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Arcadian Rises
Jan 28, 2015, 12:11:56 PM1/28/15
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What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
Tony Cooper
Jan 28, 2015, 12:42:12 PM1/28/15
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"overall" if - as I do - you consider an "overall" to be a one-piece
outfit. Scrubs are a top and a bottom.
A doctor wearing scrubs when not in the operating room is dressing
informally, so it is not incorrect to use the informal term. IMO.
The more formal attire for a doctor not in surgery is a long white
jacket over street clothes. The jacket will have his name and "M.D"
embroidered on the jacket so you will not make the mistake of thinking
he is one of the lesser mortals.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
Peter Young
Jan 28, 2015, 12:47:51 PM1/28/15
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On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Re)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Tony Cooper
Jan 28, 2015, 2:28:30 PM1/28/15
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:46:11 GMT, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
wrote:
>On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>
>I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>
>Peter.
It certainly isn't a US term that I've heard in forty years of
frequent contact with doctors.
wrote:
>On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>
>I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>
>Peter.
frequent contact with doctors.
Bertel Lund Hansen
Jan 28, 2015, 2:37:13 PM1/28/15
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Arcadian Rises skrev:
> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
Maybe this is only Danish use, but this is what I call an
overall:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Bib-brace.jpg
and this is what in Danish is called "kedeldragt" = "boiler suit"
where "boiler" means a huge container for fluids (usually water)
with a fire under it.
http://www.fotoagent.dk/single_picture/11108/138/mega/m00112.jpg
But Google mixes pictures of the two kinds.
--
Bertel, Denmark
> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
overall:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Bib-brace.jpg
and this is what in Danish is called "kedeldragt" = "boiler suit"
where "boiler" means a huge container for fluids (usually water)
with a fire under it.
http://www.fotoagent.dk/single_picture/11108/138/mega/m00112.jpg
But Google mixes pictures of the two kinds.
--
Bertel, Denmark
Django Cat
Jan 28, 2015, 3:08:44 PM1/28/15
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Arcadian Rises wrote:
> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
You can never be too British, pal.
> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
DC
--
Ross
Jan 28, 2015, 3:16:25 PM1/28/15
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Reinhold {Rey} Aman
Jan 28, 2015, 3:19:45 PM1/28/15
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Peter Young wrote:
--
~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~
>
> Arcadian Rises wrote:
>
>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>
> I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>
Smock?
> Arcadian Rises wrote:
>
>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>
> I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>
--
~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~
erilar
Jan 28, 2015, 3:35:22 PM1/28/15
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In article <4e697c1b-e27b-4693...@googlegroups.com>,
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
I see/hear "scrubs" a lot. I've never encountered the others.
> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
erilar
Jan 28, 2015, 3:36:19 PM1/28/15
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In article <3a3c4c03-6e90-4ef8...@googlegroups.com>,
Artists wear them at times. I've never seen/heard it applied to doctors.
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
Richard Tobin
Jan 28, 2015, 4:15:04 PM1/28/15
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>What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
An overall?
-- Richard
Janet
Jan 28, 2015, 4:44:40 PM1/28/15
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In article <7j7ica1ptmc002rml...@4ax.com>, tonycooper214
@gmail.com says...
The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
sleeves).
Janet UK
Janet (in the UK)
@gmail.com says...
sleeves).
Janet UK
Janet (in the UK)
Adam Funk
Jan 28, 2015, 5:00:06 PM1/28/15
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sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace"; I
guess "overalls" covers both. I'm not sure if "boiler suit" is used
in AmE.
--
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use more.
Don Phillipson
Jan 28, 2015, 5:16:30 PM1/28/15
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"Arcadian Rises" <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4e697c1b-e27b-4693...@googlegroups.com...
> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
How about "doctor's white coat"?
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
news:4e697c1b-e27b-4693...@googlegroups.com...
> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Tony Cooper
Jan 28, 2015, 5:33:15 PM1/28/15
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:16:21 -0800 (PST), Ross <benl...@ihug.co.nz>
wrote:
They - white jackets - are also known as "Lab Coats".
A "smock", to me, is like an apron. It does not fully enclose the
body. I associate them with artsy-craftsy people.
wrote:
A "smock", to me, is like an apron. It does not fully enclose the
body. I associate them with artsy-craftsy people.
Katy Jennison
Jan 28, 2015, 5:59:30 PM1/28/15
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On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
> On 2015-01-28, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>
>> Arcadian Rises skrev:
>>
>>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>
>> Maybe this is only Danish use, but this is what I call an
>> overall:
>>
>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Bib-brace.jpg
>>
>> and this is what in Danish is called "kedeldragt" = "boiler suit"
>> where "boiler" means a huge container for fluids (usually water)
>> with a fire under it.
>>
>> http://www.fotoagent.dk/single_picture/11108/138/mega/m00112.jpg
>>
>> But Google mixes pictures of the two kinds.
>
> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
> On 2015-01-28, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>
>> Arcadian Rises skrev:
>>
>>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>
>> Maybe this is only Danish use, but this is what I call an
>> overall:
>>
>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Bib-brace.jpg
>>
>> and this is what in Danish is called "kedeldragt" = "boiler suit"
>> where "boiler" means a huge container for fluids (usually water)
>> with a fire under it.
>>
>> http://www.fotoagent.dk/single_picture/11108/138/mega/m00112.jpg
>>
>> But Google mixes pictures of the two kinds.
>
> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
>I
> guess "overalls" covers both. I'm not sure if "boiler suit" is used
> in AmE.
>
>
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Tony Cooper
Jan 28, 2015, 5:59:37 PM1/28/15
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often in either lab coats or have on long-sleeved shirts.
https://www.google.com/search?q=nhs+doctor&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=O2nJVIXQI_eSsQSCg4G4Dw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1266&bih=890
![Peter Duncanson [BrE]'s profile photo](http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a-/ALV-UjU1GGYFBCZgBCNB-pRgkosMu-ej0qpnECw3jc8uGYOTiF8a=s40-c)
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
Jan 28, 2015, 6:06:49 PM1/28/15
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>On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>
>I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>
The nearest clothing word to "smoke" that I can think of is "smock".
>
>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>
>I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>
I know of an "artist's smock", but I've not heard of the word in medical
use.
I live and learn!
http://www.alibaba.com/nurse-smock-promotion.html
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Ross
Jan 28, 2015, 6:13:37 PM1/28/15
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with artsy-crafties is probably from (artist) painters wearing them,
at least in our 19th-century-based stereotype:
http://www.timtim.com/drawing/view/drawing_id/4512
They wore them to keep paint splashes off their regular clothes. (I guess
that's what they have in common with aprons.) People in other lines of work
(sailors, agricultural workers) wore them for similar reasons. I don't think
I've heard it applied to surgical gear, but it wouldn't surprise me - would
make a lot more sense than "smoke".
Tony Cooper
Jan 28, 2015, 6:37:22 PM1/28/15
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 22:59:28 +0000, Katy Jennison
<ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:
>On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
>> On 2015-01-28, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>>
>>> Arcadian Rises skrev:
>>>
>>>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>>
>>> Maybe this is only Danish use, but this is what I call an
>>> overall:
>>>
>>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Bib-brace.jpg
>>>
>>> and this is what in Danish is called "kedeldragt" = "boiler suit"
>>> where "boiler" means a huge container for fluids (usually water)
>>> with a fire under it.
>>>
>>> http://www.fotoagent.dk/single_picture/11108/138/mega/m00112.jpg
>>>
>>> But Google mixes pictures of the two kinds.
>>
>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
>
>Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
>Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
The ones I see wear a white donkey jacket.
<ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:
>On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
>> On 2015-01-28, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>>
>>> Arcadian Rises skrev:
>>>
>>>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>>
>>> Maybe this is only Danish use, but this is what I call an
>>> overall:
>>>
>>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Bib-brace.jpg
>>>
>>> and this is what in Danish is called "kedeldragt" = "boiler suit"
>>> where "boiler" means a huge container for fluids (usually water)
>>> with a fire under it.
>>>
>>> http://www.fotoagent.dk/single_picture/11108/138/mega/m00112.jpg
>>>
>>> But Google mixes pictures of the two kinds.
>>
>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
>
>Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
>Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
>>I
>> guess "overalls" covers both. I'm not sure if "boiler suit" is used
>> in AmE.
>>
>>
--
Bertel Lund Hansen
Jan 28, 2015, 6:38:31 PM1/28/15
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Katy Jennison skrev:
>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
> Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
> Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
Do you mean that both kinds now are called "overalls"?
--
Bertel, Denmark
>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
> Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
> Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
--
Bertel, Denmark
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Reinhold {Rey} Aman
Jan 28, 2015, 7:27:24 PM1/28/15
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Reinhold {Rey} Aman wrote:
>
> Peter Young wrote:
>> Arcadian Rises wrote:
>>
>>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>>
>> I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>>
> Smock?
>
I was right. See Google Images: "doctor's smock".
