10 worst things about livin' in Vegas!
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JRogow
> According to Vegas Rex:
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> http://www.casinotop10.net/10-worst-things-about-living-in-las-vegas-1.shtml
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I'm looking forward to 2 - 10.
Marsha
"Double Down Now!" <double....@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> According to Vegas Rex:
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> http://www.casinotop10.net/10-worst-things-about-living-in-las-vegas-1.shtml
I read all five parts... classic Rex and he does have his points. But I
think anyone who reads it without having been exposed to his point of view
in the past isn't doing it, him, or themselves justice.
tom ronson
> According to Vegas Rex:
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> http://www.casinotop10.net/10-worst-things-about-living-in-las-vegas-1.shtml
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you see that Vegas Rex isn't Vegas Rex anymore? think he's Seattle Rex now.
His bit on the cops (neon police) is very, very good.... nails it.
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Borked Psuedo Mailed
> According to Vegas Rex:
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> http://www.casinotop10.net/10-worst-things-about-living-in-las-vegas-1.shtml
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Ted Newkirk makes an appearance.
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Ted Newkirk
2010-08-09
Given that Anthony Curtis is preoccupied with fighting and R-J suit, let
me be the member of the extremely low IQ "I love Vegas, Click Here to
Buy A Room" fraternity to give a retort:
BTW, none of us in the commercial promotion of tourism field hate you
(that I know of, anyway). We certainly are amused by you.
I personally am appreciative if you can even get one person to move
away, and keep anybody else from moving here. This town was a great
place at a million people. Let's get it back down there.
I'll tackle the points by number:
1) You are extremely inaccurate in promoting the "Las Vegas doesn't have
what it takes to sustain life" myth. Ever heard of the Springs Preserve?
Farming took place here in the early 1900's, natural springs existed,
and groundwater supported the city throughout much of the 1900's.
If you had gone past Moapa and visited Overton and the Virgin River
Valley (you should have taken your kids to the Clark County Fair while
you lived here), you'd would have seen rural farming an hour from town.
Hell, Pahrump has vineyards if you go an hour the other way!
The desert here can support plant life just like it does around El
Centro, CA. You just need water. Which brings me to the other myth...
Just as many cities draw water from rivers in close proximity, we draw
ours from a river in close proximity. If most of the Colorado River was
not shipped hundreds of miles to California (the crops around El Centro
are irrigated with Colorado River water), we'd be awash in locally drawn
water. So it is OK for El Centro to use CR water to grow crops, but not
we who live a stones throw from the CR?
I am 20 miles from the Colorado River. I grew up about 15 miles from the
Willamette River in Oregon. So... it was OK for me to use water in
proximity to me in Oregon, but not here in Nevada?
I've never had nosebleeds, dry eyes (even when wearing contacts and
being around plenty of smoke), dry skin, and a general discomfort from
the climate. I drink plenty of distilled water and stay hydrated from
the inside out.
2) Talk to Doug Elfman about how easy it is to become a teacher here.
His eminently qualified father couldn't get a teaching gig in Clark County.
Those who come with the "get rich quick" mentality are filtered back out
of town. Remember... at the point where 5000 people were moving here
monthly, 2000 people a month were leaving.
The most successful people I know here long-term are people who have
been here 10+ years. Takes time to build a real network of friends and
business partners.
3) You can get a job if you are good and you hustle. I know a couple who
moved here 4 months ago from Tampa and both have full-time good jobs.
Problem is the lack of good workers who work hard and hustle (so on
that, you'll get no argument from me). My doctor needs a front desk
person and is actually having trouble finding a good candidate. But in
general, I agree. No employment here. Stay away.
4) Generally no argument there. I'm self-insured and can doctor shop on
price and quality. I'd hate to be just another patient at a cattle-call
doctor.
5) I didn't vote for Gillespie. The department has real issues right
now. However, I've never had less than professional dealings with the
law. Some of Rex's run-in's seem to stretch the imagination a bit.
6) Why do all you east coast people come here and expect us to have
public transit? Most of the west is an automobile-driven society. We
love our cars. If you want good mass transit, move to a city with good
mass transit. I love the sunshine. I wouldn't move back to PDX and
complain about lack of sun. PDX has limited sunshine. LAS has limited
mass transit.
