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in polite society (in Europe), is it important to eat Spaghetti quietly?

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henh...@gmail.com

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Aug 9, 2023, 10:35:16 PM8/9/23
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in polite society (in Europe), is it important to eat Spaghetti quietly?


Yes, it is considered important to eat spaghetti quietly in polite society in Europe. This is because spaghetti is a long, thin noodle that can make a lot of noise if it is slurped or chewed loudly. Slurping and chewing loudly is considered to be rude and uncouth in many cultures, and it is especially frowned upon in Europe.


In Italy, the country where spaghetti originated, there is a saying that "spaghetti should be kissed, not slurped." This means that spaghetti should be eaten slowly and carefully, with your lips closed, so that you don't make any noise. If you slurp or chew spaghetti loudly, you will be considered to be uncultured and ill-mannered.


Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule. If you are eating spaghetti at a casual restaurant or with close friends, it may be okay to slurp or chew loudly. However, if you are eating spaghetti at a formal dinner party or with business associates, it is best to err on the side of caution and eat quietly.




Here are some tips for eating spaghetti quietly in Europe:

--- Use a fork and spoon to eat your spaghetti. This will help you to control the noodles and prevent them from making noise.

--- Break the spaghetti into smaller pieces before you start eating. This will make it easier to eat and less likely to make noise.

--- Put the spaghetti in your mouth gently and chew slowly. Don't slurp or chew loudly.

--- If you have to, take a sip of water or wine after you eat a piece of spaghetti. This will help to clear your mouth and prevent any noise from being made.



By following these tips, you can eat spaghetti quietly and enjoy your meal without offending anyone.


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i've never used a spoon and fork together to roll up Spaghetti (in a spoon) --- is that the [proper] method ?


There is no one "proper" way to eat spaghetti, but using a spoon and fork together to twirl it up is a common method. This method can be helpful for people who have difficulty twirling spaghetti with just a fork.

To twirl spaghetti with a spoon and fork, you will need to:

1. Hold the fork in your dominant hand and the spoon in your non-dominant hand.

2. Place the tines of the fork against the side of the bowl or plate.

3. Rest the spoon on top of the fork, with the bowl of the spoon facing down.

4. Use the spoon to help you twirl the spaghetti around the tines of the fork.

5. Once you have a good amount of spaghetti twirled around the fork, lift it up to your mouth and eat it.


It is important to use a large spoon when you are twirling spaghetti. This will help to prevent the spaghetti from falling off the fork. You should also make sure that you are not twirling too much spaghetti at once. If you twirl too much spaghetti, it will be difficult to eat it.



If you are not comfortable using a spoon and fork to twirl spaghetti, you can also try the following methods:

--- Twirl the spaghetti with just a fork. This method can be difficult, but it is possible with practice. To do this, you will need to rest the tines of the fork against the side of the bowl or plate. Then, you will need to twirl the fork quickly and carefully, until you have a good amount of spaghetti wrapped around the tines.

--- Cut the spaghetti with a knife. This is the least traditional method, but it is also the easiest. To do this, simply cut the spaghetti into smaller pieces that are easier to eat.


No matter which method you choose, the most important thing is to eat your spaghetti quietly and with good manners.

bozo de niro

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Aug 10, 2023, 11:15:38 PM8/10/23
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I can twirl a baton but not spaghetti. Go figure.

https://youtu.be/uquLa_eCsxs

Hibou

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Aug 11, 2023, 1:41:34 AM8/11/23
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Le 10/08/2023 à 03:35, henh...@gmail.com a écrit :
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> Here are some tips for eating spaghetti quietly in Europe [...]

The tips work only in Europe?

Silvano

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Aug 11, 2023, 4:49:35 AM8/11/23
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henh...@gmail.com hat am 10.08.2023 um 04:35 geschrieben:

> Here are some tips for eating spaghetti quietly in Europe:
>
> --- Use a fork and spoon to eat your spaghetti.

