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tonbei

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May 14, 2015, 1:18:46 PM5/14/15
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Let me ask a question about the following sentences from a novel.

Candy canes brightly stood sentry along his sidewalk, and lights spelled
out Season's Greetings and Think Snow on the roof.
(Black Notice by P. Cornwell )

context: Here's a man who has a hobby of decorating around his house with Christmas things.
question: about "Think Snow"
I couldn't get its meaning well.

Is it something like a spell? If you think of snow, it would snow although there is no snow now.

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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May 14, 2015, 1:30:00 PM5/14/15
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Well I'm not sure, but I think it means you should try to think of a
white Christmas even if the temperature's in the 40s (Celsius).

Just to satisfy my curiosity, tonbei, do you confine your English
reading entirely to the works of Patricia Cornwell? She's not the only
writer currently writing in English.


--
athel

Peter T. Daniels

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May 14, 2015, 2:28:06 PM5/14/15
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 1:18:46 PM UTC-4, tonbei wrote:

> Candy canes brightly stood sentry along his sidewalk, and lights spelled
> out Season's Greetings and Think Snow on the roof.
> (Black Notice by P. Cornwell )
>
> context: Here's a man who has a hobby of decorating around his house with Christmas things.
> question: about "Think Snow"
> I couldn't get its meaning well.
>
> Is it something like a spell? If you think of snow, it would snow although there is no snow now.

"I'm dreaming of a White Christmas ..."

The sentence also makes it clear that his is a thoroughly secular Winter Holiday.

bert

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May 14, 2015, 2:44:22 PM5/14/15
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On Thursday, 14 May 2015 18:18:46 UTC+1, tonbei wrote:
> . . . lights spelled out Season's Greetings and Think Snow on the roof.
> Is it something like a spell? If you think of snow, it would snow
> although there is no snow now.

No, it's saying that it's Christmas, so there ought to be snow,
but because there is no snow now, and very probably there won't
be any, you will just have to imagine that there is some snow.
--

CDB

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May 14, 2015, 2:46:57 PM5/14/15
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"Think" followed by a bare noun as direct object is an idiom -- mostly
American, I think. The online American Heritage Dictionary has this entry:

"To concentrate one's thoughts on; keep as a point of focus: Think victory."

It's sometimes used as a way of suggesting context: consider <some
topic>, perhaps even <life, the universe and everything> in relation to
snow.


Bertel Lund Hansen

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May 14, 2015, 3:36:56 PM5/14/15
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bert skrev:

> No, it's saying that it's Christmas, so there ought to be snow,
> but because there is no snow now, and very probably there won't
> be any, you will just have to imagine that there is some snow.

That reminds me of a Christmas card I got from my two daughters
who at the time were staying for a fortnight in South Africa. The
card was a picture of them both on a sunny beach with nice, blue
water - taken on December the 24th. They had a hard time getting
into a Christmas mood because it was so different from a Danish
December.

--
Bertel, Kolt, Denmark

Tony Cooper

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May 14, 2015, 3:40:38 PM5/14/15
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 10:18:43 -0700 (PDT), tonbei <in...@trapeze7.com>
wrote:
I gave up on Cornwell some time ago because it seemed that she was
recycling plots.

However, I see that "Black Notice" is partially set in Richmond,
Virginia. While it does snow in Richmond around Christmas sometimes,
this chart says the total snowfall in Richmond in December is often 0
inches.

http://weather-warehouse.com/WeatherHistory/PastWeatherData_RichmondIntlArpt_Richmond_VA_December.html

Therefore, a "Think Snow" sign on the roof of a house could be a
suggestion to pretend there's snow on the roof because the visual
concept of Christmas is snow on the rooftops.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL

Horace LaBadie

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May 14, 2015, 3:43:30 PM5/14/15
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In article <8325a3a1-5ec4-4b84...@googlegroups.com>,
"Think Pink."

It's asking people to enter into a state of mind or the spirit of the
season.

