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Alfred Kaufmann
Mar 6, 2013, 11:48:44 AM3/6/13
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It is very nice that we get more than 109,000 newsgroups with years of
retention but what I want to find are newsgoups that are currently
active and from that group choose the newgroups I want to add to my
desk. Does anyone know if that can be done with this reader?
Ak
retention but what I want to find are newsgoups that are currently
active and from that group choose the newgroups I want to add to my
desk. Does anyone know if that can be done with this reader?
Ak
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Robert Neville
Mar 6, 2013, 7:55:22 PM3/6/13
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c_mulh...@nym.hush.com wrote:
>Sorry if I sound harsh but your post just does not make sense.
I understood it - he's trying to identify active newsgroups. Not many of those
around these days.
I have a couple of dozen that I scan daily, but only 1 or 2 are truly active.
alt.home.repair being the most active and that only because there seem to be a
lot of forum/usenet gateways in operation.
Evens ones that used to see 100s of posts a day like misc.consumers are ghost
towns.
AFAIK there's no way to see any activity statistics inside Agent, but the
information is available at sites like this one: http://usenetstats.com/
>Sorry if I sound harsh but your post just does not make sense.
I understood it - he's trying to identify active newsgroups. Not many of those
around these days.
I have a couple of dozen that I scan daily, but only 1 or 2 are truly active.
alt.home.repair being the most active and that only because there seem to be a
lot of forum/usenet gateways in operation.
Evens ones that used to see 100s of posts a day like misc.consumers are ghost
towns.
AFAIK there's no way to see any activity statistics inside Agent, but the
information is available at sites like this one: http://usenetstats.com/
Geoff
Mar 6, 2013, 11:17:37 PM3/6/13
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could manually do it by sampling the groups who's topics you are
interested in but it doesn't have the capability to measure the
activity in a group without actually downloading headers for it.
Trying to download the most recent headers for the entire list of
groups on a server would take quite a while, probably longer than just
doing a search on a group name and sampling the matches.
I don't know of any reader that has the capability you describe but I
haven't sampled the market. Usenet is losing traffic to web forums
these days. People want a pretty interface and useless avatars.
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Steve Hayes
Mar 7, 2013, 12:34:52 AM3/7/13
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On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:55:22 -0700, Robert Neville <do...@bother.com> wrote:
>AFAIK there's no way to see any activity statistics inside Agent, but the
>information is available at sites like this one: http://usenetstats.com/
Interesting site.
>AFAIK there's no way to see any activity statistics inside Agent, but the
>information is available at sites like this one: http://usenetstats.com/
It's a pity it can't tell you anything about the signal/noise ratio, though.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
Geoff
Mar 7, 2013, 2:51:30 AM3/7/13
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 07:34:52 +0200, Steve Hayes
<haye...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:55:22 -0700, Robert Neville <do...@bother.com> wrote:
>
>
>>AFAIK there's no way to see any activity statistics inside Agent, but the
>>information is available at sites like this one: http://usenetstats.com/
>
>Interesting site.
>
>It's a pity it can't tell you anything about the signal/noise ratio, though.
Proof that quantity doesn't indicate quality.
<haye...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:55:22 -0700, Robert Neville <do...@bother.com> wrote:
>
>
>>AFAIK there's no way to see any activity statistics inside Agent, but the
>>information is available at sites like this one: http://usenetstats.com/
>
>Interesting site.
>
>It's a pity it can't tell you anything about the signal/noise ratio, though.
CRNG
Mar 7, 2013, 5:55:02 AM3/7/13
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On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:55:22 -0700, Robert Neville <do...@bother.com>
wrote in <41pfj8t4bo3adikdoqh9r9bfqupa2fbg85@None> Re Re: Where are
active Usenet newsgroups?:
>c_mulh...@nym.hush.com wrote:
>
>>Sorry if I sound harsh but your post just does not make sense.
>
>I understood it - he's trying to identify active newsgroups.
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Noah Sombrero
Mar 7, 2013, 10:18:32 AM3/7/13
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Alfred,
A useful comparison might be that this ng gets as much or more traffic than most.
