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frank

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Jan 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/16/99
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Alguien me puede aclarar la utilización de "AUN". ¿Cuándo lleva
tilde y
cuándo no?.
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The above is taken from another NG.I always thought (wrongly I think)
that a "tilde" was a accent mark that went above an N(Ñ) and an
accent,one that went above a vowel(áéíóú).Does the word "tilde" cover
the both?
Saludos
Frank
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Dkcsac

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Jan 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/17/99
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According to the Pequeño Larousse dictionary, one of the definitions of TILDE
is ACENTO. Many Spanish-speakers use it with this meaning.

El diccionario Pequeño Larousse dice que AÚN lleva tilde cuando quiere decir
TODAVÍA, or cuando sigue a la palabra que modifica. Cuando quiere decir HASTA o
INCLUSO, AUN no lleva tilde, a menos que siga a la palabra que modifica.

WordsmithH

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Jan 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/18/99
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aún = todavía
aun = hasta (even, en inglés)
untie the NOT to reply

Rolf

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Jan 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/18/99
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-- The above is taken from another NG.I always thought (wrongly I think)
-- that a "tilde" was a accent mark that went above an N(Ñ) and an
-- accent,one that went above a vowel(áéíóú).Does the word "tilde" cover
-- the both?


Tilde is the English rendering for the squiggle on top of the n for the ñ.
Tilde in Spanish is the acute accent, many people call it acento, too,
especially refering to foreign tildes like acento grave à or acento
circunflejo â.

The eñe originated when books were being hand copied, to save space, the
sound of ny was rendered using a double N, then the writers decided to
place one N on top of the other N. As you can see if you do that by hand
that the squiggle is just a fast N.

the ~ is also used on top of the vowels a and o to express a nasal N. ã and õ

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Jan 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/22/99
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Rolf wrote in message ...

>the ~ is also used on top of the vowels a and o to express a nasal N. >ã and õ

Sorry, but this is not done in Spanish. I can't speak for European Spanish, but I can for Latin American Spanish! It is true in Portuguese, though.

Dkcsac

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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Yes, the tilde (~) is used is Portuguese over nasalized A's and O's. It's also
used by linguists for the phonetic transcription of the nasalized vowels of any
language.

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