>
> Peter Young wrote:
>> Arcadian Rises wrote:
>>
>>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>>
>> I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>>
> Smock?
>
David D S
Jan 28, 2015, 8:44:06 PM1/28/15
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Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:16:21 -0800 (PST), Ross <benl...@ihug.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:28:30 AM UTC+13, Tony Cooper
> > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:46:11 GMT, Peter Young
> <pny...@ormail.co.uk> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> >> >> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
> >> >
> >> >I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
> >> >
> >> >Peter.
> >>
> >> It certainly isn't a US term that I've heard in forty years of
> >> frequent contact with doctors.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
> >
> > "Smock", maybe...?
>
> They - white jackets - are also known as "Lab Coats".
>
> A "smock", to me, is like an apron. It does not fully enclose the
> body. I associate them with artsy-craftsy people.
What you describe as a smock could also be similar to what
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:16:21 -0800 (PST), Ross <benl...@ihug.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:28:30 AM UTC+13, Tony Cooper
> > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:46:11 GMT, Peter Young
> <pny...@ormail.co.uk> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> >> >> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
> >> >
> >> >I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
> >> >
> >> >Peter.
> >>
> >> It certainly isn't a US term that I've heard in forty years of
> >> frequent contact with doctors.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
> >
> > "Smock", maybe...?
>
> They - white jackets - are also known as "Lab Coats".
>
> A "smock", to me, is like an apron. It does not fully enclose the
> body. I associate them with artsy-craftsy people.
we called a "pinny". It was the name we gave to a loose
protective overall worn by my maternal grandmother when
she was doing housework.
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Peter Moylan
Jan 28, 2015, 10:12:33 PM1/28/15
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I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
thought that was only for TV doctors.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
JE SUIS CHARLIE
Tony Cooper
Jan 28, 2015, 10:38:58 PM1/28/15
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 14:12:29 +1100, Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org>
wrote:
I am a bit surprised that there is any controversy over this. Donning
a cover-up over what is worn out in the street, and one that can be
laundered each day, seems like a good thing.
This way, the doctor spreads only the germs that are already in the
hospital. No street germs.
wrote:
a cover-up over what is worn out in the street, and one that can be
laundered each day, seems like a good thing.
This way, the doctor spreads only the germs that are already in the
hospital. No street germs.
Peter T. Daniels
Jan 28, 2015, 11:51:00 PM1/28/15
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On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
> I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
> thought that was only for TV doctors.
why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
> I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
> thought that was only for TV doctors.
Peter T. Daniels
Jan 28, 2015, 11:56:21 PM1/28/15
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"overall" (sg.) is our "coverall" -- a loose-fitting outer garment with
arms and legs worn over ordinary clothes to protect them from the dirt or
paint of the worksite.
Our "overalls" are a garment like loose-fitting jeans with a bib and
buttoned shoulder straps, traditionally worn by farmers, usually over
a t-shirt.
Similar to coveralls is a "jump suit" (perhaps originally designed for
parachutists), with form- pr snug-fitting arms and legs and a zipper all
the way down the front.
Katy Jennison
Jan 29, 2015, 12:00:27 AM1/29/15
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just overalls. Boiler suits may still be called boiler suits, but also
overalls, or coveralls, or indeed all three names at once: there are ads
for "boiler suit overall coveralls" out there.
--
Katy Jennison
Charles Bishop
Jan 29, 2015, 12:23:13 AM1/29/15
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In article <onoicahef62j3okp3...@4ax.com>,
what I think of a jacket length.
ties on each side. One of the ties went through a slit in the opposite
side and they were both tied together in front. I don't think I ever had
to call it anything, clean ones were delivered weekly, I'd guess.
--
charles
Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:16:21 -0800 (PST), Ross <benl...@ihug.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:28:30 AM UTC+13, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:46:11 GMT, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> >> >> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
> >> >
> >> >I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
> >> >
> >> >Peter.
> >>
> >> It certainly isn't a US term that I've heard in forty years of
> >> frequent contact with doctors.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
> >
> >"Smock", maybe...?
>
> They - white jackets - are also known as "Lab Coats".
My lab coats were longer, down to mid thigh or just above the knee, than
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:16:21 -0800 (PST), Ross <benl...@ihug.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:28:30 AM UTC+13, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:46:11 GMT, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> >> >> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
> >> >
> >> >I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
> >> >
> >> >Peter.
> >>
> >> It certainly isn't a US term that I've heard in forty years of
> >> frequent contact with doctors.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
> >
> >"Smock", maybe...?
>
> They - white jackets - are also known as "Lab Coats".
what I think of a jacket length.
>
> A "smock", to me, is like an apron. It does not fully enclose the
> body. I associate them with artsy-craftsy people.
I've also worn something smock like. It wrapped around the body with
> A "smock", to me, is like an apron. It does not fully enclose the
> body. I associate them with artsy-craftsy people.
ties on each side. One of the ties went through a slit in the opposite
side and they were both tied together in front. I don't think I ever had
to call it anything, clean ones were delivered weekly, I'd guess.
--
charles
Katy Jennison
Jan 29, 2015, 12:41:37 AM1/29/15
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went on over the head, like a very loose dress. ("Traditional" smocks,
as traditionally worn by shepherds, also had smocking on the front, but
it wasn't mandatory.) A pinafore or pinny had a bib front and tied at
the back. An apron had no bib: it was just waist-down.
These days these useful distinctions no longer apply. Life has got much
more fuzzy.
--
Katy Jennison
Jerry Friedman
Jan 29, 2015, 12:56:12 AM1/29/15
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is wiping the remnants of her performance off the side of her mouth
as LARRY (the guy from the garage who quit the band in order to make
an honest living) zips up the front of his stinking boiler suit and sings
to the same teen-age girls who were stomping and clapping a little while
ago..."
That's probably enough. Frank Zappa, "Crew Slut"--you can't get any
more American than that.
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/frankzappa/crewslut.html
--
Jerry Friedman
Add water, makes its own sauce.
Steve Hayes
Jan 29, 2015, 1:11:13 AM1/29/15
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:33:20 -0500, Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com>
When I read "white jacket" in an earlier post *which you don't seem to have
posted), I pictured something like this:
http://www.mytuxedocatalog.com/catalog/rental-tuxedos-and-suits/C943-White-Savoy-Tuxedo
--
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Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:16:21 -0800 (PST), Ross <benl...@ihug.co.nz>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:28:30 AM UTC+13, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:46:11 GMT, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>> >> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>>> >
>>> >I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>>> >
>>> >Peter.
>>>
>>> It certainly isn't a US term that I've heard in forty years of
>>> frequent contact with doctors.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
>>
>>"Smock", maybe...?
>
>They - white jackets - are also known as "Lab Coats".
I wouldn't call a lab coat a "jacket" either.
>On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:16:21 -0800 (PST), Ross <benl...@ihug.co.nz>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:28:30 AM UTC+13, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:46:11 GMT, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>> >> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>>> >
>>> >I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>>> >
>>> >Peter.
>>>
>>> It certainly isn't a US term that I've heard in forty years of
>>> frequent contact with doctors.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
>>
>>"Smock", maybe...?
>
>They - white jackets - are also known as "Lab Coats".
When I read "white jacket" in an earlier post *which you don't seem to have
posted), I pictured something like this:
http://www.mytuxedocatalog.com/catalog/rental-tuxedos-and-suits/C943-White-Savoy-Tuxedo
--
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E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
Steve Hayes
Jan 29, 2015, 1:15:35 AM1/29/15
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An artist's smock is like a very loose-fitting overshirt, with long sleeves,
to prevent other clothing from getting blotches of paint.
A pinny has no sleeves, and in MyE is a woman's dress with a bib-overall
front, usually worn over a jersey.
charles
Jan 29, 2015, 1:51:33 AM1/29/15
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In article <xn0jhloq...@news.individual.net>,
Pinny is short for pinafore = Something pinned in front of normal clothing
for protection.
--
From KT24 in Surrey
Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18
David D S <inv...@m-invalid.invalid> wrote:
for protection.
--
From KT24 in Surrey
Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18
Janet
Jan 29, 2015, 5:05:20 AM1/29/15
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In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
gram...@verizon.net says...
Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
that's radically different from real doctors.
Janet.
gram...@verizon.net says...
that's radically different from real doctors.
Janet.
Ross
Jan 29, 2015, 5:16:14 AM1/29/15
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would dress some actor up in a white coat and have him face the camera and
tell you that Product X was good for you. Eventually this came to be
considered unethical. At a later stage I remember the line "I'm not a doctor,
but I play one on TV", but can't remember who said it or in support of
what product.
Peter Moylan
Jan 29, 2015, 6:22:43 AM1/29/15
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On 29/01/15 21:16, Ross wrote:
> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 11:05:20 PM UTC+13, Janet wrote:
>> In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
>> gram...@verizon.net says...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>>
>>>> I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
>>>> thought that was only for TV doctors.
