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R. Scott Sherman

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May 6, 2003, 9:25:17 AM5/6/03
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The Indiana trilogy is coming out on DVD in November on a 4 disk set.
Yippee!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2003-05-06-indy_x.htm


Mike

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May 6, 2003, 11:00:28 AM5/6/03
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"R. Scott Sherman" <RSc...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> The Indiana trilogy is coming out on DVD in November on a 4 disk set.
> Yippee!
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2003-05-06-indy_x.htm

Thanks for the info... something to look forward to! :)

Best info in article...

"When Spielberg edited ET the Extra-Terrestrial last year for the
long-awaited DVD release, he digitally removed some guns because of the
film's young audience. But no changes were made to the Indy series."

Yay!

--
Mike


Derek Janssen

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May 6, 2003, 1:18:40 PM5/6/03
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So....you sound kind of happy that we're not getting individual disks.

Derek Janssen (expect Electronic Boutiques everywhere to be flooded with
used "Last Crusade"'s one week later)
dja...@rcn.com

Derek Janssen

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May 6, 2003, 1:22:19 PM5/6/03
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Mike wrote:
>
> > The Indiana trilogy is coming out on DVD in November on a 4 disk set.
> > Yippee!
> >
> > http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2003-05-06-indy_x.htm
>
> Best info in article...
>
> "When Spielberg edited ET the Extra-Terrestrial last year for the
> long-awaited DVD release, he digitally removed some guns because of the
> film's young audience. But no changes were made to the Indy series."

That sound you hear is several hundred a.v.d.'ers deleting the Send-Mail
posts they'd started to compose on reading the first headline, and going
"....Oh, damn!" ;)

Derek Janssen
dja...@rcn.com

ff-paramedic

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May 6, 2003, 1:55:15 PM5/6/03
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Indiana's coming? I thought he was still just breathing hard.

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spoch

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May 6, 2003, 6:42:58 PM5/6/03
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On Tue, 6 May 2003 10:00:28 -0500, "Mike" <so...@sorry.com> wrote:

>"When Spielberg edited ET the Extra-Terrestrial last year for the
>long-awaited DVD release, he digitally removed some guns because of the
>film's young audience. But no changes were made to the Indy series."


What exactly does "no changes" mean? Does this mean that they didn't
"remove" anything but possibly "added" something, like to the title?
Does this mean they didn't change from their last THX VHS release or
they didn't change from the original theatrical release?

I and many others in this newsgroup were under the impression that the
dvd release will resemble the VHS THX release--which DID digitally
change the original "Raiders of the Lost Ark" title to "Indiana Jones
and The Raiders of the Lost Ark" for marketing purposes to make it
sound more like a Indy trilogy. This has caused non-editting movie
viewers to groan.

Any confirmation on the title of the first dvd? Will it be "Raiders
of the Lost Ark" or "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark?"

Not to be pessimistic but I wager 20K that they will use the digitally
added title, "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark," and they
will lie to everyone that that's the way it has always been. History
tends to repeat itself. And people are generally overly trusting
(guillible) of those in power. But who can blame them since the media
is all about population mind control for the sake of capital mining.

CLOSEDOWN8

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May 6, 2003, 8:00:57 PM5/6/03
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>I and many others in this newsgroup were under the impression that the
>dvd release will resemble the VHS THX release--which DID digitally
>change the original "Raiders of the Lost Ark" title to "Indiana Jones
>and The Raiders of the Lost Ark" for marketing purposes to make it
>sound more like a Indy trilogy.

No, it didn't. The box art said "Indiana Jones & Raiders of the Lost Ark" but
the film itself had the same old "Raiders of the Lost Ark" title card.

>This has caused non-editting movie
>viewers to groan.

No, it didn't, but your post causes people who love accuracy to groan.

>Any confirmation on the title of the first dvd? Will it be "Raiders
>of the Lost Ark" or "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark?"

If the VHS is any indication, NO.

>Not to be pessimistic but I wager 20K that they will use the digitally
>added title, "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark," and they
>will lie to everyone that that's the way it has always been.

You're going to bet $20,000 on this when all the evidence points to you being
wrong?

>History
>tends to repeat itself.

You're right, and the original title card will most likely be unchanged, just
like it was for the VHS version.

>And people are generally overly trusting
>(guillible) of those in power.

