9am or 9 a.m.?
Mike Clark
sould be written - not with capital letters?
TIA
Mike
Mark Brader
> Can anybody point me to a relaible source with GB English rules on
> how times sould be written - not with capital letters?
Let me just point out that this is a matter of style, and different
"reliable" sources may disagree without being wrong.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "... pure English is de rigueur"
m...@vex.net -- Guardian Weekly
Jim Lawton
>Can anybody point me to a relaible source with GB English rules on how times
>sould be written - not with capital letters?
No, but if you enter this <"9 a.m." british library> in Google, you find a whole
list of libraries - including the British Library itself, and the Bodleian in
Oxford, all using "9 am". Perhaps that helps.
--
Jim
the polymoth
Charles Riggs
>Mike Clark:
>> Can anybody point me to a relaible source with GB English rules on
>> how times sould be written - not with capital letters?
Why insist on noncapital letters? I prefer 9 AM.
>Let me just point out that this is a matter of style, and different
>"reliable" sources may disagree without being wrong.
True, but "9 a.m." looks awful nowadays.
--
Charles Riggs
Charles Riggs
That's the trend, all right. I also see a lot of "9 AM"s here and
there. "9 a.m." is dated.
--
Charles Riggs
Ross Howard
A space between the number and the "am/pm" is recommended, but the
full stops are optional and not currently in fashion in the UK -- most
(all?) of the quality papers ts-any-more seem to have done away with
them, for example.
If there are minutes involved, divide them from the hour by a colon,
like this: "9:30 am". Some styles (including *The Economist*) use the
colon even for times that are bang on the hour, e.g. "9:00 am".
Finally, if you opt do for the full-stop-less version, it's a good
idea to ensure that the space before the "am/pm" doesn't get split on
a line break (To do this with MS Word, keep Ctrl pressed while you hit
the space bar); otherwise you might get a strange result like this:
10 Downing Street has announced that tomorrow at 9
am the Prime Minister will meet representatives of....
Finally-finally -- and as always with style questions like this -- the
best advice is to tell you to check what the readers of whatever
you're writing are going to expect or are most used to, and go with
that.
--
Ross Howard
JF
<chriggs@?.net.invalid> writes
The four character format is simplest of all -- 0900. It always uses the
same amount of space, even for the small hours.
--
James Follett
Ross Howard
sent unedited, riddled with cut-and-paste detritus. Apologies.
--
Ross Howard
Don Phillipson
news:43656420$0$24651$4faf...@reader3.news.tin.it...
> Can anybody point me to a relaible source with GB English rules on how
times
> sould be written - not with capital letters?
The (London) Times probably published its own style
guide to answer questions like this. See also web
sites of Oxford or Cambridge University presses,
some academic journals, etc., besides newspapers
of record.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Peter Duncanson
wrote:
>On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:23:50 +0100, "Mike Clark" <mcl...@rimini.com>
>wrought:
>
>>Can anybody point me to a relaible source with GB English rules on how times
>>sould be written - not with capital letters?
>>TIA
>>Mike
>
>A space between the number and the "am/pm" is recommended, but the
>full stops are optional and not currently in fashion in the UK -- most
>(all?) of the quality papers ts-any-more seem to have done away with
>them, for example.
>
>If there are minutes involved, divide them from the hour by a colon,
>like this: "9:30 am". Some styles (including *The Economist*) use the
>colon even for times that are bang on the hour, e.g. "9:00 am".
The Times and the Guardian use the forms "6pm", "9am", "11.30am", and so
on. There are no spaces between the number and the "am/pm". Hours and
minutes are separated by a ".".
The minuteless form "6pm" appears to be used in narrative. However,
where time schedules are given the minutes are included.
This is the case in, for example, TV Listings:
6.00pm BBC News
6.30pm Regional News Programmes (888)
7.00pm Holiday 2006
7.30pm Inside Out
If the 24-hour clock is used there are always 4 digits in the time. For
example "00.46" (for "0.46am").
Where the context makes clear what is intended, "am" or "pm" can be
omitted. The two newspapers mentioned omit "pm" when listing the
starting times of sporting events where these are customarily "pm"
times.