Spoon? I won't comment about other European countries, but most Italians
are used to tourists and their strange habits, the only reason why we
don't laugh out loud when we see someone use a fork _and_ _spoon_ to eat
spaghetti.




> --- Break the spaghetti into smaller pieces before you start eating.

How? With a knife??? LOL!



> --- This will make it easier to eat and less likely to make noise.

The opposite is true. Spaghetti must be long enough that you can curl
them around your fork. If you break them, you'll need a spoon and not a
fork, but then ... see below.




> i've never used a spoon and fork together to roll up Spaghetti (in a spoon) --- is that the [proper] method ?

See above.



> --- Twirl the spaghetti with just a fork. This method can be difficult,

See below.




> but it is possible with practice.

That's the point! Most Italians have collected enough practice before
they go to school.



> --- Cut the spaghetti with a knife.

Not necessary. You can also buy very short spaghetti ...




> --- This is the least traditional method, but it is also the easiest. To do this, simply cut the spaghetti into smaller pieces that are easier to eat.

... and eat them in a soup with the broth, of course using a spoon to
collect the broth and the tiny pieces.



Silvano

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Aug 11, 2023, 4:54:41 AM8/11/23
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Hibou hat am 11.08.2023 um 07:41 geschrieben:
> Le 10/08/2023 à 03:35, henh...@gmail.com a écrit :
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>> Here are some tips for eating spaghetti quietly in Europe [...]
>
> The tips work only in Europe?


In Eastern Asia, spaghetti-like pasta (udon, soba, ramen etc.) are often
eaten in a very hot soup ("hot" refers to the high temperature here) and
slurping is perfectly acceptable or even advised (required?) over there
to cool them a bit.

Snidely

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Aug 11, 2023, 2:01:59 PM8/11/23
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On Friday, Silvano queried:
> henh...@gmail.com hat am 10.08.2023 um 04:35 geschrieben:
>
>> Here are some tips for eating spaghetti quietly in Europe:
>>
[...]
>> --- Break the spaghetti into smaller pieces before you start eating.
>
> How? With a knife??? LOL!

No knife needed. The edge of the fork is can cut things tougher than
typical noodles. The fork can also scoop up the pieces.

>
>> --- This will make it easier to eat and less likely to make noise.
>
> The opposite is true. Spaghetti must be long enough that you can curl
> them around your fork. If you break them, you'll need a spoon and not a
> fork, but then ... see below.

Spaghetti is given as the reason Italians invented the 4-tine fork.


>> [using all 4 tines] but it is possible with practice.
>
> That's the point! Most Italians have collected enough practice before
> they go to school.

It takes time to learn how to tuck the ends in so they don't splatter
our Van Dykes.

/dps

--
"This is all very fine, but let us not be carried away be excitement,
but ask calmly, how does this person feel about in in his cooler
moments next day, with six or seven thousand feet of snow and stuff on
top of him?"
_Roughing It_, Mark Twain.

bil...@shaw.ca

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Aug 11, 2023, 3:20:08 PM8/11/23
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On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 1:49:35 AM UTC-7, Silvano wrote:
> henh...@gmail.com hat am 10.08.2023 um 04:35 geschrieben:
> > Here are some tips for eating spaghetti quietly in Europe:
> >
> > --- Use a fork and spoon to eat your spaghetti.
> Spoon? I won't comment about other European countries, but most Italians
> are used to tourists and their strange habits, the only reason why we
> don't laugh out loud when we see someone use a fork _and_ _spoon_ to eat
> spaghetti.
> > --- Break the spaghetti into smaller pieces before you start eating.
> How? With a knife??? LOL!
>
I'm certain you don't work in a restaurant. One of your customers would have
strangled you by now.

bill

Ken Blake

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Aug 11, 2023, 4:22:54 PM8/11/23
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I never leave a tip in a restaurant in Europe.