Some people are also paranoid (IE: you)

>But who can blame them since the media
>is all about population mind control for the sake of capital mining.

That may be true, but how does adding three words to the title of a movie
apply?
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George Hernandez

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May 6, 2003, 8:13:20 PM5/6/03
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"Steve Hanson" <SteveHan...@aol.com> wrote in message
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: Derek Janssen wrote in <3EB7EE6D...@rcn.com>:
:

: >"R. Scott Sherman" wrote:
: >>
: >> The Indiana trilogy is coming out on DVD in November on a 4 disk set.
: >> Yippee!
: >>
: >> http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2003-05-06-indy_x.htm
: >
: >So....you sound kind of happy that we're not getting individual disks.
:
: I would have bought them all anyway so what do I care.

Sure - I mean who DOESN'T need a DVD set that comes with a $12.50
drink-coaster?


JWB

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May 6, 2003, 9:16:42 PM5/6/03
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"spoch" <sp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> (guillible) of those in power. But who can blame them since the media
> is all about population mind control for the sake of capital mining.

you're taking this movie stuff WAY too seriously.

JWB


LASERandDVDfan

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May 6, 2003, 9:37:39 PM5/6/03
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>The Indiana trilogy is coming out on DVD in November on a 4 disk set.
>Yippee!
>
>http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2003-05-06-indy_x.htm
>

It's about damn time! And I HATE snakes! - Reinhart

Vlvetmorning98

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May 6, 2003, 9:39:13 PM5/6/03
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>Sure - I mean who DOESN'T need a DVD set that comes with a $12.50
>drink-coaster?
>

fuck, I've got to pre-order it.

Vlvetmorning98

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May 6, 2003, 9:43:29 PM5/6/03
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Ward claims that there will be no commentaries because of the 4th disc and
"bandwidth issues" which is complete bull. Spielberg, being the ass that he is,
won't do commentaries.

Norman Wilner

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"Vlvetmorning98" <vlvetmo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Ward claims that there will be no commentaries because of
> the 4th disc and "bandwidth issues" which is complete bull.
> Spielberg, being the ass that he is, won't do commentaries.

Why does that make him an ass? Who wants to hear someone talk for six hours
when he has nothing he wants to say?

Norm Wilner
Starweek Magazine/Metro Toronto
www.zap2it.com/movies/videodvd


Raymond Chuang

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"Vlvetmorning98" <vlvetmo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I think Mr. Spielberg is of the view that real-time "running" commentaries
on a DVD doesn't add to the enjoyment of the film.

In a way, I think he's right. There are very not many people that can pull
off doing a commentary track that does add to the enjoyment of the DVD. The
commentary track Producer Don Hahn and Directors Kirk Wise and Gary
Trousdale did for The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Atlantis: the Lost Empire and
Beauty and the Beast are among the few that are fun to listen to and are
quite insightful on the various aspects of the movie.

And then there the "mother of all commentary tracks," the four-track
commentary from The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Extended
Edition. I don't think anybody has done such a level of commentary tracks
before, that's to be sure. And all of them are very insightful, giving huge
amounts of insights into the FoTR movie and how the Extended Edition was
made.

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Raymond Chuang
Mountain View, CA USA


Esben

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May 7, 2003, 4:04:43 AM5/7/03
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Fight Club had 4 commentary tracks as well and it came before LOTR so
would it be the "Grandmother of all commentary tracks" ? ;-)


Melquiades

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May 7, 2003, 8:34:47 AM5/7/03
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Used Temple of Dooms, more likely.

Mike

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May 7, 2003, 9:13:27 AM5/7/03
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"spoch" <sp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 6 May 2003 10:00:28 -0500, "Mike" <so...@sorry.com> wrote:
>
> >"When Spielberg edited ET the Extra-Terrestrial last year for the
> >long-awaited DVD release, he digitally removed some guns because of the
> >film's young audience. But no changes were made to the Indy series."
>
>
> What exactly does "no changes" mean? Does this mean that they didn't
> "remove" anything but possibly "added" something, like to the title?
> Does this mean they didn't change from their last THX VHS release or
> they didn't change from the original theatrical release?

As long as they don't change the content between the beginning and the end I
am fine. I don't care if they change the title, digitally master the sound,
add a THX logo, etc.. I just didn't want to see (for example) the swordsman
in RotLA get pushed down instead of shot (you know the part where he's
flinging his sword around and Jones shoots him).