>Finally, if you opt do for the full-stop-less version, it's a good
>idea to ensure that the space before the "am/pm" doesn't get split on
>a line break (To do this with MS Word, keep Ctrl pressed while you hit
>the space bar); otherwise you might get a strange result like this:
>
> 10 Downing Street has announced that tomorrow at 9
> am the Prime Minister will meet representatives of....
>
>Finally-finally -- and as always with style questions like this -- the
>best advice is to tell you to check what the readers of whatever
>you're writing are going to expect or are most used to, and go with
>that.
--
Peter Duncanson
UK (posting from a.u.e)
Jordan Abel
Then there's the packed hex format: 7E90 - though it can go to five
digits (there are, after all, 15180 seconds in a day) it also
encodes the seconds, and if you leave out the seconds you get it
down to three digits: 9am is 21C, and the day has a total of of 5a0
minutes.
Donna Richoux
> X-No-Archive: yes
> In message <jh4cm1lf16799459p...@4ax.com>, Peter Duncanson
> <ma...@peterduncanson.net> writes
>
> >The Times and the Guardian use the forms "6pm", "9am", "11.30am", and so
> >on. There are no spaces between the number and the "am/pm". Hours and
> >minutes are separated by a ".".
> >
> >The minuteless form "6pm" appears to be used in narrative. However,
> >where time schedules are given the minutes are included.
> >
> >This is the case in, for example, TV Listings:
> > 6.00pm BBC News
> > 6.30pm Regional News Programmes (888)
> > 7.00pm Holiday 2006
> > 7.30pm Inside Out
> >
> >If the 24-hour clock is used there are always 4 digits in the time. For
> >example "00.46" (for "0.46am").
>
> What's the full stop for? 0046 is much simpler.
1812, 1940, and 2005 don't give you pause?
--
Best -- Donna Richoux
ArWeGod
news:x9STu$F46eZ...@marage.demon.co.uk...
> The four character format is simplest of all -- 0900. It always uses
the
> same amount of space, even for the small hours.
Commie. Or POME.. ;-)
"9 o'clock in the morning" is the correct spelling - if you aren't a
Terrorist!
--
ArWeWordy
ArWeGod
news:8kqbm1165eofkkvmm...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:23:50 +0100, "Mike Clark" <mcl...@rimini.com>
> wrought:
>
> >Can anybody point me to a relaible source with GB English rules on
how times
> >sould be written - not with capital letters?
>
> full stops are optional and not currently in fashion in the UK -- most
> (all?) of the quality papers ts-any-more seem to have done away with
> them, for example.
>
> If there are minutes involved, divide them from the hour by a colon,
> like this: "9:30 am". Some styles (including *The Economist*) use the
> colon even for times that are bang on the hour, e.g. "9:00 am".
>
> Finally, if you opt do for the full-stop-less version, it's a good
> idea to ensure that the space before the "am/pm" doesn't get split on
> a line break (To do this with MS Word, keep Ctrl pressed while you hit
> the space bar); otherwise you might get a strange result like this:
>
> 10 Downing Street has announced that tomorrow at 9
> am the Prime Minister will meet representatives of....
This style works perfectly in "The Real World" (errr... USA), as well.
I think one could omit the space, as a word-wrap deterrent, also:
"9:00am" will not raise eyebrows or ire in Leftpondia.
--
ArWeEarly
sage
learn it?
Cheers, Sage
Jordan Abel
> If the 24-hour clock is used there are always 4 digits in the time. For
> example "00.46" (for "0.46am").
Don't you mean 12.46am? or is that strictly an americanism?
Charles Riggs
wrote:
Best of all, yes, but try to convince the man in the street of that.
--
Charles Riggs
Charles Riggs
<ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
>If the 24-hour clock is used there are always 4 digits in the time. For
>example "00.46" (for "0.46am").
In true 24-hour format, as used by the military and, increasingly so,
by others, that's 0046. You'll find some people writing 00:46 and even
00.46, but they are misguided souls.
--
Charles Riggs
Charles Riggs
wrote:
Would "the train leaves at 2005" give anyone pause? Context matters,
not that I need to tell Donna that.
--
Charles Riggs
Ross Howard
True, but it's still a tad too Op-Center for my tastes.
