Cameron Rip-Off (was Twister/Supposed Rip-off of James Cameron)
>Date: 1 Jun 1996 06:13:48 GMT
>camerons overated.hes no lucas or spielberg.just a flash in the pan.
okay lets take a look at this
The directing in Star Wars was flat. Damnit it was Cardboard. That film only
worked because of a FANTASTIC editing job by his ex-wife Marcia (The only
CREATIVE talent in the family) and John Williams's score. Any depth any of
the characters had was given them by the writing and directing in the second
movie.
Spielberg. Okay great technician, though I'm surprised he hasn't overdosed on
the pure sachrine he's spoon-feeding his audiences. Great technician who
hasn't had the reason to challenge himself in years. Creativity NEVER plays
it safe like he does. If he actually does something "Dangerous" we'll see,
but It's been a long time.
Cameron is over-rated, but of the three he's the only one who's creative
enough and visionary enough to write his own work and push the envelope with
technical and creative success. (I'll note that I exclude True Lies from his
"creative" achievements) If you look at Strange Days as the movie he should
have done after The Abyss (He did after all do story/script work on it) then
what I'm saying makes more sense. He's at least the technician that Speilberg
is and has more vision.
Yeah I know that means NOTHING to those who just want to be entertained but
somewhere there is truth to the fact pushing what the medium CAN do is better
than doing the same stuff very well. Cameron may not be entirely at that
level, but he's doing it CREATIVELY better that either Lucas or Speilberg.
Steven Clark
okay,lets just look at it another way.camerons rich,and if you were as
wealthy as he is in this country,you could make good movies too.,or
should i say long overindulgent films,t-2,aliens and the abyss are great
but i think its down hill from there.they dont compare to the starwars
triology and/or jurassic park/e.t.....with enough wealth anyone can be
famous.
Garbanzola
Steven Clark writes :
T2, Aliens and The Abyss are great, but it's downhill from there?!? He's
only made ONE film after those three! Hardly enough evidence to conclude
that his career is going down the toilet. You could have said the same
thing
about Spielberg's career when he gave the world "1941" (my apologies,
1941 fans) after the brilliance of "Jaws" and "Close Encounters." But then
came "Raiders" and "E.T." Give Cameron time to produce more work before
saying his career is over.
Pete