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halcombe

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Mar 1, 2002, 2:23:55 PM3/1/02
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I'd wondered casually what terms the IDF might use off camera to
describe the Arabs.

In http://www.moqawama.org/isr_aggr/fro_pres.htm I read the word is
'Akhbaroshim', which the article glosses as

"The common Hebrew insult against Arabs. The word is a combination of
the word 'Arab'with the end of the Hebrew word 'rats'."

The word is Anglicised as 'arabush', apparently. It says something
about the Western media that I have never heard (or, at least,
understood) the word before, after a couple of decades of watching and
reading the news fairly closely.

Is the note right? Are there other (worse?) Hebrew insults applied to
Arabs? And have they too been Anglicised?

(In Mandate days, the British forces' term would have been 'wog'
(various supposed derivations); the French equivalents - used in the
North African context - were 'bicot' (shortened from 'arbicot', from
Arabic 'arbi' - Arab) and 'bougnoul' (from, according to my 'Petit
Robert', the Wolof for 'black'!)

stevebee

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Mar 1, 2002, 2:54:18 PM3/1/02
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halcombe wrote:

> I'd wondered casually what terms the IDF might use off camera to
> describe the Arabs.

Why? Do you also wonder when the Arabs will stop slaughtering Jews?

> "The common Hebrew insult against Arabs. The word is a combination of
> the word 'Arab'with the end of the Hebrew word 'rats'."

Why those bad Jews are showing totally insensitivity to the Arabs. I am
shocked. Truly. The very idea.

> It says something about Western media that I have never heard these > >
> terms.

Yeah, what DOES it say? Of course -- the "Jew-controlled media will not
allow reporters to inform the American public about the insulting words
the Zionist use to refer to the beleaguered Arabs."

> Are there other (worse?) Hebrew insults applied to Arabs?

Do you take the short bus to school? Hello, McFly!

Stevebee


Larry R

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Mar 1, 2002, 4:04:09 PM3/1/02
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Never heard of the word until now.
"halcombe" <halc...@subdimension.com> wrote in message
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R.J. Goldman

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Mar 6, 2002, 8:19:12 AM3/6/02
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you might want to know what the Moslem Arabs call the rest of the worlds
population which is not Moslem or Arab..

Spooky Guy Next Door

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Mar 6, 2002, 8:15:04 AM3/6/02
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Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, stevebee
(stev...@finkel.net) wrote:

> halcombe wrote:
>
> > I'd wondered casually what terms the IDF might use off camera to
> > describe the Arabs.
>
> Why? Do you also wonder when the Arabs will stop slaughtering Jews?

*Please* tell me that's not the only side of the story you get in - where?
The USA, or Israel?

> > "The common Hebrew insult against Arabs. The word is a combination of
> > the word 'Arab'with the end of the Hebrew word 'rats'."
>
> Why those bad Jews are showing totally insensitivity to the Arabs. I am
> shocked. Truly. The very idea.
>
> > It says something about Western media that I have never heard these > >
> > terms.
>
> Yeah, what DOES it say? Of course -- the "Jew-controlled media will not
> allow reporters to inform the American public about the insulting words
> the Zionist use to refer to the beleaguered Arabs."

Uh, no.

We (as in the Western World as a whole) are hearing all sorts of things
about the supposedly evil, anti-Semitic, racist Arabs (*all* Arabs, not
just those "living" in Palestine). Why nothing derogatory about Isreali
prejudices?

Certainly, that certain Jews use "bad names" against Arabs is not a
particularly big deal (everyone, even non-combatants, unjustly demonises
the enemy in times of war). It's not even *newsworthy*. But we've heard
of Arabic anti-Semitism. We've heard accusations of Arab racism
(although, unlike the anti-Semitism claims, this particular one has never
been backed up by any proof AFAICT). Why?

And, no, I'm not going to claim it has something to do with worldwide
Jewish conspiracies to deliberately misinform USAians. Even if I believed
in such stupid propagandist claims of "Jew-controlled [anything]" (I
don't), the USAians are capable of misinforming themselves well enough,
without intervention on behalf of any race, religion, or culture.

<snip />

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Spooky Guy Next Door

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Mar 6, 2002, 8:35:30 AM3/6/02
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Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, R.J.
Goldman (rgol...@bellsouth.net) wrote:

> you might want to know what the Moslem Arabs call the rest of the worlds
> population which is not Moslem or Arab..

Is it somehow related to "dirty non-quoter"?

Tony Cooper

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Mar 6, 2002, 10:39:07 AM3/6/02
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Spooky Guy Next Door wrote:
>
> And, no, I'm not going to claim it has something to do with worldwide
> Jewish conspiracies to deliberately misinform USAians. Even if I believed
> in such stupid propagandist claims of "Jew-controlled [anything]" (I
> don't), the USAians are capable of misinforming themselves well enough,
> without intervention on behalf of any race, religion, or culture.
>
I don't think we're misinformed on this subject. I get the
same newspaper coverage and see the same TV coverage as the
poster. I see accounts of violence initiated by each side.
I read each side saying "He started it!".

The bias is on the part of the reader, and not because of
what he reads. Partially, it's an image problem. Most
Americans live around and know Jewish people. They
associate the Jews in Israel with nice Mr. Goldburg that
lives down the street, or Miss Cohen they work with. Some
assume that Israelis are just like these people, but with an
accent.

The other side, though, are strange to us. Dark, evil
looking people that don't speak English. Who'd look at
Arafat and relate him to the nice Mr. Goldburg down the
street?
There's a perception that the Jews are like us, and the
Arabs are them.

