digital antenna to dvd-r

[internaughtfull]

Hi,

I am off the DTV and going to use free digital tv via antenna and
possibly a rokku/xbox type device to get digital tv via wifi in the
near future.

I work odd hours so would still like to record broadcasts to a Sony
DVD-R.

I've noticed that feeding the digital antenna into the 'antenna in' of
the
DVD-R does not work, I guess because it is not a digital input.

Ideally I would like to covert the signal so I can record it to DVD,
but also have a digital input going to the digital TV so that I can
see
digital tv in HD.

I'm assuming at this point that the rokku/xbox can simply feed the
component cables into the DVD-R, and then the component output
from the DVD-R can go to the digital TV successfully.

I'm not sure which splitters or converters to get however.

Also, is there a DVD-R that simply accepts digital antenna inputs and
has digital outputs? So I could hook up rokku, xbox and a digital tv
antenna and still get a digital feed to the digital tv? This would
entail buying a new DVD-R but I would like to consider the splitter/
converter option first.


thanks,
itchy

[Gary]

In UK the equipment to record will not have inputs that are digital (
except aerial) . so you will have a problem. Also I do not know of any
device that outputs digital rf that a TV could tune into like in the old
days. So you need to be a bit more specific with what you want to do and
what equipment you have.

Cheers

Gary

[internaughtfull]

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I would like to:

a. record digital tv via antenna to
the dvd-r using the timer on the dvd-r,
so I can watch them later.

b. be able to record programs that come in via rokku wifi onto dvd-r
to
view again.

c. watch dvds from the dvd-r. I already
have that hooked up.

My digital tv has several inputs, but
no video out [that would have solved the problem].
The Sony DVD-R is an RDR-VX530.
The tv is a Sanyo DP46841.
Also Xbox 360s.

I will likely try the analog/digital converter and put the digital
antenna into that, then take the output from the converter into the
DVD-R, then output from the DVD-R into the TV,
but I bet that will lose the HD quality.
Anyway thanks for any insight on this.

itchy

[Charlie Hoffpauir]

Well, that unit won't record HD from any source, as far as I can tell.
It's design is for input from analog TV signal (old, non-digital
signal) or from the VHS tape you're trying to dub. It has S-video and
composite video inputs. If you have a converter box, that will work as
an input to it.... but it's still SD not HD. It will "upscale" that SD
input to HD so it looks somewhat better when viewed on an HD TV.

BTW, there's no difference in antenna for digital broadcasts..

Recording from the roku shouldn't be a problem, but it's still only SD
on the DVR.

ref:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-RDR-VX535-Recorder-Player-Upscaling/dp/B001BVY1A2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340652524&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+rdr+vx530

[P.V.]

"internaughtfull" kirjoitti
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> I would like to:
>
> a. record digital tv via antenna to
> the dvd-r using the timer on the dvd-r,
> so I can watch them later.
>
> b. be able to record programs that come in via rokku wifi onto dvd-r
> to
> view again.
>
> c. watch dvds from the dvd-r. I already
> have that hooked up.
>
> My digital tv has several inputs, but
> no video out [that would have solved the problem].
> The Sony DVD-R is an RDR-VX530.
> The tv is a Sanyo DP46841.
> Also Xbox 360s.
>
> I will likely try the analog/digital converter and put the digital
> antenna into that, then take the output from the converter into the
> DVD-R, then output from the DVD-R into the TV,
> but I bet that will lose the HD quality.
> Anyway thanks for any insight on this.

I didn't understand the question completely; especially I have no idea what
that Roku/Rokku thing is (I'd guess it's some device on which you
temporarily record something, and which outputs the video in analog format),
but if you'd simply get a DVD-recorder with built-in DVB-T tuner, what of
the above you couldn't do with such?

Below is a list I found on DVD-recorders -- the ones that are said to have a
built-in tuner have specifically DVB-T tuner. And I'd suppose they can
record analog video too, in case you want to record something from another
device.
http://www.comparison.com.au/dvd-recorders

P.V.

[-= F =-]

internaughtfull wrote:

> I will likely try the analog/digital converter and put the digital
> antenna into that, then take the output from the converter into the
> DVD-R, then output from the DVD-R into the TV,
> but I bet that will lose the HD quality.

The loss of HD quality will be a result of DVD standards, more so than any
of the hardware -with the exception of the DVD recorder- you're likely to
use. Regardless of the source material's original video resolution, the
hardware or the transport used (S-Video, A/V cabling, composite cabling
etc), you're choice of DVD as a recording media will not allow High
Definition video.

I looked at the specs on your DVD recorder:

DVD Playback/Recording Supported:
DVD (VR mode)
DVD+R DL
DVD+R/RW
DVD-R DL
DVD-R/RW
DVD-RAM
JPEG
SVCD
VCD

The frame size for these formats:

720x480 "DVD" resolution. ReplayTV High and medium resolution
704x480 DVD standalone recorder standard resolution
640x480 4:3
544x480 TiVo Best resolution
480x480 SuperVCD (SVCD) Video CD resolution, TiVo High resolution
352x480 ReplayTV "Standard" quality, TiVo Basic and Medium res, DVD "LP" res
320x480
544x240
480x240
352x240 Video CD (VCD) resolution
320x240

Your machine may not support all these sizes but you get a clear idea of why
your concern for HD quality is... well quite moot. DVD standards supports
no High Definition resolution modes. The best you can do when recording to
your -or any- DVD recorder is 720x480. Well, at least in NTSC-land. There
are PAL standards that give a slightly better y resolution of 576. DVD
video encoding will be MPEG2.

Bottom line: your DVD recorder in a default state is likely going to give
you 704x480 mpeg2 video, ac3 compressed stereo audio, all at 29.97 frames
per second. At least if it's NTSC compliant. As stated, PAL compliant is
slightly different.

I tell you this so you do not explicitly look for a viable way to bring HD
video to your recorder. Even if you do, you won't get HD on the DVD, ever!

hint: you'd need a BluRay recorder for recording an HD source. Or an HD
video capture/tuner device installed into a fast computer.

Your solution that I quoted, will certainly work. I do something similar all
the time. (OTA antenna cable into an digital-to-analog converter, into a
Hauppauge PVR 350 TV card installed into a mildly fast computer with ample
hard drive space, connected via VGA to a 42" LCD TV. MythTV runs on the
computer. The PVR 350 only does SD video at best. Quality is good to fair.)

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[internaughtfull]

Thanks for the differentiation of blueray/HD/DVD. I will probably get
a second antenna to
feed the tv so I can see HD broadcasts, and connect the other antenna
into the A/D converter,
which will go to the DVD-R so I can record ones that I miss. That is a
good inexpensive solution for now.
Also upgrading my DVD-R looks worthwhile. I do have an antenna
splitter and will try that, but I read
that you lose signal.

itchy