Silvano

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Aug 11, 2023, 4:59:50 PM8/11/23
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bil...@shaw.ca hat am 11.08.2023 um 21:20 geschrieben:
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 1:49:35 AM UTC-7, Silvano wrote:
>> henh...@gmail.com hat am 10.08.2023 um 04:35 geschrieben:
>>> Here are some tips for eating spaghetti quietly in Europe:
>>>
>>> --- Use a fork and spoon to eat your spaghetti.
>> Spoon? I won't comment about other European countries, but most Italians
>> are used to tourists and their strange habits, the only reason why we
>> don't laugh out loud when we see someone use a fork _and_ _spoon_ to eat
>> spaghetti.
>>> --- Break the spaghetti into smaller pieces before you start eating.
>> How? With a knife??? LOL!
>>
> I'm certain you don't work in a restaurant. One of your customers would have
> strangled you by now.


Only if I don't go for his throat faster than he goes for mine, when I
see him torture spaghetti with a knife.
But then, I should never work in a restaurant and you're right, I never
did and will never do it.

Sam Plusnet

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Aug 11, 2023, 5:10:59 PM8/11/23
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You could probably manage the job with a large diameter straw, but I
haven't tried this out.

--
Sam Plusnet

Silvano

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Aug 11, 2023, 5:30:52 PM8/11/23
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Sam Plusnet hat am 11.08.2023 um 23:10 geschrieben:
> On 11-Aug-23 9:49, Silvano wrote:
>> henh...@gmail.com hat am 10.08.2023 um 04:35 geschrieben:

>>> --- This is the least traditional method, but it is also the easiest.
>>> To do this, simply cut the spaghetti into smaller pieces that are
>>> easier to eat.
>>
>> ... and eat them in a soup with the broth, of course using a spoon to
>> collect the broth and the tiny pieces.
>
> You could probably manage the job with a large diameter straw, but I
> haven't tried this out.

Neither have I, but it could be done. Not sure about the reactions of
traditionalists in Japan, China, Korea, Italy and some other countries.

TonyCooper

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Aug 11, 2023, 5:41:19 PM8/11/23
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 22:59:44 +0200, Silvano
<Sil...@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote:

>bil...@shaw.ca hat am 11.08.2023 um 21:20 geschrieben:
Confession: I cook pasta about once a week because it's a simple
thing to cook. However, I buy penne and not spaghetti to avoid the
fork-twirling. All the same thing except for the shape, innit?

I do buy pre-made sauce*. I haven't yet attempted to make my own and
neither my wife nor I have a grandmother's sauce recipe that must be
used.

*Called "gravy" by some in the US, which seems to me to be a bizarre
term.

That usage got considerable mention when "The Sopranos" first aired in
the US. "Tony Soprano" used it, and many Americans were totally
baffled by it.


--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

Silvano

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Aug 12, 2023, 4:44:59 AM8/12/23
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TonyCooper hat am 11.08.2023 um 23:41 geschrieben:
>
> Confession: I cook pasta about once a week because it's a simple
> thing to cook. However, I buy penne and not spaghetti to avoid the
> fork-twirling. All the same thing except for the shape, innit?

Almost. Some sauces are better with spaghetti, other sauces with penne,
yet others with other pasta shapes.

bruce bowser

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Aug 12, 2023, 3:13:10 PM8/12/23
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"According to DeLallo, pasta's earliest origins can be traced back to Shang Dynasty in China (1700-1100 B.C.)
[Laut DeLallo lassen sich die frühesten Ursprünge der Pasta auf die Shang-Dynastie in China (1700–1100 v. Chr.) zurückführen.]"
Mashed - June 17, 2022
-- https://www.mashed.com/896095/the-untold-truth-of-pasta/
============

Dingbat

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Aug 14, 2023, 10:40:02 PM8/14/23
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On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 8:05:16 AM UTC+5:30, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> in polite society (in Europe), is it important to eat Spaghetti quietly?
>
Reminds me of a joke:
<https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/t8s7o/two_with_sausage_and_meatballs_two_without/?rdt=35597>
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