Examples Needed: Coarticulation in English
Olumide
looking for a large number of examples of forward and backward
coarticulation in the english language. I will moreover like instances
of words where a phoneme is influenced by another phoneme that is
non-adjacent (or next) to of it.
Thanks
- Olumide
Peter T. Daniels
Look under "progressive" and "regressive assimilation" (the latter is
more common).
No idea what you mean by "forward and backward coarticulation."
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Peter T. Daniels gram...@att.net
Martin Ambuhl
First, note that phonemes are phonological and "assimilation" is the
usual term, but (co-)articulation is concerned with the mechanics of
producing sounds. This is not your first post confusing types of
analysis.
In English coarticulation is usually considered anticipatory
(regressive). The articulatory analogue to progressive (perservative)
assimilation is not normally called coarticulation. The most common
example of progessive assimilation is the -s ending, which is voiced or
unvoiced depending on the preceding sound.
Coarticulation is by definition simultaneous or overlapping articulation
of *successive* sounds. Any elementary text on phonology will give you
examples of phonologically conditioned phonemes.
Olumide
> Coarticulation is by definition simultaneous or overlapping articulation
> of *successive* sounds. Any elementary text on phonology will give you
> examples of phonologically conditioned phonemes.
Sorry! I meant to say instances (or rather words) whose constituent
phonemes assume a lip-shape differently depending on the neighbouring
phoneme(s).
Example: The Y in the words YES and YOU assume different lip-shapes,
also the H in HAPPY and HOME. I need more examples of such words, or
at least an online repository of such.
Thanks
- Olumide
Peter T. Daniels
That's "regressive assimilation," and any phonetics, phonology, or
introductory linguistics book will give you examples.
And, for the third time, it has NOTHING TO DO with phonemes.
mike
news:c837e7e8.02100...@posting.google.com:
the alphabet is just an approximation of speech sounds. probably better,
for study, to drop the alphabet mapping and devise your own sound symbols.
what you're doing is making one of those one move mechanisms, the kind that
harlan likes. they're fun, but not inspiring.
Jacques Guy
>
> Olumide wrote:
> > Example: The Y in the words YES and YOU assume different lip-shapes,
> > also the H in HAPPY and HOME. I need more examples of such words, or
> > at least an online repository of such.
> That's "regressive assimilation," and any phonetics, phonology, or
> introductory linguistics book will give you examples.
> And, for the third time, it has NOTHING TO DO with phonemes.
Aren't they ALLOPHONES of the same PHONEMES? (Since
shouting is fashionable)
Once more, without shouting this time. The /j/ in "yes"
is unrounded (or spread), the one in "you" is rounded
(or labialized). Ditto for the /h/ in "happy" and in
"home".
If those are not allophonic variations, I don't know
what is.
Peter T. Daniels
You don't need to know a single thing about phonemic analysis or about
allophones to understand assimilation.
Or have you learned nothing from Halle 1959? Sometimes those notions are
simply excess baggage.
Olumide
> No idea what you mean by "forward and backward coarticulation."
For an intoduction and use of the terms Forward and Backward
Coarticulation, See the following:
(1) Section 3 of the Paper: Modeling Coarticulation in Synthetic
Visual Speech by Cohen and Massaro
(http://dipaola.org/stanford/facade/lipsync/geneva.pdf)
(2) Sction 9.2 of the Report, TALKING HEADS: Physical, Linguistic and
Cognitive Issues in Facial
Animation(http://hci.skku.ac.kr/document/audio_processing/audio_visual/course_main.pdf)
by Catherine Pelachaud and Scott Prevost
(3) or simply type "Forward Coarticulation" or "Backward
Coarticulation" in your search engine ... See what I got:
http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22forward+coarticulation%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&as_qdr=all&sa=n&oq=+%22foward+coarticulation%22
- Olumide
mith...@indiana.edu
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> Olumide wrote:
> >
> > I may have found a(nother) way of explaining coarticulation and I am
> > looking for a large number of examples of forward and backward
> > coarticulation in the english language. I will moreover like instances
> > of words where a phoneme is influenced by another phoneme that is
> > non-adjacent (or next) to of it.
>
> Look under "progressive" and "regressive assimilation" (the latter is
> more common).
However, some linguists use these opposite to standard practice. I haven't
seen "forward / backward assimilation" used, but I have seen "anticipatory"
and "perseverative." MAT
Peter T. Daniels
So all your word salads have come out of speech synthesis?
It might be worth looking at the history of speech synthesis to find out
why they chose not to use the same terminology as phoneticians, and
moreover to use in different senses words that were already long part of
phonetics terminology.
Jacques Guy
> (2) Sction 9.2 of the Report, TALKING HEADS: Physical, Linguistic and
> Cognitive Issues in Facial
So you're working on creating animations to match
synthesized speech, is that it? Hence your question
about the amount of rounding (labialization) in
the different consonants of English? Hmmm....,
have you tried digging ideas out of lip-readers?
H.M. Hubey
Go back to syllabaries and alphabets.
You can handle those.
Nobody can ever say that Daniels does not know the difference between a syllabary and an
alphabet.
Olumide
>
for Speech!!!
> It might be worth looking at the history of speech synthesis to find out
> why they chose not to use the same terminology as phoneticians,
Looking for a way out Eh? ... You just cannot admit that your initial
opinions are wrong!
- Olumide
Peter T. Daniels
Opinions are not right or wrong.
You asked linguists questions that are meaningless to linguists, because
you were using technical linguistic terminology in ways that linguists
don't use it.