Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Two Dots Over U > Keyboard

66 views
Skip to first unread message

El Zorro Gris

unread,
Aug 31, 2002, 11:15:17 AM8/31/02
to

Hi:

I am using the Spanish (Mexico) keyboard settings in Windows ME.

I don't see the double dot over the u anywhere in that keyboard.

Am I missing it, or is there another way to make the u with two dots?

Thanks


Norris

Lower case

|1234567890'¿
qwertyuiop´+}
asdfghjklñ{
zxcvbnm,.-

Shift key depressed

°!"#$%&/()=?¡
QWERTYUIOP¨*]
ASDFGHJKLÑ[
ZXCVBNM;:_

I don't know what the symbol is where the US tilde key is (far left on
top row). It looks like it could be the double dot, but if it is, I
can't get it over the u.


¡Adelante Ana Guevara!
Bala de Plata - El Zorro Canoso
Página Personal - http://pw1.netcom.com/~nmt1/index.html

T.Schmidt

unread,
Aug 31, 2002, 12:27:51 PM8/31/02
to
I use <ALT> and 129 (numeric keys on the right). That is:

<ALT> and simultaneously 129 to get ü

T.Schmidt
P.S. <ALT> 164 gives you ñ There are more tricks, just ask about entering
ASCII codes
-----------------------------------
"El Zorro Gris" <nm...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:cum1nuoooq1vpmvqn...@4ax.com...

shevchenko

unread,
Aug 31, 2002, 1:22:44 PM8/31/02
to
Try
" followed by u
üüüüüüüü

sheva


"El Zorro Gris" <nm...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:cum1nuoooq1vpmvqn...@4ax.com...
>

Fiesta4U2

unread,
Aug 31, 2002, 2:52:51 PM8/31/02
to
I use Win XP Spanish Modern Sort: to get the diéresis, after I have done
the ALT+SHIFT to enable the Spanish keyboard, I use: SHIFT + ", then key
the letter U/u.
Result: ü

Lani
-------

El Zorro Gris

unread,
Aug 31, 2002, 6:26:19 PM8/31/02
to
In the recent past, Fiesta4U2 wrote:

>I use Win XP Spanish Modern Sort: to get the diéresis, after I have done
>the ALT+SHIFT to enable the Spanish keyboard, I use: SHIFT + ", then key
>the letter U/u.
>Result: ü

Thanks, Lani. In the Mexican Spanish keyboard, Shift and the 'plus'
key gives the upside down exlamation mark. Guess I might try one of
the other Spanish keyboard options - unless XP and ME are that
different.


Norris

El Zorro Gris

unread,
Aug 31, 2002, 6:28:39 PM8/31/02
to
In the recent past, T.Schmidt wrote:

>I use <ALT> and 129 (numeric keys on the right). That is:
>
><ALT> and simultaneously 129 to get ü
>
>T.Schmidt

>P.S. <ALT> 164 gives you ń There are more tricks, just ask about entering
>ASCII codes

Thanks - guess I'll have to use that.

All of the other intricacies of the Spanish language appear to be
covered in the Spanish keyboard layout of Windows ME. You still have
to memorize where the keys are, but that's easier (for me) than
memorizing ALT numbers.


Norris

ĄAdelante Ana Guevara!

spoonman

unread,
Aug 31, 2002, 8:18:32 PM8/31/02
to
El Zorro Gris wrote:
>
> In the recent past, T.Schmidt wrote:
>
> >I use <ALT> and 129 (numeric keys on the right). That is:
> >
> ><ALT> and simultaneously 129 to get ü
> >
> >T.Schmidt
> >P.S. <ALT> 164 gives you ñ There are more tricks, just ask about entering

> >ASCII codes
>
> Thanks - guess I'll have to use that.
>
> All of the other intricacies of the Spanish language appear to be
> covered in the Spanish keyboard layout of Windows ME. You still have
> to memorize where the keys are, but that's easier (for me) than
> memorizing ALT numbers.
>
> Norris

