Class Action Suit against Todd Hoyt and SaberTooth...2

[SeekerSA]

http://www.thecoven.org/trials.htm
If you have ever been cheated or frauded by Sabretooth, Inc., (STI) and
Aaron Todd Hoyt (Mr. Hoyt) please submit a testimonial of your
experiences to litig...@thecoven.org. We are funding legal support for
the Vampyre community in order to put a stop to this organization and
it's founders' heinous crimes against Vampyres.
In our opinion, Sabretooth, Inc. is a dangerous and unscrupulous
organization, and we have banded together to protect our rights and to
seek justice and monetary compensation.
More information and updates on the proceedings to follow shortly.
Note: Sabretooth, Inc. is being represented by Jan Gellery Esq.
{{Please Note: the above information was copied directly from the Web Site
to better inform those who feel they have a claim}}
Catherene

[Jarno Uurainen]

SeekerSA <seek...@aol.com> wrote:

: http://www.thecoven.org/trials.htm

: If you have ever been cheated or frauded by Sabretooth, Inc., (STI) and
: Aaron Todd Hoyt (Mr. Hoyt) please submit a testimonial of your
: experiences to litig...@thecoven.org. We are funding legal support for
: the Vampyre community in order to put a stop to this organization and
: it's founders' heinous crimes against Vampyres.

Oh. Funny. I never thought that you Real Vampyres _buy_ your fangs :-P

-Jake

[sbre...@ns.sympatico.ca]

In article <67muth$cbg$1...@luola.kontunet.fi>,

Mmmmm. We don't.

Susannah

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[White Spirit]

Jarno Uurainen wrote:

> SeekerSA <seek...@aol.com> wrote:

[snipped]

> Oh. Funny. I never thought that you Real Vampyres _buy_ your fangs :-P

Maybe the DNA altering BSE virus also rots their teeth? :-j

[Jarno Uurainen]

White Spirit <wsp...@hotmail.com> wrote:

: > Oh. Funny. I never thought that you Real Vampyres _buy_ your fangs :-P

: Maybe the DNA altering BSE virus also rots their teeth? :-j

Oh. I never thought of _THAT_ :-)

-Jake

[Sanguinar1]

>Maybe the DNA altering BSE virus also rots their teeth? :-j
>
>

*snerkle* vampire dentures?
--Sanguinarius

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[Vampmag]

I would suggest that you all check out www.sabretooth.com. These guys are
causing trouble to the scene and attacking Sabretooth in illegal ways.

If you would like to contact Sabretooth about this issue please Email:
in...@sabretooth.com. They would be happy to discuss it.

Eternally
Todd Hoyt

[jenki...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, December 21, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, SeekerSA wrote:
> http://www.thecoven.org/trials.htm
> If you have ever been cheated or frauded by Sabretooth, Inc., (STI) and
> Aaron Todd Hoyt (Mr. Hoyt) please submit a testimonial of your
> experiences to litig...@thecoven.org. We are funding legal support for
> the Vampyre community in order to put a stop to this organization and
> it's founders' heinous crimes against Vampyres.

> In our opinion, Sabretooth, Inc. is a dangerous and unscrupulous
> organization, and we have banded together to protect our rights and to
> seek justice and monetary compensation.
> More information and updates on the proceedings to follow shortly.
> Note: Sabretooth, Inc. is being represented by Jan Gellery Esq.
> {{Please Note: the above information was copied directly from the Web Site
> to better inform those who feel they have a claim}}
> Catherene