Tony Cooper

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May 14, 2015, 3:53:55 PM5/14/15
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 14:46:53 -0400, CDB <belle...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 14/05/2015 1:18 PM, tonbei wrote:
>
>> Let me ask a question about the following sentences from a novel.
>
>> Candy canes brightly stood sentry along his sidewalk, and lights
>> spelled out Season's Greetings and Think Snow on the roof. (Black
>> Notice by P. Cornwell )
>
>> context: Here's a man who has a hobby of decorating around his house
>> with Christmas things. question: about "Think Snow" I couldn't get
>> its meaning well.
>
>> Is it something like a spell? If you think of snow, it would snow
>> although there is no snow now.
>
>"Think" followed by a bare noun as direct object is an idiom -- mostly
>American, I think. The online American Heritage Dictionary has this entry:
>

I thought it was spelled "THIMK".

Joe Fineman

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May 14, 2015, 6:27:15 PM5/14/15
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When I was a child in southern California, we often derided the
Christmas-card winter hoopla by observing that the climate of Palestine
was pretty close to that of southern California.
--
--- Joe Fineman jo...@verizon.net

||: November: the eleventh twelfth of a weariness. :||

R H Draney

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May 14, 2015, 6:47:56 PM5/14/15
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Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:b8v9latfuhcc7supv...@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 14 May 2015 14:46:53 -0400, CDB <belle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 14/05/2015 1:18 PM, tonbei wrote:
>>
>>> context: Here's a man who has a hobby of decorating around his house
>>> with Christmas things. question: about "Think Snow" I couldn't get
>>> its meaning well.
>>
>>"Think" followed by a bare noun as direct object is an idiom -- mostly
>>American, I think. The online American Heritage Dictionary has this
>>entry:
>
> I thought it was spelled "THIMK".

Krusty: "Listen, about the Ribwich. We won’t be making them anymore. The
animal we made them from is now extinct."

Homer: "The pig?"

Otto: "The cow?"

Krusty: "You’re way off. Think smaller...think more legs."

....r

Horace LaBadie

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May 14, 2015, 7:44:38 PM5/14/15
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In article <84bnhm2...@verizon.net>,
Joe Fineman <jo...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Bertel Lund Hansen <gade...@lundhansen.dk> writes:
>
> > bert skrev:
> >
> >> No, it's saying that it's Christmas, so there ought to be snow,
> >> but because there is no snow now, and very probably there won't
> >> be any, you will just have to imagine that there is some snow.
> >
> > That reminds me of a Christmas card I got from my two daughters
> > who at the time were staying for a fortnight in South Africa. The
> > card was a picture of them both on a sunny beach with nice, blue
> > water - taken on December the 24th. They had a hard time getting
> > into a Christmas mood because it was so different from a Danish
> > December.
>
> When I was a child in southern California, we often derided the
> Christmas-card winter hoopla by observing that the climate of Palestine
> was pretty close to that of southern California.

Irving Berlin wrote White Christmas about Beverly Hills,

CDB

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May 14, 2015, 8:10:46 PM5/14/15
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On 14/05/2015 6:47 PM, R H Draney wrote:
> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:b8v9latfuhcc7supv...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 14 May 2015 14:46:53 -0400, CDB <belle...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 14/05/2015 1:18 PM, tonbei wrote:

>>>> context: Here's a man who has a hobby of decorating around his
>>>> house with Christmas things. question: about "Think Snow" I
>>>> couldn't get its meaning well.

>>> "Think" followed by a bare noun as direct object is an idiom --
>>> mostly American, I think. The online American Heritage
>>> Dictionary has this entry:

>> I thought it was spelled "THIMK".

In that use, the verb contains its own object, unlike the use in "think
a head.

> Krusty: "Listen, about the Ribwich. We won’t be making them anymore.
> The animal we made them from is now extinct."

> Homer: "The pig?"

> Otto: "The cow?"

> Krusty: "You’re way off. Think smaller...think more legs."

And it may be different again in "Think blue, count two". Looking that
up in GooBoo, I found a very interesting essay on Smith's work, written
by Ursula Le Guin. My newsclient won't let me post the URL ("too many
characters"), but the hit is on the first page of results for the phrase.