--
Ross Howard
Colum Mylod
>Jordan Abel wrote:
[time]
>> Then there's the packed hex format: 7E90 - though it can go to five
>> digits (there are, after all, 15180 seconds in a day) it also
>> encodes the seconds, and if you leave out the seconds you get it
>> down to three digits: 9am is 21C, and the day has a total of of 5a0
>> minutes.
>Where is this used? It looks cumbersome. Why would common folk want to
>learn it?
Target audience are the few who do the hexadecimal Soduku in the
Independent.
--
New anti-spam address cmylod at despammed dot com
Peter Duncanson
wrote:
Yes -- my mistake. 12.56am would be usual.
Mark Brader
>>> If the 24-hour clock is used there are always 4 digits in the time. For
>>> example "00.46" (for "0.46am").
>>
>> Don't you mean 12.46am? or is that strictly an americanism?
>
> Yes -- my mistake. 12.56am would be usual.
(A quiet giggle is heard coming from the back of the room.)
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Just because it's correct doesn't
m...@vex.net make it right!" -- Jonas Schlein
the Omrud
What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
--
David
=====
replace usenet with the
Laura F. Spira
You can have my copy of the free disk with the Sudoku program they gave
away if you like - then you wouldn't have to buy the paper. I prefer the
Times program - the very hard 9x9s are still a challenge.
--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
the Omrud
> the Omrud wrote:
>
> > Colum Mylod <cmy...@despammed.comREMOVE> spake thusly:
> >
> >>Target audience are the few who do the hexadecimal Soduku in the
> >>Independent.
> >
> > What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
> > abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
>
> You can have my copy of the free disk with the Sudoku program they gave
> away if you like - then you wouldn't have to buy the paper. I prefer the
> Times program - the very hard 9x9s are still a challenge.
Thanks, but there's also one on the front of this month's PC Pro (or
similar) which I haven't loaded yet. Actually, I've never essayed a
single Sudoku as I am congenitally inclined to stay away from popular
trends. But I am drawn towards anything based on hex because of my
profession.
Harvey Van Sickle
There's one on the cover disc of "Computer Shopper" as well. I've
not loaded it -- I'm a crossword sort, not a number-puzzle type, as
it seems to me that Sudokus are probably solvable in split seconds
by a relatively straightforward bit of programming.
A propos of which, here's a clue from today's Guardian crossword,
which I suspect a program would probably find more difficult to
solve:
A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
--
Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)
For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van
Peter Duncanson
>Peter Duncanson and Jordan Abel write:
>>>> If the 24-hour clock is used there are always 4 digits in the time. For
>>>> example "00.46" (for "0.46am").
>>>
>>> Don't you mean 12.46am? or is that strictly an americanism?
>>
>> Yes -- my mistake. 12.56am would be usual.
>
>(A quiet giggle is heard coming from the back of the room.)
Time marches on.
Robin Bignall
wrote:
It shouldn't be any easier or harder than standard Sudoku. A recent
article in The Times stated that the game can be based around any set
of nine different symbols. The rules stay the same - no symbol can be
used twice in any row, column or 3 by 3 grid.
--
Robin Bignall
Hoddesdon, England
R H Draney
>>abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
>
>It shouldn't be any easier or harder than standard Sudoku. A recent
>article in The Times stated that the game can be based around any set
>of nine different symbols. The rules stay the same - no symbol can be
>used twice in any row, column or 3 by 3 grid.
I now know more about the rules for this form of foolishness than I have ever
known before (the 3x3 restriction)...I trust this will not actually give me the
desire to *work* one of the damned things; OCD feeds on this sort of thing....r
Paul Wolff
<harve...@ntlworld.com> writes
>
>There's one on the cover disc of "Computer Shopper" as well. I've not
>loaded it -- I'm a crossword sort, not a number-puzzle type, as it
>seems to me that Sudokus are probably solvable in split seconds by a
>relatively straightforward bit of programming.
The only opportunity for flair is in spotting which empty square (are
they called lights?) is the next one available for solution by the
application of simple rules.