I use 98 but it's probably the same in ME. Under the English keyboard
you can select the international setting. Then for the ü all you have to
do is type " and then u. For á é í etc. you just type ' and then the
vowel you need. If you actually need the quote characters you just hit
the space bar after typing it or just keep typing if the next letter is
not a vowel. Oh and for ñ you just type ~ and then n. Anyway, this
setting works well for me. You might also try Allchars at
http://allchars.zwolnet.com/
It's freeware and is quite useful when you get used to it. It will do
the ü easily but there is one more key stroke involved. I use it for the
macros but I used to use it for accents until I found out about the
international keyboard setting.

Cheers

T.Schmidt

unread,
Aug 31, 2002, 9:24:58 PM8/31/02
to
The <Alt> number combination is good because it gives you full access to a
lot of symbols, but of course, you need an excellente memory or an ASCII
table to have with you. I have been using it for so long that most
combinations I can recall from memory.

T.Schmidt
=======================


"El Zorro Gris" <nm...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

news:fkg2nu06gn05s13fe...@4ax.com...


> In the recent past, T.Schmidt wrote:
>
> >I use <ALT> and 129 (numeric keys on the right). That is:
> >
> ><ALT> and simultaneously 129 to get ü
> >
> >T.Schmidt

> >P.S. <ALT> 164 gives you ñ There are more tricks, just ask about


entering
> >ASCII codes
>
> Thanks - guess I'll have to use that.
>
> All of the other intricacies of the Spanish language appear to be
> covered in the Spanish keyboard layout of Windows ME. You still have
> to memorize where the keys are, but that's easier (for me) than
> memorizing ALT numbers.
>
>
> Norris
>

> ¡Adelante Ana Guevara!

PANGosaurus

unread,
Aug 31, 2002, 10:18:26 PM8/31/02
to
[PANG]: I just tried it, and, by golly, you're right! <ü>
I had been using ALt129 for ü...
Thanks!
--
PANGosaurus***********
** CyberCogito ergo CyberSum **
*****************<pa...@earthling.net>

"shevchenko" <shev...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cl7c9.38204$n73.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...

PANGosaurus

unread,
Aug 31, 2002, 10:35:46 PM8/31/02
to
[PANG]: ¿Te gusta Windows XP? ¿No has tenido problemas? (Yotas, todavía
pensando si sí o si nó --Uupps! ¿acento diacrítico? ¿U sí, u nó?)

--
PANGosaurus***********
** CyberCogito ergo CyberSum **
*****************<pa...@earthling.net>

"Fiesta4U2" <ljc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3D711079...@worldnet.att.net...

El Limey

unread,
Sep 1, 2002, 11:36:12 AM9/1/02
to
Below

"El Zorro Gris" <nm...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

news:kjg2nucu3mbsgtcv3...@4ax.com...

If you want to follow the method outlined by Lani you need to use
Spanish Modern sort instead of the Mexican layout.
Remember that the keyboard variations are for the layout of a conventional
typewriter of that country, nothing more.
I use a Spanish keyboard that I bought in Spain and I have to use Spanish
Traditional sort, if I did not, then the markings on various keys would not
correspond with their action.
I use this keyboard all the time for both English and Spanish and the only
thing that I have to use the ASCII keys for is the £ sign which we still use
here in the UK.
Regards
Derek
--
La página web Inglesa de Los amigos de España
http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/amigosesp/

Fiesta4U2

unread,
Sep 1, 2002, 2:56:39 PM9/1/02
to
No, you misunderstood. After you ALT & SHIFT to enable the Spanish keyboard:
you SHIFT & hold, then key the " (quotation mark) key, then the letter u. You
do not key the plus sign.

Lani ;-)

Fiesta4U2

unread,
Sep 1, 2002, 2:59:49 PM9/1/02
to
No problemas. ME had features I liked that XP does not. A person needs to
upgrade from time to time. You don't need XP but I have gotten used to it. At
first, the screens looked so different. I later learned that you can customize
them to resemble former versions.