Peter Moylan

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May 14, 2015, 10:09:13 PM5/14/15
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I once had the opposite feeling when I was in Northern California for
Christmas. I felt that tradition demanded that I go to the beach on
Christmas Day, but there were no decent beaches in the San Francisco Bay
area. I ended up swimming in the bay.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

tonbei

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May 15, 2015, 6:09:19 AM5/15/15
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>
> Just to satisfy my curiosity, tonbei, do you confine your English
> reading entirely to the works of Patricia Cornwell? She's not the only
> writer currently writing in English.
>
>
> --
> athel

Thanks for your quick reply.

I've read many writers like Ed McBain, Dick Francis, Tom Clancy, A.C.Clarke, A.Christie, A. Hemingway, J.Steinbeck, etc.
Acutally, from whose works I've quoted to question here.

I happen to pick up P.Cornwell's works many times here , perhaps many more times than any other ones,
because it's my way to repeat going through the works I once read agian and again.

Jerry Friedman

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May 15, 2015, 10:02:53 AM5/15/15
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I agree, though there may some aspect of magical thinking too. (I feel
sure there was in "Visualize World Peace".)

I associate "Think Snow" more with skiing with Christmas, but I'm
probably not entitled to an opinion, since I don't do either.

--
Jerry Friedman

Charles Bishop

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May 15, 2015, 12:01:54 PM5/15/15
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In article <d5u9laddjdjm3due8...@4ax.com>,
Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 May 2015 10:18:43 -0700 (PDT), tonbei <in...@trapeze7.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Let me ask a question about the following sentences from a novel.
> >
> >Candy canes brightly stood sentry along his sidewalk, and lights spelled
> >out Season's Greetings and Think Snow on the roof.
> >(Black Notice by P. Cornwell )
> >
> >context: Here's a man who has a hobby of decorating around his house with
> >Christmas things.
> >question: about "Think Snow"
> >I couldn't get its meaning well.
> >
> >Is it something like a spell? If you think of snow, it would snow although
> >there is no snow now.
>
> I gave up on Cornwell some time ago because it seemed that she was
> recycling plots.

I gave up on Cornwell many years ago, when, just as she needed to
investigate a sunken something, she just happened to have dive equipment
in her car.
>
> However, I see that "Black Notice" is partially set in Richmond,
> Virginia. While it does snow in Richmond around Christmas sometimes,
> this chart says the total snowfall in Richmond in December is often 0
> inches.
>
> http://weather-warehouse.com/WeatherHistory/PastWeatherData_RichmondIntlArpt_R
> ichmond_VA_December.html
>
> Therefore, a "Think Snow" sign on the roof of a house could be a
> suggestion to pretend there's snow on the roof because the visual
> concept of Christmas is snow on the rooftops.

That's probably a correct one for the scene in the book.

However, it's likely there are many interpretations. The one I have from
days in SoCal was that "Think Snow" was an instruction to wish for snow
to fall so that there would be good skiing. A kind of magical thinking
that wasn't to be taken too seriously, but to bond like minded people
together in the hope for snow.

We had to drive to it, but still wanted it to fall.

There may be some today, in mountain communities such as Big Bear after
the recent "rainstorm". "Rainstorm" since I got 0.39 inch which I don't
consider a storm.

--
charles

Charles Bishop

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May 15, 2015, 12:03:08 PM5/15/15
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In article <b8v9latfuhcc7supv...@4ax.com>,
IBM jocularity, innit?

Also PLAN AHEA
d

--
charles

Charles Bishop

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May 15, 2015, 12:05:20 PM5/15/15
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In article <84bnhm2...@verizon.net>,
Joe Fineman <jo...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Bertel Lund Hansen <gade...@lundhansen.dk> writes:
>
> > bert skrev:
> >
> >> No, it's saying that it's Christmas, so there ought to be snow,
> >> but because there is no snow now, and very probably there won't
> >> be any, you will just have to imagine that there is some snow.
> >
> > That reminds me of a Christmas card I got from my two daughters
> > who at the time were staying for a fortnight in South Africa. The
> > card was a picture of them both on a sunny beach with nice, blue
> > water - taken on December the 24th. They had a hard time getting
> > into a Christmas mood because it was so different from a Danish
> > December.
>
> When I was a child in southern California, we often derided the
> Christmas-card winter hoopla by observing that the climate of Palestine
> was pretty close to that of southern California.