7) I have no kids. I'll let the rest of you fight that battle. No
question those who can afford to here send their kids to private schools.
8) No argument. 2005 was a good year to sell a house, not to buy.
However, if you plan on living here and have a steady income that isn't
in jeopardy, good time to buy. I'm looking around.
9) You live in Rexville and spend your time walking between Rexville and
The Strip... and you are shocked at the crime? Just pick your
neighborhood better. I live in a vintage middle-class neighborhood just
a few minutes from the North Strip and Downtown and the police blotter
has shown one crime situation in 16 month. Nice, quiet, safe area.
If you choose to live in some areas closer to downtown, you need a
garage to house your car and a good home alarm company. Thieves will
pick easier targets. 17 years here and the only crime I was a victim of
was getting my wallet lifted during New Years Eve (foolish me, forgot to
bury it deep in front pocket). Which is pretty damn good considering
that I've walked from The Plaza to The Western ($1 blackjack) after
midnight more times than I can count. Long before they cleaned up
Fremont East.
10) No argument there. I'm all for an Arizona-type law here. It would
help pare down the population and ease unemployment.
Moral Of The Story:
Those who move to Las Vegas specifically for what it offers and come in
with their eyes wide open enjoy it and tend to do OK. You are going to
be driving a car, you are going to deal with very hot temps, and
abundant sunshine. You'll have relatively low taxes and regulation and
will go without some of the government services that higher-taxed cities
offer.
We have very few bike lanes and we don't care. Etc. This is not the east
coast, regardless of how many east coast residents have moved here. It
never will be. You guys from the east are a fish out of water here.
Rex is one of hundreds of thousands (over the past couple of decades)
who thought that he could bend Las Vegas to his whims and wishes. When
you try to bend Las Vegas, it snaps back with extreme velocity, kicks
you in the ass, and kicks your ass out of town.
To those thinking of moving here: Move here because you want to be a sun
baked, car-driving, fun-loving Las Vegan. If that's not you, you'll
simply be the next Rex.
Kudos to Rex on finally picking a place to live based on researching
what is important to him. Rex, hope you got over to Ocean Shores, WA on
your Aberdeen visit. Beautiful this time of year.
Double Down Now!
wrote:
> According to Vegas Rex:
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> http://www.casinotop10.net/10-worst-things-about-living-in-las-vegas-...
Personally, what really scares me 'bout Vegas are the drivers:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/aug/08/man-accidentally-drives-truck-gas-station/
jerry the jerk
> According to Vegas Rex:
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> http://www.casinotop10.net/10-worst-things-about-living-in-las-vegas-1.shtml
So far, I like the weather and the prospects of no ice and snow this
coming winter.
The one thing I do not like is the traffic. Coming from Wooocester, with
175,000 people I find the traffic a bit aggrevating. Not used to heavy
traffic everytime I go someplace.
Heavy traffic as compared to wooocester.
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Walt
It's all there in 5 parts -- see links at end of each part.
Some of the comments are interesting, too.
dr. Baf
wrote:
> To those thinking of moving here: Move here because you want to be a sun
> baked, car-driving, fun-loving Las Vegan. If that's not you, you'll
> simply be the next Rex.
>
Well put Borked, on all points. Unfortunately there are few
people who could respond as well as you did and it gives
away your real identity.
dr. Baf
Chef Kurt
> Well put Borked, on all points. Unfortunately there are few
> people who could respond as well as you did and it gives
> away your real identity.
Hehe..I was thinking the same thing. Who are you thinking of?
Kurt
JRogow
Yes, I noticed that a few seconds after sending the post.
I disagree with most of what he said, but a few comments hit home.
Of course, it has been many years since I lived there, and things do
change, but I think his outlook is warped.
Joe J
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Having lived there and moved back out, I can't disagree with too much except
#5 & 6. No experience there.
Did kinda forget about mosquitoes. Came back to WI and we have had record
rainfalls this entire summer. Mosquitoes are the worst I can remember in 50
years. Still glad to be out of LV, yet looking forward to a Vegas vacation
in October. Small doses several times a year is our ticket.
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sick of it.......it's special because you only get to go there on
special occasions.
