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Padraig Breathnach

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Apr 28, 2002, 6:05:55 PM4/28/02
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[These are draft minutes, submitted for the general information of
Members in Good Standing (MIGS) of AUE but, more particularly, so that
Members Present at the Boink may advise the Recording Secretary how
they think he got it wrong. It does not follow that the opinions of
Members Present will lead to any change in the Minutes. Truth is more
important than accuracy.]

The Dublin Boink was held at the Stag's Head and other locations on
Saturday, 27 April 2002.

Present
(a) in person: Mike Barnes; Garry J. Vass; Natti: PB
(b) by telephone: Maria Conlon; Laura F Spira
Apologies: Charles Riggs; zadne

Decisions were made on a number of matters relating to the
constitution of AUE. It was agreed that disclosure of these decisions
would not be in the best interests of the general membership. The
assent of The Committee to the revised arrangements has been secured,
and they are now operative. The publication of these minutes in the
group shall be deemed to be sufficient notice of the changes.

It was noted that the general membership has lost its way on the
on-topicality of sheep. [Over to ewe, folks.]

The current absence of a number of esteemed members was noted, and the
hope was expressed that at least some of them might resume posting. No
recommendations were made about which currently-active posters might
improve the mean quality of contributions to the group by posting
less.

Inconclusive discussion took place on a number of items: writing
books; trading in derivitatives; maintenance of FAQs; French vs. New
World wines. [Recording Secretary's observation: each individual
contribution to discussion was, of course, definitive at the time it
was uttered.]

Agreed: that it is a bad idea to dine at a restaurant where service is
slow when one is in a hurry.

Agreed: that the "Bad Ass Burger" is worth ordering solely for its
name, and that any enjoyment derived from eating it is a bonus.

Agreed: that it is generally inefficient to walk one mile south to get
a taxi to a destination which is one mile north of one's starting
place.

Proposed to the Group: that it is time for a boink in Manchester.

The stipend of the non-remunerated Boink Secretary has been doubled.
He herewith applies for payment.

PB

Simon R. Hughes

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Apr 28, 2002, 7:57:09 PM4/28/02
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Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:

I will decode this message for the uninitiated:

[...]

> The Dublin Boink was held at the Stag's Head and other locations on
> Saturday, 27 April 2002.
>
> Present
> (a) in person: Mike Barnes; Garry J. Vass; Natti: PB
> (b) by telephone: Maria Conlon; Laura F Spira

Four people met in the pub, taking turns on the mobile phone while
waiting for the others...

> Apologies: Charles Riggs; zadne

... who didn't turn up.

[snipped delusions of grandeur]



> It was noted that the general membership has lost its way on the
> on-topicality of sheep. [Over to ewe, folks.]

The boink was really an excuse for the Axis of Sheep-Shaggers to get
together.

> The current absence of a number of esteemed members was noted, and the
> hope was expressed that at least some of them might resume posting. No
> recommendations were made about which currently-active posters might
> improve the mean quality of contributions to the group by posting
> less.

The first fifteen people on Bob's posting list should just shut the
fuck up, and perhaps Brian will return.

> Inconclusive discussion took place on a number of items: writing
> books; trading in derivitatives; maintenance of FAQs; French vs. New
> World wines. [Recording Secretary's observation: each individual
> contribution to discussion was, of course, definitive at the time it
> was uttered.]

The boinkers had to listen to Garry for hours.

> Agreed: that it is a bad idea to dine at a restaurant where service is
> slow when one is in a hurry.

The restuarant forgot about them.

> Agreed: that the "Bad Ass Burger" is worth ordering solely for its
> name, and that any enjoyment derived from eating it is a bonus.

So they went to some down-market burger joint that sold rotten
donkey meat.

> Agreed: that it is generally inefficient to walk one mile south to get
> a taxi to a destination which is one mile north of one's starting
> place.

They had consumed so much alcohol that they becamed disorient(at)ed.
So they took a cab.