>>>
>>> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
>>
>> Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
>> that's radically different from real doctors.
>
> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 11:05:20 PM UTC+13, Janet wrote:
>> In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
>> gram...@verizon.net says...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>>
>>>> I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
>>>> thought that was only for TV doctors.
>>>
>>> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
>>
>> Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
>> that's radically different from real doctors.
>
> I think PM's comment was based on the fact that in the past, ad agencies
> would dress some actor up in a white coat and have him face the camera and
> tell you that Product X was good for you. Eventually this came to be
> considered unethical. At a later stage I remember the line "I'm not a doctor,
> but I play one on TV", but can't remember who said it or in support of
> what product.
I think white coats do get some respect from the general public, but we
> would dress some actor up in a white coat and have him face the camera and
> tell you that Product X was good for you. Eventually this came to be
> considered unethical. At a later stage I remember the line "I'm not a doctor,
> but I play one on TV", but can't remember who said it or in support of
> what product.
associate them more with chemistry labs than with medicos. The
'white-coated scientist' image has a long history.
Cheryl
Jan 29, 2015, 6:37:58 AM1/29/15
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On 2015-01-29 2:44 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:33:20 -0500, Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:16:21 -0800 (PST), Ross <benl...@ihug.co.nz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:28:30 AM UTC+13, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:46:11 GMT, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>>>>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>>>>>
>>>>> I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter.
>>>>
>>>> It certainly isn't a US term that I've heard in forty years of
>>>> frequent contact with doctors.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
>>>
>>> "Smock", maybe...?
>>
>> They - white jackets - are also known as "Lab Coats".
>
> I wouldn't call a lab coat a "jacket" either.
>
> When I read "white jacket" in an earlier post *which you don't seem to have
> posted), I pictured something like this:
>
> http://www.mytuxedocatalog.com/catalog/rental-tuxedos-and-suits/C943-White-Savoy-Tuxedo
Medical students here get a short white jacket, like a short lab coat,
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:33:20 -0500, Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:16:21 -0800 (PST), Ross <benl...@ihug.co.nz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:28:30 AM UTC+13, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:46:11 GMT, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28 Jan 2015 Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>>>>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>>>>>
>>>>> I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter.
>>>>
>>>> It certainly isn't a US term that I've heard in forty years of
>>>> frequent contact with doctors.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
>>>
>>> "Smock", maybe...?
>>
>> They - white jackets - are also known as "Lab Coats".
>
> I wouldn't call a lab coat a "jacket" either.
>
> When I read "white jacket" in an earlier post *which you don't seem to have
> posted), I pictured something like this:
>
> http://www.mytuxedocatalog.com/catalog/rental-tuxedos-and-suits/C943-White-Savoy-Tuxedo
when they enter medical school and a lab coat when they start clinical
work. I don't know how often they (or real doctors) wear either; I've
seen doctors wearing lab coats as described by Tony sometimes, but often
they seem to wear street clothes. Surgeons and students studying surgery
tend to wear scrubs (also called 'greens') a lot, even outside the OR.
Older physicians and surgeons are more likely to wear nice suits, or, if
female, dressy business-style outfits, than younger ones, who sometimes
have people tut-tutting over their informality. Hospitals have dress
codes, generally along the lines of "formal; no revealing tops, raggedly
clothing or sandals more suited for the beach".
--
Cheryl
charles
Jan 29, 2015, 7:28:35 AM1/29/15
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In article <mad54v$u82$1...@dont-email.me>, Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org>
wrote:
doesn't have to be chemistry. SWMBO - a biologist - wore one as a teacher.
wrote:
Bertel Lund Hansen
Jan 29, 2015, 8:35:35 AM1/29/15
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Tony Cooper skrev:
> This way, the doctor spreads only the germs that are already in the
> hospital.
That is bad enough. It is estimated that 3000 Danes die each year
from deseases they didn't have when they entered the hospital.
--
Bertel, Denmark
> This way, the doctor spreads only the germs that are already in the
> hospital.
from deseases they didn't have when they entered the hospital.
--
Bertel, Denmark
Bertel Lund Hansen
Jan 29, 2015, 8:37:03 AM1/29/15
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Charles Bishop skrev:
> I've also worn something smock like. It wrapped around the body with
> ties on each side. One of the ties went through a slit in the opposite
> side and they were both tied together in front. I don't think I ever had
> to call it anything, clean ones were delivered weekly, I'd guess.
The Danish word for that, "forklæde", means "front cloth".
--
Bertel, Denmark
> I've also worn something smock like. It wrapped around the body with
> ties on each side. One of the ties went through a slit in the opposite
> side and they were both tied together in front. I don't think I ever had
> to call it anything, clean ones were delivered weekly, I'd guess.
--
Bertel, Denmark
Charles Bishop
Jan 29, 2015, 10:08:02 AM1/29/15
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In article <548d721a...@charleshope.demon.co.uk>,
charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
this, the HMS Pinafore was called that?
Also, I have the image of something that is slipped over the head and is
a dress, rather than being pinned to other clothing. I associate them
with country or western (cowboy) women on ranches or in small towns.
--
charles
charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
>
> Pinny is short for pinafore = Something pinned in front of normal clothing
> for protection.
All these years and I never knew that. Is there a reason, related to
> Pinny is short for pinafore = Something pinned in front of normal clothing
> for protection.
this, the HMS Pinafore was called that?
Also, I have the image of something that is slipped over the head and is
a dress, rather than being pinned to other clothing. I associate them
with country or western (cowboy) women on ranches or in small towns.
--
charles
Adam Funk
Jan 29, 2015, 10:15:05 AM1/29/15
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--
No right of private conversation was enumerated in the Constitution.
I don't suppose it occurred to anyone at the time that it could be
prevented. [Whitfield Diffie]
Adam Funk
Jan 29, 2015, 10:15:05 AM1/29/15
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On 2015-01-29, Ross wrote:
> I think PM's comment was based on the fact that in the past, ad agencies
> would dress some actor up in a white coat and have him face the camera and
> tell you that Product X was good for you. Eventually this came to be
"More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette"!
> I think PM's comment was based on the fact that in the past, ad agencies
> would dress some actor up in a white coat and have him face the camera and
> tell you that Product X was good for you. Eventually this came to be
> considered unethical. At a later stage I remember the line "I'm not a doctor,
> but I play one on TV", but can't remember who said it or in support of
> what product.
Peter Bergman, Vicks cough syrup
--
You're the last hope for vaudeville.
--- Groucho Marx to Alice Cooper
Adam Funk
Jan 29, 2015, 10:15:07 AM1/29/15
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On 2015-01-29, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 5:00:06 PM UTC-5, Adam Funk wrote:
>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace"; I
>> guess "overalls" covers both. I'm not sure if "boiler suit" is used
>> in AmE.
(What I meant there was that I doubt "boiler suit" is used in AmE but
> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 5:00:06 PM UTC-5, Adam Funk wrote:
>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace"; I
>> guess "overalls" covers both. I'm not sure if "boiler suit" is used
>> in AmE.
can't be sure it never is.)
> To try to wrench the topic back to the unanswered question, I _think_ your
> "overall" (sg.) is our "coverall" -- a loose-fitting outer garment with
> arms and legs worn over ordinary clothes to protect them from the dirt or
> paint of the worksite.
>
> Our "overalls" are a garment like loose-fitting jeans with a bib and
> buttoned shoulder straps, traditionally worn by farmers, usually over
> a t-shirt.
"coverall" is only the first kind.
> Similar to coveralls is a "jump suit" (perhaps originally designed for
> parachutists), with form- pr snug-fitting arms and legs and a zipper all
> the way down the front.
--
XML is like violence: if it doesn't solve the problem,
use more.
Adam Funk
Jan 29, 2015, 10:15:08 AM1/29/15
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On 2015-01-28, Katy Jennison wrote:
> On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
>
yes.
--
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
--- President Muffley
> On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
>
> Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
> Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
I'd be pretty concerned if the doctor approached me in a boiler suit,
> Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
yes.
--
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
--- President Muffley
Charles Bishop
Jan 29, 2015, 10:20:11 AM1/29/15
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In article <2d8b618b-32ac-42d4...@googlegroups.com>,
My dad, a pilot (at times), wore a jump suit. It may have to do with
parachuting, such that he might need to parachute out of an airplane.
There is also "bunny suit", a one piece garment (except for shoe
coverings and gloves) that was put on to cover all of a person's clothes
and head. We used them to enter "clean rooms" because any small bit off
of clothing could contaminate the product/procedures being done in the
clean room. Our clean room was used for analysis, other clean rooms were
used for production.
--
charles
parachuting, such that he might need to parachute out of an airplane.
There is also "bunny suit", a one piece garment (except for shoe
coverings and gloves) that was put on to cover all of a person's clothes
and head. We used them to enter "clean rooms" because any small bit off
of clothing could contaminate the product/procedures being done in the
clean room. Our clean room was used for analysis, other clean rooms were
used for production.