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On Aug 10, 7:56 am, "Double Down Now!" <double.down....@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> According to Vegas Rex:
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JKConey
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Cancel my house buying....
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Pinstripe Sniper
we've had just under or over 100 degree days and many of us actually
think that was quite comfortable. I do.
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> I haven't read the list but I will say in the past couple of weeks
> we've had just under or over 100 degree days and many of us actually
> think that was quite comfortable. I do.
>
> PsS
We've lived in Henderson since 2001. When I read the list, I felt it was
nothing more than a hatchet job on our town. The bad points we all
recognize were exaggerated and virtually none of the positive aspects were
mentioned or if they were mentioned, they were minimized.
What we have here is a new city, constructed around a core mixing tourism,
old and new. The further you are from that core, the newer everything is
and the better it is.
My impression is that the author lived or spent much of his existence here
in that core- particularly the downtown area. That would explain his
diatribe on crime and the people he encountered. As you venture outward, to
Summerlin, Henderson, the Sun Cities and similar developments, you encounter
planned communities with rational development transitioning between single
family residential, duplex, multifamily, light commercial and primary
commercial. The streets are paved and solid, infrastructure like
functioning cable and telephone, reliable electric and water and sewer are
in place and working. You don't find that in older cities anywhere. Sure,
the homes have a sameness that can be boring, but then they also reflect the
reality of living in the desert with high temperatures and lots of sunshine.
Concrete roofs and stucco siding are a necessity and not just a concession.
Our housing density is a compromise between downtown urban and spacious
suburbs. Anyone who grew up in a highrise apartment house in a city would
appreciate any back yard or parking space at all. Anyone growing up in a
farming community would feel cramped by small set-backs, tiny garages and
small yards. It's a middle ground here.
The newspaper publishes a weekly crime map showing burglaries, drugs,
assaults etc. that were on the police blotter. I defy anyone to find a city
with a suburban area like ours to show a significant improvement over LV and
Henderson. The part about the police being out of control was ridiculous.
While generously overpaid, like our firemen, our police are professional.
Mistakes can happen, but if you're a law-abiding citizen who doesn't have an
"attitude," they're like any other city. I've never been stopped,
questioned, frisked or even had a ticket. Our police are like the police in
any other city. If you go downtown or on the Strip, get drunk, mouth off,
act stupid or do a crime, they'll take care of matters promptly and
professionally, though.
Nonny
Marsha
"Nonnymus" <nob...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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You haven't been following Rex over the last several years, have you?
He made it abundantly clear that his purpose in living here was to be near
the Strip. He wanted, and got, an urban environment and in the long run,
that didn't work out so well for him.
He put down the houses in the more removed areas, put down cars and car
ownership. He wanted to be where he was, and he got what he got.
The thing is... he said he'd been to AC, he lived closer to it, in theory
knew more about it. Once you get away from the casinos, you don't want to
get out of your car until you're FAR away. Why would he expect it to be that
different here?
Why would he move his CHILDREN somewhere without checking out the safety of
the community, schools, and health care for them? Did those things not
become important until it was HIS health that was of concern?
I have been stopped by police in a various places where I've lived. The
results have always been the same, we're mutually polite and I leave
unscathed. No difference between here and NJ.
I grew up in NYC. I was still in my teens the first time someone tried
groping me on the subway. Regardless, I missed having any sort of public
transportation when we moved to MS. The funny thing was that once we'd moved
to where there was "some", I didn't use it.
There ARE things which could come as something of a surprise... Dust, wind,
monsoons. The wear and tear the heat and low humidity take on something like
a car.
If I hadn't bought here, the Pacific Northwest was where I was going to look
next. Right now I don't know how I'd feel about the "loss" of sunny days
though, so I might follow his blog just to see how it turns out for them.
Paul_E_Wog
> We've lived in Henderson since 2001. When I read the list, I felt it was
> nothing more than a hatchet job on our town. The bad points we all
> recognize were exaggerated and virtually none of the positive aspects
> were mentioned or if they were mentioned, they were minimized.
He did the positive aspects in a post prior to the bad ones:
http://www.casinotop10.net/10-best-things-about-living-in-las-vegas.shtml
jerry the jerk
I couldn't agree with you more nonny.