Mele Kalikimaka

Charles, with a coconut tree cluster

GordonD

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May 15, 2015, 3:44:01 PM5/15/15
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On 14/05/2015 19:46, CDB wrote:
> On 14/05/2015 1:18 PM, tonbei wrote:
>
>> Let me ask a question about the following sentences from a novel.
>
>> Candy canes brightly stood sentry along his sidewalk, and lights
>> spelled out Season's Greetings and Think Snow on the roof. (Black
>> Notice by P. Cornwell )
>
>> context: Here's a man who has a hobby of decorating around his house
>> with Christmas things. question: about "Think Snow" I couldn't get
>> its meaning well.
>
>> Is it something like a spell? If you think of snow, it would snow
>> although there is no snow now.
>
> "Think" followed by a bare noun as direct object is an idiom -- mostly
> American, I think. The online American Heritage Dictionary has this entry:
>
> "To concentrate one's thoughts on; keep as a point of focus: Think
> victory."


Many years ago there was a road-safety campaign in the UK enouraging
drivers to keep a lookout for motorcyclists when turning or overtaking.
Its slogan was "Think once, think twice - Think Bike!"
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

David Kleinecke

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May 15, 2015, 7:25:27 PM5/15/15
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Nature did not intend water that far north to be swum in. Pismo Beach is
the northmost feasible swimming hole. Unless, of course, you wear a wet
suit. If you must have a beach in the Bay Area I recommend the one in
Alameda.

Peter T. Daniels

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May 15, 2015, 11:26:47 PM5/15/15
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On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 7:25:27 PM UTC-4, David Kleinecke wrote:
> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 7:09:13 PM UTC-7, Peter Moylan wrote:

> > I once had the opposite feeling when I was in Northern California for
> > Christmas. I felt that tradition demanded that I go to the beach on
> > Christmas Day, but there were no decent beaches in the San Francisco Bay
> > area. I ended up swimming in the bay.
>
> Nature did not intend water that far north to be swum in. Pismo Beach is
> the northmost feasible swimming hole. Unless, of course, you wear a wet
> suit. If you must have a beach in the Bay Area I recommend the one in
> Alameda.

It's just above latitude 35 N -- _way_ south of Coney Island and Rockaway
(NYC is around 42 N), and there are public beaches along the Connecticut
shore of the Long Island Sound well to the north of there, and I'd be very
surprised if no one goes in the water at Cape Cod.

Peter Moylan

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May 16, 2015, 12:42:08 AM5/16/15
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On 16/05/15 09:25, David Kleinecke wrote:
> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 7:09:13 PM UTC-7, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 15/05/15 05:37, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>>> bert skrev:
>>>
>>>> No, it's saying that it's Christmas, so there ought to be snow,
>>>> but because there is no snow now, and very probably there won't
>>>> be any, you will just have to imagine that there is some snow.
>>>
>>> That reminds me of a Christmas card I got from my two daughters
>>> who at the time were staying for a fortnight in South Africa. The
>>> card was a picture of them both on a sunny beach with nice, blue
>>> water - taken on December the 24th. They had a hard time getting
>>> into a Christmas mood because it was so different from a Danish
>>> December.
>>
>> I once had the opposite feeling when I was in Northern California for
>> Christmas. I felt that tradition demanded that I go to the beach on
>> Christmas Day, but there were no decent beaches in the San Francisco Bay
>> area. I ended up swimming in the bay.

> Nature did not intend water that far north to be swum in. Pismo Beach is
> the northmost feasible swimming hole. Unless, of course, you wear a wet
> suit. If you must have a beach in the Bay Area I recommend the one in
> Alameda.

I vaguely remember a passable beach -- not great, but it did have sand
-- about an hour's drive north of San Francisco, but I can no longer
identify it on a map. The water temperature was cool but acceptable in
midsummer. I've experienced much colder in the North Sea.