> Proposed to the Group: that it is time for a boink in Manchester.

Dublin can be confusing when you're pissed; Manchester must be
better, since most of its inhabitants are constantly pissed.

> The stipend of the non-remunerated Boink Secretary has been doubled.
> He herewith applies for payment.

Padraig coughed up for the cab and everyone else "forgot" to pay him
back. He is upset, and is demanding repayment with interest.
--
Simon R. Hughes

Laura F Spira

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Apr 29, 2002, 2:24:04 AM4/29/02
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The problem with telephonic participation is that one's contribution
does not get minuted. Garry repeated "suggest" a sufficient number of
times for me to be convinced that the odd hard/soft combination could be
a standard US pronunciation and I then committed myself to a programme
of empirical research among my fellow conference delegates. Sadly, I
have to report that I was distracted by intellectually stimulating
conversation, strong drink and loud music. By the time I remembered my
task there were only members of the French, Russian, Czech and Albanian
delegations left on the dance floor.


--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)

Garry J. Vass

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Apr 29, 2002, 7:57:34 AM4/29/02
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"Padraig Breathnach" <padr...@iol.ie> wrote in message
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>
> Agreed: that it is generally inefficient to walk one mile south to get
> a taxi to a destination which is one mile north of one's starting
> place.
>

And one small itemlet that appears to have gone unrecorded is that my long
standing supposition that Lars Eighner was far and away the handsomest male
in the aue crowd was successfully challenged. Not successfully overturned,
but successfully challenged. Mike has the pix...


> Proposed to the Group: that it is time for a boink in Manchester.
>

This is a great idea!

> The stipend of the non-remunerated Boink Secretary has been doubled.
> He herewith applies for payment.

This request should be taken up the European Special Executive Very
High-Level Subcommittee on Remuneration Within the EC so they can euronate
upon it.


Padraig Breathnach

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Apr 29, 2002, 10:01:27 AM4/29/02
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Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:

>Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:
>
>I will decode this message for the uninitiated:
>

A wonderful piece of interpretation, except for the bits where you
said anything.


>[...]
>
>> The Dublin Boink was held at the Stag's Head and other locations on
>> Saturday, 27 April 2002.
>>
>> Present
>> (a) in person: Mike Barnes; Garry J. Vass; Natti: PB
>> (b) by telephone: Maria Conlon; Laura F Spira
>
>Four people met in the pub, taking turns on the mobile phone while
>waiting for the others...
>
>> Apologies: Charles Riggs; zadne
>
>... who didn't turn up.
>

But who were sorry not to. Or at least claimed to be.

>[snipped delusions of grandeur]
>
Oh dear. The Committee will not be pleased with you. Walk under the
lights; look frequently over your shoulder; always sit with your back
to the wall.

The Dublin Boink Committee, on the other hand, don't give a monkey's.
We are above such things.

>> It was noted that the general membership has lost its way on the
>> on-topicality of sheep. [Over to ewe, folks.]
>
>The boink was really an excuse for the Axis of Sheep-Shaggers to get
>together.
>

Off-target. I am too honourable to shag a sheep and then eat Irish
Stew. Or maybe squeamish. "Will you still love me tomorrow?" "Yes,
dear, with mint sauce." So much for fleecing passion.

>> The current absence of a number of esteemed members was noted, and the
>> hope was expressed that at least some of them might resume posting. No
>> recommendations were made about which currently-active posters might
>> improve the mean quality of contributions to the group by posting
>> less.
>
>The first fifteen people on Bob's posting list should just shut the
>fuck up, and perhaps Brian will return.
>

We were too kindly-disposed to express a view that anybody should shut
the fuck up. You noted Bob's list carefully: you are in the first
fifteen; three of the boink attenders are listed between 16 and 27.