Aaron Todd Hoyt is a destructive pathological liar. I have a very personal story to share about why. It was twenty plus years ago but at the risk of embarrassing myself I will let the truth be known now anyway. Todd introduced me to Sandra, my first love years ago. I ended up losing my virginity to Sandra. For absolutely no reason, Todd lied to Sandra telling her that sucked him off. This is a total lie. I never did anything sexual with Todd, not ever. He no doubt did this just to put a wedge between Sandra and I, which worked to some extent, because she believed him. When I used to work with Todd briefly helping him sell his fangs at a goth club in New York, I met this blonde goth girl, and I don’t remember her name. She told me that Todd had lied to people saying that they had sex, which they most certainly didn’t. I wish I had believed her, because Todd ended up doing the same thing to me. This is the absolute worst case of betrayal I’ve ever been through from a man who at the time I considered to be a good friend. There should be a law against this kind of malice, but I don’t have the resources to sue him for defamation, and it was a very long time ago. I can’t put into words the level of hurt and anger I have towards Todd. I will never forget what he did, and I absolutely will never forgive him. I discourage anyone from going to any of his parties or supporting any of his success by buying his products. He doesn’t deserve your money, and he sure as hell doesn’t deserve to live in a great city like Paris. There is no telling what else Todd may be capable of. If there are other men and women who have been through the same thing (sexual harassment) at the hands of Todd Hoyt, a.k.a Sebastian or whatever the stupid hell he chooses to call himself, do not be ashamed to come forward. “Vampires” have nothing to do with it. -Theo

[jenki...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, December 23, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, sbre...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
> In article <67muth$cbg$1...@luola.kontunet.fi>,
> Jarno Uurainen <ja...@kontunet.fi> wrote:
> >

> > SeekerSA <seek...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > : http://www.thecoven.org/trials.htm
> > : If you have ever been cheated or frauded by Sabretooth, Inc., (STI) and
> > : Aaron Todd Hoyt (Mr. Hoyt) please submit a testimonial of your
> > : experiences to litig...@thecoven.org. We are funding legal support for
> > : the Vampyre community in order to put a stop to this organization and
> > : it's founders' heinous crimes against Vampyres.
> >

> > Oh. Funny. I never thought that you Real Vampyres _buy_ your fangs :-P
> >

> > -Jake
>
> Mmmmm. We don't.
>
>
> Susannah
>
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[jenki...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, December 24, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Jarno Uurainen wrote:
> White Spirit <wsp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> : > Oh. Funny. I never thought that you Real Vampyres _buy_ your fangs :-P
>
> : Maybe the DNA altering BSE virus also rots their teeth? :-j

>
> Oh. I never thought of _THAT_ :-)
>
> -Jake

[jenki...@gmail.com]

[Incubus]

> Aaron Todd Hoyt is a destructive pathological liar. I have a very personal story to share about why. It was twenty plus years ago but at the risk of embarrassing myself I will let the truth be known now anyway. Todd introduced me to Sandra, my first love years ago. I ended up losing my virginity to Sandra. For absolutely no reason, Todd lied to Sandra telling her that sucked him off. This is a total lie. I never did anything sexual with Todd, not ever. He no doubt did this just to put a wedge between Sandra and I, which worked to some extent, because she believed him. When I used to work with Todd briefly helping him sell his fangs at a goth club in New York, I met this blonde goth girl, and I don’t remember her name. She told me that Todd had lied to people saying that they had sex, which they most certainly didn’t. I wish I had believed her, because Todd ended up doing the same thing to me. This is the absolute worst case of betrayal I’ve ever been through from a man who at the time I considered to be a good friend. There should be a law against this kind of malice, but I don’t have the resources to sue him for defamation, and it was a very long time ago. I can’t put into words the level of hurt and anger I have towards Todd. I will never forget what he did, and I absolutely will never forgive him. I discourage anyone from going to any of his parties or supporting any of his success by buying his products. He doesn’t deserve your money, and he sure as hell doesn’t deserve to live in a great city like Paris. There is no telling what else Todd may be capable of. If there are other men and women who have been through the same thing (sexual harassment) at the hands of Todd Hoyt, a.k.a Sebastian or whatever the stupid hell he chooses to call himself, do not be ashamed to come forward. “Vampires” have nothing to do with it. -Theo

If this occurred over twenty years ago, isn't it time to let it go? I'd be willing to bet that he isn't spending his time thinking about you.