As for the "bundling", I love RotLA, I think Temple of Doom is just plain
crap, and the last one (title? lol) is ok.

--
Mike


Bratboy

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May 7, 2003, 10:38:52 AM5/7/03
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"Mike" <so...@sorry.com> wrote in message
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> As long as they don't change the content between the beginning and the end
I
> am fine. I don't care if they change the title, digitally master the
sound,
> add a THX logo, etc.. I just didn't want to see (for example) the
swordsman
> in RotLA get pushed down instead of shot (you know the part where he's
> flinging his sword around and Jones shoots him).
>
> As for the "bundling", I love RotLA, I think Temple of Doom is just plain
> crap, and the last one (title? lol) is ok.

Exactly, if the only thing changed is the title so what...many movies get
released under new names. As long as the content is the same I'll be happy.
As for the second movie hate to say it my fav part is the opening and only
because we did "Anything Goes" in highschool so kinda neat to hear it in
another language...the rest of the movie is very mediocre to me. Still more
than happy to buy em in a set to have em all in one spot.


TSKO

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May 7, 2003, 11:26:20 AM5/7/03
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.........ppl complain when particular dvd titles dont get released......and
yet still complain when they do get released........

....for being an ass (of which I dont agree).....he has put out some damn
fine movies over the yrs....and once again....I am just happy its finally
getting released.......THANX STEVE!


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Derek Janssen

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May 7, 2003, 1:08:31 PM5/7/03
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Melquiades wrote:
>
> >So....you sound kind of happy that we're not getting individual disks.
> >
> >(expect Electronic Boutiques everywhere to be flooded with
> >used "Last Crusade"'s one week later)
>
> Used Temple of Dooms, more likely.

No, those you ENJOY trashing. Ends the distribution bloodline right there.

("Last Crusade" you feel guilty about throwing out, because, well, it
*did* have Sean Connery in it, and that opening scene; maybe someone
might find a good home for it...)

Derek Janssen
dja...@rcn.com

Evil

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May 7, 2003, 1:56:19 PM5/7/03
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"R. Scott Sherman" <RSc...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<1JOta.511783$Zo.111365@sccrnsc03>...
> The Indiana trilogy is coming out on DVD in November on a 4 disk set.
> Yippee!
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2003-05-06-indy_x.htm

From the Digital bits:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

--

Well... an interesting thing's happened this afternoon. We've just
gotten off the phone with Lucasfilm. They've told us that the initial
announcement made today is only the beginning in terms of details on
the special features to be included on the bonus disc. There are,
apparently, significant extras yet to be revealed in the weeks and
months ahead. In fact, they're apparently still working to finalize
everything to Spielberg and Lucas' satisfaction in terms of the
extras. So there is yet hope that The Adventures of Indiana Jones: The
Complete DVD Movie Collection will prove an impressive special edition
release. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

---

Cosmic Monster

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May 7, 2003, 4:10:54 PM5/7/03
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The New Line Platinum version of Se7en also has four great commetary
tracks.

Mark Spatny

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May 9, 2003, 3:37:40 PM5/9/03
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Vlvetmorning98,vlvetmo...@aol.com says...

> Spielberg, being the ass that he is,
> won't do commentaries.

I think that's great. I have greater respect for a director who lets his
work stand on its own, and lets you do the interpretation, instead of
feeding you everything. I don't expect, nor want, commentaries with
every movie any more than I want a copy of Cliffs Notes with every novel
I read.

Mike

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"Mark Spatny" <vfxpr...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ah... but what happens 50 years from now when some stupid schmuck working
for a school board forces legions of students to learn what he thinks is the
correct interpretation for a movie? I absolutely hated my academic reading
because I often disagreed with the analysis that we were fed. How does
someone born in the 20th century know anything about a literary work created
well before his or her time? THEY DON'T! Not unless the original
author/composer leaves behind notes that convey his/her opinions on his/her
own work.

--
Mike


Mark Spatny

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May 10, 2003, 1:25:44 PM5/10/03
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Mike,so...@sorry.com says...

> Not unless the original
> author/composer leaves behind notes that convey his/her opinions on his/her
> own work.