>> Inconclusive discussion took place on a number of items: writing
>> books; trading in derivitatives; maintenance of FAQs; French vs. New
>> World wines. [Recording Secretary's observation: each individual
>> contribution to discussion was, of course, definitive at the time it
>> was uttered.]
>
>The boinkers had to listen to Garry for hours.
>

And he to us. You should know by now that I have opinions on
everything, and a conviction that the world needs to know what I
think. Do I need to explain this to you?

>> Agreed: that it is a bad idea to dine at a restaurant where service is
>> slow when one is in a hurry.
>
>The restuarant forgot about them.
>

The restaurant in question is, in my opinion, the best steakhouse in
Dublin. Had Charles been with us, we might have gone there to convince
him that it is possible to have a good steak in Ireland. We eschewed
it, because of time constraints, in favour of the best pizzeria in
Dublin: The Bad Ass. (Clue there about the naming of the burger).

>> Agreed: that the "Bad Ass Burger" is worth ordering solely for its
>> name, and that any enjoyment derived from eating it is a bonus.
>
>So they went to some down-market burger joint that sold rotten
>donkey meat.
>

Middle-market. The server was interrogated about the burger's name,
and explained that if you ate too many of them your ass grows out of
proportion. Some of us no longer have concerns about such outcomes.

>> Agreed: that it is generally inefficient to walk one mile south to get
>> a taxi to a destination which is one mile north of one's starting
>> place.
>
>They had consumed so much alcohol that they becamed disorient(at)ed.
>So they took a cab.
>

We didn't need alcohol to become disoriented. We started with our
natural talent for confusion.

>> Proposed to the Group: that it is time for a boink in Manchester.
>
>Dublin can be confusing when you're pissed; Manchester must be
>better, since most of its inhabitants are constantly pissed.
>

We also thought it a more convenient location than Tromso.

>> The stipend of the non-remunerated Boink Secretary has been doubled.
>> He herewith applies for payment.
>
>Padraig coughed up for the cab and everyone else "forgot" to pay him
>back. He is upset, and is demanding repayment with interest.
>

I am far to worldly-wise to be caught like that. But if anybody wants
to repay me with interest, I would consider it ungentlemanly to point
out that I am not owed anything.

PB

Padraig Breathnach

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Apr 29, 2002, 10:03:11 AM4/29/02
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"Garry J. Vass" <ga...@totally-official.com> wrote:

>And one small itemlet that appears to have gone unrecorded is that my long
>standing supposition that Lars Eighner was far and away the handsomest male
>in the aue crowd was successfully challenged. Not successfully overturned,
>but successfully challenged. Mike has the pix...
>

Modesty forbids ...

PB

Bob Cunningham

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Apr 29, 2002, 11:22:29 AM4/29/02
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:01:27 GMT, Padraig Breathnach <padr...@iol.ie>
said:

>Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:
>
>>Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:
>>
>>I will decode this message for the uninitiated:
>>
>A wonderful piece of interpretation, except for the bits where you
>said anything.
>>[...]

I recommend that the Committee enshrine Padraig's report on the Dublin
boink as one of the all-time great classics of AUE posting.

Of course we'll never know about it if they do, because we must respect
their right to keep their deliberations private.

Simon R. Hughes

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Apr 29, 2002, 11:29:48 AM4/29/02
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Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:

> Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:
>
> >Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:
> >
> >I will decode this message for the uninitiated:
> >
> A wonderful piece of interpretation, except for the bits where you
> said anything.
> >[...]
> >
> >> The Dublin Boink was held at the Stag's Head and other locations on
> >> Saturday, 27 April 2002.

[...]

> >> It was noted that the general membership has lost its way on the
> >> on-topicality of sheep. [Over to ewe, folks.]
> >
> >The boink was really an excuse for the Axis of Sheep-Shaggers to get
> >together.
> >
> Off-target. I am too honourable to shag a sheep and then eat Irish
> Stew. Or maybe squeamish. "Will you still love me tomorrow?" "Yes,
> dear, with mint sauce." So much for fleecing passion.