--
charles
Adam Funk
Jan 29, 2015, 10:45:06 AM1/29/15
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On 2015-01-29, Charles Bishop wrote:
> There is also "bunny suit", a one piece garment (except for shoe
> coverings and gloves) that was put on to cover all of a person's clothes
> and head. We used them to enter "clean rooms" because any small bit off
> of clothing could contaminate the product/procedures being done in the
> clean room. Our clean room was used for analysis, other clean rooms were
> used for production.
This is not the Hefner bunny suit, then.
> There is also "bunny suit", a one piece garment (except for shoe
> coverings and gloves) that was put on to cover all of a person's clothes
> and head. We used them to enter "clean rooms" because any small bit off
> of clothing could contaminate the product/procedures being done in the
> clean room. Our clean room was used for analysis, other clean rooms were
> used for production.
--
A firm rule must be imposed upon our nation before it destroys
itself. The United States needs some theology and geometry, some taste
and decency. I suspect that we are teetering on the edge of the abyss.
--- Ignatius J Reilly
Adam Funk
Jan 29, 2015, 10:45:08 AM1/29/15
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On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
> sleeves).
Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
> sleeves).
--
[Those cookbooks] seem to consider _everything_ a leftover, which you
must do something with. For instance, cake. This is like telling you
what to do with your leftover whisky. --- Peg Bracken
Justin Thyme
Jan 29, 2015, 11:58:36 AM1/29/15
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Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:11:54 -0800 (PST), Arcadian Rises
> <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:11:54 -0800 (PST), Arcadian Rises
> <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>> Is "scrubs" too slangy?
Scrubs are what is worn by staff (doctors and others) in operating
theatres. Scrub suit (i.e., jacket and trousers) is more formal. One
dictionary says N. American, but they must be common terms over here too
else I would not know them.
> Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>
> "Scrubs" are a particular type of outfit. They are not generally an
> "overall" if - as I do - you consider an "overall" to be a one-piece
> outfit. Scrubs are a top and a bottom.
>
> A doctor wearing scrubs when not in the operating room is dressing
> informally, so it is not incorrect to use the informal term. IMO.
>
> The more formal attire for a doctor not in surgery is a long white
> jacket over street clothes.
For men in Rightpondia a suit is the norm. Ties used to be too but they
> "overall" if - as I do - you consider an "overall" to be a one-piece
> outfit. Scrubs are a top and a bottom.
>
> A doctor wearing scrubs when not in the operating room is dressing
> informally, so it is not incorrect to use the informal term. IMO.
>
> The more formal attire for a doctor not in surgery is a long white
> jacket over street clothes.
are now deprecated because by dangling on patients they might carry
infection around the hospital.
> The jacket will have his name and "M.D"
> embroidered on the jacket so you will not make the mistake of thinking
> he is one of the lesser mortals.
round the neck.
Here's a little joke for you to annoy your doctor:
Q: what's the definition of an alcoholic?
A: someone who drinks more than his doctor.
--
Sorrow in all lands, and grievous omens.
Great anger in the dragon of the hills,
And silent now the earth's green oracles
That will not speak again of innocence.
David Sutton -- Geomancies
Don Phillipson
Jan 29, 2015, 11:59:44 AM1/29/15
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"Peter Moylan" <pe...@pmoylan.org> wrote in message
news:mac8dt$vit$1...@dont-email.me...
> I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
> thought that was only for TV doctors.
A current Canadian radio series (featuring a real doctor discussing
medical topics) is entitled "White coats and black art."
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
news:mac8dt$vit$1...@dont-email.me...
> I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
> thought that was only for TV doctors.
medical topics) is entitled "White coats and black art."
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Justin Thyme
Jan 29, 2015, 12:01:47 PM1/29/15
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Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 21:44:37 -0000, Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <7j7ica1ptmc002rml...@4ax.com>, tonycooper214
>> @gmail.com says...
> often in either lab coats or have on long-sleeved shirts.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=nhs+doctor&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=O2nJVIXQI_eSsQSCg4G4Dw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1266&bih=890
I did once see a doctor wearing a rugby shirt. Unfortunately he was not
treating me. Had he been doing so I would have said he was
indistinguishable from someone who had walked in off the street, so
could I please see his documentation proving that he was, indeed
qualified to treat me. One should never miss an opportunity to piss off
members of the profession.
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 21:44:37 -0000, Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <7j7ica1ptmc002rml...@4ax.com>, tonycooper214
>> @gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:11:54 -0800 (PST), Arcadian Rises
>>> <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>>> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:11:54 -0800 (PST), Arcadian Rises
>>> <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
>>>
>>> "Scrubs" are a particular type of outfit. They are not generally an
>>> "overall" if - as I do - you consider an "overall" to be a one-piece
>>> outfit. Scrubs are a top and a bottom.
>>>
>>> A doctor wearing scrubs when not in the operating room is dressing
>>> informally, so it is not incorrect to use the informal term. IMO.
>>>
>>> The more formal attire for a doctor not in surgery is a long white
>>> jacket over street clothes. The jacket will have his name and "M.D"
>>> "Scrubs" are a particular type of outfit. They are not generally an
>>> "overall" if - as I do - you consider an "overall" to be a one-piece
>>> outfit. Scrubs are a top and a bottom.
>>>
>>> A doctor wearing scrubs when not in the operating room is dressing
>>> informally, so it is not incorrect to use the informal term. IMO.
>>>
>>> The more formal attire for a doctor not in surgery is a long white
>>> embroidered on the jacket so you will not make the mistake of thinking
>>> he is one of the lesser mortals.
>>
>>> he is one of the lesser mortals.
>>
>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
>> sleeves).
>
> Could have fooled me. Using Google Images, those not in scrubs are
>> sleeves).
>
> often in either lab coats or have on long-sleeved shirts.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=nhs+doctor&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=O2nJVIXQI_eSsQSCg4G4Dw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1266&bih=890
I did once see a doctor wearing a rugby shirt. Unfortunately he was not
treating me. Had he been doing so I would have said he was
indistinguishable from someone who had walked in off the street, so
could I please see his documentation proving that he was, indeed
qualified to treat me. One should never miss an opportunity to piss off
members of the profession.
Bertel Lund Hansen
Jan 29, 2015, 12:15:46 PM1/29/15
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Justin Thyme skrev:
> I did once see a doctor wearing a rugby shirt. Unfortunately he was not
> treating me. Had he been doing so I would have said he was
> indistinguishable from someone who had walked in off the street, so
> could I please see his documentation proving that he was, indeed
> qualified to treat me. One should never miss an opportunity to piss off
> members of the profession.
I think I would - if he was going to treat me.
--
Bertel, Denmark
> I did once see a doctor wearing a rugby shirt. Unfortunately he was not
> treating me. Had he been doing so I would have said he was
> indistinguishable from someone who had walked in off the street, so
> could I please see his documentation proving that he was, indeed
> qualified to treat me. One should never miss an opportunity to piss off
> members of the profession.
--
Bertel, Denmark
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
Jan 29, 2015, 12:46:41 PM1/29/15
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 07:07:59 -0800, Charles Bishop
<ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <548d721a...@charleshope.demon.co.uk>,
> charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>
>> Pinny is short for pinafore = Something pinned in front of normal clothing
>> for protection.
>
>All these years and I never knew that. Is there a reason, related to
>this, the HMS Pinafore was called that?
>
This just says:
<ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <548d721a...@charleshope.demon.co.uk>,
> charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>
>> Pinny is short for pinafore = Something pinned in front of normal clothing
>> for protection.
>
>All these years and I never knew that. Is there a reason, related to
>this, the HMS Pinafore was called that?
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.M.S._Pinafore
The title of the piece comically applies the name of a garment for
girls and women, a pinafore, to the fearsome symbol of a naval
warship.
>Also, I have the image of something that is slipped over the head and is
>a dress, rather than being pinned to other clothing. I associate them
>with country or western (cowboy) women on ranches or in small towns.
--
(in alt.usage.english)
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
Jan 29, 2015, 12:55:06 PM1/29/15
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:09:16 +0000, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>
wrote:
>On 2015-01-28, Katy Jennison wrote:
>
>> On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
>
>>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
>>
>> Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
>> Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
>
>I'd be pretty concerned if the doctor approached me in a boiler suit,
>yes.
Doctor approaches carrying a pipe wrench: "Good morning. I see from your
records that you have a problem with your internal plumbing."
Churchill wore a similar garment that was known as a "siren suit":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_suit
Today we have the "onespie":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onesie_%28jumpsuit%29
Boilersuit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boilersuit
wrote:
>On 2015-01-28, Katy Jennison wrote:
>
>> On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
>
>>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
>>
>> Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
>> Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
>
>I'd be pretty concerned if the doctor approached me in a boiler suit,
>yes.
records that you have a problem with your internal plumbing."
