Help with signing off after a letter
David Anthony Caldarelli
Hallo,
I remember seeing in a German textbook that one can sign a letter:
Eure, David or maybe just Eure David
In the examples I saw, the letters were always to two people: eg.
Lieber Oma und Opa,
Ich liebe sich...
...
...
Eure Stephanie
So, my question is, if the letter was to only one person, do you still
sign it with Eure, or do you use something else (like Ihre maybe?).
Also, should the comma (,) be there, or not.
Any help is appreciated, and please email me as well as posting to the
newsgroup.
Eure,
David Caldarelli
Steffen Bühler
David Anthony Caldarelli wrote in message
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>
>Hallo,
>
>I remember seeing in a German textbook that one can sign a letter:
>Eure, David or maybe just Eure David
If so, the textbook is wrong. It should read "Euer David".
>
>
>In the examples I saw, the letters were always to two people: eg.
>
>Lieber Oma und Opa,
I would write "Liebe Oma und lieber Opa" here.
> Ich liebe sich...
What should that mean?
>...
>...
>
>Eure Stephanie
>
>
>So, my question is, if the letter was to only one person, do you still
>sign it with Eure, or do you use something else (like Ihre maybe?).
If only writing to Oma, Stephanie should sign with "Deine" (the singular
form). "Ihre" is used when the person is neither a friend nor a relative.
>
>Also, should the comma (,) be there, or not.
The only comma I see is after "Lieber Oma und Opa". This is right, but you
should continue without a capital letter ("ich" in that case).
If you want to put a comma after "Deine", this would be completely wrong.
>
>Any help is appreciated, and please email me as well as posting to the
>newsgroup.
>
>Eure,
>David Caldarelli
Dein Steffen
Michael Pronay
>
>The only comma I see is after "Lieber Oma und Opa".
>This is right, but you should continue without a
>capital letter ("ich" in that case).
Sorry, no. After the "Anrede" ("Dear ...",
"Liebe(r) ...") you start a new paragraph, so you
_always_ start with an upper case letter, regardless
whether you finished the "Anrede" with a "!" or a ",".
Michael
Steffen Bühler
...after the "Anrede" ("Dear ...", "Liebe(r) ...") you start a new
paragraph, so you _always_ start with an upper case letter, regardless
whether you finished the "Anrede" with a "!" or a ",".
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Dear Michael,
sorry again. The Duden clearly says (R65) that if you set a comma after the
"Anrede", you must go on with a lower case letter, if the respective word
isn't written with an upper case letter under normal circumstances (e.g.
substantives).
Best regards,
Steffen
PHOENIX HERE
I think you are remenbering wrong.
It´s wrong to write "Eure David", but
"Euer David" because the sender is masculin.
If femal, you have towrite "Eure Sarah"
So, if the letter is written to one person, you have to write "Dein David" or
"Deine Sarah"
Paul Pfalzner
Euer for a male,
and Eure for a female writer
is correct.
No comma is placed between Euer/Eure and the writer's name.
David Anthony Caldarelli <daca...@ece.uwaterloo.ca> wrote in message
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> I remember seeing in a German textbook that one can sign a letter:
> Eure, David or maybe just Eure David
with the comma, this seems short for : Der Eure, but used without the
article, it should be Euer for a male writer.
>
> In the examples I saw, the letters were always to two people: eg.
>
> Lieber Oma und Opa,
> Ich liebe sich...
This little boy/girl needs better knowledge of German.
While it may be forgivable to use the masculine Lieber in the first line
of his letter for both his Oma and Opa - better: Liebe Oma und lieber
Opa - the reflexive sich after Ich liebe shows the writer is not
familar with German - even a small child would never make this mistake.
>
> Eure Stephanie
>
> So, my question is, if the letter was to only one person, do you
still
> sign it with Eure, or do you use something else (like Ihre maybe?).
yes, Eure if a female
> Also, should the comma (,) be there, or not.
>
> Eure,
only correct for fem. or several persons signing, like Eure Nichten
Mitzi und Franzi
or Der Eure would be ok for a male writer.
> David Caldarelli
JP
Michael Pronay wrote:
> Steffen Bühler schrieb in Nachricht ...
> >
> >The only comma I see is after "Lieber Oma und Opa".
> >This is right, but you should continue without a
> >capital letter ("ich" in that case).
>
> Sorry, no. After the "Anrede" ("Dear ...",
> "Liebe(r) ...") you start a new paragraph, so you
> _always_ start with an upper case letter, regardless
> whether you finished the "Anrede" with a "!" or a ",".
>
> Michael
That's true for English but NOT for German. If you have a comma in
German you continue always without a capital letter. Only if you use a
"!", which would also be possible in German, you had to continue with a
capital letter.
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JP
David Anthony Caldarelli wrote:
Hallo,
I remember seeing in a German textbook that one can sign a letter:
Eure, David or maybe just Eure David
In the examples I saw, the letters were always to two people: eg.
Lieber Oma und Opa,
Ich liebe sich...
That must be "ich liebe Euch", I think.
...
...Eure Stephanie
So, my question is, if the letter was to only one person, do you still
sign it with Eure, or do you use something else (like Ihre maybe?).
There is so much confusing information in this thread that I thought it best to sum it all up:Also, should the comma (,) be there, or not.
Any help is appreciated, and please email me as well as posting to the
newsgroup.Eure,
David Caldarelli
The first important thing I have to say is that all this rules are only
for personal letters to people you already know quite good, especially
good friends or relatives.
You normally open such a letter with "Liebe (fem)/ Lieber (masc)/ Liebe
(pl)" +name. If you are writing to more than one person AND you list them
all by name, I would advise you to Write "Liebe(r)" every time anew, e.g.
"Lieber Hans, Liebe Grete";But "Liebe Familie Meyer". After that you can
put an exclamation mark or a comma. If you use an exclamation mark you
continue with a capital letter, if you use a comma you DON'T.
If you write to good friends you will probably use "Du" or "Ihr". These
words and the corresponding possessive pronouns (Dein/e/r ,Eure/r, Euer
etc.) can be written with a capital letter, if you use "Sie", however,
you must write a capital letter.
There is a rule that says you mustn't commence a letter with "ich"
or "wir" unless the person you are writing to is included in this "wir".
But if you are not well acquainted with the German language, I wouldn't
bother about that.
At the end of a letter, you should write something like "Alles Gute",
"Bis bald", Alles Liebe" etc. .
And then, finally, you can put "Dein"(masc/sing), "Deine" (fem/sing),
"Euer"(masc/pl), "Eure"(fem/pl) in front of your signature. By the way,
the singular or plural is used used according to the person(s) to whom
you write this letter, and NOT to the writer himself, the gender, in contrast,
according to the writer.
But I'd like to add that I, personally, wouldn't use these terms unless
I had a very close relationship to the person I write to because
it originally expresses that the addressee "possesses" the writer. That
may be a peculiarity of me, however, so you need not bother about that.
JP
Phil McComish
Hear hear Steffen!
You tell him ;o)
Phil :o)
Michael Pronay
>sorry again. The Duden clearly says (R65) that if you
>set a comma after the "Anrede", you must go on with a
>lower case letter ...
I do not own a Duden, but my Österreichisches Wörterbuch
clearly states that you are right. I stand corrected.
Michael
Michael Pronay
>
>If you have a comma in German you continue always
>without a capital letter.
True. My mistake, sorry.
Michael