Getting back on topic, is it common/ acceptable to eat Irish stew
with mint sauce?

> >> The current absence of a number of esteemed members was noted, and the
> >> hope was expressed that at least some of them might resume posting. No
> >> recommendations were made about which currently-active posters might
> >> improve the mean quality of contributions to the group by posting
> >> less.
> >
> >The first fifteen people on Bob's posting list should just shut the
> >fuck up, and perhaps Brian will return.
> >
> We were too kindly-disposed to express a view that anybody should shut
> the fuck up. You noted Bob's list carefully: you are in the first
> fifteen; three of the boink attenders are listed between 16 and 27.

I remembered this morning, during a quiet time, that Brian is
(still!) higher than most of us; he couldn't return if the first
fifteen shut up.


> >> Inconclusive discussion took place on a number of items: writing
> >> books; trading in derivitatives; maintenance of FAQs; French vs. New
> >> World wines. [Recording Secretary's observation: each individual
> >> contribution to discussion was, of course, definitive at the time it
> >> was uttered.]
> >
> >The boinkers had to listen to Garry for hours.
> >
> And he to us. You should know by now that I have opinions on
> everything, and a conviction that the world needs to know what I
> think. Do I need to explain this to you?

I won't try to stop you.

[...]

> >> Agreed: that it is generally inefficient to walk one mile south to get
> >> a taxi to a destination which is one mile north of one's starting
> >> place.
> >
> >They had consumed so much alcohol that they becamed disorient(at)ed.
> >So they took a cab.
> >
> We didn't need alcohol to become disoriented. We started with our
> natural talent for confusion.
>
> >> Proposed to the Group: that it is time for a boink in Manchester.
> >
> >Dublin can be confusing when you're pissed; Manchester must be
> >better, since most of its inhabitants are constantly pissed.
> >
> We also thought it a more convenient location than Tromso.

Not to mention cheaper. How would you like to pay 45 NOK (~4.50 USD)
for half a litre of pilsner? (Murphy's is available, but even more
expensive, as an import.)
--
Simon R. Hughes

Padraig Breathnach

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Apr 29, 2002, 12:22:29 PM4/29/02
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Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:

>Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:

>> Off-target. I am too honourable to shag a sheep and then eat Irish


>> Stew. Or maybe squeamish. "Will you still love me tomorrow?" "Yes,
>> dear, with mint sauce." So much for fleecing passion.
>
>Getting back on topic, is it common/ acceptable to eat Irish stew
>with mint sauce?
>

Not common, although I have mint sauce offered in restaurants as an
accompaniment to Irish Stew. Not, in my view, a good idea. I might
have written more accurately if I mentioned potatoes, onions, and
carrots. But I went for a succinct formulation which has the cosiness
of being an old joke.

>> We were too kindly-disposed to express a view that anybody should shut
>> the fuck up. You noted Bob's list carefully: you are in the first
>> fifteen; three of the boink attenders are listed between 16 and 27.
>
>I remembered this morning, during a quiet time, that Brian is
>(still!) higher than most of us; he couldn't return if the first
>fifteen shut up.
>

We need a number of people to make thousands of posts each. Then we
can look again at your idea. In about five years' time.

...


>> And he to us. You should know by now that I have opinions on
>> everything, and a conviction that the world needs to know what I
>> think. Do I need to explain this to you?
>
>I won't try to stop you.
>
...

Wise. It would be more like Canute with the tide than the boy with his
finger in the dyke. [Please do look for double entendre; there is
none; okay?]

>> We also thought it a more convenient location than Tromso.
>
>Not to mention cheaper. How would you like to pay 45 NOK (~4.50 USD)
>for half a litre of pilsner? (Murphy's is available, but even more
>expensive, as an import.)
>

But we can bring duty-free in with us, and drink in the park. If the
police are not looking.