Churchill wore a similar garment that was known as a "siren suit":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_suit
Today we have the "onespie":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onesie_%28jumpsuit%29
Boilersuit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boilersuit
Jerry Friedman
Jan 29, 2015, 1:04:10 PM1/29/15
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Welby (whose name I remembered, though I never watched the show).
--
Jerry Friedman
Mack A. Damia
Jan 29, 2015, 1:06:23 PM1/29/15
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Peter T. Daniels
Jan 29, 2015, 1:18:26 PM1/29/15
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On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 10:15:07 AM UTC-5, Adam Funk wrote:
> On 2015-01-29, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 5:00:06 PM UTC-5, Adam Funk wrote:
>
> >> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
> >> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace"; I
> >> guess "overalls" covers both. I'm not sure if "boiler suit" is used
> >> in AmE.
>
> (What I meant there was that I doubt "boiler suit" is used in AmE but
> can't be sure it never is.)
>
> > To try to wrench the topic back to the unanswered question, I _think_ your
> > "overall" (sg.) is our "coverall" -- a loose-fitting outer garment with
> > arms and legs worn over ordinary clothes to protect them from the dirt or
> > paint of the worksite.
> >
> > Our "overalls" are a garment like loose-fitting jeans with a bib and
> > buttoned shoulder straps, traditionally worn by farmers, usually over
> > a t-shirt.
>
> Well, I think (in AmE) "overalls" can refer to both kinds, whereas
> "coverall" is only the first kind.
I haven't encountered "overalls" for "coverall," nor have I ever heard
> On 2015-01-29, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 5:00:06 PM UTC-5, Adam Funk wrote:
>
> >> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
> >> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace"; I
> >> guess "overalls" covers both. I'm not sure if "boiler suit" is used
> >> in AmE.
>
> (What I meant there was that I doubt "boiler suit" is used in AmE but
> can't be sure it never is.)
>
> > To try to wrench the topic back to the unanswered question, I _think_ your
> > "overall" (sg.) is our "coverall" -- a loose-fitting outer garment with
> > arms and legs worn over ordinary clothes to protect them from the dirt or
> > paint of the worksite.
> >
> > Our "overalls" are a garment like loose-fitting jeans with a bib and
> > buttoned shoulder straps, traditionally worn by farmers, usually over
> > a t-shirt.
>
> Well, I think (in AmE) "overalls" can refer to both kinds, whereas
> "coverall" is only the first kind.
"boiler suit." "Boiled" somehow related to white tie, perhaps referring
to the starching of the dickey; maybe in 30s movies, probably something
like *My Man Godfrey*.
> > Similar to coveralls is a "jump suit" (perhaps originally designed for
> > parachutists), with form- pr snug-fitting arms and legs and a zipper all
> > the way down the front.
>
> Whatever happened to leisure suits?!?!?
Bertel Lund Hansen
Jan 29, 2015, 1:21:36 PM1/29/15
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Charles Bishop skrev:
>> Pinny is short for pinafore = Something pinned in front of normal clothing
>> for protection.
> All these years and I never knew that. Is there a reason, related to
> this, the HMS Pinafore was called that?
I don't know but it seems obvious. The song is about all the
'hering salad' that is pinned on your jacket.
"Hering salad" is a Danish name for a lot of medals and orders.
--
Bertel, Denmark
>> Pinny is short for pinafore = Something pinned in front of normal clothing
>> for protection.
> All these years and I never knew that. Is there a reason, related to
> this, the HMS Pinafore was called that?
'hering salad' that is pinned on your jacket.
"Hering salad" is a Danish name for a lot of medals and orders.
--
Bertel, Denmark
Arcadian Rises
Jan 29, 2015, 1:24:43 PM1/29/15
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On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-5, Reinhold {Rey} Aman wrote:
> Peter Young wrote:
Obviously. My bad
I'm surprised other people didn't take it as a typo. I hope they are not MDs who need to think outside the box when making a diagnosis.
>
> --
> ~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~
> Peter Young wrote:
> >
> > Arcadian Rises wrote:
> >
> >> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> >> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
> >
> > Arcadian Rises wrote:
> >
> >> What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> >> Is "scrubs" too slangy? Is "doctor's smoke" too British?
> >
> > I never heard "doctor's smoke" in forty years of practice.
> >
> Smock?
> >
Obviously. My bad
I'm surprised other people didn't take it as a typo. I hope they are not MDs who need to think outside the box when making a diagnosis.
>
> --
> ~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~
Arcadian Rises
Jan 29, 2015, 1:27:04 PM1/29/15
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On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
[...]
> JE SUIS CHARLIE
JE SWISS BROKE.
Peter Young
Jan 29, 2015, 1:58:28 PM1/29/15
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On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
>> sleeves).
> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
And tend to hang into unclean parts.
> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
>> sleeves).
> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Re)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter Young
Jan 29, 2015, 1:58:30 PM1/29/15
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> On 2015-01-29, Ross wrote:
>> I think PM's comment was based on the fact that in the past, ad agencies
>> would dress some actor up in a white coat and have him face the camera and
>> tell you that Product X was good for you. Eventually this came to be
> "More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette"!
I've eaten smoked salmon, smoked trout, smoked venison, smoked eel and
>> I think PM's comment was based on the fact that in the past, ad agencies
>> would dress some actor up in a white coat and have him face the camera and
>> tell you that Product X was good for you. Eventually this came to be
> "More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette"!
smoked chicken, but I've never eaten smoked camel.
Peter T. Daniels
Jan 29, 2015, 1:59:45 PM1/29/15
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On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:21:36 PM UTC-5, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> "Hering salad" is a Danish name for a lot of medals and orders.
"herring" in English.
> "Hering salad" is a Danish name for a lot of medals and orders.
"Scrambled eggs" in disrespectful US slang, referring to the gold-braid
knotwork on high-ranking officers' sleeves and caps.
NB It puts paid to Damia's claim that "scrambling" eggs means 'beating' them.
Wayne Brown
Jan 29, 2015, 3:30:43 PM1/29/15
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 04:05:17 in article <MPG.2f3416353...@news.eternal-september.org> Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
> In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
> gram...@verizon.net says...
>>
> In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
> gram...@verizon.net says...
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>
>>
>> > I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
>> > thought that was only for TV doctors.
>>
>> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
>
> Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
> that's radically different from real doctors.
The average TV viewer probably wouldn't be able to tell which medical
>> > thought that was only for TV doctors.
>>
>> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
>
> Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
> that's radically different from real doctors.
procedures are done correctly on TV and which ones aren't. But they'd
certainly notice if the TV doctors dressed differently from the real
doctors they see in hospitals and clinics.
I think most Americans would be very surprised to encounter a doctor who
wasn't wearing a white coat in an office setting or examination room,
and might be inclined to doubt whether he's really a doctor.
--
F. Wayne Brown <fwb...@bellsouth.net>
Þæs ofereode, ðisses swa mæg. ("That passed away, this also can.")
from "Deor," in the Exeter Book (folios 100r-100v)
Adam Funk
Jan 29, 2015, 3:45:06 PM1/29/15
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On 2015-01-29, Peter Young wrote:
> On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
>
>>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
>>> sleeves).
>
>> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
>
> And tend to hang into unclean parts.
Well, tie it up a bit shorter then.
> On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
>
>>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
>>> sleeves).
>
>> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
>
> And tend to hang into unclean parts.
--
"It is the role of librarians to keep government running in difficult
times," replied Dramoren. "Librarians are the last line of defence
against chaos." (McMullen 2001)
Arcadian Rises
Jan 29, 2015, 3:50:28 PM1/29/15
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On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 3:30:43 PM UTC-5, Wayne Brown wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 04:05:17 in article <MPG.2f3416353...@news.eternal-september.org> Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
> > In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
> > gram...@verizon.net says...
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
> >>
> >> > I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
> >> > thought that was only for TV doctors.
> >>
> >> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
> >
> > Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
> > that's radically different from real doctors.
>
> The average TV viewer probably wouldn't be able to tell which medical
> procedures are done correctly on TV and which ones aren't. But they'd
> certainly notice if the TV doctors dressed differently from the real
> doctors they see in hospitals and clinics.
>
> I think most Americans would be very surprised to encounter a doctor who
> wasn't wearing a white coat in an office setting or examination room,
> and might be inclined to doubt whether he's really a doctor.
I assume you're talking about the TV dramas or sitcoms, which, of course are fiction, not documentary. You don't expect precision and accuracy in fiction, do you?
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 04:05:17 in article <MPG.2f3416353...@news.eternal-september.org> Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
> > In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
> > gram...@verizon.net says...
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
> >>
> >> > I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
> >> > thought that was only for TV doctors.
> >>
> >> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
> >
> > Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
> > that's radically different from real doctors.
>
> The average TV viewer probably wouldn't be able to tell which medical
> procedures are done correctly on TV and which ones aren't. But they'd
> certainly notice if the TV doctors dressed differently from the real
> doctors they see in hospitals and clinics.