Let's not blame the media for this. If an individual is
operating on bias and perception, it's often self-induced.


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Provider of Jots and Tittles

Spooky Guy Next Door

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Mar 7, 2002, 6:40:36 AM3/7/02
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Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, Tony Cooper
(tony_co...@yahoo.com) wrote:

> Spooky Guy Next Door wrote:
> >
> > And, no, I'm not going to claim it has something to do with worldwide
> > Jewish conspiracies to deliberately misinform USAians. Even if I believed
> > in such stupid propagandist claims of "Jew-controlled [anything]" (I
> > don't), the USAians are capable of misinforming themselves well enough,
> > without intervention on behalf of any race, religion, or culture.
> >
> I don't think we're misinformed on this subject. I get the
> same newspaper coverage and see the same TV coverage as the
> poster. I see accounts of violence initiated by each side.
> I read each side saying "He started it!".

<snip />

> Let's not blame the media for this. If an individual is
> operating on bias and perception, it's often self-induced.

Conceded.

john smith

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Mar 8, 2002, 12:09:31 AM3/8/02
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"R.J. Goldman" wrote:
>
> you might want to know what the Moslem Arabs call the rest of the worlds
> population which is not Moslem or Arab..

*ALL* of them? I think there is a name for the kind of blanket
characterization you have used here. Which puts you in the same class as
your putative "the Moslem Arabs." How are you liking it?

\\P. Schultz

whorro...@gmail.com

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Apr 13, 2017, 1:07:53 PM4/13/17
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ALLAHU AKBAR....soulds like Akhbar
Akhbar in Hebrew means mouse, Akhbarosh is rat

Yusuf B Gursey

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Apr 15, 2017, 6:13:14 AM4/15/17
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On Wednesday, March 6, 2002 at 6:39:07 PM UTC+3, Tony Cooper wrote:
> Spooky Guy Next Door wrote:
> >
> > And, no, I'm not going to claim it has something to do with worldwide
> > Jewish conspiracies to deliberately misinform USAians. Even if I believed
> > in such stupid propagandist claims of "Jew-controlled [anything]" (I
> > don't), the USAians are capable of misinforming themselves well enough,
> > without intervention on behalf of any race, religion, or culture.
> >
> I don't think we're misinformed on this subject. I get the
> same newspaper coverage and see the same TV coverage as the
> poster. I see accounts of violence initiated by each side.
> I read each side saying "He started it!".
>
> The bias is on the part of the reader, and not because of
> what he reads. Partially, it's an image problem. Most
> Americans live around and know Jewish people. They
> associate the Jews in Israel with nice Mr. Goldburg that
> lives down the street, or Miss Cohen they work with. Some
> assume that Israelis are just like these people, but with an
> accent.
>
> The other side, though, are strange to us. Dark, evil
> looking people that don't speak English. Who'd look at
> Arafat and relate him to the nice Mr. Goldburg down the
> street?

And before WWII, before 1967, (when the US and Israeli
interests became closely identified and support for Israel
became support for the US side of the Cold War) "Mr. Goldburg"
was not considered so nice by many.

> There's a perception that the Jews are like us, and the

After those dates.

Peter T. Daniels

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Apr 15, 2017, 8:35:04 AM4/15/17
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Why are you responding to a Tony Cooper inanity from 15 years ago?

Peter Moylan

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Apr 15, 2017, 11:10:18 AM4/15/17
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And dependent on country. The general perception in Australia is that
Jews are OK but that Israel is evil.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

charles

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Apr 15, 2017, 11:32:03 AM4/15/17
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In article <octcut$rth$1...@dont-email.me>,
at school I found the only obvious Jew totally obnoxious and my "best
friend" was a Muslim from Pakistan. But those are specifics not
generalities.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

CDB

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Apr 15, 2017, 5:19:16 PM4/15/17
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On 4/15/2017 11:10 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
Objection, M'Lud. Representative democracies are subject to these
risks. I don't think Australia, Canada, the UK or the US is an evil
country, but we have all had governments that have done evil things.

I understand that the Netanyahu government, in a situation of greater
danger than any of our countries face, still finds a great deal of
principled opposition to its excesses in its own country.

That said, Israelis are going to have to stop encroaching on Palestinian
land, and give a lot of it back. I have no patience with the notion
that God gives things to favourites.


Sam Plusnet

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Apr 15, 2017, 6:24:00 PM4/15/17
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"2,000 years ago all this was ours so..."
I confess to being surprised that this concept has some support within
(certain sections of) the US.



"2000 years ago all this was ours so..."


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Sam Plusnet

Peter T. Daniels

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Apr 15, 2017, 10:57:28 PM4/15/17
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Actually 2000 years ago it was the Romans'.

RH Draney

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Apr 16, 2017, 12:54:33 AM4/16/17
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Sam's "all this" is referring to a different "all this"...I can have my
Hopi neighbor explain it to you if you like....r

occam

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Apr 16, 2017, 5:05:29 AM4/16/17
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So where would you draw the line? 3 years (annexation of Crimea), 43
years (invasion of N. Cyprus), 564 years (conquest of the Byzantine
Empire, ... . I hope your answer is not 'the last war in the region',
because that opens up a lot of possibilities for random hostility.


Yusuf B Gursey

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Apr 16, 2017, 6:26:23 AM4/16/17
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I didn't notice the date. Google Groups displayed it.

Yusuf B Gursey

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Apr 16, 2017, 6:27:28 AM4/16/17
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I was talking about the US

Sam Plusnet

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Apr 16, 2017, 1:41:39 PM4/16/17
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Quite.
I have dibs on Africa - just in case.

--
Sam Plusnet
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