There are some quite attractive-looking beaches on the ocean side of San
Francisco itself, but at the time the visible pollution was so bad that
I didn't dare go in the water. I imagine it's been cleaned up since then.

Peter Moylan

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May 16, 2015, 12:45:39 AM5/16/15
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On 15/05/15 08:26, Joe Fineman wrote:
> Bertel Lund Hansen <gade...@lundhansen.dk> writes:
>
>> bert skrev:
>>
>>> No, it's saying that it's Christmas, so there ought to be snow,
>>> but because there is no snow now, and very probably there won't
>>> be any, you will just have to imagine that there is some snow.
>>
>> That reminds me of a Christmas card I got from my two daughters
>> who at the time were staying for a fortnight in South Africa. The
>> card was a picture of them both on a sunny beach with nice, blue
>> water - taken on December the 24th. They had a hard time getting
>> into a Christmas mood because it was so different from a Danish
>> December.
>
> When I was a child in southern California, we often derided the
> Christmas-card winter hoopla by observing that the climate of Palestine
> was pretty close to that of southern California.

I made a similar point long ago in this group -- how else would
shepherds be washing their socks by night in winter? -- but someone said
that the inland climate there is very different from the coastal climate.

Reinhold {Rey} Aman

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May 16, 2015, 12:59:27 AM5/16/15
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Peter Moylan wrote:
>
> how else would shepherds be washing their socks by night in winter?
>
Were they Wollongong socks?

--
~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~

Peter Moylan

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May 16, 2015, 1:21:09 AM5/16/15
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On 16/05/15 14:59, Reinhold {Rey} Aman wrote:
> Peter Moylan wrote:
>>
>> how else would shepherds be washing their socks by night in winter?
>>
> Were they Wollongong socks?

There was originally a plan to do the whole thing in Wollongong, but
they couldn't find three wise men or a virgin.

Reinhold {Rey} Aman

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May 16, 2015, 1:23:49 AM5/16/15
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Peter Moylan wrote:
>
> I vaguely remember a passable beach -- not great, but it did have sand
> -- about an hour's drive north of San Francisco, but I can no longer
> identify it on a map. The water temperature was cool but acceptable in
> midsummer.
>
That was probably Portuguese Beach, just west of here (Santa Rosa).

snide...@gmail.com

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May 16, 2015, 2:17:30 AM5/16/15
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Alameda gets the Japanese current after it touches the Aleutians. Oregon and Washington try to warm it up, but they are stingy with their sunny days.

I believe Cape Cod gets the northbound current after it touches Florida.

I'm not sure how the temperature distributes on the Right Side. How cold is the water in Western Ireland, Isle of Man, and Brest?

Or the Far Left ... what's the water temp in Tokyo?

/dps

/dps

Steve Hayes

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May 16, 2015, 2:47:44 AM5/16/15
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That's as different as Durban and Cape Town.

One's on the east coast and the other's on the west coast. Coriolis or
something.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

Dr Nick

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May 16, 2015, 5:49:56 AM5/16/15
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It, or something very similar is still running down here.

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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May 16, 2015, 9:58:54 AM5/16/15
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Comparatively warm. Ireland and Britain are warmed by the "Gulf Stream"
(North Atlantic Drift).

This gives sea temperatures at Malin Head (the most northerly point of
the island of Ireland):
http://www.met.ie/marine/marine_climatology.asp

Sea Temperatures
Ireland's temperate climate is mainly due to the moderating
influence of the sea. The waters around our coasts are remarkably
warm - 7° to 8°C warmer than the average global sea temperature at
these latitudes thanks to the warm North Atlantic Drift, the main
ocean current effecting Ireland.

In 2010 the lowest temperature was in February, 6.4 C, and the highest
in August, 15 C.

>Or the Far Left ... what's the water temp in Tokyo?
>
>/dps
>
>/dps

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

Lanarcam

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May 16, 2015, 10:09:14 AM5/16/15
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Snidely

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May 17, 2015, 2:47:09 AM5/17/15
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Lanarcam explained on 5/16/2015 :
21C? Bath water!

/dps

--
Ieri, oggi, domani

ahmadrez...@gmail.com

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I think it means 'Think positive even it's hard'
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