I am not sure I understood all of your question.

Lani

Fiesta4U2

unread,
Sep 1, 2002, 3:03:32 PM9/1/02
to
Hmm...in XP I can't seem to find where I "changed" the keyboard. It used
to be in Control Panel, Keyboard, Languages, etc.

Any ideas from anyone?

Lani

El Zorro Gris

unread,
Sep 1, 2002, 3:15:37 PM9/1/02
to
In the recent past, Fiesta4U2 wrote:


On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 18:56:39 GMT, you wrote:

>No, you misunderstood. After you ALT & SHIFT to enable the Spanish keyboard:
>you SHIFT & hold, then key the " (quotation mark) key, then the letter u. You
>do not key the plus sign.
>

Windows ME, with Spanish Modern Sort Keyboard Layout

SHIFT & hold, then key the " <<double quote>> key, then the letter u,
I get..

[U


Ahhaa.... HOWEVER, by hitting SHIFT (and then holding) and then
hitting the (lc: [, upper case: { key, ie << [{ >> key), I now get:

Ü

So, in ME, the process seems to work, but with a different key. This
key << [{ >> is the third from right on second row from top on my
physical American Compaq keyboard - whereas the << " >> key is second
from right in third row from top on my physical American Compaq
keyboard.

This key, shown on a physical American keyboard as (<< [{) >>, by
the way, is the same key that produces the normal accent by hitting
this key followed by any vowel with about any Spanish keyboard layout
from keyboard settings in Windows.

Now, I´ve got


That key << [{ >>followed by any vowel

á, é, í, ó, ú


That key << [{ >>, with Shift depressed, followed by any vowel

ä, ë, ď, ö, ü


Thanks, Lani, for helping me figure this out.


Norris

ĄAdelante Ana Guevara!

Fiesta4U2

unread,
Sep 1, 2002, 10:05:39 PM9/1/02
to
Sorry, but I may have again mislead you. When I had ME I now remember choosing
Spanish International. I think that was it. I am unable to re-trace my steps now.

When I go to Control Panel, Keyboard, I cannot find "Languages". I'll figure it
out someday.

Lani ;-)

Fiesta4U2

unread,
Sep 1, 2002, 10:06:58 PM9/1/02
to
I recall that with Modern Sort, I used the Shift and the key to the right of the
letter P ({[) to get the diéresis.

Lani

El Zorro Gris wrote:

> ä, ë, ï, ö, ü


>
> Thanks, Lani, for helping me figure this out.
>
> Norris
>

> ¡Adelante Ana Guevara!

PANGosaurus

unread,
Sep 2, 2002, 12:53:34 PM9/2/02
to
Fiesta4U2 wrote:
>
> No problemas. ME had features I liked that XP does not. A person needs to
> upgrade from time to time. You don't need XP but I have gotten used to it. At
> first, the screens looked so different. I later learned that you can customize
> them to resemble former versions.
>
> I am not sure I understood all of your question.
>
> Lani
>
> PANGosaurus wrote:
>
> > [PANG]: ¿Te gusta Windows XP? ¿No has tenido problemas? (Yotas, todavía
> > pensando si sí o si nó --Uupps! ¿acento diacrítico? ¿U sí, u nó?)

=============BIG ÑAC==================

===============Final de lo ya escrito==

Lani, voy a explicarme. Antes usábamos esa expresión (si sí o si nó) en
el sentido --en este caso-- de "si lo hago, o no lo hago" Lo que se me
ocurrió fue pensar que estaba acentuando el "sí" y el "nó" cuando
recientemente se había estado comentando acá acerca de que ya no se les
ponía acento diacrítico a los monosílabos... Just playing silly...

PANG===========;'';

==================

Fiesta4U2

unread,
Sep 3, 2002, 10:33:35 PM9/3/02
to
Ahora comprendo. Gracias por la explicación.

Lani =| 8-O

0 new messages