If the director is OK with that, so am I. It's his work, and his
decision to make. He is not obligated to record his thoughts for
posterity. He is only obligated to make a movie with as much artistic
integrity as possible and still make a profit.

Jim Burgan

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May 11, 2003, 9:29:11 PM5/11/03
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> Not to be pessimistic but I wager 20K that they will use the digitally
> added title, "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark," and they
> will lie to everyone that that's the way it has always been.

Just like Lucas did in SW Episode IV A New Hope (claiming the "Episode IV"
was in the original prints) and like Zemeckis did in BTTF claiming that "To
Be Continued" was NOT at the end of the theatrical release....

Max Volume

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May 11, 2003, 9:56:31 PM5/11/03
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In article <HNCva.849838$S_4.869250@rwcrnsc53>, Jim Burgan
<j...@burganHORMEL.net> wrote:

> Just like Lucas did in SW Episode IV A New Hope (claiming the "Episode IV"
> was in the original prints) and like Zemeckis did in BTTF claiming that "To
> Be Continued" was NOT at the end of the theatrical release....

Thank you, Oliver Stone. Now, care to explain why Zemeckis would lie
about that? I could see it if it wasn't there and he said it was,
because it ties the three films together. We've just seen it so often,
that it's become the "default". Besides, I don't recall him saying it
wasn't in later prints. Regardless, there are a lot of things that
weren't in *THE FIRST* print of STAR WARS -- hell, the original trailer
didn't have the logo or colored lightsabers! Is THAT revisionist?!

Yes, I would be disappointed if he started referring to STAR WARS
exclusively as A New Hope, but then the STAR WARS universe has grown
considerably since the '70s, so I think the name is a little more vague
and there is an increasing need to specify which "STAR WARS" one is
talking about.

In short, deal with it.

Michael Black

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May 12, 2003, 11:09:27 AM5/12/03
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"T.D. Shadow" <tdsh...@onelink.net> wrote in message
> That's because it wasn't. If you do a little research, you'll find
> that when the LD/VHS came out, there was major internet hoopla about
> the addition of "To Be Continued..." at the end. (People were howling
> up a storm, demanding that an un-altered-from-theatrical version be
> made available, etc.) There is a noticable absence of any mention from
> anyone that they saw TBC on the end in theares.
>
> How far back does google archive alt.video.laserdisc ?
>

1995 is the earliest mention of BTTF. There was an indeed an uproar back
then over it. Listen, we've had this debate ad nauseum when the DVDs were
released. Some people will just never believe that it wasn't included no
matter what facts you present to them.


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Eric R.

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May 13, 2003, 4:49:52 PM5/13/03
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"Raymond Chuang" <rch...@mindspring.com> wrote in message n

> I think Mr. Spielberg is of the view that real-time "running" commentaries
> on a DVD doesn't add to the enjoyment of the film.

In other words, he's either:

a) An arrogant prick who thinks doing a commentary track is beneath him
b) A boring fuck who doesn't want people to know he's a boring fuck

More than likely, it's "a". Personally, I would have voted for "c":

c) Overrated

-Eric

Vlvetmorning98

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May 13, 2003, 11:44:12 PM5/13/03
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>Personally, I would have voted for "c":
>
>c) Overrated

well, I'm certainly not a big fan of most of his post-"Empire of the Sun"
efforts.

"Always", anyone? Yuck.

Eric R.

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May 14, 2003, 8:47:56 AM5/14/03
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vlvetmo...@aol.com (Vlvetmorning98) wrote in message

As with Lucas, I did like his stuff in the 70's. But once he started
pouring on the syrup, forget it. The man's name has become synonymous
with melodrama.

-Eric

Stephen Cooke

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May 14, 2003, 9:18:29 AM5/14/03
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Well, I guess R. Dean Taylor better look out.

swac
*sirens wailing*

Cosmic Monster

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May 14, 2003, 9:38:29 AM5/14/03
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On 14 May 2003 05:47:56 -0700, elr...@pop.uky.edu (Eric R.) wrote:

>As with Lucas, I did like his stuff in the 70's. But once he started
>pouring on the syrup, forget it.

I agree. They should have chaged the name of A.I. to A.J. for Aunt
Jemima. Too many sappy Pinocchio references.

Vlvetmorning98

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May 14, 2003, 2:30:17 PM5/14/03