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Jim and Kris Dockter

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Nov 27, 2001, 7:39:02 PM11/27/01
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My husband and I recently got a couple of cell phones from Verizon and
signed up for the national plan in anticipation of our upcoming trip to Las
Vegas.

I recently was made aware that there may be rules or restrictions about
using them in the casino. Obviously we'd let any incoming calls go to voice
mail at the table and then step away to return the call. My question is,
where in the casino would be a "safe" place to make a call on our phone
without security hassling us? We'd primarily want the ability to contact
each other which allows us to do more things apart.

Also, what would the phone reception be like in the casino? Or would we be
stuck searching for an exit to use the phone?

Thanks,
Kris


John Payton

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Nov 27, 2001, 7:43:01 PM11/27/01
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>I don't think cell phones are a problem for hotel security. If you look
around, there are public phones all over the casinos of las vegas. As for
reception, it can be hit or miss. I tried my phone at a table in the excalibur
and had no signal at all. the dealer said it was because of the 28 floors over
our head. Better to make your call just outside on of the casino doors.


Venerable Master

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Nov 27, 2001, 7:47:32 PM11/27/01
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AFAIK, the only place you're NOT allowed to use them is in the Sports Book
area!

Conspir8or

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Nov 27, 2001, 8:29:35 PM11/27/01
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Perverse story regarding cellphone use in Caesars Palace last June. I
was at a blackjack table sitting next to three guys together on a
bachelor party excursion. The guy in the center of that cluster kept
getting cell calls, which the floorman told him he couldn't take at
the table. So he told the guy to his left to play his spot, walked
several paces over to the slots, and continued the call. This happened
twice more.

All three times he left his play to his pal to deal with the phone,
the guy was MINTING money. His friend kept increasing his base quarter
bets by one unit each win, and between this progression and several
stragegically successful doubles, splits, & naturals, he was WAY ahead
and WAY surprised to see it when he returned after each call. When he
played his own spot, the house percentage reasserted itself. He still
ended up firmly ahead.

Me? I took no calls and lost $590. I should have hired a paging
service.

Conspir8or

PS. Was sitting at a table at Foxwoods and watched a lady take
multiple cell calls w/o harassment. Wasn't a loser at this table.
Perhaps my mojo is stimulated by (a) microwaves or (b) lax pit
critters.

Mieko

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Nov 27, 2001, 9:10:11 PM11/27/01
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In article <GmWM7.185657$My2.10...@news1.mntp1.il.home.com>, "Jim and Kris Dockter" <kri...@home.nospam.com> wrote:

>Also, what would the phone reception be like in the casino? Or would we be
>stuck searching for an exit to use the phone?

Phone reception isn't great, but I've usually been able to find a signal
before getting to an exit. As long as you stay away from the sports book,
security won't give you any hassles. If you're playing at a table, the dealer
or pit boss will usually ask you to step away from the table to talk - best
thing to do is to stand up when your phone rings, answer it, and tell the
person to hold on. Then finish the hand you are on (while standing behind your
chair), then talk to your caller a step away from the table. Don't know if
they'll bug you when playing slots, I'd do a similar thing just in case.

They are convienent to meet up with others that you're in Vegas with, if you
use them politely, and briefly.

Mieko

Richard Ness

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Nov 27, 2001, 9:23:00 PM11/27/01
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That is correct, (sports book area)
I'm sure you can figure out why.

Other than there, talk away!! I do all the time.


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WMAS 1960

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Nov 27, 2001, 9:52:52 PM11/27/01
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As has been mentioned, The only place, YOU CAN'T use them is around Sports
Book. I heard it mentioned that it is forbidden for two reasons. One they do
not want people standing in the book area and calling around compairing odds
etc. Also there is the concern of people taking bets over the phone and
placing them. Here in Illinois, there is a notice in the programs at the Race
Tracks that mention that while, I guess you can use the phone at the track, It
is seriously illegal if you get caught using your cell phone to relay or
transmit wagers of odds information. I have heard that Law Enforcement MAY be
listening to Cell Frequencies around the tracks and casinos.

As for talking while playing at a table I think the problem involves
ettiquette. If others are also playing they may ask you to step away out of
courtesy to other players who may not want the distraction. Also they will
tell you not to use your phone if it appears that the distraction is slowing
you down and thus slowing the flow of the game.

1.) Many games involve concentration and they don't want you interfering with
others concentration and

2.)For the casino, the name of the game is the most hands possible per hour.
Keep the game moving.

Eddie Haskell

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Nov 27, 2001, 10:50:35 PM11/27/01
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As long as you stay away from the booking area (horse races etc etc) and
away from the table games your OK. I have never been hassled for using a
2-way radio or a cellular in any casino yet. Be prepared to get stopped tho
going into the sports betting area. Be smart and shut it off or conceil it
before going to the tables or betting areas. Heres a good bet however...you
WILL be watched :)

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Al Klein

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Nov 27, 2001, 11:06:44 PM11/27/01
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:39:02 GMT, "Jim and Kris Dockter"
<kri...@home.nospam.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>I recently was made aware that there may be rules or restrictions about
>using them in the casino. Obviously we'd let any incoming calls go to voice
>mail at the table and then step away to return the call. My question is,
>where in the casino would be a "safe" place to make a call on our phone
>without security hassling us? We'd primarily want the ability to contact
>each other which allows us to do more things apart.