>
>A propos of which, here's a clue from today's Guardian crossword, which
>I suspect a program would probably find more difficult to solve:
>
> A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
>
I can't. Presumably an anagram of kudos and the letter "u" which I
don't derive from "anyone can see" unless "u" is alleged to be texting
code for "anyone".
--
Paul
In bocca al Lupo!
Maria Conlon
> Robin Bignall filted:
>> the Omrud wrote:
>>
>>> What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
>>> abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
>>
>> It shouldn't be any easier or harder than standard Sudoku. A recent
>> article in The Times stated that the game can be based around any set
>> of nine different symbols. The rules stay the same - no symbol can
>> be used twice in any row, column or 3 by 3 grid.
>
> I now know more about the rules for this form of foolishness than I
> have ever known before (the 3x3 restriction)...I trust this will not
> actually give me the desire to *work* one of the damned things; OCD
> feeds on this sort of thing....r
I've just recently discovered Sudokus. They run in the Detroit News
every day.
My name is Maria and I am hooked.
Laura F. Spira
The program I have - which is the one used to generate the puzzles in
the Times - also generates puzzles of any size from 4x4 to 16x16. One of
the weekend papers prints big grids which combine letters and numbers.
What I can't work out is what differentiates the really tough (standard)
ones from the easy ones: I think it has something to do with the number
repeats but it can be quite straightforward to complete a grid with one
number missing completely and really difficult when there seem to be far
fewer spaces to fill in.
It's a fascinating cultural phenomenon. These puzzles have been around
for years, as any subscriber to publications like "Games and Puzzles" in
the US or "Tough Puzzles" in the UK knows. Their sudden popularity is
remarkable.
Harvey Van Sickle
re: crossword clue
>> A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
>>
> I can't. Presumably an anagram of kudos and the letter "u"
> which I don't derive from "anyone can see" unless "u" is
> alleged to be texting code for "anyone".
It's older than texting -- it's clueing for "universal", as in a U-
joint.
ArWeGod
news:sMW9f.3323$Lv....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
> R H Draney wrote:
> > Robin Bignall filted:
> >> the Omrud wrote:
> >>> What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
> >>> abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
> >> It shouldn't be any easier or harder than standard Sudoku. A
recent
> >> article in The Times stated that the game can be based around any
set
> >> of nine different symbols. The rules stay the same - no symbol can
> >> be used twice in any row, column or 3 by 3 grid.
Yes, but that wouldn't be very nice.
> > I now know more about the rules for this form of foolishness than I
> > have ever known before (the 3x3 restriction)...I trust this will not
> > actually give me the desire to *work* one of the damned things; OCD
> > feeds on this sort of thing....
There's a point where you get the hang of the thing. Hand made puzzles
are better / harder ("evil" level) than just random puzzles.
I have considered a game for the Palm OS, but I don't think a random
computer driven puzzle is any fun, since I have done some that are just
stupid. But I have considered making a program to let you put a
newspaper puzzle into a kind of "notepad" puzzle tool so you can undo
and check for wrong moves and stuff. A puzzle editor, if you will.
I just don't know if it would sell at all, since paper is cheap. And my
idea doesn't involve actually providing a game, which all the other ones
do...
Let me know if this seems at all interesting - you would have to put the
puzzle in yourself, mind. But I would let you save a current puzzle and
beam one to another person.
> My name is Maria and I am hooked.
My name is ArWePainful and I would like to help cause your pain. And I
will build you a tool to make your pain easier to achieve, if you will
pay me $10.
--
ArWePainful
Donna Richoux
> trends. But I am drawn towards anything based on hex because of my
> profession.
Witch profession?
the Omrud
No, I don't do that any more (anymore), since the trouble with the
goat.
The evening of October 31st being of little importance in my UK
upbringing, and having returned from holiday in Greece less than 24
hours before, we were unprepared for the hordes of tiny and less-tiny
children who descended on us from tea time onwards on Monday, making
vague threats of criminal damage. We happened to have a dozen
Penguins, but once these were exhausted, we had to go out for the
rest of the evening to avoid the little monsters.
Rather than reenact a wholesome family festival from the US, the UK
child buys a plastic face mask for 50p, pulls his hoodie over his
head and then demands chocolate with menaces. I wouldn't mind the
full thing, but we seem to have created a watered-down and
meaningless form which our culture simply doesn't recognise.