ObAUNorwegian: should I have gone rooting through my character set to
find "ø" or somesuch?

PB

Geoff Butler

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Apr 29, 2002, 5:01:14 PM4/29/02
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Garry J. Vass <ga...@totally-official.com> wrote
>
>> Proposed to the Group: that it is time for a boink in Manchester.
>
>This is a great idea!

Except that we don't seem to be hearing much from the Manchester crew
these days. Linz? A Mike?

-ler

Padraig Breathnach

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Apr 29, 2002, 6:04:29 PM4/29/02
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Geoff Butler <ge...@gbutler.demon.co.uk> wrote:

They might be shaken out of somnolence by a worthwhile boink project.

PB

Simon R. Hughes

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Apr 30, 2002, 4:23:49 AM4/30/02
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Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:

> Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:
> >Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:

[...]

> >Getting back on topic, is it common/ acceptable to eat Irish stew
> >with mint sauce?
> >
> Not common, although I have mint sauce offered in restaurants as an
> accompaniment to Irish Stew.

Typo, or do you own a number of restaurants?

> Not, in my view, a good idea.

[...]

> Do I need to explain this to you?
> >
> >I won't try to stop you.
> >
> ...
> Wise. It would be more like Canute with the tide than the boy with his
> finger in the dyke. [Please do look for double entendre; there is
> none; okay?]

An invitation to find a _double entendre_ (it should still be
italicised, no?), and then a denial that there is one to be found.
No wonder it took me so long to reply.



> >> We also thought it a more convenient location than Tromso.
> >
> >Not to mention cheaper. How would you like to pay 45 NOK (~4.50 USD)
> >for half a litre of pilsner? (Murphy's is available, but even more
> >expensive, as an import.)
> >
> But we can bring duty-free in with us, and drink in the park. If the
> police are not looking.

You're not going to be allowed more than a litre of spirits and a
litre of wine before customs will want their bit.


> ObAUNorwegian: should I have gone rooting through my character set to
> find "ø" or somesuch?

Yes. Tromsø. ("Ø" is rather an old-fashioned word for "island",
retained only in names. The modern word is "øy".)
--
Simon R. Hughes

Padraig Breathnach

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Apr 30, 2002, 5:34:41 AM4/30/02
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Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:

>Thus Spake Padraig Breathnach:
>> Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote:
>
>> >Getting back on topic, is it common/ acceptable to eat Irish stew
>> >with mint sauce?
>> >
>> Not common, although I have mint sauce offered in restaurants as an
>> accompaniment to Irish Stew.
>
>Typo, or do you own a number of restaurants?
>

If I owned any restaurant, I would not offer mint sauce with Irish
Stew. I lost my "seen".

...
>> Wise. It would be more like Canute with the tide than the boy with his
>> finger in the dyke. [Please do look for double entendre; there is
>> none; okay?]
>
>An invitation to find a _double entendre_ (it should still be
>italicised, no?), and then a denial that there is one to be found.
>No wonder it took me so long to reply.
>

Another word inadvertently dropped.

I must scrabble about and collect all my dropped words. I might be
able to combine them into something interesting.



>> >> We also thought it a more convenient location than Tromso.
>> >
>> >Not to mention cheaper. How would you like to pay 45 NOK (~4.50 USD)
>> >for half a litre of pilsner? (Murphy's is available, but even more
>> >expensive, as an import.)
>> >
>> But we can bring duty-free in with us, and drink in the park. If the
>> police are not looking.
>
>You're not going to be allowed more than a litre of spirits and a
>litre of wine before customs will want their bit.
>

That'll do for me. There's no limit on coffee.

PB

Garry J. Vass

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Apr 30, 2002, 7:01:40 AM4/30/02
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"Simon R. Hughes" <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote in message
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>
> Yes. Tromsø. ("Ø" is rather an old-fashioned word for "island",
> retained only in names. The modern word is "øy".)

To pronounce it would be something like "IRya"?


