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Charles Edward Fagan

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Mar 2, 2004, 11:47:06 AM3/2/04
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Is it any wonder that a show about Las Vegas (allegedly) produced by a
bunch of LA rich boys would exude the same annoying arrogance that
the rest of the LA rich boys exude while in Vegas?

If you're from the Midwest, the South, or a cowboy then you get
portrayed as a schmuck. If you use coupons then you're a schmuck. The
Montecito is like casino owner fantasy camp for the writers and
producers. They know they are cooler than the rest of the country and
they show it in their dream world. But unless you fit that little
Mandalay Bay/Hard Rock Pool cabana set, or one of the 6 people who
single-handedly run a world class resort (allegedly) then you get
portrayed as a buffoon.

That said, the imagery is phenomenal and I will watch for that reason.
If I had a Nielson box, I wouldn't. The guy doing photography and
effects also did Lucky. Too bad the substance of the writing doesn't
live up to the glitter. But hey, that is Vegas in a lot of ways.

Blah!

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Mar 2, 2004, 12:47:31 PM3/2/04
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I like how all the security guys were fine suits and stuff. Last I checked,
the guys at Ballys/Paris were wore bright powder blue shirts and the other
resorts weren't much more appealing. I think Mirage's gold jackets are the
least appalling.


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Corey

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Mar 2, 2004, 2:15:37 PM3/2/04
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To: "Blah!" <no-...@sonic.net>
Re: Re: NBC Las Vegas=So Cal Arrogance
By: "Blah!" <no-...@sonic.net> to alt.vacation.las-vegas on Tue Mar 02 2004 05:47 pm

> --- Synchronet 3.11b-Win32 NewsLink 1.73

I remember when the Excalibur first opened security had jesters outfits,
that changed really fast, I wonder why.....

Corey+

"If I rolled my eyes at you, Would you roll them back?"

Trystero4

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Mar 2, 2004, 4:17:28 PM3/2/04
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The show "Las Vegas" is to the city of Las Vegas as what the TV show "CHiPs"
was to law enforcement.


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If you can read this thank a teacher.
If you can read this in english thank a veteran.

Corey

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By: trys...@aol.comSPAMTHIS (Trystero4) to alt.vacation.las-vegas on Tue Mar 02 2004 09:17 pm

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execpt most of Las Vegas is shot inside a sound stage in LA.

Donkeydode

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Mar 2, 2004, 5:39:33 PM3/2/04
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Its too bad this show sucks so bad. I wonder how long Jimmy Caan will stay
aboard. The most annoying thing about this retarded show is the all-knowing
valet/security/computer expert/best friend/MIT grad/life saver/surveillance
guy. That is the stupidest character in the history of tv....

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Kurt Ullman

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Mar 2, 2004, 5:45:09 PM3/2/04
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In article <H281c.9572$Zp.5360@fed1read07>, "Donkeydode"
<beer...@dontspizzy.com> wrote:
>Its too bad this show sucks so bad. I wonder how long Jimmy Caan will stay
>aboard. The most annoying thing about this retarded show is the all-knowing
>valet/security/computer expert/best friend/MIT grad/life saver/surveillance
>guy. That is the stupidest character in the history of tv....
>
Hollywood reporter said that CBS gave the go-ahead for Rob Lowe pilot
called Vegas, MD, about a casino's in-house doc. This has train wreck written
all over it, also.

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Sr.

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Mar 2, 2004, 9:03:33 PM3/2/04
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The show "Las Vegas" is to the city of Las Vegas as what the TV show
"CHiPs"
> was to law enforcement

WHAT'S VEGAS HAVE TO DO WITH CHIMPS??
=SENOUR TR0UT=


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droyus

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Mar 3, 2004, 12:57:23 AM3/3/04
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los...@yahoo.com (Charles Edward Fagan) wrote in message news:<229be7e4.04030...@posting.google.com>...