Of course the binaries still get a lot. If that is what you are after. One tactic might be to find
a topic that interests you and start posting. Give it a month. Others who are looking for an
active ng will be attracted. Or you could just start discussing your rose garden here.
--
Noah Sombrero
Of course the binaries still get a lot. If that is what you are after. One tactic might be to find
a topic that interests you and start posting. Give it a month. Others who are looking for an
active ng will be attracted. Or you could just start discussing your rose garden here.
--
Noah Sombrero
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Alfred Kaufmann
Mar 8, 2013, 4:54:58 PM3/8/13
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On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:55:22 -0700, Robert Neville <do...@bother.com>
wrote:
that had posts in 2013 but not in newgroups that I have my interest.
Ak
Alfred Kaufmann
Mar 8, 2013, 5:02:40 PM3/8/13
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:01:46 -0600, g...@rr.com wrote:
>On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:55:02 -0600, CRNG <noe...@atthisdomain.gov>
>wrote:
>Easynews web based info does have the ability to sort by several
>items.
>
>If you use their Global Search it sorts by lastest date an item was
>posted and shows the groups. I have use this to keep up when a poster
>changes to a different group.
>
>However, you do have to have an Easynews account to use this.
>
>you could also use some of the nzb sites and use a general search
>term. It will show the groups with the last posting.
Easynews does offer a 14 day trial but their sample search for "beach
babes" tells you where there they have their interests. As soon as I
tried to search for a newgroup they wanted a credit card.
Thanks for the suggestion,
Ak
>On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:55:02 -0600, CRNG <noe...@atthisdomain.gov>
>wrote:
>items.
>
>If you use their Global Search it sorts by lastest date an item was
>posted and shows the groups. I have use this to keep up when a poster
>changes to a different group.
>
>However, you do have to have an Easynews account to use this.
>
>you could also use some of the nzb sites and use a general search
>term. It will show the groups with the last posting.
Easynews does offer a 14 day trial but their sample search for "beach
babes" tells you where there they have their interests. As soon as I
tried to search for a newgroup they wanted a credit card.
Thanks for the suggestion,
Ak
Alfred Kaufmann
Mar 8, 2013, 5:10:20 PM3/8/13
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On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:17:37 -0800, Geoff <ge...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
I don't like web forums for a few reasons, you need to set up an
account for each one and every one of them seem to use different
software.
Many years ago USEnet had way fewer newsgroups but most of them were
active with very helpful people. I have 2 months left in my free
access and then I will probably uninstall Agent for the last time. :-(
Ak
wrote:
account for each one and every one of them seem to use different
software.
Many years ago USEnet had way fewer newsgroups but most of them were
active with very helpful people. I have 2 months left in my free
access and then I will probably uninstall Agent for the last time. :-(
Ak
Alfred Kaufmann
Mar 8, 2013, 5:27:25 PM3/8/13
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:17:49 +1100, Erik Vastmasd
<erik....@sd.invalid> wrote:
>I caught a glimpse of Alfred Kaufmann <alf...@kaufmann.ca> on Wed, 06
>Mar 2013 08:48:44 -0800, writing in
>alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent:
>What Operating System do you use?
>Just in case you are using Windows 7, try "alt.windows7.general".
>
>What email program do you use?
>
>Give us an idea of what other programs you use and see if we can make a
>few suggestions.
Wiindows7.General has some activity and I also tried searching for
Microsoft Office and Outlook. Mirosoft of course has its own forums.
I have some games but the good old ones had activity years ago and for
the new games I have there is nothing.
So far I don't think I will be subscribing to any Usenet service.
Ak
<erik....@sd.invalid> wrote:
>I caught a glimpse of Alfred Kaufmann <alf...@kaufmann.ca> on Wed, 06
>Mar 2013 08:48:44 -0800, writing in
>alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent:
>Just in case you are using Windows 7, try "alt.windows7.general".
>
>What email program do you use?
>
>Give us an idea of what other programs you use and see if we can make a
>few suggestions.
Wiindows7.General has some activity and I also tried searching for
Microsoft Office and Outlook. Mirosoft of course has its own forums.