Simon R. Hughes

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Apr 30, 2002, 6:48:12 PM4/30/02
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Thus Spake Garry J. Vass:

Mrs Hughes, under the premature impression that we will be moving
some time this summer, has taken it upon herself to start packing.
The first things to disappear were all my books. I don't have the
descriptions of the vowels memorised, and so have to resort to an
ad-hoc system.

"Øy" = "island" = the initial vowel of "early" in a non-rhotic
dialect, diphthongised with the German "ü".

"Øya" = "the island" = the above followed by a syllabic schwaa.

"Tromsø" = the name of the town I live in = /'troms.@/ (The
Norwegian vowels are closer to the cardinal values as described by
Daniel Jones than their British counterparts.)
--
Simon R. Hughes

Truly Donovan

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May 2, 2002, 2:23:47 AM5/2/02
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>Padraig Breathnach allegedly wrote:

>> The
>> assent of The Committee to the revised arrangements has been secured,
>> and they are now operative.

And we have a lovely bridge from lower Manhattan to Brooklyn
for sale, too.

--
Truly Donovan
http://www.trulydonovan.net
*Winslow's Wife* (fall 2002)
*Chandler's Daughter* (200)

Padraig Breathnach

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May 2, 2002, 4:44:11 AM5/2/02
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Truly Donovan <tru...@attglobal.net> wrote:

>>Padraig Breathnach allegedly wrote:
>
>>> The
>>> assent of The Committee to the revised arrangements has been secured,
>>> and they are now operative.
>
>And we have a lovely bridge from lower Manhattan to Brooklyn
>for sale, too.

Careful, Truly! You of all people should know that one should not mock
decisions of The Committee.

Why was your newsfeed so much reduced recently?

PB

Geoff Butler

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May 2, 2002, 7:25:27 AM5/2/02
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Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote
>Thus Spake Garry J. Vass:
>> "Simon R. Hughes" <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.173872db...@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
>> >
>> > Yes. Tromsø. ("Ø" is rather an old-fashioned word for "island",
>> > retained only in names. The modern word is "øy".)
>>
>> To pronounce it would be something like "IRya"?
>
>Mrs Hughes, under the premature impression that we will be moving
>some time this summer, has taken it upon herself to start packing.
>The first things to disappear were all my books. I don't have the
>descriptions of the vowels memorised, and so have to resort to an
>ad-hoc system.
>
>"Øy" = "island" = the initial vowel of "early" in a non-rhotic
>dialect, diphthongised with the German "ü".

cf '-ay' in names in the Orkneys and Shetlands, 'eye' occasionally in
names, and 'eyot' and 'ait'.

-ler

Simon R. Hughes

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May 2, 2002, 9:41:01 AM5/2/02
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Thus Spake Geoff Butler:

> Simon R. Hughes <shu...@tromso.online.no> wrote

[...]

> >"Øy" = "island" = the initial vowel of "early" in a non-rhotic
> >dialect, diphthongised with the German "ü".
>
> cf '-ay' in names in the Orkneys and Shetlands, 'eye' occasionally in
> names, and 'eyot' and 'ait'.

The Orkneys are called "Orknøyene" in Norwegian.

Also, little bit of trivia. I should have written it up and tried to
flog it to a British newspaper when I saw it; of course I can't find
anything about it any more.

Earlier this year, a Norwegian parliamentary committee discussed the
possibility of buying the Shetlands back from Britain, at the
orginal price plus a thousand years' interest. The final figure
would have been something like 350 million Kroner (~30 million GBP).
The committee rejected suggestions of bringing the motion before the
parliament, since they considered it ridiculous to imagine that
Britain would sell its fishing rights and oil in the area for so
little.
--
Simon R. Hughes

Truly Donovan

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May 2, 2002, 5:56:17 PM5/2/02
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On Thu, 02 May 2002 08:44:11 GMT, Padraig Breathnach
<padr...@iol.ie> wrote:

>Truly Donovan <tru...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>>Padraig Breathnach allegedly wrote:
>>
>>>> The
>>>> assent of The Committee to the revised arrangements has been secured,
>>>> and they are now operative.
>>
>>And we have a lovely bridge from lower Manhattan to Brooklyn
>>for sale, too.
>
>Careful, Truly! You of all people should know that one should not mock
>decisions of The Committee.