You can always ask a security guard as soon as you enter each casino.
That way you'll get accurate information.

>Also, what would the phone reception be like in the casino? Or would we be
>stuck searching for an exit to use the phone?

That depends on whether Verizon is 800 MHz or 1900 MHz in Vegas. If
800, you should have decent reception. If 1900, you may have none.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

Ken

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Nov 27, 2001, 11:53:24 PM11/27/01
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"Jim and Kris Dockter" <kri...@home.nospam.com> wrote in
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> I recently was made aware that there may be rules or restrictions about
> using them in the casino. Obviously we'd let any incoming calls go to
> voice mail at the table and then step away to return the call. My
> question is, where in the casino would be a "safe" place to make a call
> on our phone without security hassling us? We'd primarily want the
> ability to contact each other which allows us to do more things apart.

As long as you're not playing at a table game, they shouldn't care. Note
that there is alot of metal in Las Vegas which interferes with your cell
phone signal. I recall not getting a signal anywhere in the Bellagio casio,
but had no problems in some others.

Ken

Bill Radio

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Nov 28, 2001, 1:20:24 AM11/28/01
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Kris,
Now that you have some good answers about casino/phone etiquette, it
will also be comforting to know that Verizon has cell sites INSIDE
several casinos. If that isn't a resounding approval from the casino
management, then I don't know what is.

They are IN 4 casinos that I know of, the only one I know the name of is
Venecia (?). Verizon is 800 MHz in Vegas, and even some of the casinos
that don't have cell sites inside have pretty good coverage. I even get
coverage below ground level in most buildings.

If the casino can encourage you to stay in front of your slot machine by
allowing, and even encouraging, you to use your phone whenever you want,
they are so much the richer! Have fun.

-Bill Radio

Bi...@MountainWireless.com
Rocky Mtn. Wireless Ratings & Reviews at:
http://www.mountainwireless.com

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Annie

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Nov 27, 2001, 11:01:01 PM11/27/01
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I think the only places they don't want phones is the sports book areas.

I've had the cell phone ring while I was playing a slot at Riviera and
it worked fine. Same in the buffet at the Sahara. I carry a pager in my
purse and it went off in the Sahara casino.

I've also seen people walking thru the casinos while talking on the
phones.

annie :)

Cinnamon

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Nov 28, 2001, 9:29:50 PM11/28/01
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Hi,
As posted, someone may chase you off in the Sportsbook areas (though I doubt
it, didn't see much activity when I was there....) however, a Cingular phone
will have a difficult time getting a signal inside the Bellagio, Venetian,
Tropicana, Luxor, Paris and Aladdin casinos. At least that was when I was
sober enough to check....

Good Luck,

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bill b

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Nov 29, 2001, 1:38:55 AM11/29/01
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No electronic devices allowed near the tables.

Go see the movie Casino if you want to know why.

--
Bill B

Good luck!

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Cactus Jack

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Nov 29, 2001, 5:37:54 AM11/29/01
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Thanks bill, I was hoping to bring my PC with me to the roulette table and
track the wheel for a million spins or so. I guess I will have to go to plan
B. Pray and Spray.

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bill b

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Nov 29, 2001, 11:28:15 AM11/29/01
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I guess I will have to go to plan
> B. Pray and Spray.
>

Don't pick a day when god has to save lots of people from wtc like
disasters. He'll be too busy to move the ball where you want.


Bill Radio

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Nov 29, 2001, 11:57:57 AM11/29/01
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Jack,
I also thought that was a great gimmick to try until I saw that the
casinos actually added a sign board showing the last 100 spins or so.
It was clear that any effort to track the spins was not only futile,
but welcome by the casino!

-Bill Radio

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Cactus Jack

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Nov 29, 2001, 11:58:09 AM11/29/01
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Point well taken, bill.

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Curtis

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Nov 29, 2001, 9:03:55 PM11/29/01
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:23:47 -0500, UserError <ro...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>In my experience, most pit-bosses will ask that you take the call at a
>reasonable distance from the gaming tables. There are issues of
>distraction and potential cheating.

I ran into this a couple weeks ago playing Blackjack. I hadn't even
thought about it until the dealer asked me to please step away from
the table if I was going to take the call. Standing in the aisle
between tables was far enough, she just didn't want me sitting and
playing the game with the phone on (and I've got no problem with that,
seems reasonable enough (not to mention much more courteous to the
other players...))

>Remember, if they become suspicious of cheating, you pretty much loose
>your rights completely in the casino...so it's just their way of
>politely getting you not to appear that you are cheating.

Yup, they were very nice about it.

-- C

Cactus Jack

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Nov 29, 2001, 10:26:07 PM11/29/01
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Last 100 spins! Dude, that board must be bigger than bill's tv!

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bill b

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Nov 30, 2001, 1:02:24 AM11/30/01
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Jack,
> I also thought that was a great gimmick to try until I saw that the
> casinos actually added a sign board showing the last 100 spins or so.


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