I have some games but the good old ones had activity years ago and for
the new games I have there is nothing.
So far I don't think I will be subscribing to any Usenet service.
Ak
Jim
Mar 8, 2013, 7:39:57 PM3/8/13
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There are still many active groups but it depends what you are
interested in. Let me know and perhaps I may have some suggestions.
Nick Spalding
Mar 9, 2013, 3:33:06 AM3/9/13
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Geoff wrote, in <1umlj8dlt3pha4e5c...@4ax.com>
on Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:54:23 -0800:
> I use eternal-september for text groups. It's free and there are no
> binaries. They do a decent job of filtering out the porn-link, Rolex
> and virus-link spammers.
>
> Sign up for an account here: http://www.eternal-september.org/
Seconded. The proprietor is very helpful via the group
eternal-september.support, available on e-s and also on another free
server news.albasani.net. The proprietor of the latter died last July
but a group of his friends have kept it going.
<http://albasani.net/index.html.en>
--
Nick Spalding
IE8, Vista Home Premium SP2, 32 bit, Intel Viiv dual core
E6300 (1.86Ghz, 1066MHz FSB), 2GB RAM, 320GB NTFS HD,
Video Nvidia GeForce 7900GS LCD 1024x768x75Hz
on Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:54:23 -0800:
> binaries. They do a decent job of filtering out the porn-link, Rolex
> and virus-link spammers.
>
> Sign up for an account here: http://www.eternal-september.org/
Seconded. The proprietor is very helpful via the group
eternal-september.support, available on e-s and also on another free
server news.albasani.net. The proprietor of the latter died last July
but a group of his friends have kept it going.
<http://albasani.net/index.html.en>
--
Nick Spalding
IE8, Vista Home Premium SP2, 32 bit, Intel Viiv dual core
E6300 (1.86Ghz, 1066MHz FSB), 2GB RAM, 320GB NTFS HD,
Video Nvidia GeForce 7900GS LCD 1024x768x75Hz
Bill Dugan
Mar 8, 2013, 5:42:18 PM3/8/13
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:10:20 -0800, Alfred Kaufmann
<alf...@kaufmann.ca> wrote:
snip
>
>I don't like web forums for a few reasons, you need to set up an
>account for each one and every one of them seem to use different
>software.
>
>Many years ago USEnet had way fewer newsgroups but most of them were
>active with very helpful people. I have 2 months left in my free
>access and then I will probably uninstall Agent for the last time. :-(
>
>Ak
>
There are still a few free news servers around. You might look at
xsusenet and eternal-september, for example.
<alf...@kaufmann.ca> wrote:
snip
>
>I don't like web forums for a few reasons, you need to set up an
>account for each one and every one of them seem to use different
>software.
>
>Many years ago USEnet had way fewer newsgroups but most of them were
>active with very helpful people. I have 2 months left in my free
>access and then I will probably uninstall Agent for the last time. :-(
>
>Ak
>
xsusenet and eternal-september, for example.
Geoff
Mar 9, 2013, 1:54:23 AM3/9/13
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Stephen Wolstenholme
Mar 9, 2013, 4:53:37 AM3/9/13
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:10:20 -0800, Alfred Kaufmann
<alf...@kaufmann.ca> wrote:
>I don't like web forums for a few reasons, you need to set up an
>account for each one and every one of them seem to use different
>software.
That's my opinion as well plus the fact that every forum needs me to
<alf...@kaufmann.ca> wrote:
>I don't like web forums for a few reasons, you need to set up an
>account for each one and every one of them seem to use different
>software.
log in. I'll stick to Usenet as I can check updates in every group I
use in about 30 mins. It would take more the a day to login to the
same number of forums.
Steve
--
EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. http://www.easynn.com
SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. http://www.swingnn.com
JustNN. Just Neural Networks. http://www.justnn.com
Stephen Wolstenholme
Mar 9, 2013, 5:03:28 AM3/9/13
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depend on just one.
h...@h-gee.co.uk
Mar 9, 2013, 7:24:43 AM3/9/13
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:42:18 -0800, Bill Dugan <wkd...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
try free.teranews.com you'll have to sign up and you will have a daily
download limit but you do get all the binary groups as well as the text
groups.