[Incubus]

On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 1:55:43 AM UTC, theo...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Incubus wrote:
> > > Aaron Todd Hoyt is a destructive pathological liar. I have a very personal story to share about why. It was twenty plus years ago but at the risk of embarrassing myself I will let the truth be known now anyway. Todd introduced me to Sandra, my first love years ago. I ended up losing my virginity to Sandra. For absolutely no reason, Todd lied to Sandra telling her that sucked him off. This is a total lie. I never did anything sexual with Todd, not ever. He no doubt did this just to put a wedge between Sandra and I, which worked to some extent, because she believed him. When I used to work with Todd briefly helping him sell his fangs at a goth club in New York, I met this blonde goth girl, and I don’t remember her name. She told me that Todd had lied to people saying that they had sex, which they most certainly didn’t. I wish I had believed her, because Todd ended up doing the same thing to me. This is the absolute worst case of betrayal I’ve ever been through from a man who at the time I considered to be a good friend. There should be a law against this kind of malice, but I don’t have the resources to sue him for defamation, and it was a very long time ago. I can’t put into words the level of hurt and anger I have towards Todd. I will never forget what he did, and I absolutely will never forgive him. I discourage anyone from going to any of his parties or supporting any of his success by buying his products. He doesn’t deserve your money, and he sure as hell doesn’t deserve to live in a great city like Paris. There is no telling what else Todd may be capable of. If there are other men and women who have been through the same thing (sexual harassment) at the hands of Todd Hoyt, a.k.a Sebastian or whatever the stupid hell he chooses to call himself, do not be ashamed to come forward. “Vampires” have nothing to do with it. -Theo
> >
> > If this occurred over twenty years ago, isn't it time to let it go? I'd be willing to bet that he isn't spending his time thinking about you.
>

> If Todd apologized to me and if he was truly sincere I would forgive him. But how would I know if he was lying or not? I can let it go, but I want the truth to be known. If Todd did this to you, how would you feel about it?

I imagine that I would feel hurt and betrayed if someone did that to me. I do know, however, that it would be essential that I deal with any resentment and move on. Some people have the luxury of being able to hang on to resentments but I don't.

If things transpired as you said (I've never met him), he might not even be the same person today.

[Incubus]

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 2:44:03 PM UTC, theo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 9:40:46 AM UTC-5, theo...@gmail.com wrote:

> > I'll tell you this, I'll consider forgiving Todd when he tells Sandra Anne Derian the truth, and the truth is I never did anything sexual with Todd. When he tells her the truth, and when I hear that from Sandra, I'll forgive him. Until then, the bastard can rot in hell.
>
> As for you Incubus, you obviously have never been through such a horrible betrayal, and you don't know what its like.

Well I have but I don't broadcast it on Usenet.

> You say "if things transpired the way I said they did" . . well why do you "if"? Why do you doubt the story?

It's not that I doubt it; I don't know either way as I wasn't there.

> Todd is the liar and not me, you should be doubting his lying ass.

Holding onto a resentment like this is just causing yourself pain. I imagine Todd isn't giving this situation a second thought.

[Incubus]

On 2018-01-25, theo...@gmail.com <theo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I apologize for being rude to you Incubus, I just get very angry when I think
> about what Todd did so many years ago. Well, I guess it's time to say that I
> forgive you Todd.

Don't worry; I wasn't bothered by it. I understand being angry about things
that happened a long time ago but it just compounded my level of misery.

[theo...@gmail.com]

I posted some things about Todd Hoyt while back. I've decided that these posts are not appropriate, and I've made every effort to delete them. The incident in question is in the distant past, and its forgiven. I can't seem to delete all posts because I guess I used an email address to log in that I no longer have access to. Can anyone help me delete these posts? I did delete all the posts I could under my current email address.

[theo...@gmail.com]

The posts are still up there as of today. Is there a sysop or administrator I can talk to about this issue?

[theo...@gmail.com]

My full name is Theoklis Manthos. I'd like to talk to a sysop or administrator for this page, concerning this Todd Hoyt issue. I ask that the sysop or administrator contact me over instant messenger on Facebook. Here's a link to my Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/theoklis.manthos.92

[theo...@gmail.com]

I think I might have been on my mother's computer in Atlanta when I posted the negative posts about Todd. I guess I could call my mother and ask about it, but I can't even see the full email address on this bulletin board that the posts are posted under . .. it's jenki . . .gmail, and that's all I can see. I'm not sure what to do. I want those posts taken down, please.

[Incubus]

As it is Usenet, there is no single administrator. Articles are propagated to
various news servers and kept for a certain period of time.

The articles will expire soon enough. Google Groups retains copies of all
articles that don't have an X-no-archive header set but it's unlikely anyone
will come across them. It's even more unlikely that he would have any kind of
claim against you.

I wouldn't worry about it.