Laserdisc player with sharpest image + Pal versions
Riccardo
on the following links respectively:
My situation: I have both PAL and NTSC LDs. I currently have two
players: Pioneer DVL-909 (European version, but it can play NTSC
discs, too), that I bought new 10+ years ago and Sony MDP-650D
(European but it can play NTSC), that I got used on eBay about 1 year
ago and which I bought because of its sharpness button. None of the
two is satisfying me, because they both give an image that seems
sharpened down, just like you do with old VHS recorders with sharpness
knob or slide when you turn the knob CCW or when you move the slide to
the left.
My goal: I would like to enjoy a sharpened and detailed image from my
player, whichever it will be, that is why I started the first topic.
Following directions I got from that topic, I started the second one,
because I would like to get only one player for both PAL and NTSC
discs, but I seem to understand that it is not possible to have just
one player for both standards.
Anyhow, Kevin Hawerchuk said:
>For sheer sharpness, the D703/D704/Elite 79/Elite 99 domestic models had
>extremely sharp pictures, as well as the old CLD 1010 model, which used
>a red laser diode.
>These players are so sharp that they can show every flaw, speckle,
>white-line dropout, ect, that's on the disc.
I guess that flaws, speckles and dropouts would not bother me that
much, but I read in this thread
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.video.laserdisc/browse_thread/thread/717eb6ac40f43371#
that
>Elite LD S2 isn't prone to CLV color smear, unlike some other models.
(post #3) . I guess that color smear could be annoying
Therefore my question is: is any among D703/D704/Elite 79/Elite 99 and
CLD 1010 prone to CLV color smear?
Also, Windmolen said that CLD-D925 is the best PAL/NTSC AC3/DTS player
ever and that it beats the DVL 909 and 919 hands down.
To me, DVL 909 is an easy win in terms of picture quality, but anyway
this CLD-D925 could be an interesting choice as it could play both
standards. But is it prone to color smear? Also, does it have a very
detailed and sharpest picture?
@ Nico de Vries: when you say that
>Here's my bit. All is based on actual experiences with the players
>mentioned:
>PAL, composite: Pioneer CLD-1050 (PAL version of the CLD-1010)
>PAL, RGB: Philips LDP-600WS (beats everything in PAL, no auto reverse or digital frame memory though)
>NTSC, composite: 1. Elite LD-S2/LD-X1
2. Elite CLD-97/CLD-98
3. Elite CLD-99
>NTSC, RGB: Philips LDP-600WS
are you talking about detail and sharpness or about overall quality?
Also, Unclejr said:
>It is generally believed that for s-video, it's the HLD-X9 and for composite, it's the HLD-X0.
but I guess that he is not talking just about details, but about an
overall quality, ins't he?
Anyhow, I read elsewhere among the threads in this group that X0 and
X9 are "reference" models, so they could be a good choice, but do they
give a very detailed and sharp image? Also, I guess that there are no
X0 and X9 Pal versions... right?
Thanks to all people that participated to the two original threads!
Oliver Brose
> Also, Windmolen said that CLD-D925 is the best PAL/NTSC AC3/DTS player
> ever and that it beats the DVL 909 and 919 hands down.
> To me, DVL 909 is an easy win in terms of picture quality, but anyway
> this CLD-D925 could be an interesting choice as it could play both
> standards. But is it prone to color smear? Also, does it have a very
> detailed and sharpest picture?
I'd guess so. Color smear is not much of an issue, though CLV will of
course rarely look as good as CAV. It is also less prone to break than
the combo-players. Depending on budget you of course want a high end
japanese unit (but PAL?), otherwise you'll be fine with the 925. Anyway,
what I read from all the "I want sharpness" talk is really "I want an
upscaler". You're dealing with Laserdisc. It has its limitations.
Oliver
Riccardo
I agree that it has limitations, but it should have 400+ lines
horizontal resolution. I understand that it depends on how good the LD
is mastered, but I just have the impression that my players are not
letting me to get the best from my discs. It always seems that there
is some sharpness knob turn to the minimun, I mean: it seems that
there is some kind of blur applied in horizontal direction. I have
SVHS tapes recorded from payTV that have a more detailed image and I
don't think that SVHS has less limitations than Laserdisc.
lars
Pioneer CLD 2800 PAL only player
Those are in my opinion and my experience the 2 best PAL laserdisc
players I own ( and I own over 20 different models).
For NTSC I recommend the Pioneer LD -S9
Chet
@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, r_rom...@hotmail.com says...
SVHS can exceed LD by quite a bit, depending on the unit. I have seven
SVHS machines and only the budget model that I put in my office has a
resolution that I find fault with. If you're not happy with the picture
then turn up the sharpness on your TV. Either at the deck or the TV,
you're introducing fake sharpness anyway.
CB