</rant>
Mike Lyle
[...]
> It's a fascinating cultural phenomenon. These puzzles have been
around
> for years, as any subscriber to publications like "Games and
Puzzles"
> in the US or "Tough Puzzles" in the UK knows. Their sudden
popularity
> is remarkable.
Now try the latest cranium-cracking craze from the Land of the Rising
Sun:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1606409,00.html
--
Mike.
the Omrud
It looks very fiendish, and I don't have time to study it to the
required level, but I feel that it's probably based on binary, rather
than hex.
ArWeGod
news:MPG.1dd2c50e1...@news.ntlworld.com...
Rising
> > Sun:
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1606409,00.html
>
"So simple a cat can play it, but only a genius can truly understand it"
Well.. I was getting bored with Soduku, as I was writting a Palm
version. You could tell the hand-crafted puzzles from the randomly
generated ones. I have not seen these, but they sound... fun. Play
me...?
--
ArWePlayful
Linz
> the Omrud wrote:
>> What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
>> abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
>>
>
> You can have my copy of the free disk with the Sudoku program they
> gave away if you like - then you wouldn't have to buy the paper. I
> prefer the Times program - the very hard 9x9s are still a challenge.
For 9x9 Sudoku I tend to go to www.websudoku.com - the Evil ones are pretty
challenging.
Laura F. Spira
Isn't that brilliant? I think Tim Dowling is excellent.
Mark Brader
>>> A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
Paul Wolff comments:
>> Presumably an anagram of kudos and the letter "u"
>> which I don't derive from "anyone can see" unless "u" is
>> alleged to be texting code for "anyone".
Harvey Van Sickle explains:
> It's older than texting -- it's clueing for "universal", as in a U-
> joint.
Oh! No, "U = Universal" as in the British equivalent of a G-rated movie.
One that "anyone can see", get it?
--
Mark Brader | "We may take pride in observing that there is
Toronto | not a single film showing in London today which
m...@vex.net | deals with one of the burning issues of the day."
| -- Lord Tyrell, British film censors' chief, 1937
sage
closer to getting an answer to my original question.
Cheers, Sage (FWIW: There's also a sodutoo in The Globe and Mail.)
the Omrud
> the Omrud wrote:
>
> > Thanks, but there's also one on the front of this month's PC Pro (or
> > similar) which I haven't loaded yet. Actually, I've never essayed a
> > single Sudoku as I am congenitally inclined to stay away from popular
> > trends. But I am drawn towards anything based on hex because of my
> > profession.
> >
> So what's your profession? If you tell me that, then I'll be a step
> closer to getting an answer to my original question.
It's not a secret - I didn't repeat it because I've so often
commented on it here. I am a grown-up IT techie - what is called in
the industry an "enterprise IT architect". I have the responsibility
for the design of the interworking of all the IT components for a
large multinational company which itself happens to sell IT services
(this fact causes me the vast majority of my working day problems).
But 30 years ago I was a mainframe application developer - that is, I
created and ran mainframe computer systems for large scale business
use, such as stock control, payroll, general ledgers. I started out
as a mainframe programmer (there were no PCs 30 years ago).
The mainframes on which I worked didn't use the ASCII which is
familiar on the net, but the hexadecimal equivalent. For more than a
decade, I worked in hex representation of binary. So, to answer your
question, ordinary people don't need to know hex, but mainframe
programmers do.
Paul Wolff
<m...@vex.net> writes
>Harvey Van Sickle quotes:
>>>> A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
>
>Paul Wolff comments:
>>> Presumably an anagram of kudos and the letter "u"
>>> which I don't derive from "anyone can see" unless "u" is
>>> alleged to be texting code for "anyone".
>
>Harvey Van Sickle explains:
>> It's older than texting -- it's clueing for "universal", as in a U-
>> joint.
>
>Oh! No, "U = Universal" as in the British equivalent of a G-rated movie.
>One that "anyone can see", get it?
IC2, now.
sage
computers ran on valves -- AmE toobs), I worked for IBM on the
engineering side, not as a programmer. Mercifully for both Big Blue and
me, I decided we were not a perfect match and found alternative employment.