Since when has Hollywood been worried about accuracy and reality?
And before you say "what about reality shows??", that's the
entertainment industry's overdramatized, partially scripted, trumped
up version of "reality". COPS is probably the only exception. But I
digress. TV shows like Las Vegas are about fantasy. The real Las
Vegas is, for most tourists, about escaping from real life and
indulging in fantasy (and buffets) for a while. After catching
hundreds of movies in glaring editing & continuity errors, such as the
plane crash scene on the strip in Con Air, I've long since given up
thinking anyone in Hollywood doesn't have his head up his ass.
They've portrayed the Montecito being on south strip and center strip
in different shots. They clearly don't have geniuses working for
them.
What Las Vegas (the TV show) is really about is this: The Las
Vegas that gets conjured up in the minds of so many people who haven't
been there. It's good fantasy fodder for people who've never gone and
probably never well, or for younger people coming of age who go to
sleep with visions of casinos and nightclubs dancing in their heads.
The rest of us who've been there know what it's REALLY like...plain
folks that look, well...plain, and downright ugly in a lot of cases!
These very people are everywhere, dressed in the most comfortable and
shabby street clothes they can find. If you wanna find crowds of
swankily dressed beautiful people just like ya see all over the
freakin' place on Las Vegas NBC, it's not hard to find if you know
where to go...but that scene is largely confined to the "in"
nightclubs and hip restaurants.
Don't worry about Las Vegas NBC having its nose stuck up in the
air a little bit! Lots of us miss Vegas and it gives us something fun
to transfix on, even if we know it's largely bullshit. It's fun to
pretend Vegas is really like that...gives us another reason to get
fired up about going back. And that brings me to my final point: If
it wasn't for those rich whales, and Californians with dispensable
income in general (who supply the bulk of Vegas tourism), The Strip
would become Earth's largest ghost town real quick.

DocTCW

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Mar 3, 2004, 3:05:25 PM3/3/04
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dro...@my-deja.com (droyus) wrote in message

But you even missed the main message I took from the original poster,
and it is something I hadn't noticed until he pointed it out. The show
DOES depict everyone NOT from Vegas as foolish bumpkin-hicks, with a
special emphasis on cowboy types and Southerners. This is offensive,
and has to represent a bias on the writers, who have proven themselves
to be incompetent anyway. That being said, I never miss an episode, do
you?

Tom

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ase

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Mar 3, 2004, 6:06:19 PM3/3/04
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You mean all casino employees do look like nikki cox.


Joe Marley

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Mar 3, 2004, 8:49:17 PM3/3/04
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I'll go out on a limb and say I like the series on the whole. It's gone
down hill since the pilot but it's still a Vegas fix, and I'd rather
look at Nicki Cox and Molly Simms in a Mandelayesque setting for an hour
than watch a show set in the Circus Circus manor complex.

Evil Elvis

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Mar 4, 2004, 2:52:18 AM3/4/04
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los...@yahoo.com (Charles Edward Fagan) wrote in message news:<229be7e4.04030...@posting.google.com>...

> Is it any wonder that a show about Las Vegas (allegedly) produced by a


> bunch of LA rich boys would exude the same annoying arrogance that
> the rest of the LA rich boys exude while in Vegas?

Why are you surprised by this? There are tons of egos in L.A. and
they make their way to Vegas every weekend. MOST of the "LA rich
boys" are just 20-something wannabee actors, most of which are
unskilled, untalented and just plain flat broke.

> If you're from the Midwest, the South, or a cowboy then you get
> portrayed as a schmuck. If you use coupons then you're a schmuck. The
> Montecito is like casino owner fantasy camp for the writers and
> producers. They know they are cooler than the rest of the country and
> they show it in their dream world. But unless you fit that little
> Mandalay Bay/Hard Rock Pool cabana set, or one of the 6 people who
> single-handedly run a world class resort (allegedly) then you get
> portrayed as a buffoon.

That's pretty much how Vegas is.