Hugh of Bognor
--
I used to be an Egotistical Megalomaniac - but now I'm just perfect!
Hugh Gundersen
h...@h-gee.co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
wrote:
download limit but you do get all the binary groups as well as the text
groups.
Hugh of Bognor
--
I used to be an Egotistical Megalomaniac - but now I'm just perfect!
Hugh Gundersen
h...@h-gee.co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
DrTeeth
Mar 9, 2013, 11:42:29 AM3/9/13
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On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:43:15 -0800, just as I was about to take a
herb, c_mulh...@nym.hush.com disturbed my reverie and wrote:
> I'd hazard a guess that
>just about everyone who read your post doesn't have a clue what you are
>talking about.
The post was quite clear. OP wants to know if Agent can produce a list
of the active groups on a particular server so he can take his pick
from them.
--
Cheers
DrT
______________________________
We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
our lives; but we can always choose whether or not
to dance in the puddles (Jewish proverb).
herb, c_mulh...@nym.hush.com disturbed my reverie and wrote:
> I'd hazard a guess that
>just about everyone who read your post doesn't have a clue what you are
>talking about.
The post was quite clear. OP wants to know if Agent can produce a list
of the active groups on a particular server so he can take his pick
from them.
--
Cheers
DrT
______________________________
We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
our lives; but we can always choose whether or not
to dance in the puddles (Jewish proverb).
DrTeeth
Mar 9, 2013, 11:44:14 AM3/9/13
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:54:58 -0800, just as I was about to take a
herb, Alfred Kaufmann <alf...@kaufmann.ca> disturbed my reverie and
wrote:
>Thanks for the suggestion. I tried usenetstats.com and found some
>that had posts in 2013 but not in newgroups that I have my interest.
That is not the fault of the site, is it? There may be NO active
groups that interest you <g>.
herb, Alfred Kaufmann <alf...@kaufmann.ca> disturbed my reverie and
wrote:
>Thanks for the suggestion. I tried usenetstats.com and found some
>that had posts in 2013 but not in newgroups that I have my interest.
groups that interest you <g>.
DrTeeth
Mar 9, 2013, 11:46:08 AM3/9/13
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:02:40 -0800, just as I was about to take a
>Easynews does offer a 14 day trial but their sample search for "beach
>babes" tells you where there they have their interests. As soon as I
>tried to search for a newgroup they wanted a credit card.
That's real chutzpahdik.
>babes" tells you where there they have their interests. As soon as I
>tried to search for a newgroup they wanted a credit card.
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Hully of Grand Fenwick
Mar 11, 2013, 3:12:34 AM3/11/13
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:27:29 -0700, c_mulh...@nym.hush.com wrote:
> The OP has been asked several times what newsgroups he is interested in and
> has failed to provide an answer.
A good sign that it's p0rn.
> The OP has been asked several times what newsgroups he is interested in and
> has failed to provide an answer.
A good sign that it's p0rn.
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pyotr filipivich
Mar 11, 2013, 3:36:52 PM3/11/13
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Steve Hayes <haye...@telkomsa.net> on Thu, 07 Mar 2013 07:34:52 +0200
typed in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent the following:
it is the sites with the interesting post. I.E., a subject I care
about.
--
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
typed in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent the following:
>On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:55:22 -0700, Robert Neville <do...@bother.com> wrote:
>
>
>>AFAIK there's no way to see any activity statistics inside Agent, but the
>>information is available at sites like this one: http://usenetstats.com/
>
>Interesting site.
>
>It's a pity it can't tell you anything about the signal/noise ratio, though.
It isn't the sites with the most posts, or the most recent posts -
>
>
>>AFAIK there's no way to see any activity statistics inside Agent, but the
>>information is available at sites like this one: http://usenetstats.com/
>
>Interesting site.
>
>It's a pity it can't tell you anything about the signal/noise ratio, though.
it is the sites with the interesting post. I.E., a subject I care
about.