The people who post anti-police remarks, are either engaged in some
activity contrary to the law or are so liberal that they feel people
should be allowed to do anything they like.
There are a few bad apples in any police force; of any city in the U.S.
That doesn't tarnish the entire police force by any means.
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Chef Kurt
> I couldn't agree with you more nonny.
> The people who post anti-police remarks, are either engaged in some
> activity contrary to the law or are so liberal that they feel people
> should be allowed to do anything they like.
It's just one extreme or the other for you, isn't it?
> There are a few bad apples in any police force; of any city in the U.S.
> That doesn't tarnish the entire police force by any means.
Really?
Kurt
octoad
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> Double Down Now! wrote:
>> According to Vegas Rex:
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>> http://www.casinotop10.net/10-worst-things-about-living-in-las-vegas-1.shtml
>>
>
> you see that Vegas Rex isn't Vegas Rex anymore? think he's Seattle Rex
> now.
>
> His bit on the cops (neon police) is very, very good.... nails it.
Is this the guy that moved to some shithole on Koval or somewhere right by
the Strip a few years back? Claiming it was gonna be great and wondrous and
downright magical? Screw all the yuppies, he wanted to be with the real
people? Gambling and drinking and a life of general degeneracy was gonna be
really cool? That Vegas was heaven on earth?
If so, I warned him he would come to these exact same conclusions way back
then. For his sake I'm glad he finally wised up.
O
O
octoad
> My impression is that the author lived or spent much of his existence here
> in that core- particularly the downtown area. That would explain his
> diatribe on crime and the people he encountered.
The people I encountered in superficial faux Tuscanville were shallow, rude,
and stupid.
> As you venture outward, to Summerlin, Henderson, the Sun Cities and
> similar developments, you encounter planned communities with rational
> development transitioning between single family residential, duplex,
> multifamily, light commercial and primary commercial.
As in: no independent local businesses of any kind, square grids featuring
big box power centers every few blocks, with the usual smattering of Central
American nail salons and the ubiquitous poker bars, all enclosing nearly
identical collections of tile roofed stucco houses, of which most are in
foreclosure.
> The streets are paved and solid, infrastructure like functioning cable and
> telephone, reliable electric and water and sewer are in place and working.
Boy, that's really unusual!
> You don't find that in older cities anywhere.
I've found paved streets, cable TV and telephone service, and reliable
electric, water, and sewer in every single place I've ever lived in my
entire life, from large urban area to sprawling suburb to rural backwater.
> Sure, the homes have a sameness that can be boring, but then they also
> reflect the reality of living in the desert with high temperatures and
> lots of sunshine. Concrete roofs and stucco siding are a necessity and not
> just a concession.
Yes, the heat makes any sort of architectural deviation impossible. Just as
cold weather makes every house look exactly the same back east.
> Our housing density is a compromise between downtown urban and spacious
> suburbs. Anyone who grew up in a highrise apartment house in a city would
> appreciate any back yard or parking space at all. Anyone growing up in a
> farming community would feel cramped by small set-backs, tiny garages and
> small yards. It's a middle ground here.
And anyone from an actually nice suburban area, from California to the
midwest to the south to the east coast, would find Vegas suburbs cheap,
tacky, without any character whatsoever, and now, mostly vacant.
> The newspaper publishes a weekly crime map showing burglaries, drugs,
> assaults etc. that were on the police blotter. I defy anyone to find a
> city with a suburban area like ours to show a significant improvement over
> LV and Henderson. The part about the police being out of control was
> ridiculous. While generously overpaid, like our firemen, our police are
> professional. Mistakes can happen, but if you're a law-abiding citizen who
> doesn't have an "attitude," they're like any other city. I've never been
> stopped, questioned, frisked or even had a ticket. Our police are like
> the police in any other city. If you go downtown or on the Strip, get
> drunk, mouth off, act stupid or do a crime, they'll take care of matters
> promptly and professionally, though.
I live in a CA north bay area city of 150,000, in a county composed of
suburbs, small towns, and rural areas. People here would be astonished,
aghast, frightened, and horrified at the crime perpetrated by both the
sleazy Vegas denizens and their crooked police force.
