FRAUD: Kevin Nelson (gogetter@primenet.com) [LITTLE MERMAID SCAM]
Elbert Dah-Shiun Yen
goge...@primenet.com, is a cheat and a fraud who steals money from
people who love Disney Classic animated features.
On December 3, 1995, he agreed to sell me a mint Little Mermaid
laserdisc for $135. I sent him a check for $139, which cleared his
account on December 20, 1995. He did not contact me again for almost
3 weeks after that despite my many attempts to contact him. Finally,
after I contacted the postmaster at primenet reporting my concern,
Mr. Nelson emailed me on January 8, 1996 to say that he would be
mailing the Little Mermaid laserdisc to me.
I received a laserdisc mailing box on January 10, 1996--almost
a month after mailing my check. It had:
LITTLE MERMAID LASERDISC ENCLOSED
FRAGILE: DO NOT BEND OR EXPOSE TO HEAT
LITTLE MERMAID LASERDISC ENCLOSED
written in red ink in large letters all over the outside of the box.
INSIDE THERE WAS NO LASERDISC, just 2 pieces of cardboard. He
now claims that someone must have stolen the laserdisc. Why did he
write Little Mermaid laserdisc all over the outside of the box?
So that he could make the claim that it must have been stolen.
I know of other parties that have been ripped off by Kevin Nelson.
One person waited over a month after having his check cashed, and
ended up receiving Goodtime videotapes of the Little Mermaid instead of
the Disney Classics that he paid for.
I am working with the Postal Inspector and the FBI on this matter.
If you have been victimized by Kevin Nelson, please email me or contact
the authorities. If you haven't dealt with him before, I advise you
not to. He is a scam artist, and guilty of MAIL FRAUD.
And Kevin Nelson, if you are reading this post, I advise you to
refund my money or provide the merchandise that I paid for, or you face
a heavy penalty for the crime that you have commited.
Elbert Yen
Stargazer
of Kevin Nelson (if that's even his real name.)
Now the question remains: how can one foretell if (s)he is dealing with a crook
when conducting business over the internet.
I propose some sort of "Netbureau" like the Better Business Bureau, which could
assign codes to registered businesses or individuals. This code could then be
referenced by anyone at a Netbureau home page or by e-mailing for verification
of a specific code. All people selling something over the net could register
with the bureau. One of the main conditions of being granted a code number
would be an easily traceable address and phone number for the business, and a
willingness for the business to offer a full 30-day money back guarantee on all
goods sold (like any reputable mail order company does these days).
What do you think?
Crooks must be stopped!!!!
--Stargazer
TM. (C) Magyar Dudes Productions
Stargazer
kenneth mcalinden
: Thanks to Elbert Yen for warning the rest of us about the fraudulent activities
: of Kevin Nelson (if that's even his real name.)
: Now the question remains: how can one foretell if (s)he is dealing with a crook
: when conducting business over the internet.
: I propose some sort of "Netbureau" like the Better Business Bureau, which could
[Yadda Yadda Yadda incredibly complicated enforcement plan]
Or people who get gypped can post the who what where when and how of the
rip-off in the newsgroup and we can be informed consumers in the forums in
which the rip-off "artistes" are working.
--
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* Ken McAlinden *
* kmca...@umdsun2.umd.umich.edu *
* Dearborn, MI USA *
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Adam C. Gott
>: Now the question remains: how can one foretell if (s)he is dealing with a crook
>: when conducting business over the internet.
>: I propose some sort of "Netbureau" like the Better Business Bureau, which could
>Or people who get gypped can post the who what where when and how of the
>rip-off in the newsgroup and we can be informed consumers in the forums in
>which the rip-off "artistes" are working.
That is a somewhat effective method but usually those that set out to
rip a bunch of people off get a 'quickie' account (AOL is great for
this) and then do a bunch of business on an account that will soon be
abandoned. The best method to avoid getting ripped off on the net is
to get a few references from others that have successfully traded with
a person. This is not one hundred percent foolproof but I can almost
guarantee you that this Little Mermaid thing wouldn't have happened
had this been done. If a person has no references don't refuse to
trade just make them send their end of the deal first. ALWAYS.