>
> I think most Americans would be very surprised to encounter a doctor who
> wasn't wearing a white coat in an office setting or examination room,
> and might be inclined to doubt whether he's really a doctor.
Wayne Brown
Jan 29, 2015, 3:51:31 PM1/29/15
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 06:28:21 in article <548d90cd...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <mad54v$u82$1...@dont-email.me>, Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org>
> wrote:
>> On 29/01/15 21:16, Ross wrote:
>> associate them more with chemistry labs than with medicos. The
>> 'white-coated scientist' image has a long history.
>
> doesn't have to be chemistry. SWMBO - a biologist - wore one as a teacher.
Mainframe computer operators used to wear white lab coats, and so did
some electronics technicians. I was quite disappointed when I began my
first mainframe operations job in 1984 and didn't get a lab coat.
> In article <mad54v$u82$1...@dont-email.me>, Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org>
> wrote:
>> On 29/01/15 21:16, Ross wrote:
>> > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 11:05:20 PM UTC+13, Janet wrote:
>> >> In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
>> >> gram...@verizon.net says...
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white
>> >>>> coats. I thought that was only for TV doctors.
>> >>>
>> >>> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real
>> >>> doctors?
>> >>
>> >> Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
>> >> that's radically different from real doctors.
>> >
>> >> In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
>> >> gram...@verizon.net says...
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white
>> >>>> coats. I thought that was only for TV doctors.
>> >>>
>> >>> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real
>> >>> doctors?
>> >>
>> >> Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
>> >> that's radically different from real doctors.
>> >
>> > I think PM's comment was based on the fact that in the past, ad
>> > agencies would dress some actor up in a white coat and have him face
>> > the camera and tell you that Product X was good for you. Eventually
>> > agencies would dress some actor up in a white coat and have him face
>> > the camera and tell you that Product X was good for you. Eventually
>> > this came to be considered unethical. At a later stage I remember the
>> > line "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV", but can't remember who
>> > said it or in support of what product.
>
>> I think white coats do get some respect from the general public, but we
>> > line "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV", but can't remember who
>> > said it or in support of what product.
>
>> associate them more with chemistry labs than with medicos. The
>> 'white-coated scientist' image has a long history.
>
> doesn't have to be chemistry. SWMBO - a biologist - wore one as a teacher.
Mainframe computer operators used to wear white lab coats, and so did
some electronics technicians. I was quite disappointed when I began my
first mainframe operations job in 1984 and didn't get a lab coat.
Adam Funk
Jan 29, 2015, 4:15:09 PM1/29/15
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On 2015-01-29, Janet wrote:
> In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
> gram...@verizon.net says...
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>
>> > I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
>> > thought that was only for TV doctors.
>>
>> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
>
> Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
> that's radically different from real doctors.
Almost everything I know about doing surgery I learned from watching
> In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
> gram...@verizon.net says...
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>
>> > I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
>> > thought that was only for TV doctors.
>>
>> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
>
> Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
> that's radically different from real doctors.
_M*A*S*H_. Fortunately I haven't had to put it into practice.
--
I used to be better at logic problems, before I just dumped
them all into TeX and let Knuth pick out the survivors.
-- plorkwort
Adam Funk
Jan 29, 2015, 4:30:05 PM1/29/15
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On 2015-01-29, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 10:15:07 AM UTC-5, Adam Funk wrote:
>> On 2015-01-29, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 5:00:06 PM UTC-5, Adam Funk wrote:
>> >> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>> >> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace"; I
>> >> guess "overalls" covers both. I'm not sure if "boiler suit" is used
>> >> in AmE.
>>
>> (What I meant there was that I doubt "boiler suit" is used in AmE but
>> can't be sure it never is.)
>>
>> > To try to wrench the topic back to the unanswered question, I _think_ your
>> > "overall" (sg.) is our "coverall" -- a loose-fitting outer garment with
>> > arms and legs worn over ordinary clothes to protect them from the dirt or
>> > paint of the worksite.
>> >
>> > Our "overalls" are a garment like loose-fitting jeans with a bib and
>> > buttoned shoulder straps, traditionally worn by farmers, usually over
>> > a t-shirt.
>>
>> Well, I think (in AmE) "overalls" can refer to both kinds, whereas
>> "coverall" is only the first kind.
(I'd call the 2nd "bib overalls" if necessary to disambiguate.)
> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 10:15:07 AM UTC-5, Adam Funk wrote:
>> On 2015-01-29, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 5:00:06 PM UTC-5, Adam Funk wrote:
>> >> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>> >> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace"; I
>> >> guess "overalls" covers both. I'm not sure if "boiler suit" is used
>> >> in AmE.
>>
>> (What I meant there was that I doubt "boiler suit" is used in AmE but
>> can't be sure it never is.)
>>
>> > To try to wrench the topic back to the unanswered question, I _think_ your
>> > "overall" (sg.) is our "coverall" -- a loose-fitting outer garment with
>> > arms and legs worn over ordinary clothes to protect them from the dirt or
>> > paint of the worksite.
>> >
>> > Our "overalls" are a garment like loose-fitting jeans with a bib and
>> > buttoned shoulder straps, traditionally worn by farmers, usually over
>> > a t-shirt.
>>
>> Well, I think (in AmE) "overalls" can refer to both kinds, whereas
>> "coverall" is only the first kind.
> I haven't encountered "overalls" for "coverall," nor have I ever heard
> "boiler suit." "Boiled" somehow related to white tie, perhaps referring
> to the starching of the dickey; maybe in 30s movies, probably something
> like *My Man Godfrey*.
--
When a man tells you that he got rich through hard work, ask him
whose? --- Don Marquis
R H Draney
Jan 29, 2015, 4:51:01 PM1/29/15
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Mack A. Damia <mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:fitkcadm18amko4nt...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 17:54:23 +0000, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]"
> <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:09:16 +0000, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>
>>wrote:
>>>
news:fitkcadm18amko4nt...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 17:54:23 +0000, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]"
> <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:09:16 +0000, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>>I'd be pretty concerned if the doctor approached me in a boiler suit,
>>>yes.
>>
>>Doctor approaches carrying a pipe wrench: "Good morning. I see from
>>your records that you have a problem with your internal plumbing."
>>
>>Churchill wore a similar garment that was known as a "siren suit":
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_suit
>>
>>Today we have the "onespie":
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onesie_%28jumpsuit%29
>>
>>Boilersuit:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boilersuit
>
> "Coveralls" in the U.S.
>
> http://www.dickies.com/mens-clothing/mens-coveralls.jsp
Or "speedsuit" in the Venture Brothers cartoon series....r
>>>yes.
>>
>>Doctor approaches carrying a pipe wrench: "Good morning. I see from
>>your records that you have a problem with your internal plumbing."
>>
>>Churchill wore a similar garment that was known as a "siren suit":
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_suit
>>
>>Today we have the "onespie":
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onesie_%28jumpsuit%29
>>
>>Boilersuit:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boilersuit
>
> "Coveralls" in the U.S.
>
> http://www.dickies.com/mens-clothing/mens-coveralls.jsp
Adam Funk
Jan 29, 2015, 5:00:08 PM1/29/15
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On 2015-01-29, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:09:16 +0000, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 2015-01-28, Katy Jennison wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
>>
>>>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>>>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
>>>
>>> Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
>>> Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
>>
>>I'd be pretty concerned if the doctor approached me in a boiler suit,
>>yes.
>
> Doctor approaches carrying a pipe wrench: "Good morning. I see from your
> records that you have a problem with your internal plumbing."
Now I have to wonder about "external plumbing"....
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:09:16 +0000, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 2015-01-28, Katy Jennison wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
>>
>>>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
>>>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
>>>
>>> Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
>>> Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
>>
>>I'd be pretty concerned if the doctor approached me in a boiler suit,
>>yes.
>
> Doctor approaches carrying a pipe wrench: "Good morning. I see from your
> records that you have a problem with your internal plumbing."
--
"Gonzo, is that the contract from the devil?"
"No, Kermit, it's worse than that. This is the bill from special
effects."
Tony Cooper
Jan 29, 2015, 5:17:37 PM1/29/15
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 20:30:07 +0000 (UTC), Wayne Brown
<fwb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 04:05:17 in article <MPG.2f3416353...@news.eternal-september.org> Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
>> In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
>> gram...@verizon.net says...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>>
>>> > I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
>>> > thought that was only for TV doctors.
>>>
>>> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
>>
>> Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
>> that's radically different from real doctors.
>
>The average TV viewer probably wouldn't be able to tell which medical
>procedures are done correctly on TV and which ones aren't.
Neither my wife nor I are "average" in this context. She is a nurse
<fwb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 04:05:17 in article <MPG.2f3416353...@news.eternal-september.org> Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
>> In article <779bf095-2fe1-4bc2...@googlegroups.com>,
>> gram...@verizon.net says...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>>
>>> > I didn't realise, until you said it, that US doctors had white coats. I
>>> > thought that was only for TV doctors.
>>>
>>> why would TV doctors wear something radically different from real doctors?