--
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
gall...@gmail.com
Feb 7, 2016, 11:24:25 AM2/7/16
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On Saturday, March 9, 2013 at 4:53:37 AM UTC-5, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:10:20 -0800, Alfred Kaufmann
> <alf...@kaufmann.ca> wrote:
>
> >I don't like web forums for a few reasons, you need to set up an
> >account for each one and every one of them seem to use different
> >software.
>
> That's my opinion as well plus the fact that every forum needs me to
> log in. I'll stick to Usenet as I can check updates in every group I
> use in about 30 mins. It would take more the a day to login to the
> same number of forums.
>
Most popular Newsgroups Text only , i use news://gallaxial.com
> On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:10:20 -0800, Alfred Kaufmann
> <alf...@kaufmann.ca> wrote:
>
> >I don't like web forums for a few reasons, you need to set up an
> >account for each one and every one of them seem to use different
> >software.
>
> That's my opinion as well plus the fact that every forum needs me to
> log in. I'll stick to Usenet as I can check updates in every group I
> use in about 30 mins. It would take more the a day to login to the
> same number of forums.
>
No login
most of the Stats webside are Dead , it's carrying some Active Groups
I read somewhere the operator search for activer Groups to add
char...@xnet.com
Feb 7, 2016, 2:56:50 PM2/7/16
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Ralph Fox
Feb 7, 2016, 3:52:44 PM2/7/16
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> Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
> Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.55.71.173; posting-account=An7n6goAAAAZHYOub_BmqYLNd2kIXPRj
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.55.71.173
> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> On Saturday, March 9, 2013 at 4:53:37 AM UTC-5, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
----------------------->^^^^
The poster is running a small NNTP server on his own DSL subscriber
connection.
The NNTP server has a little under 200 groups. The groups carried
would appear to reflect the poster's = operator's own interests.
In spite of having his own NNTP server, the poster used Google Groups
to post his previous message.
The nature of the previous post, including that it is a followup
in a thread several years old, might suggest the following common
scenario:
Someone has something he wants to post about and have people read.
This might be some interest (or it might be plain spam).
So he searches Google Groups for some keywords which might
indicate people interested in what he wants to post about.
He then posts a followup in Google Groups, but totally ignoring
how old the discussion thread was.
--
Kind regards
Ralph
> Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.55.71.173; posting-account=An7n6goAAAAZHYOub_BmqYLNd2kIXPRj
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.55.71.173
> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> On Saturday, March 9, 2013 at 4:53:37 AM UTC-5, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
> > On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:10:20 -0800, Alfred Kaufmann
> > <alf...@kaufmann.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >I don't like web forums for a few reasons, you need to set up an
> > >account for each one and every one of them seem to use different
> > >software.
> >
> > That's my opinion as well plus the fact that every forum needs me to
> > log in. I'll stick to Usenet as I can check updates in every group I
> > use in about 30 mins. It would take more the a day to login to the
> > same number of forums.
> >
>
>
> Most popular Newsgroups Text only , i use news://gallaxial.com
> No login
>
> most of the Stats webside are Dead , it's carrying some Active Groups
> I read somewhere the operator search for activer Groups to add
For anyone's interest...
> > <alf...@kaufmann.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >I don't like web forums for a few reasons, you need to set up an
> > >account for each one and every one of them seem to use different
> > >software.
> >
> > That's my opinion as well plus the fact that every forum needs me to
> > log in. I'll stick to Usenet as I can check updates in every group I
> > use in about 30 mins. It would take more the a day to login to the
> > same number of forums.
> >
>
>
> Most popular Newsgroups Text only , i use news://gallaxial.com
> No login
>
> most of the Stats webside are Dead , it's carrying some Active Groups
> I read somewhere the operator search for activer Groups to add
The poster is running a small NNTP server on his own DSL subscriber
connection.
The NNTP server has a little under 200 groups. The groups carried
would appear to reflect the poster's = operator's own interests.
In spite of having his own NNTP server, the poster used Google Groups
to post his previous message.