O
G-Lock
our "fine" Metro and Henderson deathsquad, er cops. Beware if you are
an elderly woman selling ice cream in Henderson of Pecos Ridge and
Sunridge Heights or you might get shot dead. All you older guys need
to realize this isn't the good old day the cops out here ARE trigger
happy mouth breathers (in large part). I saw a guy fall off his bike
in the Pebble and Pecos area last month and he was pretty banged up.
We pulled over to see if he was ok. A cop pulled up and began accusing
the man of being on drugs and the sort even when it became clear he
was dazed from the fall.No sympathy, no call for help, just
accusations and a dickhead demeanor. This is just a recent example of
these idiots in action. So "Jerry" if and when you ever have a run in
with these clowns expect to be accused,patronized, and given a warning
regardless of if you did anything wrong, oh and don't take your hands
off the wheel unless you want to get your brains splattered all over
the windshield
tom ronson
> The people I encountered in superficial faux Tuscanville were shallow, rude,
> and stupid.
you forgot old and bitter.
> I've found paved streets, cable TV and telephone service, and reliable
> electric, water, and sewer in every single place I've ever lived in my
> entire life, from large urban area to sprawling suburb to rural backwater.
same here. I didn't know there was such magic in the list above. I guess
some folks are more easily impressed than others.
tom ronson
> Keep drinking that Kool-Aid champ. You obviously haven't dealt with
> our "fine" Metro and Henderson deathsquad, er cops.
obviously. I've seen these clowns escalate a next to nothing to 3 cars
and guns drawn in less than 2 minutes.
> Beware if you are
> an elderly woman selling ice cream in Henderson of Pecos Ridge and
> Sunridge Heights or you might get shot dead.
or the car chase where the watch commander told them to end pursuit and
they kept going until someone was dead?
or the drug raid on a warrant based on lies that ends with a guy shot in
the face with a riffle for a "furtive movement"? (like the cop knows
what furtive means)
or shopping at Costco. video missing, won't play 911 call, and shooting
in a crowd of people?
but hey --- if all I had to do is get around an "inquest" I probably
wouldn't care either.
> realize this isn't the good old day the cops out here ARE trigger
> happy mouth breathers (in large part).
funny --- I've got two Metro cops for neighbors and several as friends
and that's about how they describe their work mates. "Ring the bell and
watch them go" is how one of them describes the Pavlovian reactions some
of these morons operate under.
> So "Jerry" if and when you ever have a run in
> with these clowns expect to be accused,patronized, and given a warning
> regardless of if you did anything wrong, oh and don't take your hands
> off the wheel unless you want to get your brains splattered all over
> the windshield
wish you hadn't told him --- it would of been a great way to thin the herd.
tom ronson
> Is this the guy that moved to some shithole on Koval or somewhere right by
> the Strip a few years back? Claiming it was gonna be great and wondrous and
> downright magical?
that's him.
> If so, I warned him he would come to these exact same conclusions way back
> then. For his sake I'm glad he finally wised up.
sometimes you've got to put your hand on the stove a few times to really
get it.
Marsha
I actually DID live somewhere that housing was being built faster than
telephone service was made available. I used to take their calls... they
were NOT pleased when we had to say that we didn't expect to be able to hook
them up until the following year.
This is the first place I've lived, as an adult, that the power didn't go
out for some reason or other mostly related to it's being above ground and
here it's below in most areas.
Also, my letter carrier here told me that he doesn't have cable service
where he lives in the south west.
tom ronson
> This is the first place I've lived, as an adult, that the power didn't go
> out for some reason or other mostly related to it's being above ground and
> here it's below in most areas.
last 3 places I've lived, spanning probably 20 or so years I haven't had
issues --- even in a minor hurricane, in FL.
> Also, my letter carrier here told me that he doesn't have cable service
> where he lives in the south west.
he must be pretty far out then ---- there's not many places that don't
have cable here. there are a few --- but I very seldom run into that in
my journeys.
jerry the jerk
nice to know that the morons from metro are living in the same
neighborhood as the moron from avlv.
BAWAHAHAHAHAHA
I haven't had a run in with a cop since 1968 and that wouldn't have
happened if the cop didn't have a bigger engine than me.
Henderson cops or metro...no big deal. not worth breaking into a sweat
over.
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