> That said, the imagery is phenomenal and I will watch for that reason.
> If I had a Nielson box, I wouldn't. The guy doing photography and
> effects also did Lucky. Too bad the substance of the writing doesn't
> live up to the glitter. But hey, that is Vegas in a lot of ways.

I think it's a pretty fun show to watch, when I am watchin tv,
which is rare these days. It's much better than watching those stupid
"reality" tv shows that pollute the airways.


--EE--

Charles Edward Fagan

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Mar 4, 2004, 5:22:29 AM3/4/04
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Like I said, it is a lot like Vegas. Sometimes it disappoints, some
times it kicks the crap out of you. You go home swearing never to
return, but a month later, your dreaming about your next trip back.
There are a lot more painful ways to spend time on Monday night. It
does give you that fix and beats the Hell out of watching Vegas
Cheaters Beware or The Pro's Guide to Las Vegas over and over again on
the Travel Channel. Of course, I've found myself in a bean bag chair
with a bag of Cheetohs at 2 am doing that as well. Yeah, Nikki Cox and
Molly Sims or Anthony Curtis and Bob Dancer? I guess I can live with
it.


*****Bring back "Lucky"*******

Kurt Ullman

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Mar 4, 2004, 8:54:03 AM3/4/04
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In article <229be7e4.04030...@posting.google.com>,
los...@yahoo.com (Charles Edward Fagan) wrote:

>There are a lot more painful ways to spend time on Monday night.

They are certainly going to try to prove that this Monday when LV is
pre-empted for a Charlies Angels "tell all".


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and added Microsoft to the list.
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DocTCW

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Mar 4, 2004, 11:16:12 AM3/4/04
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los...@yahoo.com (Charles Edward Fagan) wrote in message news:<229be7e4.04030...@posting.google.com>...

Man, I know what you mean! I couldn't have said it better!

Tom

Bill Funk

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Mar 4, 2004, 11:41:45 AM3/4/04
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On 4 Mar 2004 02:22:29 -0800, los...@yahoo.com (Charles Edward Fagan)
wrote:

> Of course, I've found myself in a bean bag chair
>with a bag of Cheetohs at 2 am doing that as well.

Naked?
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replace "g" with "a"

Charles Edward Fagan

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Mar 4, 2004, 12:23:12 PM3/4/04
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JEMA...@webtv.net (Joe Marley) wrote in message news:<7078-404...@storefull-3316.bay.webtv.net>... I'd rather

> look at Nicki Cox and Molly Simms in a Mandelayesque setting for an hour
> than watch a show set in the Circus Circus manor complex.


How about those two in a Westward Ho apartment? I bet that would sell!

MikeW

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Mar 4, 2004, 12:24:00 PM3/4/04
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They should probably be in plate armor, and carrying swords.

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MikeW

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Mar 4, 2004, 12:25:55 PM3/4/04
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Does that have 'Love Boat' written all over it?! I'm gettin visions
of Bernie Koeppel :o)

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Blah!

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Mar 5, 2004, 2:36:51 PM3/5/04
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"Charles Edward Fagan" <los...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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As long as they're not trying to act.


Charles Edward Fagan

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> los...@yahoo.com (Charles Edward Fagan) wrote in message news:<229be7e4.04030...@posting.google.com>...
>
This reminded me of a story a casino vet/author/frequent travel
channel contributor told me during my last trip.

Mel Gibson's "people" flew up from LA to consult with the guy on their
big concept for a Vegas film. Gibson's lounge band at Caesars would
be a ring of thieves who during their break would lift a sack of 1
million dollar chips from the World Poker Tour championship. A police
chase would ensue and land crooks and cop cars in the Bellagio
Fountains.

My buddy said he was really nice breaking the news to these guys that
A)there are no 1 million dollar chips and B)you'd have a helluva time
cashing them in due to a number of obvious and not so obvious factors.

Good thing Mel found the Lord or we would all be lamenting this
cinematic triumph instead.

He said people come up with all kinds of crap to run by him. He said
he gets a lot of nice meals in high dollar places thanks to the LA
producers.

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