The nature of the previous post, including that it is a followup
in a thread several years old, might suggest the following common
scenario:
Someone has something he wants to post about and have people read.
This might be some interest (or it might be plain spam).
So he searches Google Groups for some keywords which might
indicate people interested in what he wants to post about.
He then posts a followup in Google Groups, but totally ignoring
how old the discussion thread was.
--
Kind regards
Ralph
Micky
Feb 8, 2016, 9:40:56 PM2/8/16
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On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 11:18:57 -0500, Bud Frede <fr...@mouse-potato.com>
wrote:
>
>> Someone has something he wants to post about and have people read.
>> This might be some interest (or it might be plain spam).
>>
>> So he searches Google Groups for some keywords which might
>> indicate people interested in what he wants to post about.
>>
>> He then posts a followup in Google Groups, but totally ignoring
>> how old the discussion thread was.
>
>I thought that Google had changed this so you couldn't reply to really
>old posts? I know it was a big problem in the past, but I thought I had
>read somewhere that they fixed it.
At the very least, if one can read an old post, he can quote it, and
reply to it in a NEW post, not as a reply to the original post.
Perhaps that's what they're doing.
Especially when using places that echo what's going on in the real
Usenet. That is, especially perhaps.... or perhaps especially,
whichever fits.
>I filter out googlegroups posts in many newsgroups. I suppose I miss
>some good content, but it seems that most of what gurglegropers post is
>not worth reading.
wrote:
>
>> Someone has something he wants to post about and have people read.
>> This might be some interest (or it might be plain spam).
>>
>> So he searches Google Groups for some keywords which might
>> indicate people interested in what he wants to post about.
>>
>> He then posts a followup in Google Groups, but totally ignoring
>> how old the discussion thread was.
>
>old posts? I know it was a big problem in the past, but I thought I had
>read somewhere that they fixed it.
At the very least, if one can read an old post, he can quote it, and
reply to it in a NEW post, not as a reply to the original post.
Perhaps that's what they're doing.
Especially when using places that echo what's going on in the real
Usenet. That is, especially perhaps.... or perhaps especially,
whichever fits.
>I filter out googlegroups posts in many newsgroups. I suppose I miss
>some good content, but it seems that most of what gurglegropers post is
>not worth reading.
Rich Ulrich
Feb 9, 2016, 1:06:44 AM2/9/16
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On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 21:40:58 -0500, Micky <NONONO...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 11:18:57 -0500, Bud Frede <fr...@mouse-potato.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>> Someone has something he wants to post about and have people read.
>>> This might be some interest (or it might be plain spam).
>>>
>>> So he searches Google Groups for some keywords which might
>>> indicate people interested in what he wants to post about.
>>>
>>> He then posts a followup in Google Groups, but totally ignoring
>>> how old the discussion thread was.
>>
>>I thought that Google had changed this so you couldn't reply to really
>>old posts? I know it was a big problem in the past, but I thought I had
>>read somewhere that they fixed it.
>
>At the very least, if one can read an old post, he can quote it, and
>reply to it in a NEW post, not as a reply to the original post.
"Searching Google Groups" is something that I stopped trying to do,
quite a while ago. Whatever Google may have done to control
Replies to old posts in that circumstance is probably irrelevant.
Since ...
Regular Google searches will pull up the old post to a Usenet group
when the search phrase is particular enough. Among other uses,
that is how to find the old thread that someone has quoted.
Now, regular Google offers the option of Replying to that message,
without any special notice that you are /not/ sending email, and
you will /not/ typically receive an email reply. Perhaps instead of
having one button for Reply, they should have two buttons, where
the first one is a link labeled "Before you Reply, you should know
what is in this Usenet FAQ."
>
>Perhaps that's what they're doing.
>
>Especially when using places that echo what's going on in the real
>Usenet. That is, especially perhaps.... or perhaps especially,
>whichever fits.
>
>>I filter out googlegroups posts in many newsgroups. I suppose I miss
>>some good content, but it seems that most of what gurglegropers post is
>>not worth reading.
