RANK | CITY | TEAMS | # TEAMS | POP/# TEAMS | 2000 POP | 2005 WINS |
1 | New York | Yankees | 2 | 10,098,325 | 20,196,649 | 95 |
2 | New York | Mets | 2 | 10,098,325 | 20,196,649 | 83 |
3 | Las Angeles | Angels | 2 | 8,018,294 | 16,036,587 | 95 |
4 | Las Angeles | Dodgers | 2 | 8,018,294 | 16,036,587 | 71 |
5 | Philadelphia | Phillies | 1 | 5,999,034 | 5,999,034 | 88 |
6 | Boston | Red Sox | 1 | 5,667,225 | 5,667,225 | 95 |
7 | Detroit | Tigers | 1 | 5,469,312 | 5,469,312 | 71 |
8 | Dallas/Fort Worth | Rangers | 1 | 4,909,523 | 4,909,523 | 79 |
9 | Washington | Nationals | 1 | 4,739,999 | 4,739,999 | 81 |
10 | Toronto | Blue Jays | 1 | 4,558,800 | 4,558,800 | 80 |
11 | Houston | Astros | 1 | 4,493,741 | 4,493,741 | 89 |
12 | Chicago | White Sox | 2 | 4,442,960 | 8,885,919 | 99 |
13 | Chicago | Cubs | 2 | 4,442,960 | 8,885,919 | 79 |
14 | Atlanta | Braves | 1 | 3,857,097 | 3,857,097 | 90 |
15 | Miami | Marlins | 1 | 3,711,102 | 3,711,102 | 83 |
16 | Seattle | Mariners | 1 | 3,465,760 | 3,465,760 | 69 |
17 | Oakland | A's | 2 | 3,436,823 | 6,873,645 | 88 |
18 | San Francisco | Giants | 2 | 3,436,823 | 6,873,645 | 75 |
19 | Phoenix | Diamond Backs | 1 | 3,013,696 | 3,013,696 | 77 |
20 | Cleveland | Indians | 1 | 2,910,616 | 2,910,616 | 93 |
21 | Minneapolis/St Paul | Twins | 1 | 2,872,109 | 2,872,109 | 83 |
22 | San Diego | Padres | 1 | 2,820,844 | 2,820,844 | 82 |
23 | St Louis | Cardinals | 1 | 2,569,029 | 2,569,029 | 100 |
24 | Baltimore | Orioles | 1 | 2,491,254 | 2,491,254 | 74 |
25 | Denver | Rockies | 1 | 2,417,908 | 2,417,908 | 67 |
26 | Pittsburgh | Pirates | 1 | 2,331,336 | 2,331,336 | 67 |
27 | Tampa Bey | Devil Rays | 1 | 2,278,169 | 2,278,169 | 67 |
28 | Portland | No Team | 0 | 2,180,996 | 2,180,996 | No Team |
29 | Cincinatti | Reds | 1 | 1,960,995 | 1,960,995 | 73 |
30 | Motreal | No Team | 0 | 1,851,746 | 1,851,746 | No Team |
31 | Kansas City | Royals | 1 | 1,755,899 | 1,755,899 | 56 |
32 | Sacramento | No Team | 0 | 1,741,002 | 1,741,002 | No Team |
33 | Milwaukee | Brewers | 1 | 1,648,199 | 1,648,199 | 81 |
34 | San Antonio | No Team | 0 | 1,564,949 | 1,564,949 | No Team |
35 | Indianapolis | No Team | 0 | 1,536,665 | 1,536,665 | No Team |
36 | Orlando | No Team | 0 | 1,535,004 | 1,535,004 | No Team |
37 | Columbus | No Team | 0 | 1,489,487 | 1,489,487 | No Team |
38 | Charlotte | No Team | 0 | 1,417,217 | 1,417,217 | No Team |
39 | Las Vegas | No Team | 0 | 1,381,086 | 1,381,086 | No Team |
40 | New Orleans | No Team | 0 | 1,305,479 | 1,305,479 | No Team |
41 | Salt Lake City | No Team | 0 | 1,275,076 | 1,275,076 | No Team |
42 | Winston-Salem | No Team | 0 | 1,179,384 | 1,179,384 | No Team |
43 | Nashville | No Team | 0 | 1,171,755 | 1,171,755 | No Team |
44 | Hartford | No Team | 0 | 1,147,504 | 1,147,504 | No Team |
45 | Austin, Tx | No Team | 0 | 1,146,050 | 1,146,050 | No Team |
46 | Raleigh-Durham | No Team | 0 | 1,105,535 | 1,105,535 | No Team |
47 | Memphis | No Team | 0 | 1,105,058 | 1,105,058 | No Team |
48 | Rochester, NY | No Team | 0 | 1,079,073 | 1,079,073 | No Team |
49 | Jacksonville | No Team | 0 | 1,056,332 | 1,056,332 | No Team |
50 | Grand Rapids | No Team | 0 | 1,052,092 | 1,052,092 | No Team |
51 | West Palm Beach | No Team | 0 | 1,049,420 | 1,049,420 | No Team |
52 | Oklahoma City | No Team | 0 | 1,046,283 | 1,046,283 | No Team |
53 | Louisville | No Team | 0 | 1,005,849 | 1,005,849 | No Team |
RANK | Designated Market Area (DMA) | TV Homes | % of US |
1 | New York | 7,375,530 | 6.692 |
2 | Los Angeles | 5,536,430 | 5.023 |
3 | Chicago | 3,430,790 | 3.113 |
4 | Philadelphia | 2,925,560 | 2.654 |
5 | Boston (Manchester) | 2,375,310 | 2.155 |
6 | San Francisco-Oak-San Jose | 2,355,740 | 2.137 |
7 | Dallas-Ft. Worth | 2,336,140 | 2.120 |
8 | Washington, DC (Hagrstwn) | 2,252,550 | 2.044 |
9 | Atlanta | 2,097,220 | 1.903 |
10 | Houston | 1,938,670 | 1.759 |
11 | Detroit | 1,936,350 | 1.757 |
12 | Tampa-St. Pete (Sarasota) | 1,710,400 | 1.552 |
13 | Seattle-Tacoma | 1,701,950 | 1.544 |
14 | Phoenix (Prescott) | 1,660,430 | 1.507 |
15 | Minneapolis-St. Paul | 1,652,940 | 1.500 |
16 | Cleveland-Akron (Canton) | 1,541,780 | 1.399 |
17 | Miami-Ft. Lauderdale | 1,522,960 | 1.382 |
18 | Denver | 1,415,180 | 1.284 |
19 | Sacramnto-Stkton-Modesto | 1,345,820 | 1.221 |
20 | Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn | 1,345,700 | 1.221 |