>>
>> Maybe for the same reason they perfom medical procedures in a way
>> that's radically different from real doctors.
>
>The average TV viewer probably wouldn't be able to tell which medical
>procedures are done correctly on TV and which ones aren't.
who was working as an operating room scrub nurse when we met. I spent
my entire business life selling surgical instruments and specialized
surgical products to hospitals.
Some shows are better than others at authenticity. Grey's Anatomy is
fairly authentic in operating room scenes. It strays far from
authenticity in general hospital procedure. You will never find the
surgical team lined up outside the ER waiting for the ambulances to
unload patients as the GA surgeons do. If there is a true disaster,
there would be a team doing triage as the patents are brought in, but
that team won't include the senior staff of surgeons or even the
residents. The point of disaster triage is determining which patients
will be sent where in the hospital, and the actual surgeons will be
there and waiting.
I have photographed, for the hospital, two disaster drills held here.
One was mock commercial airline crash and the second was a mass
shooting at a public gathering. The triage staff are trained in
triage, not surgery. Victims are tagged by the triage staff to
indicate where in the hospital they should be taken and the estimated
level of injury. Surgeons don't go out into the driveway to meet
patients. They would have to change clothes before returning to the
surgical theater.
What my wife and I find most laughable is the sexual activity in every
supply closet at "Seattle Grace". We can't figure out how these
surgeons have the time and energy to actually perform surgery.
What bothers me most about the "staff" at Seattle Grace is the absence
of Indian and Pakistani doctors. It would be the only hospital in the
US without a generous representation of doctors from those countries.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
Janet
Jan 29, 2015, 5:20:30 PM1/29/15
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In article <8jmqpbx...@news.ducksburg.com>, a24...@ducksburg.com
says...
Janet.
says...
>
> On 2015-01-29, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:09:16 +0000, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On 2015-01-28, Katy Jennison wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
> >>>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
> >>>
> >>> Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
> >>> Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
> >>
> >>I'd be pretty concerned if the doctor approached me in a boiler suit,
> >>yes.
> >
> > Doctor approaches carrying a pipe wrench: "Good morning. I see from your
> > records that you have a problem with your internal plumbing."
>
> Now I have to wonder about "external plumbing"....
You're a chap, you've got external plumbing.
> On 2015-01-29, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:09:16 +0000, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On 2015-01-28, Katy Jennison wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 28/01/2015 21:51, Adam Funk wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I think (but am not 100% sure) that "boiler suit" in BrE refers to the
> >>>> sleeved kind, whereas the sleeveless strapped kind is "bib & brace";
> >>>
> >>> Pretty much, yes, although both those terms are rather dated now.
> >>> Neither of them is used for the sort of thing a doctor might wear, though.
> >>
> >>I'd be pretty concerned if the doctor approached me in a boiler suit,
> >>yes.
> >
> > Doctor approaches carrying a pipe wrench: "Good morning. I see from your
> > records that you have a problem with your internal plumbing."
>
> Now I have to wonder about "external plumbing"....
Janet.
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Peter T. Daniels
Jan 29, 2015, 6:03:40 PM1/29/15
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On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:17:37 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
> Neither my wife nor I are
Oy!
> Neither my wife nor I are
Wayne Brown
Jan 29, 2015, 6:35:07 PM1/29/15
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 14:30:28 in article <4shqpbx...@news.ducksburg.com> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> On 2015-01-29, Peter Young wrote:
>
>> On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
>>
>>>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
>>>> sleeves).
>>
>>> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
>>
>> And tend to hang into unclean parts.
>
> Well, tie it up a bit shorter then.
Or wear a tie clasp.
> On 2015-01-29, Peter Young wrote:
>
>> On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
>>
>>>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
>>>> sleeves).
>>
>>> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
>>
>> And tend to hang into unclean parts.
>
> Well, tie it up a bit shorter then.
I welcome opportunities to wear a tie (which, these days, come all too
seldom). It gives me a chance to wear my favorite tie clasp, which is
a miniature, working slide rule.
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Peter Moylan
Jan 29, 2015, 8:27:21 PM1/29/15
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after neither .. nor, but in this case both "is" and "am" look and sound
silly.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
JE SUIS CHARLIE
Peter Moylan
Jan 29, 2015, 8:39:22 PM1/29/15
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On 30/01/15 04:01, Justin Thyme wrote:
> I did once see a doctor wearing a rugby shirt. Unfortunately he was not
> treating me. Had he been doing so I would have said he was
> indistinguishable from someone who had walked in off the street, so
> could I please see his documentation proving that he was, indeed
> qualified to treat me. One should never miss an opportunity to piss off
> members of the profession.
Most of the medical doctors I deal with look as if they had walked in
off the street. The exception is in operating theatres, but even there
the person wearing scrubs is just as likely to be a medical technician
or similar.
Of course I've heard the joke about the painters who used their white
coats to let them examine hospital patients, but in my experience people
don't usually use a uniform as a proof of competence. Perhaps that's
because I've met too many army people.
> I did once see a doctor wearing a rugby shirt. Unfortunately he was not
> treating me. Had he been doing so I would have said he was
> indistinguishable from someone who had walked in off the street, so
> could I please see his documentation proving that he was, indeed
> qualified to treat me. One should never miss an opportunity to piss off
> members of the profession.
Most of the medical doctors I deal with look as if they had walked in
off the street. The exception is in operating theatres, but even there
the person wearing scrubs is just as likely to be a medical technician
or similar.
Of course I've heard the joke about the painters who used their white
coats to let them examine hospital patients, but in my experience people
don't usually use a uniform as a proof of competence. Perhaps that's
because I've met too many army people.
Peter Moylan
Jan 29, 2015, 8:42:33 PM1/29/15
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On 30/01/15 05:55, Peter Young wrote:
> On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
>
>>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
>>> sleeves).
>
>> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
>
> And tend to hang into unclean parts.
They're banned in engineering labs because of what happens when you
> On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
>
>>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
>>> sleeves).
>
>> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
>
> And tend to hang into unclean parts.
dangle one into a rotating machine.
Mark Brader
Jan 29, 2015, 8:42:59 PM1/29/15
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Tony Cooper:
> The more formal attire for a doctor not in surgery is a long white
> jacket over street clothes.
Agreed.
> The jacket will have his name and "M.D" embroidered on the jacket...
> he is one of the lesser mortals.
That doesn't seem usual to me, though I may have seen it sometime. In
their own offices people know who they are, and in a hospital I'd expect
them to be wearing a hospital-issued badge with their name and position.
--
Mark Brader | "Courtly love-poetry may first have been written
Toronto | during long periods of abstinence on the Crusades,
m...@vex.net | but it would not have flourished in the cold of
| northern Europe without some help from the chimney."
| -- James Burke
My text in this article is in the public domain.
> The more formal attire for a doctor not in surgery is a long white
> jacket over street clothes.
Agreed.
> The jacket will have his name and "M.D" embroidered on the jacket...
> he is one of the lesser mortals.
That doesn't seem usual to me, though I may have seen it sometime. In
their own offices people know who they are, and in a hospital I'd expect
them to be wearing a hospital-issued badge with their name and position.
--
Mark Brader | "Courtly love-poetry may first have been written
Toronto | during long periods of abstinence on the Crusades,
m...@vex.net | but it would not have flourished in the cold of
| northern Europe without some help from the chimney."
| -- James Burke
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Mark Brader
Jan 29, 2015, 8:47:43 PM1/29/15
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> > What do you call, formally and informally, a doctor's overall?
> How about "doctor's white coat"?
Ah, good point. I posted this here less than a year ago:
Doctor, doctor, in your white coat,
Doctor, doctor, cut my throat.
And when you've finished, doctor, then
Won't you sew it up again?
--Isaac Asimov, improvising before surgery (quoted from memory)
--
Mark Brader | "Fortunately, [this newsgroup] contains one of the world's
Toronto | largest herds of free-roaming pedants, thundering majestically
m...@vex.net | across the virtual plains..." -- Michael Wojcik
David Kleinecke
Jan 29, 2015, 8:53:41 PM1/29/15
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John Varela
Jan 29, 2015, 9:36:02 PM1/29/15
to
On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 20:50:56 UTC, Wayne Brown
<fwb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Mainframe computer operators used to wear white lab coats, and so did
> some electronics technicians. I was quite disappointed when I began my
> first mainframe operations job in 1984 and didn't get a lab coat.
Something like this? https://db.tt/P31A9wbi
<fwb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Mainframe computer operators used to wear white lab coats, and so did
> some electronics technicians. I was quite disappointed when I began my
> first mainframe operations job in 1984 and didn't get a lab coat.
--
John Varela
John Varela
Jan 29, 2015, 9:44:51 PM1/29/15
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 17:01:42 UTC, Justin Thyme
<Justi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I did once see a doctor wearing a rugby shirt. Unfortunately he was not
> treating me. Had he been doing so I would have said he was
> indistinguishable from someone who had walked in off the street, so
> could I please see his documentation proving that he was, indeed
> qualified to treat me. One should never miss an opportunity to piss off
> members of the profession.