--
Rich Ulrich
wrote:
>On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 11:18:57 -0500, Bud Frede <fr...@mouse-potato.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>> Someone has something he wants to post about and have people read.
>>> This might be some interest (or it might be plain spam).
>>>
>>> So he searches Google Groups for some keywords which might
>>> indicate people interested in what he wants to post about.
>>>
>>> He then posts a followup in Google Groups, but totally ignoring
>>> how old the discussion thread was.
>>
>>I thought that Google had changed this so you couldn't reply to really
>>old posts? I know it was a big problem in the past, but I thought I had
>>read somewhere that they fixed it.
>
>At the very least, if one can read an old post, he can quote it, and
>reply to it in a NEW post, not as a reply to the original post.
quite a while ago. Whatever Google may have done to control
Replies to old posts in that circumstance is probably irrelevant.
Since ...
Regular Google searches will pull up the old post to a Usenet group
when the search phrase is particular enough. Among other uses,
that is how to find the old thread that someone has quoted.
Now, regular Google offers the option of Replying to that message,
without any special notice that you are /not/ sending email, and
you will /not/ typically receive an email reply. Perhaps instead of
having one button for Reply, they should have two buttons, where
the first one is a link labeled "Before you Reply, you should know
what is in this Usenet FAQ."
>
>Perhaps that's what they're doing.
>
>Especially when using places that echo what's going on in the real
>Usenet. That is, especially perhaps.... or perhaps especially,
>whichever fits.
>
>>I filter out googlegroups posts in many newsgroups. I suppose I miss
>>some good content, but it seems that most of what gurglegropers post is
>>not worth reading.
Rich Ulrich
Ralph Fox
Feb 9, 2016, 1:30:40 AM2/9/16
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On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 21:40:58 -0500, Micky wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 11:18:57 -0500, Bud Frede <fr...@mouse-potato.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> He then posts a followup in Google Groups, but totally ignoring
>>> how old the discussion thread was.
>>
>> I thought that Google had changed this so you couldn't reply to really
>> old posts? I know it was a big problem in the past, but I thought I had
>> read somewhere that they fixed it.
>
> At the very least, if one can read an old post, he can quote it, and
> reply to it in a NEW post, not as a reply to the original post.
>
> Perhaps that's what they're doing.
Not in this case. The post has the "References:" header of a
> On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 11:18:57 -0500, Bud Frede <fr...@mouse-potato.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> He then posts a followup in Google Groups, but totally ignoring
>>> how old the discussion thread was.
>>
>> I thought that Google had changed this so you couldn't reply to really
>> old posts? I know it was a big problem in the past, but I thought I had
>> read somewhere that they fixed it.
>
> At the very least, if one can read an old post, he can quote it, and
> reply to it in a NEW post, not as a reply to the original post.
>
> Perhaps that's what they're doing.
reply, which is not what a NEW post would have.
--
Kind regards
Ralph
pyotr filipivich
Feb 9, 2016, 12:32:13 PM2/9/16
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Rich Ulrich <rich....@comcast.net> on Tue, 09 Feb 2016 01:06:48
-0500 typed in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent the following:
Sad to say, I have found Google to be quite useless when searching
for posts not made via google.groups, or made prior to Google deciding
it was going to be The Content Provider.
>>Perhaps that's what they're doing.
>>
>>Especially when using places that echo what's going on in the real
>>Usenet. That is, especially perhaps.... or perhaps especially,
>>whichever fits.
>>
>>>I filter out googlegroups posts in many newsgroups. I suppose I miss
>>>some good content, but it seems that most of what gurglegropers post is
>>>not worth reading.
To quote Ted Surgeon - 90% of everything is crap.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?
-0500 typed in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent the following:
for posts not made via google.groups, or made prior to Google deciding
it was going to be The Content Provider.
>>Perhaps that's what they're doing.
>>
>>Especially when using places that echo what's going on in the real
>>Usenet. That is, especially perhaps.... or perhaps especially,
>>whichever fits.
>>
>>>I filter out googlegroups posts in many newsgroups. I suppose I miss
>>>some good content, but it seems that most of what gurglegropers post is
>>>not worth reading.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?
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