21 | St. Louis | 1,222,380 | 1.109 |
22 | Pittsburgh | 1,169,800 | 1.061 |
23 | Portland, OR | 1,099,890 | 0.998 |
24 | Baltimore | 1,089,220 | 0.988 |
25 | Indianapolis | 1,053,750 | 0.956 |
26 | San Diego | 1,026,160 | 0.931 |
27 | Charlotte | 1,020,130 | 0.926 |
28 | Hartford & New Haven | 1,013,350 | 0.919 |
29 | Raleigh-Durham (Fayetvlle) | 985,200 | 0.894 |
30 | Nashville | 927,500 | 0.842 |
31 | Kansas City | 903,540 | 0.820 |
32 | Columbus, OH | 890,770 | 0.808 |
33 | Milwaukee | 880,390 | 0.799 |
34 | Cincinnati | 880,190 | 0.799 |
35 | Greenvll-Spart-Ashevll-And | 815,460 | 0.740 |
36 | Salt Lake City | 810,830 | 0.736 |
37 | San Antonio | 760,410 | 0.690 |
38 | West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce | 751,930 | 0.682 |
39 | Grand Rapids-Kalmzoo-B.Crk | 731,630 | 0.664 |
40 | Birmingham (Ann, Tusc) | 716,520 | 0.650 |
41 | Harrisburg-Lncstr-Leb-York | 707,010 | 0.641 |
42 | Norfolk-Portsmth-Newpt Nws | 704,810 | 0.640 |
43 | New Orleans | 672,150 | 0.610 |
44 | Memphis | 657,670 | 0.597 |
45 | Oklahoma City | 655,400 | 0.595 |
46 | Albuquerque-Santa Fe | 653,680 | 0.593 |
47 | Greensboro-H.Point-W.Salem | 652,020 | 0.592 |
48 | Las Vegas | 651,110 | 0.591 |
49 | Buffalo | 644,430 | 0.585 |
50 | Louisville |
"flip" <never_send_spam@or_to_me.com> wrote in message news:aXIJf.8371$CV....@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
Hey gang, with pitchers and catchers reporting to spring training, I thought I
At least players wouldn't die of heat stroke playing here in Vancouver
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Please also note that both Cincinnati and Milwaukee, well down on the list,
have major league teams.
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"Scott" <a8d...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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The Red Sox are an example of a team for whom such market size/population correlations really don't work. They are regarded as "New England's Team," widely and deeply popular with residents throughout most of a six-state region (excluding pockets of Yankee Country in CT). Their radio and TV network is designed to blanket that region, and fans find it no great inconvenience to travel to Boston for games.In the long run, the problem with Las Vegas is not the association with legalized gambling. Rather, it is (a) the fact that there are too many other entertainment distractions to build a strong base of team loyalty and support, and (2) the vast majority of people living here came from somewhere else.--David/NV
David,Is that a problem in the NHL? That said I agree with your first point, but one advantage that Vegas has over other cities on the list is MONEY. New Orleans suffers due to the lack of Fortune 500 cities with HQs in the city/region. Care to guess what they only Fortune 500 company left in Louisiana?Personally, I think gambling is what will keep MLB and the NFL out of Vegas.
David Berman wrote:
> The Red Sox are an example of a team for whom such market
> size/population correlations really don't work. They are regarded as
> "New England's Team," widely and deeply popular with residents
> throughout most of a six-state region (excluding pockets of Yankee
> Country in CT). Their radio and TV network is designed to blanket that
> region, and fans find it no great inconvenience to travel to Boston
> for games.
>
> In the long run, the problem with Las Vegas is not the association
> with legalized gambling. Rather, it is (a) the fact that there are too
> many other entertainment distractions to build a strong base of team
> loyalty and support, and (2) the vast majority of people living here
> came from somewhere else.
>
> --David/NV
>
> "flip" <never_send_spam@or_to_me.com
> <mailto:never_send_spam@or_to_me.com>> wrote in message
Wow, how about that. Two places with SIGNIFICANTLY more population than
Vegas. Both also have even larger populations within a 2hr drive. I
think a fairer "Does a team qualify" would be population within 30 miles +
1/2 population within 200 km, in which case Vegas does very poorly as it's
near nothing (Wow let's count Boulder City!)
Am I missing something vital to Vegas' bid for baseball?
And again my comment stands, Vancouver stands a better chance of getting
MLB than Vegas.
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