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Martin Harran
Sep 28, 2023, 4:01:36 AM9/28/23
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My installation of Agent is increasingly adding responses to posts
into the wrong thread. For example, I replied a couple of days ago to
a message in a thread started just two weeks ago but my posts and
responses to it are buried in an old thread where the last post was
2008!
I don't think it's a Headers issue as when I check the headers in
Agent, the correct Subject is shown. Also, when I click on the last
Reference Message ID, it takes me to the post to which I am replying,
in the correct thread.
In order to view responses to my post, I have had to create a "Last 3
Days" filter. That filter shows the response in the correct thread!
This is only happening in Agent, the correct threads are maintained in
Google Groups.
I've tried Repairing the Foder but it has had no impact.
into the wrong thread. For example, I replied a couple of days ago to
a message in a thread started just two weeks ago but my posts and
responses to it are buried in an old thread where the last post was
2008!
I don't think it's a Headers issue as when I check the headers in
Agent, the correct Subject is shown. Also, when I click on the last
Reference Message ID, it takes me to the post to which I am replying,
in the correct thread.
In order to view responses to my post, I have had to create a "Last 3
Days" filter. That filter shows the response in the correct thread!
This is only happening in Agent, the correct threads are maintained in
Google Groups.
I've tried Repairing the Foder but it has had no impact.
Ralph Fox
Sep 28, 2023, 5:23:46 AM9/28/23
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For previous discussions, search this group for the phrase
"hash collision":
URL: <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent/search?q=%22hash%20collision%22>
For example, see this discussion from December 1997:
Subject: Mis-threaded messages
URL: <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent/c/ZUnJCJx2hFg/m/gw4M2npWMYwJ>
For a table showing the probability of mis-threading vs. the number
of headers in the group, see this post from May 1997.
To read the table you may need to use a fixed-pitch font. E.g., copy
the text from Google Groups and paste into a text editor that is using
a fixed-pitch font.
Subject: Threading observation - Attn: Sherlog
From: pls.se...@my.sig
URL: <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent/c/zzElLwjhaS8/m/nB9Dv1dWJCwJ>
--
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
It is better to fall in with crows than with flatterers; for in the
one case you are devoured when dead, in the other case while alive.
-- Antisthenes
Ralph Fox
Sep 28, 2023, 5:41:34 AM9/28/23
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 22:23:39 +1300, Ralph Fox wrote:
> For a table showing the probability of mis-threading vs. the number
> of headers in the group, see this post from May 1997.
To clarify...
> For a table showing the probability of mis-threading vs. the number
> of headers in the group, see this post from May 1997.
This is the probability that at least one mis-threading will
occur somewhere in the group.
This is not the probability that any given message will be
mis-threaded.
Martin Harran
Sep 28, 2023, 11:02:47 AM9/28/23
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 22:23:39 +1300, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
wrote:
Seems like no real answer to this unless I delete old posts which I
don't really want to do :(
wrote:
don't really want to do :(
Ralph Fox
Sep 28, 2023, 1:50:15 PM9/28/23
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Or, move old posts into a sub-folder (or multiple sub-folders
indexed by year).
If you use Find Global, it has an option “Include sub-folders”.
--
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
Heinz Schmitz
Sep 28, 2023, 10:39:06 PM9/28/23
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:01:32 +0100, Martin Harran
existing older posting, your new posting will be found "in the thread"
of the older one.
This can be avoided by making the new subject unique, like eg by
including yy-mm-dd-hh-mm.
Regards,
H.
Ralph Fox
Sep 29, 2023, 12:37:10 AM9/29/23
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:39:02 +0200, Heinz Schmitz wrote:
> If you happen to create a new posting with the same subject of an
> existing older posting, your new posting will be found "in the thread"
> of the older one.
> This can be avoided by making the new subject unique, like eg by
> including yy-mm-dd-hh-mm.
>
> Regards,
> H.
You can also avoid this case by turning _off_ “Enable threading by
> If you happen to create a new posting with the same subject of an
> existing older posting, your new posting will be found "in the thread"
> of the older one.
> This can be avoided by making the new subject unique, like eg by
> including yy-mm-dd-hh-mm.
>
> Regards,
> H.
subject”, at:
[Agent 1.7-1.93] Options >> General Preferences >> Message List
[Agent 2.00] Options >> General Preferences >> Display >> Message List Pane
[Agent 3.0-8.00] Tools >> Options >> Display >> Message List Pane
After you turn this off, it may not take effect immediately. To make
it take effect in a folder, change the folder's message list sort and
then change it back.
it is still a good idea to make the new subject unique, because other
readers of your post may have “threading by subject” enabled.
--
Regards
Ralph Fox
𝗟𝗼𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘆 (𝘯) 𝖠 𝗍𝖺𝗑 𝗈𝗇 𝗉𝖾𝗈𝗉𝗅𝖾 𝗐𝗁𝗈 𝖺𝗋𝖾 𝖻𝖺𝖽 𝖺𝗍 𝗆𝖺𝗍𝗁𝗌.
Martin Harran
Oct 12, 2023, 5:19:30 AM10/12/23
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 06:50:09 +1300, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
That is a very useful solution, thank you for that.
Martin Harran
Oct 12, 2023, 5:21:14 AM10/12/23
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:39:02 +0200, Heinz Schmitz
identified - too many headers in a group.
>Regards,
>H.
>
>
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