About fifty years ago I had moved to a new city and started with a
<Justi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I did once see a doctor wearing a rugby shirt. Unfortunately he was not
> treating me. Had he been doing so I would have said he was
> indistinguishable from someone who had walked in off the street, so
> could I please see his documentation proving that he was, indeed
> qualified to treat me. One should never miss an opportunity to piss off
> members of the profession.
new dentist. In those days dental personnel didn't wear face masks
or gloves. The dental hygienist in this office came in wearing blue
jeans and a checked shirt. I wasn't thrilled at the idea of someone
who looked like she had just stepped out of a barn putting her
fingers in my mouth. I never went back there.
--
John Varela
John Varela
Jan 29, 2015, 9:46:04 PM1/29/15
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 01:42:29 UTC, Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org>
wrote:
> On 30/01/15 05:55, Peter Young wrote:
> > On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
> >
> >>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
> >>> sleeves).
> >
> >> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
> >
> > And tend to hang into unclean parts.
>
> They're banned in engineering labs because of what happens when you
> dangle one into a rotating machine.
And keep it out of the office shredder.
--
John Varela
wrote:
> On 30/01/15 05:55, Peter Young wrote:
> > On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
> >
> >>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
> >>> sleeves).
> >
> >> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
> >
> > And tend to hang into unclean parts.
>
> They're banned in engineering labs because of what happens when you
> dangle one into a rotating machine.
--
John Varela
Tony Cooper
Jan 29, 2015, 9:49:22 PM1/29/15
to
On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:42:57 -0600, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
>Tony Cooper:
>> The more formal attire for a doctor not in surgery is a long white
>> jacket over street clothes.
>
>Agreed.
>
>> The jacket will have his name and "M.D" embroidered on the jacket...
>> he is one of the lesser mortals.
>
>That doesn't seem usual to me, though I may have seen it sometime. In
>their own offices people know who they are, and in a hospital I'd expect
>them to be wearing a hospital-issued badge with their name and position.
http://www.orlandohealth.com/MediaBank/Images/Sheikh_Headshot_Resized.jpg
>Tony Cooper:
>> The more formal attire for a doctor not in surgery is a long white
>> jacket over street clothes.
>
>Agreed.
>
>> The jacket will have his name and "M.D" embroidered on the jacket...
>> he is one of the lesser mortals.
>
>That doesn't seem usual to me, though I may have seen it sometime. In
>their own offices people know who they are, and in a hospital I'd expect
>them to be wearing a hospital-issued badge with their name and position.
is what I'm used to seeing. (Don't know the doc, though) The badge
would be attached to the lab coat when in the hospital.
Peter T. Daniels
Jan 29, 2015, 11:30:06 PM1/29/15
to
On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:27:21 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 30/01/15 10:03, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:17:37 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >
> >> Neither my wife nor I are
> >
> > Oy!
>
> What would you say, then? I know that the singular is usually called for
> after neither .. nor, but in this case both "is" and "am" look and sound
> silly.
Is. No question.
> On 30/01/15 10:03, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:17:37 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >
> >> Neither my wife nor I are
> >
> > Oy!
>
> What would you say, then? I know that the singular is usually called for
> after neither .. nor, but in this case both "is" and "am" look and sound
> silly.
Peter T. Daniels
Jan 29, 2015, 11:31:18 PM1/29/15
to
On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:42:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 30/01/15 05:55, Peter Young wrote:
> > On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
> >
> >>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
> >>> sleeves).
> >
> >> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
> >
> > And tend to hang into unclean parts.
>
> They're banned in engineering labs because of what happens when you
> dangle one into a rotating machine.
Isn't that called a Darwin Award?
> On 30/01/15 05:55, Peter Young wrote:
> > On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
> >
> >>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
> >>> sleeves).
> >
> >> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
> >
> > And tend to hang into unclean parts.
>
> They're banned in engineering labs because of what happens when you
> dangle one into a rotating machine.
Charles Bishop
Jan 30, 2015, 1:54:31 AM1/30/15
to
In article <075aeb1f-15ba-4ca5...@googlegroups.com>,
"Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:21:36 PM UTC-5, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>
> > "Hering salad" is a Danish name for a lot of medals and orders.
>
> "herring" in English.
>
> "Scrambled eggs" in disrespectful US slang, referring to the gold-braid
> knotwork on high-ranking officers' sleeves and caps.
>
> NB It puts paid to Damia's claim that "scrambling" eggs means 'beating' them.
No it doesn't.
--
charles, you can probably figure out why
"Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:21:36 PM UTC-5, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>
> > "Hering salad" is a Danish name for a lot of medals and orders.
>
> "herring" in English.
>
> "Scrambled eggs" in disrespectful US slang, referring to the gold-braid
> knotwork on high-ranking officers' sleeves and caps.
>
> NB It puts paid to Damia's claim that "scrambling" eggs means 'beating' them.
No it doesn't.
--
charles, you can probably figure out why
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Bertel Lund Hansen
Jan 30, 2015, 4:07:37 AM1/30/15
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John Varela skrev:
> About fifty years ago I had moved to a new city and started with a
> new dentist. In those days dental personnel didn't wear face masks
> or gloves. The dental hygienist in this office came in wearing blue
> jeans and a checked shirt. I wasn't thrilled at the idea of someone
> who looked like she had just stepped out of a barn putting her
> fingers in my mouth. I never went back there.
In my previous town I had two excellent doctors, husband and
wife. Now they are four becuase their two boys have joined them.
I was not entirely comfortable with the woman (it's a long
story), but she is a good doctor. Once I went there and was shown
into her room, she was wearing ordinary clothes and had used
perfume. That made me so uncomfortable that from then on I asked
to see one of the other doctors.
On previous occasions she and the males had worn a white coat as
it is customary for doctors in Denmark. I do not know if this was
a one off since I haven't seen her since.
--
Bertel, Denmark
> About fifty years ago I had moved to a new city and started with a
> new dentist. In those days dental personnel didn't wear face masks
> or gloves. The dental hygienist in this office came in wearing blue
> jeans and a checked shirt. I wasn't thrilled at the idea of someone
> who looked like she had just stepped out of a barn putting her
> fingers in my mouth. I never went back there.
wife. Now they are four becuase their two boys have joined them.
I was not entirely comfortable with the woman (it's a long
story), but she is a good doctor. Once I went there and was shown
into her room, she was wearing ordinary clothes and had used
perfume. That made me so uncomfortable that from then on I asked
to see one of the other doctors.
On previous occasions she and the males had worn a white coat as
it is customary for doctors in Denmark. I do not know if this was
a one off since I haven't seen her since.
--
Bertel, Denmark
Bertel Lund Hansen
Jan 30, 2015, 4:08:34 AM1/30/15
to
Wayne Brown skrev:
> I welcome opportunities to wear a tie (which, these days, come all too
> seldom). It gives me a chance to wear my favorite tie clasp, which is
> a miniature, working slide rule.
Beautiful. Next generation will have a miniature working
calculator.
--
Bertel, Denmark
> I welcome opportunities to wear a tie (which, these days, come all too
> seldom). It gives me a chance to wear my favorite tie clasp, which is
> a miniature, working slide rule.
calculator.
--
Bertel, Denmark
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charles
Jan 30, 2015, 5:01:01 AM1/30/15
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In article <27745ff8-a038-413a...@googlegroups.com>,
I think the ban (which I met in 1959) started long before the Darwin Awards
--
From KT24 in Surrey
Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18
Peter T. Daniels <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
--
From KT24 in Surrey
Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18
charles
Jan 30, 2015, 5:01:01 AM1/30/15
to
In article <maenh5$685$2...@dont-email.me>,
Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org> wrote:
> On 30/01/15 05:55, Peter Young wrote:
> > On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
> >
> >>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
> >>> sleeves).
> >
> >> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
> >
> > And tend to hang into unclean parts.
> They're banned in engineering labs because of what happens when you
> dangle one into a rotating machine.
That's why the bow tie was invented
> On 30/01/15 05:55, Peter Young wrote:
> > On 29 Jan 2015 Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-01-28, Janet wrote:
> >
> >>> The NHS banned those white jackets years ago (and ties, and long
> >>> sleeves).
> >
> >> Ties are unsanitary because they are difficult to launder.
> >
> > And tend to hang into unclean parts.
> They're banned in engineering labs because of what happens when you
> dangle one into a rotating machine.
Steve Hayes
Jan 30, 2015, 5:06:57 AM1/30/15
to
On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:27:02 -0800 (PST), Arcadian Rises
<Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
>
>[...]
>> JE SUIS CHARLIE
>
>JE SWISS BROKE.
Je suis Edward Snowden.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
<Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
>
>[...]
>> JE SUIS CHARLIE
>
>JE SWISS BROKE.
Je suis Edward Snowden.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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