*I'm* not the one who has to be careful here.


>
>Why was your newsfeed so much reduced recently?

Beats the hell out of me.

--
Truly Donovan
http://www.trulydonovan.net
*Winslow's Wife* (fall 2002)

*Chandler's Daughter* (2000)

Robert Bannister

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May 2, 2002, 7:39:33 PM5/2/02
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Geoff Butler wrote:

And '-ey' or '-ea' in lots of English place names, although this can
have another meaning which I've temporarily forgotten - meadow? river?


--
Rob Bannister

Garry J. Vass

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May 3, 2002, 2:56:28 AM5/3/02
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"Robert Bannister" <rob...@it.net.au> wrote in message
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>
> And '-ey' or '-ea' in lots of English place names, although this can
> have another meaning which I've temporarily forgotten - meadow? river?
>

The British Archaeology Society magazine ran an article about the "ea/ey"
logotherm which runs from the Thames estuary to Wiltshire. They suggested
that the "ea/ey" place-name suffix had multiple etymologies: "promontory"
(OE "eg", "ek"); "place near running water" (OMG "au"); and "island in
river" (OE "ea").


Mike Barnes

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May 8, 2002, 6:59:22 AM5/8/02
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In alt-usage-english, Padraig Breathnach <padr...@iol.ie> writes

>The Dublin Boink was held at the Stag's Head and other locations on
>Saturday, 27 April 2002.

There's a new page at the AUE web site...

http://alt-usage-english.org/dublin_apr2002.html

... containing a pointer to this thread and some pictures.

--
Mike Barnes
Webmaster, http://alt-usage-english.org/

Tony Cooper

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May 8, 2002, 12:36:42 PM5/8/02
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"Mike Barnes" <webm...@alt-usage-english.org> wrote in message
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| In alt-usage-english, Padraig Breathnach <padr...@iol.ie> writes
| >The Dublin Boink was held at the Stag's Head and other locations on
| >Saturday, 27 April 2002.
|
| There's a new page at the AUE web site...
|
| http://alt-usage-english.org/dublin_apr2002.html
|
| ... containing a pointer to this thread and some pictures.

Nice pix. I'm sorry, but who is "Natti"? I thought the references to
Natti were references to Matti and it was an in-joke. Matti is male,
is he not? Natti is definitely not male, and I say that in a most
complimentary way. I'm thoroughly confused.


--
Tony Cooper aka: Tony_Co...@Yahoo.com
Provider of Jots & Tittles

Mike Barnes

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May 8, 2002, 1:20:54 PM5/8/02
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In alt-usage-english article <abbk0o$gqvgd$1...@ID-113505.news.dfncis.de>,
Tony Cooper <tony_co...@yahoo.com> writes

It's no joke, she's real, and Google finds some AUE postings with her
name on them. Matti and Natti both appear in the gallery, where the
gender difference is as clear as anyone could reasonably expect it to
be.

The person behind the camera knows more than I do.

Bob Cunningham

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May 8, 2002, 6:44:30 PM5/8/02
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On Wed, 8 May 2002 18:20:54 +0100, Mike Barnes
<webm...@alt-usage-english.org> said:

> In alt-usage-english article <abbk0o$gqvgd$1...@ID-113505.news.dfncis.de>,
> Tony Cooper <tony_co...@yahoo.com> writes

[ . . . ]

> >Nice pix. I'm sorry, but who is "Natti"? I thought the references to
> >Natti were references to Matti and it was an in-joke. Matti is male,
> >is he not? Natti is definitely not male, and I say that in a most
> >complimentary way. I'm thoroughly confused.