Cheers, Sage
sage
Cheers, Sage
Ross Howard
<boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrought:
Separately having to clue a letter left over from a near anagram
should tell a crossword compiler one thing: forget about anagrams and
do it some other way.
And that was in the Guardian? Good grief. The rot truly has set in.
--
Ross Howard
R H Draney
And there are no non-Evil ones...OCD, remember?...r
Maria Conlon
> And yes, I caught the its for it's but too late to stop transmission.
In your reply? Where? (I saw only a correct "its," but that doesn't mean
anything. I can read right over errors with no effort at all.)
--
Maria Conlon
Sara Lorimer
> For 9x9 Sudoku I tend to go to www.websudoku.com - the Evil ones are pretty
> challenging.
So much for my chances of ever getting any work done...
--
SML
Mark Brader
>>>>>> A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
Ross Howard writes:
> Separately having to clue
You mean "Having to separately clue".
> a letter left over from a near anagram should tell a crossword
> compiler one thing: forget about anagrams and do it some other way.
An odd comment. This sort of construction is perfectly normal.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "No victor believes in chance."
m...@vex.net -- Nietzsche (trans. Kaufmann)
Ross Howard
>Harvey Van Sickle quotes:
>>>>>>> A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
>
>Ross Howard writes:
>> Separately having to clue
>
>You mean "Having to separately clue".
>
>> a letter left over from a near anagram should tell a crossword
>> compiler one thing: forget about anagrams and do it some other way.
>
>An odd comment. This sort of construction is perfectly normal.
In The Guardian crossword?
--
Ross Howard
Mark Brader
> > An odd comment. This sort of construction is perfectly normal.
> In The Guardian crossword?
In properly run crosswords.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | ... "reasonable system" is of course defined as
m...@vex.net | "any one *I've* ever used..." -- Steve Summit
sage
were kind enough to get me off the hook.
Thanks.
Cheers, Sage
Paul Wolff
<m...@vex.net> writes
>Mark Brader:
>> > An odd comment. This sort of construction is perfectly normal.
>
>Ross Howard:
>> In The Guardian crossword?
>
>In properly run crosswords.
It is in the acceptable zone, given that the "u" being clued by the
subsequent phrase was suffix to the anagram. But it wasn't an elegant
clue.
--
Paul
Litterati certant et adhuc sub iudice lis est.
Ross Howard
<boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrought:
>In message <11mjjv0...@corp.supernews.com>, Mark Brader
><m...@vex.net> writes
>>Mark Brader:
>>> > An odd comment. This sort of construction is perfectly normal.
>>
>>Ross Howard:
>>> In The Guardian crossword?
>>
>>In properly run crosswords.
>
>It is in the acceptable zone, given that the "u" being clued by the
>subsequent phrase was suffix to the anagram. But it wasn't an elegant
>clue.
I should stress I'm not against partially clued internal anagrams, but
-- call me a traditionalist -- to me an anagram plus just one stray
letter left over isn't an internal anagram, it's a failed anagram.
--
Ross Howard
Jordan Abel
> On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:35:27 GMT, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Colum Mylod <cmy...@despammed.comREMOVE> spake thusly:
>>
>>>
>>> >Jordan Abel wrote:
>>> [time]
>>> >> Then there's the packed hex format: 7E90 - though it can go to five
>>> >> digits (there are, after all, 15180 seconds in a day) it also
>>> >> encodes the seconds, and if you leave out the seconds you get it
>>> >> down to three digits: 9am is 21C, and the day has a total of of 5a0
>>> >> minutes.
>>> >Where is this used? It looks cumbersome. Why would common folk want to
>>> >learn it?
>>>
>>> Target audience are the few who do the hexadecimal Soduku in the
>>> Independent.
>>
>>What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
>>abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
>
> article in The Times stated that the game can be based around any set
> of nine different symbols. The rules stay the same - no symbol can be
> used twice in any row, column or 3 by 3 grid.
My guess at hearing "hex sudoku" was of 4x4 grids and 16 symbols.
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Harrison Hill
> RAMMlLAN
That is a 12yr old thread you are replying to. 9.00am, he says,
replying to himself :)