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David Kleinecke

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May 1, 2014, 12:12:05 AM5/1/14
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There is an old American folk(?) song that starts like this

There was a little man and he had a little can
And he used to rush the growler
He went to the saloon on a Sunday afternoon
And you ought to hear the bartender holler

Chorus:
No more booze, no more booze
No more booze on Sunday
No more booze, no more booze
Got to get your can filled Monday

This would all be ancient history except I just channel-surfed
into a cooking program where the cook was demonstrating beer
recipes and he did something with the growler commenting as he
went that he didn't know why whatever it was was called a
growler.

Carl Sandburg in his 1927 "The American Songbag" has the song -
called "No More Booze (Fireman Save My Child)". He explains
"rush the growler" as referring "to any receptacle such as a
pitcher, a pail, a bucket or a tin can in which draught beer
was carried from the bar of a saloon to adjacent premises ..."

What I am curious about is (1) what does growler mean today?
and (2) does the idiom "rush the growler" survive?

PS for completists

The chorus is said to have a second half
She's the only girl I have
With a face like a horse and buggy
Leaning up against the lake
O fireman! save my child.
And there is said to be a second verse
The chambermaid came to my door
"Get up, you lazy sinner"
We need those sheets for table-clothes
And it's almost time for dinner.


Tony Cooper

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May 1, 2014, 12:19:37 AM5/1/14
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:12:05 -0700 (PDT), David Kleinecke
<dklei...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>What I am curious about is (1) what does growler mean today?
>and (2) does the idiom "rush the growler" survive?

Your timing is good. Just this week the Florida legislature is voting
on a "Growler Bill".
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL

Tony Cooper

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May 1, 2014, 12:46:13 AM5/1/14
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:12:05 -0700 (PDT), David Kleinecke
<dklei...@gmail.com> wrote:


>What I am curious about is (1) what does growler mean today?

A "growler" is a 64 ounce container of beer. The Florida legislature
is currently voting on a bill to allow the sale of "growlers".

Currently, it is illegal to sell beer in that size container. Florida
law regulates the size the container in which beer is sold.

Micro-breweries - craft beers - want to distribute their product in
the 64 ounce size. The "beer lobby" - the large producers of beer and
the distributors - does not want this bill passed.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/blogs/political-pulse/os-beergrowler-bill-sails-through-onceopposed-house-panel-20140211,0,1159675.post

In the past, a "growler" was a container carried to a tavern by a
person, and the tavern would fill the container with beer. Beer
take-out, so to speak.

My father-in-law, in the 1940s, used to send my now-wife to his
favorite Rockford (Illinois) tap (a term for a tavern) with his
growler. His was a tin bucket, but my wife doesn't have any idea of
how many ounces of beer it contained.

No problem, in those days, for a tavern owner to fill the growler
brought in a by child younger than 10 as long as the father was known.
And, her father was known in that tavern. My wife was also sent to
that tavern on Friday afternoons to pick up her father's pay envelope
before he spent the contents, but that errand was designed by her
mother.

"Rushing the growler" was an expression used to describe children
bringing growlers of beer to the workplace for their father's lunch.

Coincidently, my wife was just talking about doing this in a
conversation last week when the "Growler Bill" was written about in
the newspaper. She knew what a "growler" is, but not that it is a
specific size today and that it now describes a glass bottle.

>and (2) does the idiom "rush the growler" survive?

Well, it wouldn't since the practice is now illegal.

Ross

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May 1, 2014, 1:00:12 AM5/1/14
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On Thursday, May 1, 2014 4:12:05 PM UTC+12, David Kleinecke wrote:
> There is an old American folk(?) song that starts like this
>
> There was a little man and he had a little can
> And he used to rush the growler
> He went to the saloon on a Sunday afternoon
> And you ought to hear the bartender holler
>
> Chorus:
> No more booze, no more booze
> No more booze on Sunday
> No more booze, no more booze
> Got to get your can filled Monday
>
> This would all be ancient history except I just channel-surfed
> into a cooking program where the cook was demonstrating beer
> recipes and he did something with the growler commenting as he
> went that he didn't know why whatever it was was called a
> growler.
>
> Carl Sandburg in his 1927 "The American Songbag" has the song -
> called "No More Booze (Fireman Save My Child)". He explains
> "rush the growler" as referring "to any receptacle such as a
> pitcher, a pail, a bucket or a tin can in which draught beer
> was carried from the bar of a saloon to adjacent premises ..."
>
> What I am curious about is (1) what does growler mean today?
> and (2) does the idiom "rush the growler" survive?

The examples in Green run up to 1996, but don't suggest
current usage any later than the 30s.

> PS for completists
>
> The chorus is said to have a second half
> She's the only girl I have
> With a face like a horse and buggy
> Leaning up against the lake
> O fireman! save my child.
>
> And there is said to be a second verse
> The chambermaid came to my door
> "Get up, you lazy sinner"
> We need those sheets for table-clothes
> And it's almost time for dinner.

:D

John Varela

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May 1, 2014, 6:50:50 PM5/1/14
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I recall as a child of 10 or 11 being sent to the liquor store to
pick up a jug of wine. The reason I recall it is because it was hard
to carry it with one or two fingers through that little loop of
glass that they put on wine jugs. That was in New Orleans and my
parents were known.

--
John Varela

David Kleinecke

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May 1, 2014, 7:27:29 PM5/1/14
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On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:46:13 PM UTC-7, Tony Cooper wrote:

> A "growler" is a 64 ounce container of beer. The Florida legislature
> is currently voting on a bill to allow the sale of "growlers".

Well, that is official enough for Florida. I did not get a clear
view of what the man TV called a growler but I think it must have
been a less than 64-oz container.

People outside of Florida may have a different idea of what a
growler is.

Tony Cooper

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May 1, 2014, 9:44:50 PM5/1/14
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James Silverton

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May 2, 2014, 8:01:31 AM5/2/14
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"Growler" has been used for used for many different things. I had
remembered the use for a horse-drawn carriage but see the Wikipedia page
for growler.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

Robert Bannister

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May 2, 2014, 6:29:38 PM5/2/14
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And small iceberg-like things.

--
Robert Bannister - 1940-71 SE England
1972-now W Australia
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