> It's no joke, she's real, and Google finds some AUE postings with her
> name on them.

I was curious, too, so I Dejagoogled. I found only some (three, if I
remember correctly) postings relating to one poser in a summer-doldrums
competition.

Her mystique is enhanced by her e-mail address, which shows that she is
apparently a member of totally-officialdom. Have we to do with an
éminence grise?

Skitt

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May 8, 2002, 6:54:08 PM5/8/02
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"Bob Cunningham" <exw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Mike Barnes <webm...@alt-usage-english.org> said:
> > Tony Cooper <tony_co...@yahoo.com> writes:

> > >Nice pix. I'm sorry, but who is "Natti"? I thought the references to
> > >Natti were references to Matti and it was an in-joke. Matti is male,
> > >is he not? Natti is definitely not male, and I say that in a most
> > >complimentary way. I'm thoroughly confused.
>
> > It's no joke, she's real, and Google finds some AUE postings with her
> > name on them.
>
> I was curious, too, so I Dejagoogled. I found only some (three, if I
> remember correctly) postings relating to one poser in a summer-doldrums
> competition.
>
> Her mystique is enhanced by her e-mail address, which shows that she is
> apparently a member of totally-officialdom. Have we to do with an
> éminence grise?

Could there be a GJV connection?
--
Skitt (in SF Bay Area) http://www.geocities.com/opus731/
I speak English well -- I learn it from a book!
-- Manuel (Fawlty Towers)

Bob Cunningham

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May 8, 2002, 7:03:26 PM5/8/02
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On Wed, 8 May 2002 15:54:08 -0700, "Skitt" <sk...@earthlink.net> said:

> "Bob Cunningham" <exw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Mike Barnes <webm...@alt-usage-english.org> said:
> > > Tony Cooper <tony_co...@yahoo.com> writes:

> > > >Nice pix. I'm sorry, but who is "Natti"? I thought the references to
> > > >Natti were references to Matti and it was an in-joke. Matti is male,
> > > >is he not? Natti is definitely not male, and I say that in a most
> > > >complimentary way. I'm thoroughly confused.

> > > It's no joke, she's real, and Google finds some AUE postings with her
> > > name on them.

> > I was curious, too, so I Dejagoogled. I found only some (three, if I
> > remember correctly) postings relating to one poser in a summer-doldrums
> > competition.

> > Her mystique is enhanced by her e-mail address, which shows that she is
> > apparently a member of totally-officialdom. Have we to do with an
> > éminence grise?

> Could there be a GJV connection?

Can you keep a secret?

So can GJV.

Simon R. Hughes

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May 8, 2002, 7:32:57 PM5/8/02
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Thus Spake Mike Barnes:

> Matti and Natti both appear in the gallery, where the
> gender difference is as clear as anyone could reasonably expect it to
> be.

Sex difference! (I've not had sex with either, but I bet there's a
difference.)
--
Simon R. Hughes
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Garry J. Vass

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May 9, 2002, 7:34:57 AM5/9/02
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"Mike Barnes" <webm...@alt-usage-english.org> wrote in message
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>
> The person behind the camera knows more than I do.
>

Just to add as a side-note, the connection with Padraig hasn't been
mentioned and really should be. It was through his trusting, kind and
selfless efforts, and those of Padraig's brother (who got pulled into the
act), and finally Padraig's sister (who *also* got pulled into the act at
the 11th hour), that she will be able to resume her Usenet involvement, from
the English usage aspect, when she returns home.

A big tip of the hat to all the generation of Baby-Boom Breathnachs!

Kind regards,
GJV

Padraig Breathnach

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May 9, 2002, 8:02:34 AM5/9/02
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I'm glad to learn that I have acquired a brother! I thought that he
was my brother-in-law.

But they say that you and Natti are welcome.

PB

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