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Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 11:25:10 AM10/19/09
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Some of my applications hang while opening, until I press Ctrl-Alt-Del
and launch the Windows Security dialog box (where the Task Manager
utility is located). When I open Task Manager, it shows the
application is running. When I exit Task Manager, and the window is
redisplayed, the application is running. There is never an error. If I
don't Ctrl-Alt-Del, the application will hang for at least 2 or 3
minutes; honestly, I've never let it go longer to see when it will
actually load completely. Some internet searches have turned up
similar problems, but no real solutions.

This happens with Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, SolidWorks, and
a few other applications. It doesn't happen with ProEngineer,
FrameMaker, Microsoft Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.

The other weird thing is that this started happening awhile back with
my old work computer. This computer was completely replaced, and it is
still occurring. My desktop and user profiles were all reinstalled on
the new computer.

I run UltraMon for a dual-monitor configuration. I've turned this
utility off, and I still get the problem.

Any help would be appreciated.

RichTravsky

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Oct 19, 2009, 11:45:22 AM10/19/09
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How about posting only to appropiate groups?

Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 11:50:57 AM10/19/09
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I've found that there are plenty of computer experts that are also
experts in other subjects. I am casting a wide net, in the hope that
someone in one of the groups will be able to help me. In other words,
just because this is x-posted, doesn't mean I'm trying to be malicious.

Roland Hutchinson

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Oct 19, 2009, 12:45:54 PM10/19/09
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How about getting a real operating system?

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Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 12:53:06 PM10/19/09
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On Oct 19, 11:45 am, Roland Hutchinson <my.spamt...@verizon.net>
wrote:

Yeah, it would be nice if they'd let me run OS X on a mac.
Unfortunately, I don't get to choose my OS, at my place of business.

MoParMaN

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Oct 19, 2009, 1:34:26 PM10/19/09
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You need more RAM and cache memory or both. Check hard drive and make sure
it's not full. Cleanup your temp files, run defrag, increase ramdisk size.


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dam

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Oct 19, 2009, 1:39:42 PM10/19/09
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Loose nut behind the keyboard?

dam

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Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 1:42:46 PM10/19/09
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Someone told me that there may be a short between the keyboard and the
chair. I'm checking that one out now.

Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 2:01:29 PM10/19/09
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There's about 95 GB remaining of free space on the hard drive. I clean
up the temp files all the time with CCleaner. I have 4 GB of physical
memory installed. Given the amount of applications I run
simultaneously, this should be more than adequate. Or, it has been up
until this started. I changed the virtual memory setting to "system
managed." It was 2045, or something like that.

Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 2:02:20 PM10/19/09
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On Oct 19, 12:34 pm, "MoParMaN" <scott.hend...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

still hangs at the launch

MoParMaN

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Oct 19, 2009, 3:07:21 PM10/19/09
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When I start Excel, it takes about 1 1/2 minutes for it to be displayed. In
my case it's the virus program checking it first. Same with IE, word, etc.

MoParMaN

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Oct 19, 2009, 3:08:34 PM10/19/09
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It's not hung if it finally appears, it's just taking its sweet time. Virus
program and or Google desktop or google anthing will cause it too.

Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 3:14:10 PM10/19/09
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Are you using Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection by any chance?

MoParMaN

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Oct 19, 2009, 3:16:30 PM10/19/09
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Nope, Sophos corporate version.

MoParMaN

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Oct 19, 2009, 3:19:29 PM10/19/09
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When you start something go to the task master first and process and see
what's using all your resources.....That'll be the culprit.

Google Beta User

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Oct 19, 2009, 3:41:40 PM10/19/09
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On Oct 19, 12:45 pm, Roland Hutchinson <my.spamt...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> >> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> > How about posting only to appropiate groups?
>
> How about getting a real operating system?

Leopard, Vista...7?

Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 3:49:44 PM10/19/09
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1. Open Task Manager. All programs running, all process running.
Nothing unusual taking up resources. Leave Task Manager open.
2. Open Adobe Illustrator. It hangs like normal.
3. Illustrator process shows running; Task Manager shows Illustrator
not responding.
4. Close Task Manager. Illustrator still hanging in background.
5. Hit Ctrl-Alt-Del bringing up Windows Security dialog box.
6. Hit the Cancel button (I don't even open Task Manager).
7. Illustrator running fine when window redisplayed.

MoParMaN

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Oct 19, 2009, 3:56:42 PM10/19/09
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Hmm, What kinda PC?

Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 4:05:56 PM10/19/09
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HP XW4600 Workstation

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Oct 19, 2009, 4:56:13 PM10/19/09
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT), Mercellus Bohren
<merce...@yahoo.com>wrote:

Look for ctfmon.exe, it's a spyware virus and hard to remove. It can
cause severe lagging issues

Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:05:25 PM10/19/09
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On Oct 19, 3:56 pm, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤

<sckf...@lycos.com > wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT), Mercellus Bohren
> <mercell...@yahoo.com>wrote:

According to Microsoft, it's a service they install for alternative
language/input support for XP. It can cause severe lagging issues,
like you suggest. It can be turned off. I'm going to try that and see
if it helps.

I've also read that if I have a corrupt font installed, this may also
be causing these applications to hang when they try to load a
corrupted font set.

MoParMaN

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:20:11 PM10/19/09
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Have you tried disabling Hyperthreading?

Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 19, 2009, 6:07:33 PM10/19/09
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Looked for it in the BIOS setup. Didn't see this option anywhere. All
I see is something called "Multi-processor support" enable/disable.
Figured I didn't want to do that. Supposedly, there should have been
the option under Advanced Power Options; but, it wasn't there.

MoParMaN

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Oct 19, 2009, 7:22:18 PM10/19/09
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Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> Looked for it in the BIOS setup. Didn't see this option anywhere. All
> I see is something called "Multi-processor support" enable/disable.
> Figured I didn't want to do that. Supposedly, there should have been
> the option under Advanced Power Options; but, it wasn't there.

It's in the BIOS.

If you don't have an Intel CPU, you won't have Hyperthreading.

BillyZoom

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Oct 19, 2009, 9:19:00 PM10/19/09
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Uh uh. No No No.

SNORKY

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Oct 19, 2009, 9:20:59 PM10/19/09
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Maybe one of those suspects is trying to ping an update site but is
being snagged by a firewall.

rmacfarl

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Oct 19, 2009, 9:21:08 PM10/19/09
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robert bowman

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Oct 19, 2009, 10:36:46 PM10/19/09
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Mercellus Bohren wrote:

> Any help would be appreciated.

What AV are you running? Some of them will stop you in your tracks, and need
to be set up to exclude trusted programs and directories.

Jefferson N. Glapski

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Oct 20, 2009, 1:37:51 AM10/20/09
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Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> Some of my applications hang while opening, until I press Ctrl-Alt-Del
> and launch the Windows Security dialog box (where the Task Manager
> utility is located). When I open Task Manager, it shows the
> application is running. When I exit Task Manager, and the window is
> redisplayed, the application is running. There is never an error. If I
> don't Ctrl-Alt-Del, the application will hang for at least 2 or 3
> minutes; honestly, I've never let it go longer to see when it will
> actually load completely. Some internet searches have turned up
> similar problems, but no real solutions.
>
> This happens with Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, SolidWorks, and
> a few other applications. It doesn't happen with ProEngineer,
> FrameMaker, Microsoft Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.
>
> The other weird thing is that this started happening awhile back with
> my old work computer. This computer was completely replaced, and it is
> still occurring. My desktop and user profiles were all reinstalled on
> the new computer.
>
> I run UltraMon for a dual-monitor configuration. I've turned this
> utility off, and I still get the problem.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.

http://www.ubuntu.com

You're welcome.

Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 20, 2009, 8:31:52 AM10/20/09
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On Oct 19, 8:20 pm, SNORKY <sno...@snorky.zz> wrote:
> Maybe one of those suspects is trying to ping an update site but is
> being snagged by a firewall.

Dam-bit. I'll bet this is it.

jerry warner

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Oct 26, 2009, 4:30:40 AM10/26/09
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Mercellus Bohren wrote:

> > How about posting only to appropiate groups?
>

> I've found that there are plenty of computer experts that are also
> experts in other subjects. I am casting a wide net,

and you ask WHY! your computer aps dont werk?
GET A LIFE dildo brain...


Mercellus Bohren

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Oct 26, 2009, 10:58:11 AM10/26/09
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Thanks for reminding me about this.

Turns out, it may be my user profile that is corrupted, so I'm going
to rebuild that. I found this out when an IT support person was
remotely logged into my system to install a new application. I told
him to watch something to see if he knew what it was. While he was
logged into my system remotely, using a remote user profile, these
applications launched perfectly. When he logged out, they would hang
again.

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