Derrick Rowlandson
>Stargazer (stargazer) wrote:
>: Thanks to Elbert Yen for warning the rest of us about the fraudulent activities
>: of Kevin Nelson (if that's even his real name.)
>Or people who get gypped can post the who what where when and how of the
>rip-off in the newsgroup and we can be informed consumers in the forums in
>which the rip-off "artistes" are working.
Too late for some of us. I got ripped off by this Kevin Nelson also ($140).
He lives in Crystal Minneapollis (near Minnesotta), and has an unlisted
telephone number. Me and *************** will pay a surprise visit
when I travel through the area this spring. I have good friends in
the telecommunications industry.
What recourse do we have for having the law deal with crooks of this
nature? I have email promising goods, and receipt for a money order that was
cashed on Jan 02.
Derrick
jgleich
>
> kmca...@elvis.umd.umich.edu (kenneth mcalinden) wrote:
: Now the question remains: how can one foretell if (s)he is dealing
with a crook when conducting business over the internet. I propose
some sort of "Netbureau" like the Better Business Bureau, which
could
of the rip-off in the newsgroup and we can be informed consumers in
the forums in which the rip-off "artistes" are working.
rip a bunch of people off get a 'quickie' account (AOL is great for
this) and then do a bunch of business on an account that will soon be
abandoned. The best method to avoid getting ripped off on the net is
to get a few references from others that have successfully traded
with a person. This is not one hundred percent foolproof but I can
almost guarantee you that this Little Mermaid thing wouldn't have
happened had this been done. If a person has no references don't
refuse to trade just make them send their end of the deal first.
ALWAYS.
In addition..
Get them to do a "Inspect" COD - where you can open and inspect the
package before paying for it. -- and always pay by check NO CASH
COD this way if it IS a fake -- you can always stop the check.
but the best way.. IN PERSON!
\\__o<
Ted Garoutte
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>In addition..
>Get them to do a "Inspect" COD - where you can open and inspect the
>package before paying for it. -- and always pay by check NO CASH
>COD this way if it IS a fake -- you can always stop the check.
>but the best way.. IN PERSON!
You will find very few people who will take COD check payment...the
party has the item even if they pay with a bad check...it's then up to
the seller to try and collect...I for one will not take a personal
check over the net due to this...the crooks are not always the sellers
as I had a gentleman (used lightly) give me a bogus Credit Card Number
for some merchandise a couple a days ago...if we didn't check all
Credit Cards I would have been out the merchandise...if possible pay
by Credit Card, the seller is guarenteid payment and you have recourse
if you are cheated....BY ALL MEANS BE CAREFUL, but be relistic in your
dealings, don't be afraid to ask for references, and by the same token
if someone uses you for a reference give them one (unless you were
cheated, then say so).
Sean A. Santiago
(Derrick Rowlandson) wrote:
-> He lives in Crystal Minneapollis (near Minnesotta), and has an unlisted
-> telephone number. Me and *************** will pay a surprise visit
-> when I travel through the area this spring. I have good friends in
-> the telecommunications industry.
->
-> What recourse do we have for having the law deal with crooks of this
-> nature? I have email promising goods, and receipt for a money order that was
-> cashed on Jan 02.
->
-> Derrick
Just a casual FYI (not like I am encourging anyone) but it is Crystal,
Minnesota. Crystal is a suburb of Minneapolis. Northern suburb.
-=Sean
---
Sean A. Santiago
re...@onramp.net
Northern Telecom
Richardson, TX
My views are my own and are not necessarily my employers.
Paul Thornton @unplug
>Get them to do a "Inspect" COD - where you can open and inspect the
>package before paying for it. -- and always pay by check NO CASH
>COD this way if it IS a fake -- you can always stop the check.
>but the best way.. IN PERSON!
I emailed "Kevin Nelson" asking him if he would ship COD with me
picking up any additional postage fees.
He replied to me saying "No way". So I said "no thanks".
I'm glad I did now.
-- Paul